Prog collectors......
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Topic: Prog collectors......
Posted By: Onslow
Subject: Prog collectors......
Date Posted: March 31 2024 at 05:59
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.....,specifically those posting here or at PE,are generally not interested in vinyl. Please, the focus in this thread is not about the extolling of one media over the other. (Also, yes, naturally it is an excuse for my putting up a used lp trade list here.) So then, how many here collect used lps? Prove me wrong. |
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Posted By: Onslow
Date Posted: March 31 2024 at 06:19
| Sorry. That should have been "medium". |
Posted By: JD
Date Posted: March 31 2024 at 08:00
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In general, yeah, not a lot of people collect vinyl. But there are a few here if you look at the 'Vinyl' thread. So...where is this list of yours?
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Posted By: Onslow
Date Posted: March 31 2024 at 09:22
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You got lps to trade? You in Toronto area? |
Posted By: Cosmiclawnmower
Date Posted: March 31 2024 at 13:08
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Not everybody here who collects vinyl posts on the Vinyl thread. I used to buy and sell a lot abroad, particularly the States, Canada, Japan and Europe but shipping costs and customs rules have just become too expensive and prohibitive. Also, new vinyl is frighteningly expensive so i only buy a handful of new release lps a year for personal listening (used to buy up some 'new' overstocks when they were available) but occasionally still buy up small collections in the UK when they come my way through word of mouth. I no longer have the room to store extra capacity or the wish to 'deal' in vinyl in the way i used to. I have pretty much all of the lps by the bands and artists that i want  ------------- |
Posted By: Onslow
Date Posted: March 31 2024 at 14:46
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There is a Vinyl thread? I cannot find it. |
Posted By: Cosmiclawnmower
Date Posted: March 31 2024 at 14:52
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https://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=96107" rel="nofollow - Vinyl - Progressive Rock Music Forum - Page 1 (progarchives.com) ------------- |
Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: April 01 2024 at 05:46
| I had a healthy vynil collection back in the day, but was forced to leave it behind when I moved to the USA. My brother kept it though, and added some of his own. There are a lot of first editions on it. I managed to replace it with CDs, and have now degilalized it for the convenience to carry a lot of music in a small device. |
Posted By: Criswell
Date Posted: April 01 2024 at 09:50
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In the booklet that comes with Wendy Carlos’s Switched On
Box collection, she makes a compelling argument that, from a physical perspective,
it is impossible for vinyl (needle in groove) to produce a better sound than a CD.
I absolutely concur. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 01 2024 at 10:08
My understanding has been that it won't produce as accurate a sound, but the sound of vinyl can sound better to some ears due to the distortion -- a harmonic distortion which is commonly pleasant to the ears. Warmer is the sound many attribute to vinyl. |
Criswell wrote:Posted By: Sebastianmoto
Date Posted: April 01 2024 at 11:28
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I buy used (and occasionally new) LP's every month. Probably 7/8ths of my wages (less rent/bills) goes on records. I would hazard a guess I'm younger than a good percentage of this sites userbase (24 this year) but I've loved vinyl records since I was probably 5 or 6. I remember my dad making a manual record-player with me around then, using a gameboard and a wall plug, and a sewing needle and cone made from folding a piece of A4. How that copy of Tubular Bells still plays after that needle damage I'm not sure. I bought a lot of house singles as a teen (that I'd now like rid of for the most part), and that cemented my preference of not just playing/collecting records, but the physical 'hunt' for music, as it were, so when I discovered prog as a whole (and not just Oldfield who had been my favourite artist since the womb) it was an immediate switch to buying anything a seller put in the "prog" box - I do vet it more now, since one Boomtown Rat's album ended up in there, and therefore my player (once). There's thousands upon thousands of fantastic progressive albums, and if I were to listen to music digitally I would end up listening to a new album everytime, rarely re-listening to any which would stop me really understanding the music. Forcing myself into this "box" of what I own means I get a much deeper appreciation for each album, and they all get regular plays. I do still listen to music digitally (usually to/from work) and discover more recent music that way (I don't shop in HMV so new works infrequently appear to me) and occasionally purchase some of the albums from which I have listened to the odd track so I can really enjoy it in the way my brain likes to listen. If I see some prog artist(s) live and they have records on the merch stall I certainly pick that up too. I guess I don't like CD's and the ilk because they're digital, and it feels sort of pointless to buy a CD when I could burn it, or use a FLAC player, or just have the files on my PC. I don't know, because of course I would get the same ability to physically search for music if it were CD's but when I listened to house, singles were 50p/£1 and the variety of artists that probably never saw a CD release kept me in vinyl (I did have a few albums on CD because Daft Punk LP's were too expensive for me). Now with prog, I suppose it helps that the format is of the right age where the percentage of prog albums out of all LP's I see is much higher than the same for CD's. Vinyl he just been a constant in my life, and to pick up and play the same Tubular Bells LP I've had that whole time, and my dad listened to before I was even born, does just feel special. |
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: April 01 2024 at 11:55
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I ONLY collect CDs unless a particular album has never been released on another format than vinyl. While i love the look of vinyl, it's really just not practical if you have a large collection and limited space. CDs are more compact and i can rip them directly onto my 10 terrabyte hard drive. If i had all the space and resources in the world i would love to collect vinyl But ultimately i find some of the remastered CDs to be of superior quality than the original vinyl anyways. Basically i'm only interested in the music, not the collectiblity of my collection. While many get rid of their CDs i have a constant fear of the hard drive going down and erasing my collection and the liner notes and art work of a physical CD are treasures in their own right. Despite the claims that vinyl sounds better by many, i simply do not share this opinion. Digital has every capability of capturing the integrity of an original vinyl experience. The secret is in the set up of the audio system including speaker placement and compression. Even two vinyl releases can sound radically different. Musical composition is much more important to my ears than production value or mixing however horrible production jobs in the wrong context can be a deal breaker, black metal excepted! -------------  https://rateyourmusic.com/~siLLy_puPPy |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: April 01 2024 at 12:35
So we had to go there right???  It's always the digital folks that start these discussions on sound quality, defending the CD, which of course is a lossless media compared to the LP.I would never consider Wendy Carlos an authority on what is better sound, pretty much everything she did was computerized/synthesized. I buy records because I like listening to music, I buy many different genres and I buy records because they sound better than CDs, I do buy CDs but never pay more than a few bucks for them.  -------------   
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: April 01 2024 at 12:37
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: April 01 2024 at 12:40
I buy used records.....mainly look for VG+. I have a list I keep on my phone of stuff I am looking for as well use the Discogs app to remind me of what I have.... -------------
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Posted By: Onslow
Date Posted: April 01 2024 at 14:10
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here are some ones that i need which come to mind at the moment: Amon Duul - wolf city Rick Hayward - same Them - time out! time in for Them Gong - leave it open, second wind, gongmaison Hawkwind - electric teepee, palace springs,levitation SRC -same Hollies - Butterfly (UK press) Hilton Valentine - all in your head Chubby Checker - chequered (aka New Revelation) hARVEY mANDELL - BABYBATTER Graham Bond - the mighty grahame bond -love is the law Golden Earring -moontan (Dutch press only) Hard Stuff - bullet proof Stanley Clarke - live 76-77 Electric Prunes -release of an oath traffic - mr fantasy (UK), reaping Beatles- yellow submarine Dylan - Freewheelin' Bob Dylan who - magic bus (compilation) Marianne Faithful - north country maid Pentangle - Solomon's seal Horslips - dancehall sweethearts Jimmy Smith - rootdown Shocking Blue - 3rd Album ('71) Mick Softley - songs for swinging survivors Mothers of invention - lumpy gravy Bert Jansch - Jack Orion john Renbourn - another Monday, the enchanted garden Davy Graham - large as life Marc Jonson - Years Nigel Mazlyn Jones - ship to shore Audience - friends,friends,friend Grateful Dead - anthem of the sun, Aoxomoxoa,terrapin station,blues for allah Mick Farren-Mona the carniverous circus Nektar - sounds like this John Tartaglia - tartaglian theorm Omnibus - same Graffiti - same Deviants - same (3) Move- Lookin' on (only UK press) Bonzo Dog Doodah Band - Doughnut in Grannies... Gravy Train - second birth East Of Eden - Snafu (UK only) Soft Machine III (UK only) The Fox - for fox's sake (UK fontana only) QUINTESSENCE - SAME (uk ONLY) QUEBEC LP WANTS: LES SINNERS - VOX POPULI GUY RHEAUME - REVE LES CHAMPIGNONS - PREMIER CHUTE PELOQUIN/SAVAGEAU - L'AISSEZ-NOUS..... ETOIFILIAN - SAME YVES LAFERRIERE - SAME ('78) CLAUDE LA FRANCE - UN BELLE SOIREE LA NOUVELLE FRONTIERE - PACIFICATION L'INITIATION (SOUNDTRACK) PAUL BAILLARGEON - VIENS MON AMOU JACQUES ROCHON - L'ONDE LA FOLIE SOLSTICE - MIRAGE STEPHANE VENNE - EN IO CHANSONS BRETON-CYR - LES MOTS DOMPIERE - SAME JACQUES BLAIS - THEMES DEMI-FLEURE VOS VOISINS - HOLOCAUST A MONTREAL (ALLO) OPUS - CONTRE COURANT OUBA - SAME L'INFONIE - VOL 33 MANTRA -VOL 333 MEDIUM - SAME ROGER RODIER -UPON VELVEATUR SOULS OF INSPYRATION - SAME |
Posted By: Woon Deadn
Date Posted: April 05 2024 at 10:45
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I'm not collecting any vinyls, these days I'm mostly only collecting tagless 128/44 mp3's. I've in fact 51 DVD-R's full of them. Anyway, there's a question that bothers me: what's the matter with Dr. Z - Three Parts To My Soul (initial British release) ? Is it really that rare or is that just an artificially made hype about it? Do any of you have it? I must say I sure love such mysterious stories/histories of records like that. Mysteries attract me. The vinyl cover concept is intriguing, the music is decent. However, I am not looking for buying it for its thousands of dollars. Not at all. Are you? ------------- Favourite Band: Gentle Giant Favourite Writer: Robert Sheckley Favourite Horror Writer: Jean Ray Favourite Computer Game: Tiny Toon - Buster's Hidden Treasure (Sega Mega Drive/Genesis) |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: April 06 2024 at 21:43
I've read about that one album, because I like reading about the Vertigo label. To me the hype with Vertigo was exactly that, the label. The Vertigo swirl and all that.......IIRC that album did not sell well at all, and my guess is not many were pressed back in the early 70s, and again IIRC many stated the music was krapp so people probably trashed the copies they bought. Hence if not many exist the price will get rather silly, especially for sought after records on the Vertigo label.....I would guess it is very rare. -------------
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