Who is the greatest drummer of all time?
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Topic: Who is the greatest drummer of all time?
Posted By: Frets N Worries
Subject: Who is the greatest drummer of all time?
Date Posted: November 09 2023 at 05:39
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Me and my Brother used to bicker about who was a better drummer, Bonham or Bruford. I'm curious to hear y'all's opinions, thoughs? ------------- The Wheel of Time Turns, and Ages come and pass. What was, what will be, and what is, may yet fall under the shadow. Let the Dragon ride again on the winds of time... |
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: November 09 2023 at 06:04
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Tony Williams |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 09 2023 at 06:09
| Ginger Baker |
Posted By: Octopus II
Date Posted: November 09 2023 at 06:15
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Neil Peart and Carl Palmer.
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: November 09 2023 at 06:16
| Bonzo. |
Posted By: JD
Date Posted: November 09 2023 at 06:34
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There is NO Greatest Drummer of ALL time. There are only Greatest Drummers of a SPECIFIC time. But to scratch your itch.. in no particular order. And remember, this is Prog only, there are soooo many more from soooo many other genres that absolutely shine. Carl Palmer Neil Peart Phil Collins (yup) Bill Bruford Phil Ehart
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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: November 09 2023 at 06:47
I agree and I'll add a few more to your list. Marco Minnemann Pip Pyle Toss Panos Mike Portony Chad Wackerman Paul Wertico Vinnie Colaiuta Simon Phillips and many others
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JD wrote:Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: November 09 2023 at 07:00
 Of these, Bruford. |
Posted By: Frets N Worries
Date Posted: November 09 2023 at 07:05
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^Whoops, meant to say 'Better Drummer', fixed it ------------- The Wheel of Time Turns, and Ages come and pass. What was, what will be, and what is, may yet fall under the shadow. Let the Dragon ride again on the winds of time... |
Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: November 09 2023 at 08:07
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Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: November 09 2023 at 08:53
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Buddy Rich. Gene Krupa a close second. My bladder tap dances to semi-aquatic sofas and mustache refrigerators. ------------- ---------- i'm shopping for a new oil-cured sinus bag that's a happy bag of lettuce this car smells like cartilage nothing beats a good video about fractions |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: November 09 2023 at 10:13
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Chris Cutler Daniel Denis Dave Kerman ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: November 09 2023 at 10:25
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Lard Ulrich ------------- Heaven is waiting but waiting is Hell |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: November 09 2023 at 10:40
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Posted By: Steve Wyzard
Date Posted: November 09 2023 at 13:31
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Jazz: Tony Williams & Elvin Jones Rock: John Bonham, Bill Bruford, Phil Collins, Steve Negus, Carl Palmer, Cozy Powell, Stephen Tassler, Alan White
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: November 09 2023 at 13:52
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Neil Peart Mike Portnoy Bill Bruford Nick D'Virgilio Gavin Harrison ------------- 
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: November 09 2023 at 14:31
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The question was about Bonham & Bruford, and who was 'greatest'. Greatest indicates power, importance, size, intensity, strength. That's easy, the one and only John Henry 'Bonzo Dog' Bonham. ------------- "Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy |
Posted By: Frets N Worries
Date Posted: November 09 2023 at 14:40
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^Oh i didn't mean between them two, I just meant in general ------------- The Wheel of Time Turns, and Ages come and pass. What was, what will be, and what is, may yet fall under the shadow. Let the Dragon ride again on the winds of time... |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: November 09 2023 at 15:11
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^ Yeah... John Bonham. ------------- "Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: November 09 2023 at 15:55
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Cozy Powell > John Bonham. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: Hiram
Date Posted: November 09 2023 at 21:20
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1. all time best ever is Dale Crover! Many other good ones already mentioned, but I'll add Barriemore Barlow (Jethro Tull) and Tim Alexander (Primus).
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: November 09 2023 at 22:32
that's a ballsy statement I would go for Keith Moon in 'pop or punk' Carl Palmer in prog (tempted to go for Peart but Palmer did Tarkus!) Bonham (sorry!) in classic heavy rock Nicko McBrain in metal Buddy Rich in jazz of course! none of them are that comparable so can't be a greatest. However Carl Palmer was a mighty force at his best , defining what prog drumming was all about and is still drumming at a good level into his seventies. Such a shame he took a lot of criticism of his style in ELP to heart and changed to a very ordinary out of the box drummer in the 80's when he joined Asia. Honourable mention to the late great Jon Hiseman who rarely gets mentioned in any of these types of discussions but had no peers (accept maybe Billy Cobham ) |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: November 10 2023 at 07:49
| When I listen to Rush I think it's Neil Peart but when I listen to ELP I think it's Carl Palmer. Bill Bruford is up there too. |
Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: November 10 2023 at 08:33
Same. It strongly depends on the musical context. For instance, I wouldn't imagine Side A of Something Anything with drums on it being perfectly in time, performed by a professional drummer. Todd's amateur drumming creates a charm that can't be matched. B) EDIT: not to get offtopic, I'm recently impressed by Felix Lehrmann's drumming skills. Definitely one of the greatest drummers ever in terms of technique and ability to fit different musical scenarios.
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Posted By: Frets N Worries
Date Posted: November 10 2023 at 08:37
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No love for Alan White? ------------- The Wheel of Time Turns, and Ages come and pass. What was, what will be, and what is, may yet fall under the shadow. Let the Dragon ride again on the winds of time... |
Posted By: Steve Wyzard
Date Posted: November 10 2023 at 09:52
Check my post from one page back - he's definitely in there! As long as I'm here, I'd also like to mention FM's Martin Deller!
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: November 10 2023 at 10:11
It's not that controversial. I know many are fueled by their veneration for LZ, but Cozy was a much better, tighter drummer. He played with Jeff Beck, Ritchie Blackmore, Michael Schenker, E&L, Black Sabbath, and led his own bands. Another great versatile drummer is Carmine Appice. He's a founding member of Vanilla Fudge and Cactus. He's played with Jeff Beck, Rod Stewart, Ozzy, and many others. But my favorite Carmine project was John Sykes' excellent trio Blue Murder.
I love Carl and there are loads of fine prog drummers, from Collins to Ehart, so it's a hard call. But most of them are better timekeepers than Carl, with Terry Bozzio and Marco Minnemann near the top. For metal, Nicko's good and has a lot of stamina, but I think Scott Rockenfield, Charlie Benante, Vinny Appice (Carmine's brother), and the late Nick Menza are all better.
IMO, the late great Tony Williams, along with Billy Cobham and Dennis Chambers , are easily among the greatest to pick up the sticks. That Virgil Donati guy from down under is pretty intense, too.  ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: November 10 2023 at 10:14
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Prog bands only: Neil Peart Phil Collins Gavin Harrison Mike Portnoy Nick Mason Alan White -------------   
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: November 10 2023 at 13:12
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If I can just nominate one as the GOAT it's got to be Bruford even though that's something of a boring choice. But still... Also up there (and maybe not so far up other people's lists) are Jaki Liebezeit and Pierre Moerlen. |
Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: November 10 2023 at 13:14
| Bill Bruford |
Posted By: MortSahlFan
Date Posted: November 10 2023 at 13:35
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: November 10 2023 at 15:24
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Bruford may be [one of] the finest drummer, but he is quite far from the greatest. ------------- "Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy |
Posted By: Guy Guden
Date Posted: November 10 2023 at 17:27
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Jaki Liebezeit is my favourite. ------------- https://twitch.tv/guygudenspacepirateradio |
Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: November 11 2023 at 05:38
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I don't think he's been mentioned yet, but I'll be a fanboy and mention Guy Evans. Reviewers listening to Van der Graaf Generator often give high praise to Guy Evans for his drumming. ------------- No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man. |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: November 11 2023 at 05:45
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As we're in the General Music area I should mention Tony Allen. |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: November 11 2023 at 05:48
https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/the-10-tallest-rock-drummers.1178245/" rel="nofollow - https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/the-10-tallest-rock-drummers.1178245/
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