Interactive Playlist: Chamber Rock
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Topic: Interactive Playlist: Chamber Rock
Posted By: mathman0806
Subject: Interactive Playlist: Chamber Rock
Date Posted: June 10 2023 at 09:18
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Inspired by the ongoing series of Interactive Polls and https://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=130880&KW=chamber+rock&PN=1" rel="nofollow - Negoba’s thread about chamber rock , I want to create a YouTube playlist of chamber rock music. My goal is to create a solid representation of chamber rock from a wide range of contributions. So, I am asking forum members to make suggestions for this playlist. Here are some guidelines for suggesting a piece. Please suggest one piece per post and post a YouTube video of the piece or a link to the video. (Note that you should include the artist and title of the piece separate from the video because permissions can be funny between countries, and I may need to find one playable for me. Also, there are limitations for using YouTube as not every piece you might want to suggest is available, but I think it is the best option for this.) The piece or artist can be relatively known or unknown and on or off ProgArchives. Artists can be suggested more than once, and you can make more than one suggestion, just in separate posts and maybe spread out to give others an opportunity to suggest. Optionally, you can say something about why you made your selection. As I am learning about this form of music, I am interested in knowing what qualities of the piece lead to your selection. I will construct the playlist in the order of suggestions. I am using the poll format to keep track of the suggestions, which I will add to a YouTube playlist that appears at the end of this opening post. You can vote on favorites if you like but voting is optional. I also welcome discussion and comments on people’s selections. The Playlist: |
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Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: June 10 2023 at 09:19
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I’ll start the playlist with this intense but exhilarating track by Far Corner from the 2018 album Risk. One of my favorite, if not favorite, albums from 2018. This was the first track I had heard from the album and it immediately drew me in with the combination of traditional instrumentation found in chamber music with rock instrumentation. Far Corner - Fork |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: June 10 2023 at 10:24
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Nice! As I brought Die anarchistische Abendunterhaltung forward in the other thread, let's present them here too: Die anarchistische Abendunterhaltung (DAAU) - Delete Alt and Undo: ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: Mirakaze
Date Posted: June 10 2023 at 16:59
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The Dutch chamber ensemble Fuse isn't in ProgArchives and I'm not entirely sure if they should be but they definitely more attention. They have some great covers of tunes by Frank Zappa, Dave Brubeck and György Ligeti, but I'm nominating a song that I believe was written specifically for them: Fuse - Mister Black ------------- https://mirasnelder.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow - Freelance composer, accepting commissions | https://mirasnelder.bandcamp.com/album/altered-acuity" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp page |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: June 10 2023 at 17:09
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I think I'm gonna love this series, hope you don't mind if I do one or two as well. I adore Art Zoyd, and various music from various of the early albums I could mention, but this is a particular favourite of mine. This is the title track from Art Zoyd's Génération Sans Futur. |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: June 11 2023 at 06:31
| Great stuff! Thanks for the contributions! |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: June 11 2023 at 06:37
| Hey Greg, I wouldn't mind at all. |
Posted By: Hiram
Date Posted: June 11 2023 at 06:40
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Metamorphosis - Under the Sun A Czech band included in the 'Archives. Don't confuse the with other Metamorphoses out there. I actually wanted to link the track "Marathon" from their s/t debut album but couldn't find it from youtube. Nothing wrong with this track though. Loving everything listen in the thread so far and will be keeping an eye on this.
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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: June 11 2023 at 21:02
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I would like to bring the lovely 5/4, a live recording from Ocean Sounds studio, by Russian artists iamthemorning. ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: June 12 2023 at 03:33
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North Sea Radio Orchestra - Berliner Luft
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Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: June 12 2023 at 06:45
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Excellent! Thanks Nickie and Christian! YouTube recommended and I accidentally added this to the playlist. I decided to keep it. Cheer-Accident - Immanence |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: June 12 2023 at 12:34
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Here's another suggestion from me, and I very nearly made this my first suggestion. Aranis - Mythra (off 2007's Aranis II) |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: June 12 2023 at 13:01
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This is looking and sounding to be a fantastic playlist. Keep 'em coming! ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: June 12 2023 at 13:15
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And the Penguin Cafe Orchestra should not be absent, of course... The debut of their debut. Penguin Cafe Orchestra - Penguin Cafe Single: ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: June 15 2023 at 23:35
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France Gall: Poupée de cire, poupée de son |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: June 16 2023 at 07:09
| Thanks Mila! Speaking only for myself as a non-European, I am not all familiar with this. And I actually didn't know any Serge Gainsbourg until Greg (Logan) posted a track in an Interactive Poll. Fun to hear new to me music. |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: June 16 2023 at 07:55
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Hi, Terje Rypdal/David Darling --- EOS ... Aside from the first cut, which I think it basically telling you to get out if you don't have an ear, the rest of this is just the two of them in a small room/chamber doing some unbelievable stuff ... to me, the guitar in many moments is what Hendrix would do if he had ever grown older. Sadly, not many folks will listen to it, because it is ECM ... and the far out experiments in music they did, specially in those early days! We just don't have the ears for it, I don't think. ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: June 16 2023 at 15:36
I know that you are open to new things and I appreciate that very much! But I'm actually not quite sure what kind of music we're talking about here. I only know 'chamber or baroque pop' as a music genre designation. The definition is rather loose and includes all kind of popular music combined with orchestral musical instruments and vocal harmonies. Do you want to emphasise with the term 'chamber rock' that it is about music that is primarily based on rock? Nowadays 'chamber pop' appears esp. in the context with both, indie pop and indie rock music. The term is also used in the field of electronic music such as ambient etc. I'm familiar with chamber pop from the 20th century, esp from the 60s and the 90s but I would rather bring something contemporary.- The question obviously comes from someone less familiar with the prog universe. lol
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mathman0806 wrote:Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: June 16 2023 at 16:04
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@Mila. Good point. I would say that the Serge Gainsbourg composition is chamber or even orchestral pop. Part of this playlist/poll creation was motivated by the Teach Me About Chamber Rock thread linked in the original post. I am interested in learning more and part is in understanding a good definition. I asked ChatGPT for examples and posted its response in the other thread. I asked again just now and got a different set of examples. It's still learning. Here's the response I got, which includes an answer to me also asking for characteristics.
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Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: June 16 2023 at 16:21
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With Juneteenth coming up here in the U.S., I am suggesting a track from an album by DJ Spooky and the Kronos Quartet. The album is the soundtrack to a multimedia project called Rebirth of a Nation. This is a reimagining/remix of W.D. Griffiths classic and racist film Birth of a Nation. For those outside of the U.S., Juneteenth is a holiday commemorating the emancipation of African American slaves. Birth of a Nation was about the post-American Civil War period called the Restoration and glorifies the rise of the Ku Klux Klan. DJ Spooky with Kronos Quartet - Gus, Elias, Silas, and the Klan Edit: I replaced the track I posted withe one I was looking for initially because it didn't turn up on my first search on YouTube. |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: June 17 2023 at 11:32
Hi Pedro, Thanks for the suggestion. I was able to stream the album on my Amazon account and enjoyed the lyrical interplay between the two musicians. I may lean toward classifying this as chamber jazz. I know you don't do the video post thing, so I have a selected a track for the playlist. The album itself isn't on YouTube but various tracks are available from a David Darling compilation album. Serje Rypdal & David Darling - Bedtime Story I also saw a review video for the album on YouTube and the reviewer, on the first track, said (and I am paraphrasing) that it was something you might hear at music store from someone trying out and showing off on a new electric guitar. I thought that was funny. He loved the rest of the album.
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Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: June 18 2023 at 04:21
Thanks for all the info, George! I couldn't answer you right away. Yes, as I already suspected earlier, this poll is basically about rock based chamber music, although that is not always clearly recognisable in the tracks proposed so far, also with regard to the rock music style that normally is characteristic of chamber pop/rock. If I can, I will suggest something else. Could you please delete the France Gall video, since her song doesn't fit the theme really. |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: June 18 2023 at 05:28
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The discussion, and looking around for other stuff, make me aware that I don't really know either what is chamber rock and what isn't. The 2022 Aquaserge album "The Possibility of a New Work for Aquaserge" is as chamber rock as it gets in my book (actually the tracks make clear reference to and take strong inspiration from leading modern composers), but I've never seen this called or tagged as chamber anything. Well what do I know? You can put this in the playlist of you think it fits. Aquaserge - 1768 deg.C (A Edgar Varese) |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: June 18 2023 at 05:33
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Then, some artists I have in mind may not be rock enough, if chamber without a doubt. For example the gorgeous Five-Storey Ensemble. Here is Not That City. Strawinsky would be proud! |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: June 18 2023 at 07:42
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@Christian, the Aquaserge track doesn't play for me. Is this it and does this version play for you? |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: June 18 2023 at 07:50
| @Mila, the rock aspect is hard to define. And in part, was why I decided to do an interactive playlist/poll. Some of what has been suggested lie more toward modern chamber music. Like Christian, I am not entirely sure of what is or is not chamber rock. There was good discussion in the other thread and examples stated that could or could not be, but I wanted to encourage posting of tracks so we could listen and decide or not. |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: June 18 2023 at 08:07
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@George: That version doesn't play for me. It may well be it but I can't tell. |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: June 19 2023 at 06:03
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American indie rockers Grizzly Bear draw influcences, among others, from the Beach Boys who defined chamber pop/rock back in the 1960s. Their influence is clearly recognizable in the chosen track, in others maybe less. Grizzly Bear opened for Radiohead on their 2008 North American tour btw. and Johnny Greenwood was quite taken by them at the time. Grizzly Bear: Two Weeks (Album: Veckatimest, 2009) Even though these British newcomers are now widely known I want to bring them here because their sophomore album is one of my favourite releases of 2022. Besides this is about a more or less representative playlist, if I have understood correctly, also I have noticed several bands in the line-up that we know already from previous IA-polls. :P Black Country, New Road: Chaos Space Marine (Album: Ants from Up There, 2022) |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: June 19 2023 at 06:58
Hi, Absolutely lovely ... I have never, EVER, looked at EOS or even this, as a "jazz" or "this or that" album. To my ear it is simply impossible, if we just close out eyes and follow the flow of the music ... it has less to do with what kind it is, than it does with its own desire to continue the feeling and the flow. This, could, have been done 100, 200 years ago, and probably was but never "recorded" (in those days in notes) so we could hear the interplay and expression, and we know that existed, when there was so much going on with piano and voice, and other combinations. For me, and it is a most important feeling, the idea of "chamber rock" is fine, as long as we know what "chamber" meant, but the issue I found here is ... because the term "rock" was used, that the idea of it being actually like "chamber music of the old days, was not the idea or what was meant at all! There is so much great music out there, that is better judged without a supposed connection to this or that ... which more often than not hurts the artist ... Rypdal for me, is not about "jazz" as much as he is about "classical" (not to mention the incredible number of classical works), even though to our ears, there maybe some jazz musings, which I would think that even Terje might not consider them jazz, by just saying ... it's how the notes come out! Davis Darling, as well, is not exactly known for being a jazz person either, and his early days, with Carlos Nakai (one album specially had DD all over it and made it better) even showed that trying to put a stamp on a player was not the right thing. But then, I had stopped putting a stamp on players and their music by the time "progressive music" came around ... I had already heard too many things, and different things by the same person/composer, to ever consider that people were stuck in a time warp, like we put musicians in!  ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: June 19 2023 at 15:54
It took a bit of manipulation, but I think I added both videos to the playlist so it will be there for people who can't see one.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: June 21 2023 at 11:43
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A third from me: Rational Diet - Dear Kontrabandist (off this Belarus ensemble's At Work from 2008). |
Posted By: Octopus II
Date Posted: June 21 2023 at 12:45
| Penguin Cafe Orchestra |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: June 21 2023 at 13:14
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Pikapika Teart - Moonberry Julverne - Coulonneux - Le fils du Roy est Névrosé ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: June 21 2023 at 14:54
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Thanks Greg and Ian for the new suggestions! They have been added to the playlist. I'll update the poll list later. Six slots left! |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: June 22 2023 at 07:24
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George, I was actually waiting for you to bring forward Orchestre Tout Puissant Marcel Duchamp, because it was you who introduced me to this wonderful group in one of the interactive polls. I bought their - fantastic - latest album on vinyl in the mean time. But I'm not waiting anymore, I'm too impatient... ;) Orchestre Tout Puissant Marcel Duchamp - Be Patient: ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: June 22 2023 at 10:13
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And here is an absolute favourite of mine, it's long and so I did not mention it before. This was from the second post 80s prog albums that I fell for (recorded in 1989 and 1990) and was my favourite album for some time. I could do shorter U Totem tracks and one which might have a purer or more typical chamber sound, but I adore this. U Totem - Vagabonds Home (off the self-titled 1990 album of this Los Angeles based band) Of course if people decide not to listen to the whole thing or at all, that's on them. |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: June 22 2023 at 10:16
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This looks all very promising... some really great things I already know and quite a bit I don't know yet. Need to find some listening time. Good project! |
Posted By: Hiram
Date Posted: June 22 2023 at 11:05
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Alamaailman Vasarat - Lentävä mato I could've posted almost any one of their tracks, so this is a more or less random selection.
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Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: June 22 2023 at 14:25
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Here's another one from me, an Italian band "on behalf" of Lorenzo who's not around, so to speak. Calibro 35, are an instrumental four member rock outfit from Milan that blends several musical styles whereby they collaborate with numerous other musicians. They have written music for quite a few films. I guess some of you are alrady familiar with the band but I think they fit in well with our playlist, although I belive that a lot that has been suggested here so far is not chamber pop/rock in the real sense incl. this proposal of mine, but rather an interpretation of it by prog fans. :P Calibro 35: Agogica (Album: Decade, 2018) |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: June 22 2023 at 14:44
Kees, your link doesn't work for me here. Is it this one? |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: June 22 2023 at 14:52
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^ Don't know, because yours' is not working for me. I guess there are not that many versions around, so if it clocks at 5'46" it should be alright. ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: June 22 2023 at 15:02
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^ Yes, then it is probably the right one, I guess (Album: We're OK. But We're Lost Anyway, 2021). |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: June 23 2023 at 03:18
Haha! Thanks Kees! I agree, fantastic album. I'm glad you suggested it.  @Mila, the video you posted is unavailable to me too, but I was able to add it to the playlist. When I view the "hidden" videos in the playlist, the preview pictures and times are the same as the ones available to me. So, both for OTPMD and Aquaserge, there are two videos in the playlist of the same tracks, so hopefully everyone can get at least one to play.
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Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: June 23 2023 at 03:22
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This is really coming together well. I haven't been able to listen to every selection in full but have enjoyed the ones I have heard. Thanks to everyone's contributions so far. |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: June 23 2023 at 03:49
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I'll add one more. In the original "Teach Me About Chamber Rock" thread, I had first suggested two albums. One was Risk by Far Corner, from which the first track comes from. I'll almost close with a track from the second album, Howl by Rêve Général. Rêve Général - 5/4 |
Posted By: Mirakaze
Date Posted: June 23 2023 at 04:01
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Then for the final spot I nominate this Schoenbergian gem: Yugen - Serial(ist) Killer ------------- https://mirasnelder.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow - Freelance composer, accepting commissions | https://mirasnelder.bandcamp.com/album/altered-acuity" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp page |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: June 23 2023 at 04:12
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Nice! Thanks Mira! Well, that concludes the playlist. Please take a listen if you are interested. Voting and commenting are optional, but comments are welcome. The playlist is in the first post. Also added here with link. https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-zzvl_w6Fx4McyhX97LkyNRZ74Mwajke" rel="nofollow - https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-zzvl_w6Fx4McyhX97LkyNRZ74Mwajke |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: June 23 2023 at 09:53
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^ Thanks! This will probably give a lot of listening pleasure, with a couple of new discoveries for me... ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: June 24 2023 at 14:31
There is a considerable amount of music here that I have been very into. There is one than stands above the others when it comes to my current tastes, and that is Orchestre Tout Puissant Marcel Duchamp's "Be Patient". I adore this.  I might give more votes later, but I also will give votes to Aquaserge's 1768°C (A Edgar Varèse) Metamorphosis' Under the Sun and Fuse's Mister Black. This was another great and successful poll. |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: June 24 2023 at 19:50
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Lots of upbeat music here, I tend to go for the darker pieces. Obviously everyone brought very accomplished musicians here, no matter what the compositions. Two Weeks had vocals that reminded me of The Beach Boys, very sunny stuff indeed. I have to say that I love Pikapika TeArt, I have that recording and their other release as well (thanks to Ian for the introduction). But I vote for what is new to me. That all being said, here are some short takes and my voting decisions for this round. Thank you for bringing the subject, George, and to everyone who brought forth so many wonderful pieces of music to enjoy. 1. Orchestre Tout Puissant Marcel Duchamp “Be Patient” Deep, dark celli begin the piece, bidding us to exercise patience, as it very slowly builds. The textures become more complex and electric bass, guitar and drums enter, with some discordance, and a female vocal. Deliciously ominous. 2. Julverne “Le fils du Roy est Névrosé” This is superb chamber music, soaring, with plenty of complexity and verve, even a hint of whimsy. A bit melancholic, as well, which always wins my vote. Piano, strings and flute comprise the instrumentation. 3. Terje Rypdal & David Darling “Bedtime Story” Appropriately dreamy cello, with some effected electric guitar emerging 2/3rds in. Very simple piece, but perfectly executed. The music is evocative and calming, as the title suggests, but I think I'd be asking for just one more story after this one was done. Honorable Mentions Aranis “Mythra” Pretty acoustic guitar leads the piece, with synths coming in, evoking twinkling lights. Strings echo the twinkling, and there is a crescendo as it all kicks in, full force. Staccato strings and piano pick up and then drop to just strings and back again. Lots of tension and release to this piece. Five-Storey Ensemble “Here is Not That City” Sort of a march or bolero with a wide variety of instruments including bassoon and accordion. Evocative of cityscapes, with moments of introspection amongst the hustle and bustle. Note that I do know of the artist(s), but had not heard this piece. Rêve Général “5/4 (Live)” Funny, two pieces entitled “5/4,” in the poll. This is a very different 5/4, combining electric instruments with a lot of strings. It’s quite the mover, a sense of urgency to the piece as it moves right along. ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: June 25 2023 at 08:18
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Thanks for voting/commenting Greg and Nickie. Even though Kees suggested them, I have been enjoying OTPMD since Amazon randomly suggested them last year. The album "We're OK. But We're Lost Anyway" is a great diverse listen. Talented group. Here a couple of songs (Beginning and Blabber) from the album done in a not chamber outdoor setting. |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: June 25 2023 at 11:23
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^ Wonderful! I could vote for all 25 from this playlist. That would not be reasonable, so being very selective I'm voting for Fuse, Aranis, DJ Spooky & Kronos Quartet and Rêve Général... Thanks for all these wonderful contributions! ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: June 25 2023 at 11:49
| ^^ I enjoyed that, thanks. I now have have checked out various music by OTPMD, and "Be Patient" still stands out for me for its rather deep Krautrocky groove -- I commonly do come from a kind of Swans space now. It's good to have variety in a band. I look forward to exploring more of this group, and growing into the music more and more. I do like everything I have heard of the group so far. |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: June 25 2023 at 12:15
Thank you for extra link, George! I will enjoy checking that out. ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: July 01 2023 at 05:10
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Listening to the list now for the third time and hugely enjoying it, I realise that there is a good number of things I know and without voting for anything of these (despite some being very good), I vote for the vast majority of the other things as this is all so good. (I'm not quite done yet and of course anybody can speculate whether things I haven't voited for are those I already know or those that I don't like quite as much, of which there are very few...) |