Portnoy back in DT!
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Topic: Portnoy back in DT!
Posted By: essexboyinwales
Subject: Portnoy back in DT!
Date Posted: October 25 2023 at 09:18
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https://dreamtheater.net/dream-theater-announce-the-return-of-drummer-mike-portnoy/ Hopefully this is great news, to me their last decent album was Black Clouds And Silver Linings, the last one to feature MP. What say you (other DT fans)?! 😊 ------------- Heaven is waiting but waiting is Hell |
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Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: October 25 2023 at 09:39
| https://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=131963" rel="nofollow - just created the thread 30 minutes ago |
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: October 25 2023 at 10:38
| I say, yawn. Not clear why Mangini left. |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: October 25 2023 at 12:04
Hi, In my book, I think this was coming all along ... MP was a big part of creating material in the earlier days, and he will, again, do so, I imagine. The tough part about Mangini, is that I'm not sure that he improved the music as much, and that left DT a one sided band, and the drumming for my tastes was not that great ... excellent time keeper, but is that all there is to it? But, I am pretty sure that MM knew that if MP wanted back, he had to step down. Specially as MP was so important to the marketing and the running of the band in the earlier days, something that DT might have lost with him gone. I think that someone wanted a bit more from the folks in the band, and I have a feeling that he just did not add the touch and feel that DT was hoping to get ... we'll see what happens in their next effort, but I bet it is going to be explosive! And a small triplet or touch here and there, was not enough ... you still have to decorate the music, not just follow it! We learned nothing from Carl Palmer! Or Bonzo! Or Moonie! I do not think MP is an exceptional drummer. I do think he is much more than a showman than he is a drummer, but he obviously stood up for making the music stronger, instead of just drumming the beat right through it!
------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Grumpyprogfan wrote:Posted By: alienshore
Date Posted: October 25 2023 at 14:03
| I hate this news ..., I don´t like Portnoy and his non-musical drumming, but it´s good for business, it is a business management decision, Dream Theater was going down on Billboard charts and record sales, so another studio album with Portnoy will get higher on charts and makes more money |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 25 2023 at 14:08
This is my all-time favourite Dream Theater drummer.  |
Posted By: Hector Enrique
Date Posted: October 25 2023 at 14:23
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Portnoy was one of the legs of the Dream Theater table, but not Mangini. Although he was technically impeccable, he never filled the void left by Portnoy, not so much because of a question of virtuosity, but of a sense of belonging. It always seemed to me that Mangini was filling a borrowed spot, and he did it with a lot of professionalism, respect and correctness, like his final words of thanks to the band and their fans. Hopefully this return of Portnoy will bring new airs to the band and DT will get out of the loop they are immersed in with their last albums, copying themselves over and over again. So be it. ------------- Héctor Enrique |
Posted By: Evolver
Date Posted: October 25 2023 at 14:27
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I loved "View From The Top Of The World" (with Mangini on drums). ------------- Trust me. I know what I'm doing. |
Posted By: progbethyname
Date Posted: October 25 2023 at 14:48
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Wait? What ? Is this really true? Dear god it is!! Listen. I’m grateful for Mangini. He did some great things with the band. My fondness memory would be his live Drum solo off the “Live in Buenos Aires” album. Good lord. Amazing. 2nd would the track “the Enigma machine.” Unbelievable stuff. Buuuuuuuuuut….. Mike Portnoy. When Portnoy was in the band I feel DT were at their best and had the most magic. Also let’s not kid ourselves about the production choices on the overall sound of Portnoy’s drums. Very powerful and organic sounding. I can’t say the same about Mangini’s. Anyway. Colour me happy on this guys. This is not a question of which Mike is better. It is about overall band/team chemistry and it is greater with Portnoy. It is what it is. Let’s just enjoy this, especially as fans. This is for the best. ------------- Gimmie my headphones now!!! 🎧🤣 |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: October 25 2023 at 15:04
He was let go so that Portnoy could come back.
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: October 25 2023 at 17:54
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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: October 25 2023 at 18:13
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: October 25 2023 at 20:43
| I think the expression is 'I don't have a dog in this fight'. La Brie's voice probably needs replacing more than the drummer but hey ho (sorry reviving an old argument) |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: October 26 2023 at 19:41
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Totally not a surprise, other than I expected this about 2-3yrs ago. From the get-go, Mangini was essentially filling a spot and I think he knew that from day 1. I am sure after 4-5yrs he felt maybe it could be permanent...I too am not looking at this as Mike vs Mike, although I much prefer Portnoy. Portnoy brings back hopefully a much improved production flavor to their upcoming records, Petrucci was not doing a good job, alone. I'd also add it's time to get rid of Rudess and bring back Kevin Moore. -------------   
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: October 27 2023 at 02:50
can we replace all of them? 
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: October 27 2023 at 08:13
With the Buggles?
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Posted By: progbethyname
Date Posted: October 27 2023 at 17:15
I want a Train of Thought 2.  The album should be called “trained Thought” and the whole album is Portnoy showing off on drums like Neil Peart on “Between the Wheels.” I’d buy a copy.  ------------- Gimmie my headphones now!!! 🎧🤣 |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: October 27 2023 at 21:09
I love ToT!!! Prog-metal at it's best from start to finish. Between the Wheels a beauty of a song.-------------
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Posted By: progbethyname
Date Posted: October 27 2023 at 21:28
Hey Jośe. It is gonna happen. You gotta believe. I’m absolutely buying the next album. You’ll get the vinyl and I’ll get the blu ray audio. We’re good.  ------------- Gimmie my headphones now!!! 🎧🤣 |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: October 28 2023 at 06:41
Hi, That's the worst haircut I have ever seen on MP! ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: October 28 2023 at 07:35
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^ TBF, the band is all about (bad) hair/beards now, with JP and JR … ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to: 
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Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: October 28 2023 at 07:38
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No TOT2 please😳 ------------- Heaven is waiting but waiting is Hell |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: October 28 2023 at 12:28
Don't you mean hair/beard dye now? ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: October 28 2023 at 12:45
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I’m not into beards - there’s the dye for MP and JR, but also a line of care products from JP. And whiskey! Might check out the latter 😎 ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 28 2023 at 14:54
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Did someone mention beards? |
Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: October 28 2023 at 15:53
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My other esophagus is a Cadillac. ------------- ---------- i'm shopping for a new oil-cured sinus bag that's a happy bag of lettuce this car smells like cartilage nothing beats a good video about fractions |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: October 28 2023 at 15:56
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Just in case someone wasn't aware: https://www.captainfawcett.com/collections/john-petrucci-nebula-signature-series" rel="nofollow - https://www.captainfawcett.com/collections/john-petrucci-nebula-signature-series ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: October 28 2023 at 16:21
News to me! (See, you'd have to be into beards to know about that sort of stuff.)------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: October 28 2023 at 16:56
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