Nick Mason
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Topic: Nick Mason
Posted By: Phil
Subject: Nick Mason
Date Posted: October 15 2005 at 17:28
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I know he's not maybe not the "best" drummer in terms of speed, blinding solo's, etc but I think Nick Mason is the ONLY drummer for the 'Floyd and part of their unique sound - can you imagine "Shine on" with Carl Palmer or Billy Cobham playing on it at 200mph? I just think he doesn't get the appreciation he deserves - OK maybe he isn't the greatest drummer but I think his contribution to Pink Floyd is under-valued. Plus, he produced one of the (IMHO) great albums - Robert Wyatt's Rock Bottom. And from what I've seen of him in interviews etc he comes across as a nice chap!
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Posted By: horza
Date Posted: October 15 2005 at 17:36
yeah he'll do for me too,i want him and gilmour and wright,not some super precise automatons that waters hires  ------------- Originally posted by darkshade: Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot. |
Posted By: samhob
Date Posted: October 15 2005 at 17:40
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I Agree... totally.. |
Posted By: ShW1
Date Posted: October 15 2005 at 18:09
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Agree. He is original, unique drummer. For instance: Piper at the gates of dawn - flaming. He played also at Steve Hiledge "green" album. |
Posted By: gok22us
Date Posted: October 15 2005 at 18:11
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thats one thing that is really interesting about Pink Floyd.... the members of that band complement each other perfectly. None of the guys were the most talented at their instruments (or at least they never showed it) but they never held each other back. Even though the drums aren't doing much, the bass is simple, the keyboards aren't spewing a million notes a measure, it still works so well. If you tried to stick Nick Mason in King Crimson, or Rick Wright in Genesis, the two guys would look awful, and hold back the rest of the people in the band. For some reason, the lack of insane instrumentation in Floyd, isn't a turnoff at all. Great band. |
Posted By: horza
Date Posted: October 15 2005 at 18:23
^ i agree  ------------- Originally posted by darkshade: Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot. |
Posted By: laplace
Date Posted: October 15 2005 at 18:52
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I would'n want anyone else in Floyd.. they're not up there with my
favourites, but Wish You Were Here just wouldn't have the sincerity,
humour and warmth that it does if he was replaced by a more competent,
adventurous drummer.. I think space rock in general is better served by tight bands than by virtuosity.. Eloy's my favourite of the lot and their jams are usually very democratic and cohesive. |
Posted By: Juhqli
Date Posted: October 15 2005 at 18:57
Pink Floyd was forced to compensate it's lack of technical capacity with creativeness which was good from my point of view |
Posted By: An old fart
Date Posted: October 15 2005 at 19:03
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Hello everyone! This is my first post. Everyone here seems to agree about this subject, me too. Nick Mason is good enough drummer for Floyd. Most of the songs by them are in moderate or even slow tempo and the time signatures aren't demanding either (with maybe a couple of exceptions in Money and some parts of Shine on...), so there's really no need for a neil peart or bill bruford in Pink Floyd. The feeling is everything. That's what makes David Gilmour and Rick Wright so special too, a sense of passion and melody. Don't get me wrong, I also love the more complex progressive rock, a la Genesis, Jethro Tull, Rush and Yes, but Pink Floyd is significantly different from them in style (and all of them different from each other as well, but that's another story). Nick Mason handles his post perfectly in Floyd's context, in my opinion. By the way, has anyone of you read his book about Floyd? Do you recommend it? ------------- "Make tea, not love" |
Posted By: sonic wizard
Date Posted: October 15 2005 at 19:12
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I have his book, I think it is very well written. If you know every little detail of the Pink Floyd story you probably won't find much new in it, but for the rest of us its great. ------------- Arguing on the internet is a lot like the special olympics - even if you win, you're still retarded. |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: October 15 2005 at 19:14
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Well, somebody has to disagree, Nick Mason is a good drummer, don't deny this, but IMO he isn't even close to the best ones, he has good speed but not extreme, has excellent work with the bass drum and metals but is bellow the average with the snares. Take for example Graham Broad from the Waters staff on In the Flesh Live, he sounds exactly as Nick Mason but with the advantage of not needing a second percusionist as Nick Mason needs on Pulse or The Delicate Sound of Thunder. Iván
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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: October 15 2005 at 19:36
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Yes, he is the drummer of PF, and I can hardly imagine someone else replacing him. And he was very amazing and fast on Live At Pompeii
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: October 15 2005 at 23:11
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Rick Wright was the best musician in Floyd, with Gilmour at a close second. But Mason, though he fit the band perfectly, did nothing to make his drumwork unique, unless you count the lack of interesting drumwork "unique" (disreguarding "A Saucerful of Secrets, which has a very nice beat). ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: Lucifer_Sam
Date Posted: October 16 2005 at 01:22
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I dont agree with stonebeard. I believe that Dave Glimour is a greater musician, and added more to the band than rick wright did. Look at the impact he made when Gilmour started directing things after Barret left. We saw the full flourish of Pink Floyd in Meddle, DArk Side and Wish you were here under Gilmours influence on guitar. Glimours solos are some of the greatest of all time, and he never overdoes it. sure Rick wright had his moments, but Gilmour was definately a more accomplished musician and altered the floyd sound more than wright ever did. ------------- And when the fear grows, the bad blood slows and turns to stone |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: October 16 2005 at 01:30
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You're almost right. After Barrett left (or was more or less kicked out), it was Roger who took hold of the reigns and steered Floyd into the direction that led to all those great albums. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Lucifer_Sam wrote:Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: October 16 2005 at 01:55
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Nick Mason = one
Deff. underrated. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
dudePosted By: R o V e R
Date Posted: October 16 2005 at 02:22
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Nick mason is great drummer; I don’t care about speed or whatever, I love his simplicity on percussion, right note at the right time.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: October 16 2005 at 03:56
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Dear Rover, i recently read your post on nick mason, and could not contain my utter disgust and rage concerning your thoughts on nick mason. to put it bluntly mr rover, you are an incompetent fool and should be thrown out of this forum simply because of your idiocy. your sincerely, Ben Retter |
Posted By: R o V e R
Date Posted: October 16 2005 at 04:38
thanks |
Posted By: Tony Fisher
Date Posted: October 16 2005 at 04:56
You need to work further on your use of capitals (I not i, names must start with a capital and so must sentences). You is not spelt u. Yours has an "s" on the end. However, for a 7 year old, this is a very good attempt. Well done, Ben. Keep trying! |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: October 16 2005 at 05:13
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[/QUOTE] You need to work further on your use of capitals (I not i, names must start with a capital and so must sentences). You is not spelt u. Yours has an "s" on the end. However, for a 7 year old, this is a very good attempt. Well done, Ben. Keep trying! [/QUOTE] Mr Fisher, no doubt we have met before, and i am saddened and disapointed that it has come to this petty level. Tony, if u will, you are an incompetent halfwit, and shoudl be tossed into the sea along with all your little prog brethren. I sincerely hope that we do not meet in our day to day lives as i will be forced to hurl abuse and insults in your general direction and i will have no other choice but to give your cat a royal boot. yours sincerely, Ben Retter |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: October 16 2005 at 05:18
Your copying and pasting is pathetic. Come and hurl something in my general direction ... I'll throw up at you in return. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to: 
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: October 16 2005 at 05:24
you are hideous....... |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: October 16 2005 at 05:25
Oops ... I threw up all over you ... sorry. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: October 16 2005 at 05:28
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just furthering my point, that is. |
Posted By: cobb
Date Posted: October 16 2005 at 05:28
| This influx of trolls must be from DDD. We shouldn't have let that first guy in. He has probably sent all his trolls over here to bring the discussion levels down to DDD's standard. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: October 16 2005 at 05:29
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What's DDD? ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: October 16 2005 at 05:30
| yep theyr the trolls from DDD are coming in as we speak!!! HAHAHAHAAH sucked in fools! |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: October 16 2005 at 05:36
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Who's the fool? Don't think for a minute that you fooled me ... I didn't waste any time while responding to your "posts", I'm listening to good music right now. I'm having a good laugh at your efforts here ... making up posts, creating additional accounts etc. ... man, get a life! ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: October 16 2005 at 05:41
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look at your little pic thing, your a nerd....please sir, get a lfie yourself, your a level 4 nerd, thats pretty woeful...
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: October 16 2005 at 05:48
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Look out for the 5th level later this day ... ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: October 16 2005 at 05:51
| i hope youve made your mother proud... |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: October 16 2005 at 05:53
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Not by listening to prog ... she's more like the woman from Joe's Garage (the song), if you know what I mean. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: October 16 2005 at 06:23
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spelling mistake |
Posted By: Abstrakt
Date Posted: October 16 2005 at 07:31
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if you hate pink floyd, why are you posting at this topic? to show that? we know that just by looking at your nickname |
Posted By: BePinkTheater
Date Posted: October 16 2005 at 11:10
perfectly said Although to me, gilmour' style makes him one of my all time favourite guitarist, but i still get the point Gilmour in DT would be halarious ------------- I can strangle a canary in a tin can and it would be really original, but that wouldn't save it from sounding like utter sh*t. -Stone Beard |
Posted By: BePinkTheater
Date Posted: October 16 2005 at 11:13
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For some reason i dont think he is a troll. I think he's a senior member that we all know and love thats posing as a troll cause its funny. I dont think anyone is that bad...( hope...) ------------- I can strangle a canary in a tin can and it would be really original, but that wouldn't save it from sounding like utter sh*t. -Stone Beard |
Posted By: Plan Nine
Date Posted: October 16 2005 at 11:59
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His sister is a teacher at our school.. ------------- www.plan9.cjb.net |
Posted By: horza
Date Posted: October 16 2005 at 14:09
i'm relatively new to forums of any kind and i've never experienced this phenomenon, the 'troll' - i looked it up in wikipedia and have to surmise that 'trolls' further my belief that lunatic asylums should restrict their access to the internet more stringently  ------------- Originally posted by darkshade: Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot. |
Posted By: Rust
Date Posted: October 16 2005 at 16:50
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Nick does a great job live, but for some reason falls short on albums. He does fit the band very well and knows his limits technically. His forte was in the bass drum and tom toms. About Rick, I believe he was the best player in the band and his song writing was at times better than Roger's. He had the best melodies, and is responsible for writing all the brilliant "scary" sections in thier songs like, Echoes, Atom Heart Mother, and Saucerful of secrets. He alone wrote the crescendo peices in Echoes and Celestial Voices ( the end of Saucerful). He is also responsible for the beautiful balads like Us and Them, the heart filled ending of SOYCD, parts 8 and 9 I believe, and The Great Gig. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: October 16 2005 at 21:50
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f**k you ... |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 00:22
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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 00:26
I second that All you trolls do is further prove that your DDD is bullsh*t ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ocellatedgod" rel="nofollow - last.fm |
Posted By: Bryan
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 00:34
| I've taken the liberty of ejecting our troll friend. If you guys want to continue this discussion then please feel free. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 00:35
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 00:48
i'm sorry i thought it was that asshole pink floyd=bad
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Posted By: cobb
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 01:24
| What was this thread about again? |
Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 01:25
It was him. Now he got kicked out, and his name changed to "guests" ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ocellatedgod" rel="nofollow - last.fm |
Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 01:28
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I see loverboy also in peril,with his duck you reply...
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 02:00
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Posted By: BiGi
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 03:48
That proves once again that making good music is not a mere excercise in technicality. I personally prefer Rick Wright to Rick Wakeman or Keith Emerson: he's not a virtuoso, but he is able to set the mood and the ambience, which the other two often fail to do. ------------- A flower? 
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Posted By: Rochacrimson
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 05:35
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Nick Mason for me ,he was one of greta drummers in 70's with the double pedal Ludwig drums,in Live in Pompeii and Boston Gardens 75,he is one of gods with a stronger kick drum. Years of Mason with his moustache,LoL! ------------- Pedro Rocha |
Posted By: Jeremy Bender
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 08:49
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Nick Mason was a good drummer. To feel a song is IMO more important than technical skills. The less-is-more principle of Mason is not so easy as most people think it is. Bravo Nick Bill Bruford is maybe the best example of a drummer with great technical skills combined with a perfect sense for feel. |
Posted By: Ben2112
Date Posted: October 23 2005 at 21:54
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Late to this thread but I agree with its gist. Nick's drumming, while not technically impressive, was big, bold, and fit the music perfectly.
His bread and butter is that big drum intro lick he plays (perhaps overplays) on many many Floyd songs, with some slight variations, and usually comes right before the vocals kick in after an extended instrumental part: Bump...bump...badudduhbumpaduh. Think Echoes, Time, Sheep, and many other Floyd classics. |
Posted By: Syntharachnid
Date Posted: October 23 2005 at 22:12
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I know the one! Hey, you know what my theory is about why Floyd sounded better at Live 8 than on P.U.L.S.E? 'Cause Nick was in charge of the drumming. And sorry Ivan, I just can't agree that Graham Broad sounds better. He doesn't sound anything like Nick, and PF doesn't work the same way without him. (Likewise any other member) ------------- 
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Posted By: anael
Date Posted: October 23 2005 at 22:23
WHAT THE HELL ARE U TALKIN' ABOUT TONY? ------------- 
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Posted By: The Wizard
Date Posted: October 23 2005 at 22:28
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He has a very orchestral sound, and he drums as he were the percussionist in an orchestra. -------------  
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