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Topic: Write some blurbs at AwesomeProg!Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Subject: Write some blurbs at AwesomeProg!
Date Posted: November 09 2023 at 01:07
We recently introduced blurbs at AwesomeProg - maybe you'd like to write some for your favorite releases of 2023?
Perosnally, I'd rather write ten short blurbs for ten different releases than one lengthy review for one release. But you do you! I think it's a great way to promote releases, and the artists need all the promotion they can get. Let me know what you think about the feature. It's not in competition with PA, since PA does not allow blurbs (at this time).
So, feel free to blurb away at https://awesomeprog.com" rel="nofollow - https://awesomeprog.com !
Here's an example of how the blurbs are displayed: https://awesomeprog.com/releases/63866" rel="nofollow - https://awesomeprog.com/releases/63866
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Replies: Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: November 09 2023 at 02:46
^ Heavy neo prog rock/pop? Really? That makes this site’s sub-genre policy look manageable
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: November 09 2023 at 02:52
What are you objecting to? If it's the "pop", that comes from RYM, where the release is tagged as "Progressive Pop", among other things.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 09 2023 at 04:05
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
What are you objecting to? If it's the "pop", that comes from RYM, where the release is tagged as "Progressive Pop", among other things.
Probably because "Heavy neo prog rock/pop" doesn't make much sense.
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: November 09 2023 at 04:18
How so? I don't see the contradiction. It's neo prog rock, it's quite heavy at times, and it has pop leanings. Where's the problem? And after all, nobody assigned this as a consistent label, it's just a summary of all the assigned tags.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 09 2023 at 05:11
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
How so? I don't see the contradiction. It's neo prog rock, it's quite heavy at times, and it has pop leanings. Where's the problem? And after all, nobody assigned this as a consistent label, it's just a summary of all the assigned tags.
what's a pop leaning in a heavy neo-prog sound? The fact that it's catchy? Then Slayer's Season in the Abyss is a pop album.
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: November 09 2023 at 06:06
^ Ask the RYM users - I assigned neither "Neo" nor "Pop" to the album. I think that for both tags there is not enough influence on the release to warrant the inclusion in the label, so I assigned appropriate levels. Now the tags badge says "Melodic Neo Prog Rock/Metal", which is a good fit IMHO. Two other users assigned the Neo tag, so I'm not able to overrule them - which is a good thing, as genre labels are community driven at AP.
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: November 09 2023 at 06:16
^ BUT I'm thinking about introducing specific prog genres again, including Neo-Prog, and retiring the "modern" and "neo" tags, since they carry little value and/or can be misleading depending on the genre they get attached to.
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 09 2023 at 06:28
Cristi wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
What are you objecting to? If it's the "pop", that comes from RYM, where the release is tagged as "Progressive Pop", among other things.
Probably because "Heavy neo prog rock/pop" doesn't make much sense.
I agree. No other music genre causes as much confusion as the Neo Prog tag (at least with me anyhow), but when an album is labelled as Heavy Neo Prog Rock/Pop, that takes Confusion to a whole new level.
Posted By: Frets N Worries
Date Posted: November 09 2023 at 06:29
I think we're just in a land of confusion
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 09 2023 at 06:35
Frets N Worries wrote:
I think we're just in a Land of Confusion
That would have been my second choice of song, after ELO.
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: November 09 2023 at 06:37
I don’t “object” to anything. I couldn’t give a fig or a fart what you do with your website. Such tagging, or anal retentiveness as some quacks no doubt call it, amuses me.
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Posted By: Frets N Worries
Date Posted: November 09 2023 at 06:39
^Or Led Zeppelin's 'Dazed and Confused'?
Either way, there is a point where all the subgenre talk becomes pointless, also, I like writing long reviews, but I can see how blurbs are useful, whatever floats your boat I guess.
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: November 09 2023 at 07:00
lazland wrote:
I don’t “object” to anything. I couldn’t give a fig or a fart what you do with your website. Such tagging, or anal retentiveness as some quacks no doubt call it, amuses me.
Well, likewise. f**k off.
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: November 09 2023 at 07:03
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
Cristi wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
What are you objecting to? If it's the "pop", that comes from RYM, where the release is tagged as "Progressive Pop", among other things.
Probably because "Heavy neo prog rock/pop" doesn't make much sense.
I agree. No other music genre causes as much confusion as the Neo Prog tag (at least with me anyhow), but when an album is labelled as Heavy Neo Prog Rock/Pop, that takes Confusion to a whole new level.
Well, don't ever go to RYM then.
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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: November 09 2023 at 07:43
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
lazland wrote:
I don’t “object” to anything. I couldn’t give a fig or a fart what you do with your website. Such tagging, or anal retentiveness as some quacks no doubt call it, amuses me.
Well, likewise. f**k off.
You really are a bit of a charmer, aren't you? I bet you have all the ladies falling over themselves to receive your attentions.
Oh well, I won't denigrate myself by stooping to that level.
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: November 09 2023 at 07:52
^ Too late. I stooped down to your level just briefly. The world will survive
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: November 09 2023 at 08:34
Frets N Worries wrote:
I think we're just in a land of confusion
Hi,
BALL OF CONFUSION. Though it is likely that many here would not even bother listening to it!
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: November 09 2023 at 09:22
^ It's a really great Pop song, along with Jesus He Knows Me.
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Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: November 09 2023 at 09:33
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
lazland wrote:
I don’t “object” to anything. I
couldn’t give a fig or a fart what you do with your website. Such
tagging, or anal retentiveness as some quacks no doubt call it, amuses
me.
Well, likewise. f**k off.
Ah, yes, https://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=131977" rel="nofollow - this was you too , wasn't it?
Anyway, I think that people confuse those tags with genre labels, which is not what they are, of course. It is what you also find at the bottom of bandcamp album pages: tags. These can coincide with genre indications, but can also go any which way the user wants it to go. It is an Internet thing: useful indexation with tag words that might facilitate the retrieval of search results corresponding to what one is looking for. This has not much to do with cataloguing rules, and thus not with genre labels either, or not necessarily, but I don't think that this is the aim of these tags, especially since it it user generated.
It is an interesting feature and I can see the usefulness of it. "Heavy neo prog rock/pop" does give me - at least some vague - indications of what I can expect...
Oh, and the blurb thing seems to me a nice feature (it will add some keywords to the site...good for the search engines). I won't contribute, but I might read those every once in a while.
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: November 09 2023 at 10:38
^ yes, it was me who said that we SHOULD be polite here. But sometimes I just can’t help myself - if excrement is flung at me, I fling it right back
Anyways, thanks for the feedback!
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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: November 09 2023 at 10:56
I could write some blurbs, but do you accept those with less than a B rating? Most of the reviews and blurbs on your site are A or B. Over-rated imo.
And I'm not a wordsmith like your current reviewers.
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 09 2023 at 10:58
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
^ BUT I'm thinking about introducing specific prog genres again, including Neo-Prog, and retiring the "modern" and "neo" tags, since they carry little value and/or can be misleading depending on the genre they get attached to.
But neo-prog refers to a specific subgenre and sound.
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: November 09 2023 at 11:04
^ yes, that’s why it might make sense to have “neo-prog” as a genre tag. Which btw is a bad fit for Subsignal imho. They don’t really fit in that niche.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 09 2023 at 11:07
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
^ yes, that’s why it might make sense to have “neo-prog” as a genre tag. Which btw is a bad fit for Subsignal imho. They don’t really fit in that niche.
It is a genre tag.
Subsignal is not neo-prog, I agree and said it several times. People either don't know the band or don't care about the correct genre tag for the band.
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: November 09 2023 at 11:10
You’re welcome to blurb anything, it doesn’t need to be positive - but it should be your honest opinion. There is no filter that only picks favorable ratings. I think that people generally tend to put in the effort to write or even rate/tag something preferably for stuff they like, that’s why favorable feedback will usually be overrepresented.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 09 2023 at 11:11
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
You’re welcome to blurb anything, it doesn’t need to be positive - but it should be your honest opinion. There is no filter that only picks favorable ratings. I think that people generally tend to put in the effort to write or even rate/tag something preferably for stuff they like, that’s why favorable feedback will usually be overrepresented.
Maybe, I still struggle to navigate AP.
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: November 09 2023 at 11:14
^ Yes, it’s still too complicated. Working on that …
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Posted By: tempest_77
Date Posted: November 13 2023 at 17:32
The website does not load for me.
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: November 14 2023 at 05:42
^ Please check again - I've been making frequent updates the last couple of days, but things should be stable now.
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