prog metal - the future of prog ??
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Topic: prog metal - the future of prog ??
Posted By: horza
Subject: prog metal - the future of prog ??
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 08:02
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what do you think ?? ------------- Originally posted by darkshade: Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot. |
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 08:03
This is a deja vu ... it has been discussed in another thread this weekend. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to: 
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Posted By: horza
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 08:05
^ i think i contributed to it just wanted it out in the open,it was buried somewhat - oooops  ------------- Originally posted by darkshade: Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot. |
Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 08:08
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NO ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Fjuffe/?chartstyle=sideRed - [IMG - http://imagegen.last.fm/sideRed/recenttracks/Fjuffe.gif - |
Posted By: horza
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 08:10
^thanks for that - your argument was ....  ------------- Originally posted by darkshade: Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot. |
Posted By: Mategra
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 08:13
| Prog metal - not much of a future |
Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 08:13
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Hehe..no judging by the standards i have seen by the newest prog-metal artist they dont provide sufficient devopment of the genre...Infact i think prog-metal has been one of the most stagnant sub-genres over the past 10 years. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Fjuffe/?chartstyle=sideRed - [IMG - http://imagegen.last.fm/sideRed/recenttracks/Fjuffe.gif - |
Posted By: horza
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 08:14
its is vibrant,alive and appeals to the youth who will hopefully discover other shades of prog rock  ------------- Originally posted by darkshade: Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 08:16
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What's stagnant about Fantomas? ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 08:18
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Yep bands like Sleepytime gorilla museum and Fantomas provide a fresh spark of originality but they are not categorized as prog-metal ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Fjuffe/?chartstyle=sideRed - [IMG - http://imagegen.last.fm/sideRed/recenttracks/Fjuffe.gif - |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 08:19
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Well prog-metal will always firstly attract fans of metal...and metal is not really that popular as it was in the 80's ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Fjuffe/?chartstyle=sideRed - [IMG - http://imagegen.last.fm/sideRed/recenttracks/Fjuffe.gif - |
Posted By: horza
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 08:19
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opeth stagnant ??? don't think so ------------- Originally posted by darkshade: Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 08:19
They're more Avant-Prog than Prog Metal, but when you ask a prog traditionalist he'll put them into Prog Metal. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: horza
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 08:21
meshuggah seem to be attracting a vibrant audience  ------------- Originally posted by darkshade: Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot. |
Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 08:21
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Well opeth is far from being a original band...the sound structures are basically the same and although a song like Hours of wealth is not a very traditonal song for a prog-metal band it is basically very unoriginal songwise ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Fjuffe/?chartstyle=sideRed - [IMG - http://imagegen.last.fm/sideRed/recenttracks/Fjuffe.gif - |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 08:23
BTW: SGM are clearly not Prog Metal ... Fantomas are much heavier. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 08:24
Yep but traditonal prog-metal whatever that is is pretty much going nowhere with bands like Symphony-x Shadow Gallery and Pain of salvation ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Fjuffe/?chartstyle=sideRed - [IMG - http://imagegen.last.fm/sideRed/recenttracks/Fjuffe.gif - |
Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 08:25
Well even fantomas releases albums almost complety without metal like delirium cordia...and SGM was compared to sepultura and their vocals are a bit metalish ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Fjuffe/?chartstyle=sideRed - [IMG - http://imagegen.last.fm/sideRed/recenttracks/Fjuffe.gif - |
Posted By: horza
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 08:26
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^ so who represents progs best hope for the future ?
please don't say mars volta,surprise me ------------- Originally posted by darkshade: Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 08:28
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Shadow Gallery are very close to Neo-Prog ... they're not going anywhere meaning that they have found their own sound and stick with it. They grow with each album though ... in terms of songwriting, musicianship and experience. One of my favorite bands! Symphony X are a remarkable band ... if you look at their last three albums you see many differences, and I don't expect their next album to be like any of the previous three. Pretty good development there. Pain of Salvation: They're a veritable fountain of development. BE is a very ambitioned album, and even more than Symphony X I'm sure that the next PoS album will also be totally different. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: Eetu Pellonpaa
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 08:29
^^ Anekdoten? 
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 08:30
Fantomas: That's one out of 4 albums ... Delirium Cordia was an experiment. You also don't categorize Pink Floyd by DSoTM, Dream Theater by Falling into Infinity or Iron Maiden by Brave New World. Regarding SGM: I'm not entirely sure because I only know Of Natural History, but I don't think they're anywhere near Sepultura. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 08:30
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i would have to say bands like radiohead and the mars volta yes, because these bands get airplay at the radio and they get talked about on tv plus the critics seem to praise them highly ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Fjuffe/?chartstyle=sideRed - [IMG - http://imagegen.last.fm/sideRed/recenttracks/Fjuffe.gif - |
Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 08:31
Yep and also a band like Iron Maiden is developing their sound but basically they do it within the boundries of their genre and they dont try for something that is really untraditonal or have never been done before in that genre. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Fjuffe/?chartstyle=sideRed - [IMG - http://imagegen.last.fm/sideRed/recenttracks/Fjuffe.gif - |
Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 08:33
Well Mike pattons music is generally hard to classify and perhaps it is the vocals that makes me think Metal straight at once ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Fjuffe/?chartstyle=sideRed - [IMG - http://imagegen.last.fm/sideRed/recenttracks/Fjuffe.gif - |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 08:33
Pushing the boundaries is not THE criterium for prog. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 08:36
Well atleast i does not think that they are unique enough to be praised by fans that are already into the prog-metal thingie because all fans of prog metal almost begin with Dream theater...and fans of POS and Symphony x and such are already into prog when they get into those bands ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Fjuffe/?chartstyle=sideRed - [IMG - http://imagegen.last.fm/sideRed/recenttracks/Fjuffe.gif - |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 08:38
Most fans of Prog Metal know Iron Maiden well ... no need to promote them. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 08:38
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Infact the most original prog-metal piece i have heard these past 10 years is Ayreon-Loser wich is a fairly original take to prog-metal ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Fjuffe/?chartstyle=sideRed - [IMG - http://imagegen.last.fm/sideRed/recenttracks/Fjuffe.gif - |
Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 08:40
Are you suggesting that maiden is progressive? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Fjuffe/?chartstyle=sideRed - [IMG - http://imagegen.last.fm/sideRed/recenttracks/Fjuffe.gif - |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 08:41
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Then you should listen to Devin Townsend's solo albums - some full songs are available in my link database. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 08:42
Yes thats true Devin Townsend is one of the more original prog-metal artists that is out there...fantastic way of composing ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Fjuffe/?chartstyle=sideRed - [IMG - http://imagegen.last.fm/sideRed/recenttracks/Fjuffe.gif - |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 08:45
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^ underrated by people who don't pay attention to detail. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 08:50
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Yep i just looove Townsends contributions to The human equation But to get back to topic i dont think prog-metal will be the feature of prog since metal is not popular enough with the critics and the common listener. I generally think the most successfull prog artists are the ones that manages to combine comerciality with being progressive...Artists like yes,genesis and pink floyd did that and they are now hugely more popular than artists like Van der graaf generator and gentle giant. Although vdgg and gg was hugely more original ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Fjuffe/?chartstyle=sideRed - [IMG - http://imagegen.last.fm/sideRed/recenttracks/Fjuffe.gif - |
Posted By: horza
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 08:52
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prog metal will be missionaries of prog and convert the heathens
coheed and cambria,pain of salvation,fates warning,symphony x,shadow gallery,psychotic waltz etc prog on !! ------------- Originally posted by darkshade: Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot. |
Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 08:53
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No they are not commercial enough...that is why they will always be more like underground prog bands if you look 30 years ahead ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Fjuffe/?chartstyle=sideRed - [IMG - http://imagegen.last.fm/sideRed/recenttracks/Fjuffe.gif - |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 08:54
Prog Metal will continue to provide many interesting bands for the next 10 years ... let's meet again then and see if I was right. I'm not saying that other genres won't continue to grow and eventually grow bigger than prog metal.
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Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 08:58
Yep and that is the reason why we remember Yes and genesis much better than van der graaf generator...And currently metal is not commercial enough to be the next prog super genre. Because currently the prog-artists that are most talked about is radiohead and the mars volta not prog metal acts like Pain of salvation and Shadow gallery although those bands are rated as the best in their genre ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Fjuffe/?chartstyle=sideRed - [IMG - http://imagegen.last.fm/sideRed/recenttracks/Fjuffe.gif - |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 09:42
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Metal is commercial as hell BTW: There's not much talk about Radiohead anymore ... the general public has already set their focus on Gorillaz, Coldplay etc. They refuse to make a commercial album, and so they'll be forgotten by the people except for small communities like us. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: goose
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 09:48
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I don't know if that's entirely true about Radiohead... it's been... a year(?) since they released an album, and having been at least fairly popular for over a decade I'm sure they must still have something of a following... I'd be surprised if a new album didn't hit number one, in the UK at least.
edit: Oh, I see! They're recording a new album. Well, I'll wait and see 
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 09:58
We'll see ... and how it compares to the new Tool album. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: eugene
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 10:01
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My great hope is that future of prog is with Taal, After Crying, Inquire, Aside Beside, Kotebel, the likes of 4/3 de trio (on symphonic side), Miriodor, Birdsongs of the mesozoic, Ensemble Nimbus (on avant side), Djam karet, Kopecky and the likes on (art side). If metal is future of prog - this is so unenviable future... ------------- carefulwiththataxe |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 10:05
Can you really imagine that these bands will attract masses of fans like Yes or Genesis did in the 70s? ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: eugene
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 10:17
No, I cannot, frankly. And I am not sure if I really want them to become massively popular. But maybe future of prog is in its elitism??? ------------- carefulwiththataxe |
Posted By: goose
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 10:18
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I think the present of prog is elitism
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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 10:20
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Damn,I hate coming into a topic late,especially when it's about a favorite subject of mine. I don't know if prog metal is THE future of prog,there are so many new bands coming out right now in each genre that are putting their own little spin on things. I do know that prog metal is a very poplular genre of prog(some purists will argue that it is not even a legitimate genre,but...oh well.),but it's not going to go away or die out any time soon,so don't hold your breath waiting for that to happen. -------------  |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 10:21
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^ we already have that elitism ... and I think you're right, it will stay this way. I would be perfectly happy if prog got just a little bit more popular, so that I'd have the chance to see more prog concerts. But I would not want prog to become the next big "thing" ... not if it means that it ends in an "ocean of compromise". No, just little drops of water for me. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: goose
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 10:23
Is that purists of prog, or purists of metal?
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 10:25
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Both. What better proof of progressiveness could there be? ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: eugene
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 10:26
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"As it was in the beginning, Is now, And ever shall be !!!" Is this what you wanna say ??? Maybe you're right then. But not with metal. It is very popular, commercial etc etc. And although I like certain metal bands, and have very warm feelings towards metal in general, as it was simply music of my youth, I do not really consider metal progressive. I would rather agree with those who claim it's completely different genre altogether.
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 10:29
metal in itself isn't progressive, eugene. But are you honestly saying that none of the bands listed as Prog Metal in the archives are prog? ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 10:32
The prog purists who think the sun rises and sets on Yes,Genesis,Gentle Giant,VDGG,ELP,King Crimson,etc. and look down thier nose at everything else. ------------- |
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 10:33
See what I mean????????????? Why can't metal be progressive????? ------------- |
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 10:37
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Progressive:
If that can apply to Rock.....why can't that apply to metal?? ------------- |
Posted By: eugene
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 10:40
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No, I've never said "none of the bands listed as Prog Metal in the archives are prog", have I? But among bands listed as prog-metal here I prefer band less metal and more progressive as opposed to metal with progressive elements such as Circus Maximus etc etc etc - hundreds of this kind of bands are around, DT clones, Symphony X clones, Symphony X itself etc etc etc, and I do not like them at all. And you correctly stated "metal in itself isn't progressive" - this is valid point. ------------- carefulwiththataxe |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 10:54
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^ nevermind eugene, you didn't say that - I just wanted to annoy you. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: Ed_The_Dead
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 11:59
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IMe thinks prog metal is the future of prog, although it will never be as popular as in the 70s... Look at Tool - One of the greatest & most important metalband on earth.... When I remember watching the MTV album charts back in 2002 or 2001.... Lateralus was number 4 in Europe & 5th in the USA.. I wonder what will happen this year... and what bout band like Evergrey? Their DVD was for quite a long time on the 1st place of bestselling DVD back in their homeland... It was in the top 10 in all the Scandinavian lands... I know that Sweden 'n' co are well known for lost of metal heads but still.. never did something like this happen be4... Dream Theater also has a massive following.... And what did Lars Ulrich form Metalica say bout St. Anger ? "i wanted it 2 sound like a Meshuggah album"... And I recently saw quite a lot bout them in the press... Opeth signed 2 Roadrunner was also vital... They are one of the most respected band in the US by now... Prog metal gets far more attention now then in the 90s... That a good sigh, me thinks ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ed_the_dead/?chartstyle=asimpleblue5"> 
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Posted By: horza
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 12:54
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i don't want prog to be elitist - prog metal bands don't contemplate their navels - they just get on with it ------------- Originally posted by darkshade: Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 13:00
Is this what you wanna say ??? Maybe you're right then. But not with rock. It is very popular, commercial etc etc. And although I like certain rock bands, and have very warm feelings towards rock in general, as it was simply music of my youth, I do not really consider rock progressive. I would rather agree with those who claim it's completely different genre altogether. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: eugene
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 16:50
Yes, I think it's funny, do not think it's true though. My feeling is as if I've grown up and apart from metal into more complicated, sophisticated and less noisy kind of music. I like music to be aggressive sometimes, but on some stage I realised that you don't have to be loud to sound aggressive. Anyway, it's my personal and very subjective opinion. ------------- carefulwiththataxe |
Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 20:44
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More than the future I think prog metal is the present of prog... ------------- "You want me to play what, Robert?" 
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Posted By: Kohllapse
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 22:24
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I can't stand "prog" Metal !!!!! ------------- 
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 22:28
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Posted By: FishyMonkey
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 22:41
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Anyone who thinks Devin Townsend isn't an absolute genius is retarded. I would be more than happy leaving the future to him. And PoS...BE says it all. They are more progressive than some bands people love to hail around here.
Has anyone even looked up Devin Townsend's new album? It's one song, about 70 minutes, I believe, called Synchestra. *orgasms* ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/FishyMonkey/?chartstyle=artists"> 
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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 22:51
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Posted By: Bryan
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 23:00
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I think I'll just let these words stand on their own for a second... |
Posted By: Kohllapse
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 23:01
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Posted By: Kohllapse
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 23:15
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Prog Metal - the future of Prog?? ......... Hopefully -------------
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Posted By: Gaston
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 23:24
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Prog is the future of prog, dumbass. -------------  
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Posted By: Hierophant
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 23:45
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Prog metal is more like prog's present
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Posted By: Gabrielpenteado
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 23:51
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the thing about prog metal, is that its a tendency, rather than a genre, you can tell that by the homungous number of metal bands going prog metal(wich in my opinion, has absolutely nothing to do with prog rock, prog metal is basically heavy metal with uneven measures)
so, its up to you if its the future of prog rock. Fot me, itīs the future of Heavy Metal. About Radiohead, sorry to say, but their time is gone. If they stayed on the spotlights for more time, or started experimenting with few songs in each album, they could remained on the midia. The things is that Coldplay stole their spot really quickly(and now Kaine(is that how its written?) its trying to do the same, altough i dont think they are cut for the job). so we might see Radiohead being more of themselves on the OTHER album (i think theyīll try to get their spot back in this next record) |
Posted By: Hierophant
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 23:58
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The only way prog will ever "come back" is if mainstream music "came back" Music in general is in such a sad state right now... its well sad  -------------
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Posted By: Gabrielpenteado
Date Posted: October 18 2005 at 00:10
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yeah, dont mention it
In Brazil weīre having a cover moment right now, the only on TVīs and musical shows are cover bands of ONE determined band, tribute bands i believe you might call it. Altough i like the idea, having it brought the musical box to Brazil , and also think its nice to see someone representing a show that you will never see/want to see again
but the whole thing got out of track, now it seems that thereīs NOTHING new in the music industry, last time this happened we had the new metal "saving" the day, but this time itīs taking a long time maybe people just ran out of new ideas?
and about HAVING a mainstream music, try just turning to MTV once a week, and youīll know how mainstream music is doing. It IS there (Mainly Hip Hop and black music), but itīs been ages since we saw a new face |
Posted By: Hierophant
Date Posted: October 18 2005 at 00:20
I turn on mtv and dont even see them playing any music videos, i turn
on vh1 and now they're not even playing any music videos. Its all about
how much it costs paris hilton to get her hair done or some other BS.  Forget about prog, forgot about good music, forget about bad music, the problem is that music itself isn't the focus anymore. -------------
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Posted By: Gabrielpenteado
Date Posted: October 18 2005 at 00:33
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like any art, there is a rotation for the "spotlight art", in the mid 60,early 70, it was music, a few years back we had he cinema spotlight, right now its a transition period, but i think that the next "art" is gonna be....
FASHION! Believe it or not, it is whatīs growing and getting more attention by the minute So, that mean that music was never the GREAT highlight, and now with easy acess to MP3 and Ipods and stuff, music is gaining a great individuality, people are starting to get away from only mainstream music and start listening to what they like, tough most of the people are still tuned to what they like INSIDE the mainstream music. so donīt bother no oneīs really caring about music right now, cos itīs finally going trough a silent revolution in the way the business is taking however, it may take a whole decade. I canīt see the indidualization of music in a near future |
Posted By: horza
Date Posted: October 18 2005 at 04:54
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maybe we just need to turn our music UP a bit - turn the dial to .... 11 (mine goes up to 11,most only go as high as 10) ------------- Originally posted by darkshade: Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot. |
Posted By: Marc Baum
Date Posted: October 18 2005 at 12:30
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prog goes metal at the moment, but it's a matter of time to take the traditional change to get back. ------------- "All you need to do is sit back, and acquire the taste." - GENTLE GIANT |
Posted By: annt
Date Posted: October 18 2005 at 12:47
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Well, Opeth have earned much praise from critics and succeeded on
charts with a theme album of mostly 10-minute songs, while being very
unique, challenging and touching and my favourite band.
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Posted By: flying teapot
Date Posted: October 20 2005 at 18:26
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I am very impressed with this band, they have a lot of arabic imfluences like spanish prog, they have a very unique sound. Also of note are AVENGED SEVENFOLD they are not as prog although I can really hear influences from Queen, to Boston, to other Prog harmonic Guitar interplay between the two lead guitarists. and of course Mars Volta, Coheed and Cambria |
Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: October 20 2005 at 19:26
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System of a Down?
Excuse me while I go hang myself............................. |
Posted By: Kohllapse
Date Posted: October 20 2005 at 19:43
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Posted By: magog
Date Posted: October 21 2005 at 04:13
| Prog metal (if it existed) it's prog death |
Posted By: stinkfist
Date Posted: October 21 2005 at 05:23
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will someone explain how it would be the death of metal
------------- how can this mean anything to me? when i really dont feel a thing at all |
Posted By: crazycloud
Date Posted: October 21 2005 at 10:16
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it's all about the HAGGARD !!!!!!!!!!!!! ------------- And it's high time Cymbaline It's high time |
Posted By: Gronostay
Date Posted: October 21 2005 at 10:22
I don't think death metal could be very prog. For example Meschuggah isn't very prog. I thin metal could be prog like all other rock genres |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: October 21 2005 at 10:49
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Just my opinion and I`m probably the only one saying it ..but .. I believe Rush invented prog metal and most of the better prog metal bands follow in the tradition of what rush set out to do in the 70`s and did so well .. the Prog metal bands to look out for today are .. Shadow Gallery .. Enchant .. Ice Age (first two cd`s) .. Threshold .. Redemption .. Symphony X .. Dream Theater .. Echolyn .. Tiles
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Posted By: horza
Date Posted: October 21 2005 at 10:55
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^i agree - the early Rush albums were pretty much prog metal - plenty of prog metal around today - enough for everyone - coheed and cambria keep up the Rush connection ------------- Originally posted by darkshade: Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: October 21 2005 at 11:01
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Coheed and Cambria deny any Rush influences ... ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: Logos
Date Posted: October 21 2005 at 11:02
Yeah, that's cool because you obviously don't know good music |
Posted By: horza
Date Posted: October 21 2005 at 11:02
thats for US to decide  ------------- Originally posted by darkshade: Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: October 21 2005 at 11:03
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^ ok, then I decide (for myself) that their songwriting hasn't got much in common with anything Rush have done. The only similarity are the voices of the singers. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: horza
Date Posted: October 21 2005 at 11:11
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maybe the vocal similarity IS the connection i referred to stop being so analytical ------------- Originally posted by darkshade: Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: October 21 2005 at 11:13
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Ok, I'll stop. I even say that they're both Art Rock (whatever that means). ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: horza
Date Posted: October 21 2005 at 11:16
Art Rock sounds fine to me - some of their tracks pretty metal to me - so long C & C are on PA ------------- Originally posted by darkshade: Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot. |
Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: October 21 2005 at 11:17
must not have a big music selection in Finland |
Posted By: goose
Date Posted: October 21 2005 at 11:21
| You'd be surprised... |
Posted By: horza
Date Posted: October 21 2005 at 11:22
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Its all about opinion - IMO prog metal rocks
Finland and the USA rock as well ------------- Originally posted by darkshade: Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: October 21 2005 at 11:25
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Seriously, SoaD are not prog. Inventive, thoughtful, ambitious, mature, clever ... but not prog. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: goose
Date Posted: October 21 2005 at 11:26
| I never seem to hear all that much from the US. There's a fair amount of death metal, I guess. |
Posted By: Logos
Date Posted: October 21 2005 at 12:19
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Agreed. Certainly progressive though. |