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Topic: Favorite Supertramp albumPosted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Subject: Favorite Supertramp album
Date Posted: January 25 2024 at 08:21
I was recently listening to some of their stuff and so thought of this poll. This is for studio albums only.
Replies: Posted By: Hector Enrique
Date Posted: January 25 2024 at 08:32
1."Crime of the Century" (by far...)
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2. Breakfast in America
3. Even in the Quietest Moments
4. Famous Last Word (although I"t's Raining Again", "Waiting So Long" and "Don't Leave Me Now" are excellent)
------------- Héctor Enrique
Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: January 25 2024 at 08:45
You're not going to get much variation here; CotC is significantly their best, although personally, I actually also love Brother... so,
CotC
Brother
Breakfast
Moments (Fool's Overture is a beauty)
Crisis?
Famous...
------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: January 25 2024 at 08:47
I like the albums 2-5 a lot and have difficulties ranking them. I'll vote for Quietest Moments because I think I enjoy it most listening from beginning to end without interruption, although there isn't much between them. Regarding Supertramp I'm really rather a "my favourite tracks" listener than an album listener. With very few exceptions I love the tracks Hodgson sings so much more than those Davies sings.
Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: January 25 2024 at 08:49
I just noticed that you've included their debut, but then missed Indelibly Stamped, their follow-up... although I agree it wasn't up to much...
------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: January 25 2024 at 08:50
Even in the Quietest Moments... I find myself thinking about cheese, pastries, and telephone poles.
------------- ---------- i'm shopping for a new oil-cured sinus bag that's a happy bag of lettuce this car smells like cartilage nothing beats a good video about fractions
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: January 25 2024 at 08:54
Jared wrote:
I just noticed that you've included their debut, but then missed Indelibly Stamped, their follow-up... although I agree it wasn't up to much...
Well, I figured no one would vote for it (or very few at least) so I didn't include it. I did include FLW though which also isn't that highly rated. I basically didn't include their lowest rated albums on PA (or RYM). Anyone can still vote for them in the "other" category though.
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: January 25 2024 at 08:56
Crime of the Century, as the only one I'm fond of
------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: January 25 2024 at 09:01
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
Jared wrote:
I just noticed that you've included their debut, but then missed Indelibly Stamped, their follow-up... although I agree it wasn't up to much...
Well, I figured no one would vote for it (or very few at least) so I didn't include it. I did include FLW though which also isn't that highly rated. I basically didn't include their lowest rated albums on PA (or RYM). Anyone can still vote for them in the "other" category though.
4 of their albums are missing in the poll.
I listened to the last ones just out of curiosity but I don't remember much, a sign that they were not that good. Maybe I'll give them a second chance. Not Free as a Bird though, that one is just bad.
Indelibly Stamped is not bad at all. It's got a few good songs on it.
Voted for COTC.
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: January 25 2024 at 09:03
I like Supertramp a lot. I think my order of preference would be Crime of the Century, Even In the Quietest Moments..., Crisis? What Crisis? when it comes to my top three. I would include Paris Live amongst my favourite Supertramp albums. Their others have their moments but are not as coherent, imo.
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The razamataz is a pain in the bum
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: January 25 2024 at 09:09
Cristi wrote:
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
Jared wrote:
I just noticed that you've included their debut, but then missed Indelibly Stamped, their follow-up... although I agree it wasn't up to much...
Well, I figured no one would vote for it (or very few at least) so I didn't include it. I did include FLW though which also isn't that highly rated. I basically didn't include their lowest rated albums on PA (or RYM). Anyone can still vote for them in the "other" category though.
4 of their albums are missing in the poll.
I listened to the last ones just out of curiosity but I don't remember much, a sign that they were not that good. Maybe I'll give them a second chance. Not Free as a Bird though, that one is just bad.
Indelibly Stamped is not bad at all. It's got a few good songs on it.
Voted for COTC.
I guess I could have included IS as it's at least probably better than their last three and I agree that there is some good stuff on it but it also includes a song with a racial slur which would definitely not go over well today. That by itself doesn't make the album horrible but it doesn't help any either.
Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: January 25 2024 at 09:12
Crime o' the Century and Breakfast.
------------- Welcome to the middle of the film.
Posted By: MortSahlFan
Date Posted: January 25 2024 at 09:34
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: January 25 2024 at 09:38
While I could go with various albums, I'm going with the oft overlooked debut. I like the psych qualities and I have serious infatuation with "Try Again" in particular.
Posted By: Octopus II
Date Posted: January 25 2024 at 09:42
Crime Of The Century
Crisis? What Crisis?
Breakfast In America
Even In The Quietest Moments
Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: January 25 2024 at 10:11
Crime of the Century, but I'm not a huge Supertramp fan.
Breakfast in America is also pretty good
------------- A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life.
Posted By: Moonshake
Date Posted: January 25 2024 at 13:55
Not a fan. Never was.
Posted By: Steve Wyzard
Date Posted: January 25 2024 at 14:58
1. Crisis? What Crisis?
2. Crime of the Century
3. Breakfast in America
4. Famous Last Words
5. Brother Where You Bound
6. Even in the Quietest Moments
7. Some Things Never Change
8. Free as a Bird
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: January 25 2024 at 15:17
Steve Wyzard wrote:
1. Crisis? What Crisis?
2. Crime of the Century
3. Breakfast in America
4. Famous Last Words
5. Brother Where You Bound
6. Even in the Quietest Moments
7. Some Things Never Change
8. Free as a Bird
You haven't heard the first two?
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: January 25 2024 at 15:19
Moonshake wrote:
Not a fan. Never was.
Does this mean you're an air conditioner?
Sorry, I always wanted to use that on someone.
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: January 25 2024 at 15:20
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
Moonshake wrote:
Not a fan. Never was.
Does this mean you're an air conditioner? Sorry, I always wanted to use that on someone.
Posted By: Steve Wyzard
Date Posted: January 25 2024 at 15:26
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
Steve Wyzard wrote:
1. Crisis? What Crisis?
2. Crime of the Century
3. Breakfast in America
4. Famous Last Words
5. Brother Where You Bound
6. Even in the Quietest Moments
7. Some Things Never Change
8. Free as a Bird
You haven't heard the first two?
I've heard the first two, but it's like a different band. They have some decent moments showing lots of promise, but I consider them to be amateur, warm-up albums. The band reached the major leagues with the addition of John Helliwell.
Posted By: Cosmiclawnmower
Date Posted: January 25 2024 at 15:35
The first lp is one of my all time favourite lps; Crime of the century is great lp (and was recorded with a mobile on a farm not far from here!) and most of the other lps have some nice moments. Indelibly Stamped was possibly the most disappointing second lp of all time
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: January 25 2024 at 16:05
Finally a vote for BiA.
Posted By: Jaketejas
Date Posted: January 25 2024 at 16:33
That was me. I didn’t want to be cynical. It just seemed logical.
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: January 25 2024 at 16:45
Crime Of The Century. By a few dozen miles.
------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology...
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: January 25 2024 at 17:29
CotC EITQM CWC? BIA Indelibly Stamped BWYB
------------- Ian
Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com
Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: January 25 2024 at 17:40
Nogbad wrote:
CWC?
Chris-Chan? :P
------------- “On the day of my creation, I fell in love with education. And overcoming all frustration, a teacher I became.” — Ernest Vong
Posted By: Boojieboy
Date Posted: January 25 2024 at 18:41
The first is by far the most proggy. I'm not sure why people here don't like that one. The rest are rather poppy and/or straight rock in comparison.
I wonder why 2nd album "Indelibly Stamped" was left off the list. Not that it's a great album or anything, but it shouldn't be left out.
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: January 25 2024 at 18:57
Boojieboy wrote:
The first is by far the most proggy. I'm not sure why people here don't like that one. The rest are rather poppy and/or straight rock in comparison.
I wonder why 2nd album "Indelibly Stamped" was left off the list. Not that it's a great album or anything, but it shouldn't be left out.
Because it's apparently not that good. I never heard it but it's not rated very highly. The fact that I don't have any "other" votes (not yet anyway) tells me I made the right decision by leaving it off.
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: January 25 2024 at 22:59
Crime is one of the few albums I've heard that I can't find anything to critic against (Camel's Mirage may be another and was also released the same year). OK it may not be on the most cutting edge of prog rock releases compared to the likes of King Crimson and Genesis but it's defintely a prog album. I also love Breakfast In America although that is more pop/rock rather than art school rock which Crime is. I don't care for much other Supertramp other than Fool's Overture so it's a bit of weird one. I think much like Camel their greatest music was squeezed into just a few releases.
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: January 26 2024 at 00:55
Crime of the Century.
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: January 26 2024 at 01:34
COTC (yes, 6)
BWYB, Début, EITQM
I went for Brother because it needs much reevaluation. What a splendid mid-80's album - and and a semi-conceptual one at that too. Almost as angry as a Roger Waters solo album, including the related videos.
BTW, the other Roger's ITEOTS is also quite good, but lacks brilliance and shows hurt rather than anger.
Crisis, Breakfast,
FLW, IS, SNC, SM
FAAB (not even 1 - An Awful Thing To Waste >> Roger's Haï2 is just as awful, BTW)
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------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword
Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: January 26 2024 at 02:47
Sean Trane wrote:
I went for Brother because it needs much reevaluation. What a splendid mid-80's album - and and a semi-conceptual one at that too. Almost as angry as a Roger Waters solo album, including the related videos.
Beautifully put! I agree with you completely... one of the best 80's albums released by any band that had its roots in the 70's!!
------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: January 26 2024 at 05:44
Crime of the Century Crisis what crisis ? Even in the quietest moments is a perfect trilogy Before CS is nevertheless interesting and ....incredibly their second LP ' Indebily stamped ' is not in your list =?!. Why ? just forgotten or ? BiA is imo uninteresting ( Who cares of Bee gees disco like vocals ?) After EITQM , I like the Brother where you bound epic title
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: January 26 2024 at 05:48
mellotronwave wrote:
BiA is imo uninteresting ( Who cares of Bee gees disco like vocals ?)
I don't think there was any attempt to imitate the Bee Gees. The Supertramp vocals were always a bit high-pitched anyway.
Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: January 26 2024 at 05:51
Cristi wrote:
mellotronwave wrote:
BiA is imo uninteresting ( Who cares of Bee gees disco like vocals ?)
I don't think there was any attempt to imitate the Bee Gees. The Supertramp vocals were always a bit high-pitched anyway.
I know that ...
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: January 26 2024 at 06:30
Jared wrote:
Sean Trane wrote:
I went for Brother because it needs much reevaluation. What a splendid mid-80's album - and and a semi-conceptual one at that too. Almost as angry as a Roger Waters solo album, including the related videos.
Beautifully put! I agree with you completely... one of the best 80's albums released by any band that had its roots in the 70's!!
Indeed.
Crest of Knave, ELPowell are far behind, though they're OK (at best)
Discipline is not the 70's Crimson and Floyd's two albums are more solo albums (one by Roger, which is OK, and David's is awful) than anything else.
Let's not even mention Yes or Camel
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------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword
Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: January 26 2024 at 06:42
Sean Trane wrote:
Indeed.
Crest of Knave, ELPowell are far behind, though they're OK (at best)
Discipline is not the 70's Crimson and Floyd's two albums are more solo albums (one by Roger, which is OK, and David's is awful) than anything else.
Let's not even mention Yes or Camel
I mostly agree with what you say, although I'd prefer to listen to Gilmour's B-grade PF than Water's angst..
but with Camel? I actually like Nude, while Traveller is OK..
------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
Posted By: Moyan
Date Posted: April 13 2024 at 23:55
"Breakfast in America" by miles.
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: April 14 2024 at 23:20
Sean Trane wrote:
Jared wrote:
Sean Trane wrote:
I went for Brother because it needs much reevaluation. What a splendid mid-80's album - and and a semi-conceptual one at that too. Almost as angry as a Roger Waters solo album, including the related videos.
Beautifully put! I agree with you completely... one of the best 80's albums released by any band that had its roots in the 70's!!
Indeed.
Crest of Knave, ELPowell are far behind, though they're OK (at best)
Discipline is not the 70's Crimson and Floyd's two albums are more solo albums (one by Roger, which is OK, and David's is awful) than anything else.
Let's not even mention Yes or Camel
.
Brother isn't 70's Supertramp either (no Roger Hodgson) so could be considered a Rick Davies solo album. I much prefer Hodgson's solo album In The Eye Of The Storm that came out in 1984 and actually sounds to me more like a Supertamp album than RD's offering.
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: April 15 2024 at 03:03
richardh wrote:
Sean Trane wrote:
Jared wrote:
Sean Trane wrote:
I went for Brother because it needs much reevaluation. What a splendid mid-80's album - and and a semi-conceptual one at that too. Almost as angry as a Roger Waters solo album, including the related videos.
Beautifully put! I agree with you completely... one of the best 80's albums released by any band that had its roots in the 70's!!
Indeed.
Crest of Knave, ELPowell are far behind, though they're OK (at best)
Discipline is not the 70's Crimson and Floyd's two albums are more solo albums (one by Roger, which is OK, and David's is awful) than anything else.
Let's not even mention Yes or Camel
.
Brother isn't 70's Supertramp either (no Roger Hodgson) so could be considered a Rick Davies solo album. I much prefer Hodgson's solo album In The Eye Of The Storm that came out in 1984 and actually sounds to me more like a Supertramp album than RD's offering.
I like Eye Of The Storm, but it's whiny, IMHO. It sounds like Roger is ailing (unease and sores seeps though every pore) and misses being in the band already (not that I think he ever was, since he left), while Brother goes on without Roger and don't (seem to) miss him for one bit. I think Brother is a whole lot more Supertramp than AMLOR is Floyd.
However the next albums (Bird and Haï) would suck big times.
I wouldn't dismiss the other three members' participations in the band's song credits *, and apparently a fair bit of Brother was already written by the time Roger exited the band. Someone even said that Roger didn't want those tracks to appear on FLW, but that remains unconfirmed.
*: As we've seen very recently, the three (Siebenberg/Thompson/Helliwell) sue Hodgson for unpaid royalties contractual retrocessions since 2015 (which Davies had also stopped in 2019, but this was settled out of court). Roger won, but maybe appeal will be cast.
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------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: April 15 2024 at 03:18
Breakfast in America
Posted By: MortSahlFan
Date Posted: April 15 2024 at 05:36
Crime
Crisis
They've been one of my Top 5 bands my entire life music listening life.