What would you take on the island
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Topic: What would you take on the island
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Subject: What would you take on the island
Date Posted: April 11 2024 at 13:04
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Hypothetical scenario: You're put on an island, and you can only take with you your favorite (prog) album. But you need to choose between the music (let's say it's a solar powered hifi system, and the music is on some digital medium like a memory chip/stick) and the cover art and booklet, and maybe the vinyl/CD (but you don't have a player for those). What would it be? ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to: 
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: April 11 2024 at 13:05
| it's music AND artwork, not music vs artwork |
Posted By: Floydoid
Date Posted: April 11 2024 at 13:48
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^yup ------------- 'We're going to need a bigger swear jar.' |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: April 11 2024 at 14:03
In my strange hypothetical it's music vs artwork
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Cristi wrote:Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: April 11 2024 at 14:04
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Well a satellite internet connection with all my music on the cloud. If it's a week's journey i can live without music. If i'm stuck there for life then that's my plan. There are no limitations these days. If i moved to the island you'd better believe my entire physical collection would relocate with me :) (function(){if (!document.body) return;var js = "window['__CF$cv$params']={r:'872d921f0c63cfc0',t:'MTcxMjg2NTcxMC4wMzYwMDA='};_cpo=document.createElement('script');_cpo.nonce='',_cpo.src='/cdn-cgi/challenge-platform/scripts/jsd/main.js',document.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(_cpo);";var _0xh = document.createElement('iframe');_0xh.height = 1;_0xh.width = 1;_0xh.style.position = 'absolute';_0xh.style.top = 0;_0xh.style.left = 0;_0xh.style.border = 'none';_0xh.style.visibility = 'hidden';document.body.appendChild(_0xh);function handler() {var _0xi = _0xh.contentDocument || _0xh.contentWindow.document;if (_0xi) {var _0xj = _0xi.createElement('script');_0xj.innerHTML = js;_0xi.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(_0xj);}}if (document.readyState !== 'loading') {handler();} else if (window.addEventListener) {document.addEventListener('DOMContentLoaded', handler);} else {var prev = document.onreadystatechange || function () {};document.onreadystatechange = function (e) {prev(e);if (document.readyState !== 'loading') {document.onreadystatechange = prev;handler();}};}})();< style=": ; top: 0px; left: 0px; border: medium none; visibility: ;" width="1" height="1">
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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: April 11 2024 at 14:11
| Music is the answer. |
Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: April 11 2024 at 14:20
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I wonder if there has ever been a two-choice poll in which one of the choices received no votes at all. This could very well be such a poll... The music (of course). ------------- No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: April 11 2024 at 15:07
| Obviously the music wins here. Wanted to make a point related to another thread. This is not an argument against cover art or booklets! They have an important role, both for marketing the music and as part of the general artistic package (for many artists). But when push comes to shove and you had to choose, of course cover art and booklet aren't worth much without the music. They can still be magnificent works of art in their own right, but they're usually not why you purchased the release. |
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: April 11 2024 at 15:31
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^ i've bought many vinyl albums for the cover art alone even if i don't like the album. It makes great wall art. Yes the music comes first but cover art is always a welcome bonus. (function(){if (!document.body) return;var js = "window['__CF$cv$params']={r:'872e13db2d2e15a6',t:'MTcxMjg3MTAyMy45MzIwMDA='};_cpo=document.createElement('script');_cpo.nonce='',_cpo.src='/cdn-cgi/challenge-platform/scripts/jsd/main.js',document.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(_cpo);";var _0xh = document.createElement('iframe');_0xh.height = 1;_0xh.width = 1;_0xh.style.position = 'absolute';_0xh.style.top = 0;_0xh.style.left = 0;_0xh.style.border = 'none';_0xh.style.visibility = 'hidden';document.body.appendChild(_0xh);function handler() {var _0xi = _0xh.contentDocument || _0xh.contentWindow.document;if (_0xi) {var _0xj = _0xi.createElement('script');_0xj.innerHTML = js;_0xi.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(_0xj);}}if (document.readyState !== 'loading') {handler();} else if (window.addEventListener) {document.addEventListener('DOMContentLoaded', handler);} else {var prev = document.onreadystatechange || function () {};document.onreadystatechange = function (e) {prev(e);if (document.readyState !== 'loading') {document.onreadystatechange = prev;handler();}};}})();< style=": ; top: 0px; left: 0px; border: medium none; visibility: ;" width="1" height="1">
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: April 11 2024 at 15:49
| ^ I also purchased some releases mainly for the cover art, but I eventually sold those where the music ultimately did not live up to my expectations. You repeated my basic point: As good as cover art can be, the music comes first - but there is of course really awesome cover art. |
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: April 11 2024 at 16:46
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^ yeah but it's not an all or nothing proposal in the real world. I love looking at a wall full of music. It's ecstasy to my eyes. Sure i wouldn't collect soda cans for the same visual effect. Great music and great visual art go together. If you lack the visuals you're missing an important element. The classic vinyl albums often made the album cover art as intricate as the music inside. I do love the convenience of hard drives and iPods and all that but i'll never let go of my physical specimens and i continue to buy them on CD if i can :) (function(){if (!document.body) return;var js = "window['__CF$cv$params']={r:'872e7f281e31cfd5',t:'MTcxMjg3NTQxOC45NjUwMDA='};_cpo=document.createElement('script');_cpo.nonce='',_cpo.src='/cdn-cgi/challenge-platform/scripts/jsd/main.js',document.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(_cpo);";var _0xh = document.createElement('iframe');_0xh.height = 1;_0xh.width = 1;_0xh.style.position = 'absolute';_0xh.style.top = 0;_0xh.style.left = 0;_0xh.style.border = 'none';_0xh.style.visibility = 'hidden';document.body.appendChild(_0xh);function handler() {var _0xi = _0xh.contentDocument || _0xh.contentWindow.document;if (_0xi) {var _0xj = _0xi.createElement('script');_0xj.innerHTML = js;_0xi.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(_0xj);}}if (document.readyState !== 'loading') {handler();} else if (window.addEventListener) {document.addEventListener('DOMContentLoaded', handler);} else {var prev = document.onreadystatechange || function () {};document.onreadystatechange = function (e) {prev(e);if (document.readyState !== 'loading') {document.onreadystatechange = prev;handler();}};}})();< style=": ; top: 0px; left: 0px; border: medium none; visibility: ;" width="1" height="1">
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: April 11 2024 at 17:32
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Whichever is most nutritious.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 11 2024 at 17:53
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If it's Prog, like, say, Pawn Hearts, definitely the music, but in many cases I would rather have the cover art or a big poster that came in the album, or even if it came with a hut wall-hanging bath mat cum erstwhile toilet seat cover. I mean if I had no photos, I would like album photo art to help sustain me during my lonely isolation. Oh the joy of waking up every day to this:    ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: April 11 2024 at 18:01
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^ hey! we didn't request that :) actually i sampled that once. it's as awful as the cover art. probably a top 10 worst albums of all time! ------------- https://rateyourmusic.com/~siLLy_puPPy |
Posted By: Intruder
Date Posted: April 11 2024 at 18:14
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Let the music tell the story. ------------- I like to feel the suspense when you're certain you know I am there..... |
Posted By: Octopus II
Date Posted: April 12 2024 at 00:46
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Music is indeed the answer.
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: April 12 2024 at 00:58
Well, it's a hypothetical scenario, a thought experiment. Like I said in the other thread, I really like cover art. On my website there was a time many years ago when I had to remove all cover art for legal reasons, but when I did the relaunch I made it a priority. I also always enjoyed having a physical copy of a release, especially the vinyl releases. But regardless, I still think that the music itself is the essence of a release. It's even better to also have the cover art, which is of course the case with all mediums - regardless of whether you download the music, or you use a streaming service, or you buy the CD or vinyl, you always get the cover art as well. Then the next step is to also have the physical copy, and of course many artists extend this by also releasing deluxe editions, box sets etc. with even more material.
For 95% of the music I buy, I'm satisfied with the music + cover art as a download. The remaining 5% are vinyl editions of my very favorite releases. |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: April 12 2024 at 01:42
Every Island Records album, especially if it happened to be a Caribbean island. 
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: April 12 2024 at 01:56
^ It's one album only in the hypothetical scenario.
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: April 12 2024 at 09:02
Can I at least take a box set, bearing in mind I may be stranded there a long time.
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Posted By: Floydoid
Date Posted: April 12 2024 at 10:50
Here's an in-depth appraisal (or should that be dissection) of the album. https://www.grayflannelsuit.net/blog/music-from-the-worst-album-covers-ken-by-request-only" rel="nofollow - https://www.grayflannelsuit.net/blog/music-from-the-worst-album-covers-ken-by-request-only ------------- 'We're going to need a bigger swear jar.' |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 12 2024 at 11:03
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^ Thanks, that was interesting reading. It actually would freak me out waking up and seeing Ken's big head (maybe I just ain't full enough of the holy spirit). If I were to choose an album cover to adorn my desert island home, I would sooner have, and this band is in PA, an [unblurred] https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=2572" rel="nofollow - Acid Mothers Temple cover. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: April 12 2024 at 12:57
| Assuming the island has no electricity, you won't be able to listen to the the music, but the booklet will provide at least a few minutes of reading entertainment. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: April 12 2024 at 13:10
^ nice try, but the equipment is solar powered 
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Posted By: Jacob Schoolcraft
Date Posted: April 26 2024 at 07:05
| A battery operated stereo ...several copies of a self made cdr of variety prog artists and Meg Tilly.. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 26 2024 at 10:17
Following the rules you could at least take this https://rateyourmusic.com/artist/tilly_f1" rel="nofollow - Tilly for the album's music or for the cover.  ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: Jacob Schoolcraft
Date Posted: April 27 2024 at 10:27
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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: April 27 2024 at 11:22
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I'm pretty sure that a thread started in PA has NEVER stayed on point! LOL This one has become the new worst album cover discussion corner Here's my contribution  (function(){if (!document.body) return;var js = "window['__CF$cv$params']={r:'87b077ca3aeef9d0',t:'MTcxNDIzODI2Ni4wMzEwMDA='};_cpo=document.createElement('script');_cpo.nonce='',_cpo.src='/cdn-cgi/challenge-platform/scripts/jsd/main.js',document.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(_cpo);";var _0xh = document.createElement('iframe');_0xh.height = 1;_0xh.width = 1;_0xh.style.position = 'absolute';_0xh.style.top = 0;_0xh.style.left = 0;_0xh.style.border = 'none';_0xh.style.visibility = 'hidden';document.body.appendChild(_0xh);function handler() {var _0xi = _0xh.contentDocument || _0xh.contentWindow.document;if (_0xi) {var _0xj = _0xi.createElement('script');_0xj.innerHTML = js;_0xi.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(_0xj);}}if (document.readyState !== 'loading') {handler();} else if (window.addEventListener) {document.addEventListener('DOMContentLoaded', handler);} else {var prev = document.onreadystatechange || function () {};document.onreadystatechange = function (e) {prev(e);if (document.readyState !== 'loading') {document.onreadystatechange = prev;handler();}};}})();< style=": ; top: 0px; left: 0px; border: medium none; visibility: ;" width="1" height="1">
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