What Do You Daydream About?
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Topic: What Do You Daydream About?
Posted By: MortSahlFan
Subject: What Do You Daydream About?
Date Posted: February 29 2024 at 09:01
When I read biographies, I tend to daydream about doing my own thing in
that field.. Biography on a musician, or a director. Watching a great
movie will exponentially activate my imagination (which never seems to
stop) as well, and although I could simply imagine all the great stuff,
and I do, I try to envision conflicts to make it seem more real. I'll do
some reading, pause, daydream, and go back to the book for more
inspiration.
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Posted By: Hiram
Date Posted: February 29 2024 at 09:29
I daydream about not having to work and being able to daydream all day long.
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Posted By: Jacob Schoolcraft
Date Posted: February 29 2024 at 10:34
Daydream as in re-living a beautiful moment in the past. It's like entering a different zone and not acknowledging the present.
In the present are videos of my family on YouTube that are embarrassing and degrading...and that I did not put there. In a daydream all of that useless dribble disappears.
In my daydreaming I recall my best friend Cathy who I knew as a child and a teenager. She visited me a week before she died in her sleep. I had not seen her since we were in our teens. She came to say goodbye.
When I daydream she is by my side running through fields with those strange people we knew as a cult. Somehow our friendship ruled over everything. It's memories are innocent and our meeting in this life is timeless . It's part of the past...but in daydreaming it feels relevant as the present.
In daydreaming I am taken back to childhood footsteps through the hills of West Virginia and the games we played in the woods and under an open sky.
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Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: February 29 2024 at 11:54
Little bags that I can stick my nouns in.
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: February 29 2024 at 14:56
Mostly finding rare allocated bourbons when I hunt for them.
------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: February 29 2024 at 15:19
^ Mmm, yes, I can see daydreaming about scarce liquors. Lately for me it's been Calvados.
------------- "Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: February 29 2024 at 15:24
Atavachron wrote:
^ Mmm, yes, I can see daydreaming about scarce liquors. Lately for me it's been Calvados.
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Can you recommend a bottle....a particular brand?
------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin
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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: February 29 2024 at 16:17
I daydream about night dreaming and i night dream about daydreams except on Leap Year then i daydream about the Fibonacci sequence while eating liver and pop tarts.
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: February 29 2024 at 16:48
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: February 29 2024 at 17:29
Hi,
I have such an active dreaming world that I live in and write from ... many of the poems and stories come from the dreams and how they sequence from one day to the next, which is far out in my view of it all. The far out side of it, is when things stop one night, it's like they work themselves out on their own the next night. Uncanny moments and continuations.
Daydreaming does not last long for me, and I tend to not pay attention to it ... but I do have some interesting moments when I see things around someone one, and I might say this or that ... and sure enough, soon enough ... there it is!
However, being a writer, sometimes these seem to blur each other ... for example, I will be sitting reading something, and a thread enters my mind, and I get up to the computer and start writing, and it becomes a part of that one novel I've been writing for a couple of years (have 5 of them going!!!) ... sort of like there was a continuity thing in there, and all of a sudden, there is the answer. Two of these are almost finished, and I have no idea what to do with them! I'm not shy about the writing, but this time it is a combination of a lot of things, and it has sex, just as much as it does poetry ... it's like it's the same for me! A bit weird but there it is!
One of these, is a work on various musicians I have had contact with, and some of their words and comments, some of which came from real moments and some that came from my dreams, and moments experiencing their music on earphones or otherwise. This one, I am not sure I will ever let out before I pass away ... some folks are not going to like it, to hear at least one of them get upset over the fans telling them what to do!
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Posted By: MortSahlFan
Date Posted: March 01 2024 at 04:09
For alcohol drinkers above, I recommend the Hungarian bitter, Unicom.
As for dreams, I try and suppress them with a lot of smoke before bed.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: March 01 2024 at 04:30
While I think it important to try to live in the moment, I often find myself in [my perception of] the past. And then I almost feel like if I could hold onto it, I'd get back there. I don't really believe that I could, but in those moments it feels almost possible.
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Posted By: Jacob Schoolcraft
Date Posted: March 30 2024 at 19:20
Sometimes I daydream about my first wife ( RIP) who was born to a family of witches. I was unaware of this when we married. Imo..we were too young to take life seriously. I was 18 and she was 15.
Her and I listened to music together. We listened to Van Der Graaf Generator, GONG, Hawkwind, Guru Guru, Popol Vuh, Daevid Allen, Anthony Phillips, Hatfield and the North, Robert Wyatt everyday in our house.
For a while she traveled with me and ran the light show for our band. She somehow got involved with a cult. The same cult that was interrogated by detectives for the ritual sacrifice of Mike Newell at Menantico Ponds. Although he clearly wanted to die this way...Police and witnesses thought that he was cultivated/trained to do it.
My first wife became involved with this cult and experienced ritual abuse. She was in and out of Ancora Psychiatric Hospital for years until eventually she took her own life.
She seemed to have multiple personalities. She loved Daevid Allen and Robert Calvert lyrics. She was really interesting that way. Sometimes I daydream about our experiences together. Like holding hands and running through the fields.
The people around us were into Black magic or i call dark magic...however they also believed in Jesus. They worshipped God in the day and Satan in the night. It was all about dualism. They acted like they had multiple personalities. Certainly my wife did at times. She tried to stick with Christianity , but she wasn't able to follow one belief system. Sometimes I daydream about the time we spent together. Memories of our life experiences. It's difficult for me to believe that she's dead.
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Posted By: Frets N Worries
Date Posted: March 30 2024 at 20:25
Becoming a wealthy published author, one who has told many stories, and has quiet life with a loving family. A large library filled with musty.books and a large fireplace as well.
------------- The Wheel of Time Turns, and Ages come and pass. What was, what will be, and what is, may yet fall under the shadow.
Let the Dragon ride again on the winds of time...
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Posted By: TenYearsAfter
Date Posted: March 30 2024 at 20:54
I have stopped to daydream since 2017, as a pensionado on a tropical island, now playing guitar, making pictures in nature from hummingbirds, snorkling between octopusses, turtles and rays, visit fish restaurants on the beaches with my wife, and listen to prog in the late evening, or watch in on YouTube, ajo, paso bon, biba dushi!
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: April 03 2024 at 13:29
Logan wrote:
While I think it important to try to live in the moment, I often find myself in [my perception of] the past. And then I almost feel like if I could hold onto it, I'd get back there. I don't really believe that I could, but in those moments it feels almost possible. |
Hi,
Interesting comment.
I, personally, do not differentiate between the everyday stuff and the dreaming, from which I write so much. I have always thought that when the reality of the day matches the reality of the night (dreaming!) you will find that your perception is very strong and it allows for a lot of "creative" doings, regardless of what they could be.
A lot of my "understanding" of theater and film, in its experimental forms, is probably one reason why I feel that way ... as I find that the "freedom" to "fly" is much more important than believing in a book, or someone else to help you find your path in life. No one can find a path in their life without the internal adventure, even though we might think so when some "stars" talk about all kinds of things.
Inside, of my internal work, there is no past, present or future ... everything is just as it is and the funny comment we joke about that "time is an illusion" is very true all of a sudden ... I have, inside, time travelled, but it always feels like I'm on the outside looking in, as it might be something that is not for me ... but travelling through space/universe, is ... interesting, and only difficult if by some reason the alarm clock goes off and you have a sudden wake up call ... for anything ... the resulting headache from it won't go away for several hours and it often takes some meditation to finally stop it.
There really is not a theme, or idea, of what I dream about ... but they generally formulate themselves into some kind of endless movie, and the story continues, although in some cases they involve some things I like and have enjoyed ... for example, one of the stories I STILL have to write down, is about a tennis player from the age of 15 or so all the way to about 35/40 ... and in the story she became a special player, had to stop playing for various reasons (she wanted independence!) and eventually coaching a team from nowhere to national heights and one day ... it all ended with a stroke, on what would be her greatest achievement. I didn't invent a single moment of it, and it came together over a period of about 6 or 7 nights in continuity ...
All in all, I would say I do not "daydream" or have flighty ideas about that woman with the ______ or that car over there, or silly thoughts ... I see enough of "their colors" that it cuts through the "daydream" side of things altogether.
------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 03 2024 at 19:17
^ Quite often it has felt like, to quote Poe, all that we see or seem is but a dream within a dream.
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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: April 03 2024 at 19:58
Butterflies and Zebras And Moonbeams and Fairy Tales
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: April 06 2024 at 18:04
Logan wrote:
While I think it important to try to live in the moment, I often find myself in [my perception of] the past. And then I almost feel like if I could hold onto it, I'd get back there. I don't really believe that I could, but in those moments it feels almost possible. |
Hi,
My thoughts are how we can define/decide that daydreams and night dreaming are not "live" or in the moment? It's still the same person and a part of their body! I'm not sure we can separate the two and remain in one piece. Most of us live with the fallacy created by many churches that do not allow, or believe that ... "the father and I are one" ... which basically says that everything you see inside is just as valuable and important as what you see the rest of the day ... somewhere along the ages, we lost sight of what was said, and what it meant, in the first place!
------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com
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Posted By: omphaloskepsis
Date Posted: April 06 2024 at 18:33
I visualize/daydream about the next day's tasks. My interactions with my patients, school work, yoga, weight workouts, and gardening. Such daydreams bring order to my day. Boring...right? I also daydream about future vacations and dates with my hubby.
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Posted By: Jacob Schoolcraft
Date Posted: April 07 2024 at 13:45
Sometimes I think about tragic events in my past. I attribute the tragic part to the peer pressure in the 70s to participate in the drug culture. The 70s teenagers seemed lured into taking LSD. Most people around me experimented with LSD either in moderation, large doses or actually only once.
Between ages 15 and 18 people kept telling me.."It's okay to take it" " It's safe and it's fun"
I didn't believe that. Between 1970 and 1976 I witnessed several of my teenage friends who had actually been childhood friends strapped to a stretcher and driven to the Ancora Psychiatric Hospital where they stayed for quite some time. They had bad Acid trips.
When I visited them at the hospital they said hello..as if they acknowledged who I was..yet they did not remember anything about our past. It was strange to see them acting that way. They were wiped out.
I had about six friends this happened to..( to be more exact)..and additionally this tragic experience occurred in the lives of people I knew as acquaintances. Why? I'm assuming because the pressure was on for people to try LSD? It was the 70s?
I just recall several of them being released and when I went to visit them I had to clear it with their parents first. From this point onward they were never able to function in the community again. ...and aside from that tragic news there were friends who were not released.
This really gave me a bad view of the world in my youth. Of course I did realize that a good percentage of people who took LSD didn't have bad trips...but that didn't make it OK by me. I saw the damage it brought to people's lives. I watched them disintegrate.
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Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: April 07 2024 at 15:54
I don't really daydream much. I am so "in the present moment".....
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Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: April 07 2024 at 15:57
Jacob Schoolcraft wrote:
Sometimes I think about tragic events in my past. I attribute the tragic part to the peer pressure in the 70s to participate in the drug culture. The 70s teenagers seemed lured into taking LSD. Most people around me experimented with LSD either in moderation, large doses or actually only once.
Between ages 15 and 18 people kept telling me.."It's okay to take it" " It's safe and it's fun"
I didn't believe that. Between 1970 and 1976 I witnessed several of my teenage friends who had actually been childhood friends strapped to a stretcher and driven to the Ancora Psychiatric Hospital where they stayed for quite some time. They had bad Acid trips.
When I visited them at the hospital they said hello..as if they acknowledged who I was..yet they did not remember anything about our past. It was strange to see them acting that way. They were wiped out.
I had about six friends this happened to..( to be more exact)..and additionally this tragic experience occurred in the lives of people I knew as acquaintances. Why? I'm assuming because the pressure was on for people to try LSD? It was the 70s?
I just recall several of them being released and when I went to visit them I had to clear it with their parents first. From this point onward they were never able to function in the community again. ...and aside from that tragic news there were friends who were not released.
This really gave me a bad view of the world in my youth. Of course I did realize that a good percentage of people who took LSD didn't have bad trips...but that didn't make it OK by me. I saw the damage it brought to people's lives. I watched them disintegrate. | LSD is bad news; I tried it 13 times.....the worst thing ever made....I have been over 40 years completely free of all street drugs....about 30 years away from alcohol....and those latter decisions to put it all behind me are the best decisions I ever made.
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Posted By: Jacob Schoolcraft
Date Posted: April 07 2024 at 18:27
[/QUOTE] LSD is bad news; I tried it 13 times.....the worst thing ever made....I have been over 40 years completely free of all street drugs....about 30 years away from alcohol....and those latter decisions to put it all behind me are the best decisions I ever made.[/QUOTE]
Interesting!!! Smart move. Another tragic experience ...The Menantico Cult. They were into this kind of dualism. According to a recent article they followed a manichean belief. In the early 70s it wasn't difficult to run across them and while camping at Menantico it was hard not to notice. People began disappearing, children were molested and they put fear there. People I knew in the early 70s who were programmed by this cult ended up in a mental hospital. I am certain that they took LSD . I believe the drugs combined with the programming is precisely what sent them off to bye bye land.
This cult was dominated by sadistic bravado types who from the very beginning...should have been incarcerated so that they couldn't hurt innocent people. People who are not delusional. People that don't trust their life to some ritual in a book. People who were camping and enjoying nature. Enjoying themselves.
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: April 07 2024 at 19:31
presdoug wrote:
LSD is bad news; I tried it 13 times.....the worst thing ever made....I have been over 40 years completely free of all street drugs....about 30 years away from alcohol....and those latter decisions to put it all behind me are the best decisions I ever made. |
You tried it 13 times, eh? Thirteen? Interesting number, 13, and quite specific. Not doubting your veracity, but I partied quite heavily in the 70s. Dropped acid, popped mescaline, shrooms, snorted coke, etc., in the bands I played in (and at school). I couldn't give you a specific number of times I did anything.
But I am alive, and drug free for around 40 years as well. Cheers! I'll drink a Guinness in your honor. Or perhaps I'll raise a glass of Merlot if I'm feeling really daring.
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Posted By: Jacob Schoolcraft
Date Posted: April 07 2024 at 20:14
Once you see somebody really talented disintegrate from LSD that's enough to convince you that it's a gamble. At age 18 I knew some amazing guitar players who took LSD and just never got that talent back. It never came back. They sucked. They had no endurance..no more perfect balance and coordination between their fingering hand and picking hand. LSD took all those years of development away.
But yet..some people are not affected by it. Sorry no sale. You end up risking your goals. ..your future goals and you don't have the answer. You don't know what kind of a person you are and you're going to risk taking LSD knowing the possibilities of it turning out really bad. Why is it held in the highest regard? It's inconsistencies warns us. An ideal candidate for psychiatric treatment
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: April 07 2024 at 20:36
^ Just to note: you can't actually drop acid and play an ax with any competence, it is quite almost literally impossible. I think that's why Hendrix put it under his headband... slow release.
------------- "Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy
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Posted By: Jacob Schoolcraft
Date Posted: April 08 2024 at 04:48
Atavachron wrote:
^ Just to note: you can't actually drop acid and play an ax with any competence, it is quite almost literally impossible. I think that's why Hendrix put it under his headband... slow release.
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Yes but after having a bad trip. That's when you don't remember how to play and definitely cannot. That's sad.
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Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: April 08 2024 at 05:39
The Dark Elf wrote:
presdoug wrote:
LSD is bad news; I tried it 13 times.....the worst thing ever made....I have been over 40 years completely free of all street drugs....about 30 years away from alcohol....and those latter decisions to put it all behind me are the best decisions I ever made. |
You tried it 13 times, eh? Thirteen? Interesting number, 13, and quite specific. Not doubting your veracity, but I partied quite heavily in the 70s. Dropped acid, popped mescaline, shrooms, snorted coke, etc., in the bands I played in (and at school). I couldn't give you a specific number of times I did anything.
But I am alive, and drug free for around 40 years as well. Cheers! I'll drink a Guinness in your honor. Or perhaps I'll raise a glass of Merlot if I'm feeling really daring.
| Cheers to you! I guess that is unusual to remember something like how many hits of acid I took, but unlike pot and hash, which I was on almost daily back then, the lsd trips were more memorable- for all unpleasant reasons....don't know about you, but the lsd I took was laced with real poison, strychinine, and the trips were an incredible shock to the system....man, I am glad we survived.....
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Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: April 08 2024 at 05:47
Jacob Schoolcraft wrote:
[/QUOTE] LSD is b | LSD is bad news; I tried it 13 times.....the worst thing ever made....I have been over 40 years completely free of all street drugs....about 30 years away from alcohol....and those latter decisions to put it all behind me are the best decisions I ever made.[/QUOTE]
Interesting!!! Smart move. Another tragic experience ...The Menantico Cult. They were into this kind of dualism. According to a recent article they followed a manichean belief. In the early 70s it wasn't difficult to run across them and while camping at Menantico it was hard not to notice. People began disappearing, children were molested and they put fear there. People I knew in the early 70s who were programmed by this cult ended up in a mental hospital. I am certain that they took LSD . I believe the drugs combined with the programming is precisely what sent them off to bye bye land.
This cult was dominated by sadistic bravado types who from the very beginning...should have been incarcerated so that they couldn't hurt innocent people. People who are not delusional. People that don't trust their life to some ritual in a book. People who were camping and enjoying nature. Enjoying themselves. [/QUOTE]
I am so sorry to hear of that cult and the ones leading it who should have been stopped in their tracks before they could do others harm...I've never experienced a cult, but i am not surprised that they used lsd to control things....everybody was telling me in the 70s too about acid, "it is so fun" "try it, it won't hurt"-when you are so young you don't have the wherewithal to see through that like you do in later years "experience is what you get after you need it"
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Posted By: CosmicVibration
Date Posted: April 08 2024 at 07:37
Posted By: Jacob Schoolcraft
Date Posted: April 08 2024 at 09:26
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I am so sorry to hear of that cult and the ones leading it who should have been stopped in their tracks before they could do others harm...I've never experienced a cult, but i am not surprised that they used lsd to control things....everybody was telling me in the 70s too about acid, "it is so fun" "try it, it won't hurt"-when you are so young you don't have the wherewithal to see through that like you do in later years "experience is what you get after you need it" [/QUOTE]
Yes..it was strange indeed. The experience itself was unusual. The problem for SRA victims is the doubt people have regarding their stories...although some SRA victims are full of sh*t and trying to make a profit and of course that doesn't help either.
Wikipedia states that there has never been any real evidence to prove that SRA exists. That's ridiculous. It's existed for years and back in my time it wasn't even called SRA. Consequently a lot of ritual abuse derives from practices in Black Magic. People are so blind. People worshipped Satan centuries ago. Maybe it wasn't modernized as it were during the hippy dippy trippy zippy era...
I don't even believe in the supernatural. I find criminology more interesting. Because that's what it is. Sadistic people that sacrifice humans and animals. They are mentally challenged. It differs in certain ways from what Jeffrey Dahmer would do...but actually has similarities and the idea that demons exist is nonsense to me. Is there any reason to believe that they exist?
These are just people dressing up in cloaks and masks and getting off on torturing . They were delusional. They used to have a metal box with Egyptian hieroglyphics carved on the outside. On the inside were hallways that led through a maze. They would open the door of the box and place an animal inside. Then they would slam the door piercing the animal with sharp nails that were located on the inside of the door. Like a miniature iron maiden.
This sounds like a Hollywood movie to people. In my day it was real. The crimes were real. To me there are no demons. There is no Satan and its just mentally challenged people who were potential rapist at a young age or they pursued the left hand path because Mommy didn't give them enough attention when they were young. Maybe she didn't breast feed them and they hated the world for it 🤷
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Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: April 08 2024 at 10:25
Jacob Schoolcraft wrote:
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I am so sorry to hear of that cult and the ones leading it who should have been stopped in their tracks before they could do others harm...I've never experienced a cult, but i am not surprised that they used lsd to control things....everybody was telling me in the 70s too about acid, "it is so fun" "try it, it won't hurt"-when you are so young you don't have the wherewithal to see through that like you do in later years "experience is what you get after you need it" [/QUOTE]
Yes..it was strange indeed. The experience itself was unusual. The problem for SRA victims is the doubt people have regarding their stories...although some SRA victims are full of sh*t and trying to make a profit and of course that doesn't help either.
Wikipedia states that there has never been any real evidence to prove that SRA exists. That's ridiculous. It's existed for years and back in my time it wasn't even called SRA. Consequently a lot of ritual abuse derives from practices in Black Magic. People are so blind. People worshipped Satan centuries ago. Maybe it wasn't modernized as it were during the hippy dippy trippy zippy era...
I don't even believe in the supernatural. I find criminology more interesting. Because that's what it is. Sadistic people that sacrifice humans and animals. They are mentally challenged. It differs in certain ways from what Jeffrey Dahmer would do...but actually has similarities and the idea that demons exist is nonsense to me. Is there any reason to believe that they exist?
These are just people dressing up in cloaks and masks and getting off on torturing . They were delusional. They used to have a metal box with Egyptian hieroglyphics carved on the outside. On the inside were hallways that led through a maze. They would open the door of the box and place an animal inside. Then they would slam the door piercing the animal with sharp nails that were located on the inside of the door. Like a miniature iron maiden.
This sounds like a Hollywood movie to people. In my day it was real. The crimes were real. To me there are no demons. There is no Satan and its just mentally challenged people who were potential rapist at a young age or they pursued the left hand path because Mommy didn't give them enough attention when they were young. Maybe she didn't breast feed them and they hated the world for it 🤷
[/QUOTE] I find that the "occult" and the "supernatural" is so very suggestive-basically, it is dealing with a bunch of unknowns....and in an odd way, though it deals with unpleasant associations with the devil or what have you, it has a power over some people, and they get seduced by the occult and in turn manipulated with like you say-sadistic, mentally challenged people-I don't really believe in the devil, myself-but have met people like the devil on planet earth....Charles Manson and his "Family" were another bad bunch, and Manson would use lsd to control and manipulate his followers sometimes....
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Posted By: Jacob Schoolcraft
Date Posted: April 08 2024 at 10:41
[/QUOTE] I find that the "occult" and the "supernatural" is so very suggestive-basically, it is dealing with a bunch of unknowns....and in an odd way, though it deals with unpleasant associations with the devil or what have you, it has a power over some people, and they get seduced by the occult and in turn manipulated with like you say-sadistic, mentally challenged people-I don't really believe in the devil, myself-but have met people like the devil on planet earth....Charles Manson and his "Family" were another bad bunch, and Manson would use lsd to control and manipulate his followers sometimes....[/QUOTE]
Yes very true!! Growing up in that environment is something I resent to a degree. It was like being subjected to people most of the time that were either lost or just had a back in the woods mentality. It's just garbage and I just needed a change of scenery. The hamsters started getting to me.
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: April 08 2024 at 17:35
presdoug wrote:
The Dark Elf wrote:
presdoug wrote:
LSD is bad news; I tried it 13 times.....the worst thing ever made....I have been over 40 years completely free of all street drugs....about 30 years away from alcohol....and those latter decisions to put it all behind me are the best decisions I ever made. |
You tried it 13 times, eh? Thirteen? Interesting number, 13, and quite specific. Not doubting your veracity, but I partied quite heavily in the 70s. Dropped acid, popped mescaline, shrooms, snorted coke, etc., in the bands I played in (and at school). I couldn't give you a specific number of times I did anything.
But I am alive, and drug free for around 40 years as well. Cheers! I'll drink a Guinness in your honor. Or perhaps I'll raise a glass of Merlot if I'm feeling really daring.
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Never had a bad trip, truth to tell. And I will guarantee you, back in the day, if someone cut acid with strychnine where I lived he would be found floating face down in the Detroit River.
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: April 09 2024 at 06:57
The Dark Elf wrote:
... Never had a bad trip, truth to tell. And I will guarantee you, back in the day, if someone cut acid with strychnine where I lived he would be found floating face down in the Detroit River. |
Hi,
Thx ... was gonna post the same thing. It suggests that a specific, temperament is the requirement for doing acid, in those days, before it went horribly commercial and cut with everything you can think of.
However, I was careful when taking it and where, so it would be less dangerous or scary all around. And I find this is the difference in many cases of some friends, some of which took it any time and any place ... and although I was not super crazy, I did so some funny, strange, weird things. But mostly, I liked to take it and put on the headset and listen to music ... which was a very special combination.
But yeah, the b*****ds that milked down and cut the original good stuff for greed, are the ones that created most of the chaos. The study in Berkeley that was done on acid, never mentioned a bad trip ... and specified that being careful was the most important thing ... or at least have your girlfriend/boyfriend with you!
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Posted By: Jacob Schoolcraft
Date Posted: April 12 2024 at 16:13
Sitting on a bench next to an old friend and trying to accept that her brain has been damaged from Acid was rough on me. It was 1976. I never payed attention to drugs and definitely wasn't knowledgeable in any sense of the word. I noticed that Acid did not do this to everyone however it did damage a significant amount of my teenage friends. She just sat staring into the sky. She seemed lost and when I crossed paths with her in the 80s she acted robotic. She was such a beautiful person and it sucked that her personality was ruined. All the magic in her personality was wiped out.
I knew this guitarist that was really diverse for his age. He had to be committed to Ancora Psychiatric Hospital. He was released and when I heard his guitar playing it was nonsensical. A real talent he had and it was wiped out by a bad Acid trip. He never rejoined the workforce and sat in the corner a lot.
A keyboardist I played in a Progressive Rock band with started taking Acid and turning up to rehearsal with a map that he drew of an underwater city. He would waste a lot of time at rehearsal explaining to the band how he designed the city and that it could be built. This went on for about a week. We had a show on the weekend and at rehearsal his wife called to say that he had to be admitted to the Ancora Psychiatric Hospital and that he was on the roof of the house screaming that he could fly.
Norman was a great keyboardist. He had a several keyboards. A mellotron and he used to get all the sounds for the Vangelis album Heaven & Hell. You'd think it was the album you were listening to. He played Dave Greenslade stuff...Rick Wakeman..he was incredible..what a shame.
We had a show coming up and we couldn't find a keyboardist. I decided to drive to the hospital to see if I could reach him. I wasnt allowed to see him because he was on closed ward. 😔 Wth happened? How does somebody that good on keyboards never play again based on a bad Acid trip?
That was 1976. Fast forward to 1996 ..I was rehearsing with a Blues band. In the basement I could see a couple standing in a corner. When I saw the guy I knew it was Norman. I approached him and said..." Hi Norman...its Johnny...how are you?" He said..."I'm not Norman anymore" "I'm Noah now". I thought it was strange and later that night the drummer told me that Norman and his girlfriend were both in Ancora a few months ago. Their eyes were piercing and all I could think about was Norman's energy level in the 70s when he played Prog Rock and how enthusiastic he was. How we would turn off our amps and sit around his keyboards while he played pieces from Six Wives by Wakeman. How sad. A musician that great lost his talent from having a bad trip.
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Posted By: MortSahlFan
Date Posted: April 13 2024 at 02:45
I never did LSD until I was almost 30.
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Posted By: Jacob Schoolcraft
Date Posted: April 19 2024 at 23:11
Whenever I think about living through the 70s I have definite issues with society's way of reasoning during that time period. Take cults for example...certain people thought they were divine and all sorts of brainwashed morons trusted them.
I'd be sitting next to someone where the signs would be obvious that they belonged to a cult. All I could think was.."Okay you are that...now get away from me. It was revealed to me later in life that the town I grew up in had a documented history of cults and "occult related crimes".
In 1957 Juan Rivera Aponte murdered 13 year old Roger Carletto and buried him beneath a shack. After a certain amount of time passed he dug up his body and removed his powdered skull. He used his skull in a Black Magic spell. A love spell from an old book. He thought that a particular girl that he had eyes for would fall in love with him and it didn't work. Carleton was reported missing and when the cops questioned Aponte he pretended to know very little while setting his boss up for the murder. His boss was incarcerated for a while until Aponte finally came clean and admitted to the murder. He died in prison years later.
By the time I was 15 years old...I woke to the realization that cults gathered by the water or in the woods to worship and actually sacrifice people. Around this time several people went missing.
The 3rd generation Watchtower Society in the Vineland area were interested in occult practices. They tried to channel a demon through Ravyn Guliani ...a young family member who they felt possessed powers to connect with "Hell beings" as she was lowered into a snake pit of dead snakes ...and the gathering of adults would chant. They used her through automatic writing. They were interested in Luciferian practices.
City officials didn't pay attention to reports of cults in the woods. Not until a body submerged at Menantico. Then they took it seriously and Charles Pangburn chief of police began collecting evidence in Vineland and the surrounding areas. His theory was that people were being trained or cultivated to perform rituals.
Some incidents involved people sighting cults and calling the police with the police arriving after the cult fled. It was a strange town to live in for these reasons..but it angered me that it wasn't kept under control. People lie through their teeth on the internet about this place. Total liars.
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Posted By: MortSahlFan
Date Posted: April 20 2024 at 05:56
Wow, interesting... I wonder if the cults now are just online.
Never heard about the "Moonies" anymore. I wonder if the cult documentaries scare people away.
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Posted By: Jacob Schoolcraft
Date Posted: April 20 2024 at 08:52
MortSahlFan wrote:
Wow, interesting... I wonder if the cults now are just online.
Never heard about the "Moonies" anymore. I wonder if the cult documentaries scare people away.
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The Menantico cult are not confined to the internet. They are still active . Several people have come forward over the last 20 plus years to expose the abuse and the fear. They were either sexually abused or chased through the woods.
Several sources state that the cult still exists. Vineland and Millville New Jersey are horrible places to live. It's a redneck mentality in the social environment. No culture. The police closed down Menantico Ponds and they patrol that area making sure no one goes in and out. Maybe someday ..someone will set the place on fire and it will burn to ashes. Maybe they should dig up the dead bodies out there. Yeah...do that
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Posted By: Jacob Schoolcraft
Date Posted: April 20 2024 at 17:51
Sometimes I daydream about the good times I had in the music business. It's a way of life that doesn't always include sexual promiscuity and drug addiction...but becoming family.
I'm ancient fossil and it's like mourning the passing of another lifetime. Throughout the fall and winter of 1978 and winter and spring of 1979 I lived with a band in this historical house made of stone in Media Pennsylvania. We were using western Pennsylvania as a springboard. We car pulled 6 nights a week to Pittsburgh and beyond.
We were a cover band that played regular Rock and Progressive Rock. Our vocalist was outstanding! She could sing Watcher Of The Skies beautifully. We performed in these so called Rock Clubs that were actually concert halls. We would arrive back to the band house at 3 or 4 am and she would light the fireplace , take out her acoustic and begin singing songs. We would all sit by the fire with her listening to her play and sing. .sometimes singing along and life felt worth living.
The idea of being more like family is powerful and that's what saves you from the darkside of the music business. In the early 80s racism was just horrible and I don't know how to describe that vastness and I personally don't understand how anyone could have hatred for someone based on their race. I assume the bigotry revolves around conditioning children to be junior racists.
Nevertheless...I did everything in my power to protect my bandmates when they were threatened by the KKK while we were traveling the road. We were protected by a corporation which included having close ties with the Mob through the different managers. We had 4 different managers.
The corporation and I made an agreement that our band could go off on our own and play shows which fell between the theater bookings where we were a backing band for commercial celebrity entertainers. We had opened for Doc Severison (Johnny Carson show house band)...several times in theaters and sometimes concert halls. We were doing a gig on our own and we were threatened by bigots.
We received 3 encores. Our horn section was phenomenal and our vocalist was outstanding...but when the owner and his goons saw that they were Black..they refused to pay us and they threatened to physically harm us if we didn't leave. I ran over to the pay phone and called one of the managers in the corporation and explained the situation. He was in town and he showed up in a hot minute with two guys that were supposedly hitmen. They basically told the owner either pay the band now or we're going to kill you. The owner paid.
On the side of the stage sat Andrea. We rode the tour bus ..had laughs together and she was like a sister to me. She had her face covered with her hands...crying..and so I hugged her and told her not to worry and that she had our support. She looked at me and said..."No Johnny..you don't understand " "This happens all the time" "For the rest of my life people will always treat me badly because I am Black"
She kept crying and so I held her. She grabbed her bags and ran out to her car...took off...and I never saw her again. That was in 81' I was in my early 20s and naive . I was in shock because I couldn't understand the reasons behind the magnitude of the incident. I could never get used to it. That didn't make it okay for me. It was good that I turned away and moved in a different direction in music.
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