A Suite vs. A Medley
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Topic: A Suite vs. A Medley
Posted By: Frets N Worries
Subject: A Suite vs. A Medley
Date Posted: September 23 2023 at 19:20
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I've been doing a but of research, and I'm curious, how are esch of these defined. Here are the definitions. A suite, in Western classical music and jazz, is an ordered set of instrumental or orchestral/concert band pieces. It originated in the late 14th century as a pairing of dance tunes and grew in scope to comprise up to five dances, sometimes with a prelude, by the early 17th century. The separate movements were often thematically and tonally linked. In music, a medley is a piece composed from parts of existing pieces played one after another, sometimes overlapping Does this mean several famous suites (prog or not) are actually medleys? ------------- The Wheel of Time Turns, and Ages come and pass. What was, what will be, and what is, may yet fall under the shadow. Let the Dragon ride again on the winds of time... |
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: September 23 2023 at 19:33
No-- But if you were ever at a Rush show and they started doing the 'Book ll:Hemispheres' suite and suddenly 80 seconds into it they're on to 'Circumstances' followed briskly by a severely edited 'The Trees' and you were like "Hey what the bloody heck happened?" That's a medley. ------------- "Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy |
Frets N Worries wrote:Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: September 23 2023 at 19:40
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^ Like this: ------------- No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man. |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: September 24 2023 at 03:02
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Kansas - Magnum Opus . That one is a medley because it was bits of music that they couldn't use elsewhere so rather than throw out they stithce it together. Its pretty horrible and the main reason I struggle to take that album seriously. Mike Oldfield - Tubular Bells. Similarly to the above this has never been my favourite work by him although some of the bits are way more inspired! ELP , well this is tricky! Tarkus has been described as a concerto. Not really a suite at all and hardly a medley. Karn Evil 9 on the other hand is a true suite in classical terms. Of the most successful prog bands ELP and Yes were more in touch with classical music and truer to the idea of symphonic prog. Genesis were more art rock IMO.
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: September 24 2023 at 07:00
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In simplest terms a medley is a combination of short or abbreviated songs originally presented separately and not necessarily thematic (a medley of a band's greatest hits, for instance). A suite is a series of songs composed on an interrelated theme. Side 2 of the Beatles Abbey Road is considered a medley, where the songs flow one into the other, are not really related to one another, and are bits and pieces of songs Lennon and McCartney were developing separately in studio. "Baker St. Muse" on Jethro Tull's Minstrel in the Gallery is considered a suite in that the songs are interrelated (concerning the aforementioned street in London), and is bookended by the main theme. ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |