New Wave Albums: 1977
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Topic: New Wave Albums: 1977
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Subject: New Wave Albums: 1977
Date Posted: May 20 2023 at 08:50
 1977: Blondie - Plastic Letters - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zj3slKh3IEY" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zj3slKh3IEY  1977: The Boomtown Rats - The Boomtown Rats - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLfNI8tKGRuJZxo43RTWZ26N4nGHSYTMGl" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLfNI8tKGRuJZxo43RTWZ26N4nGHSYTMGl  1977: David Bowie - Low - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VomGFs_DaIk" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VomGFs_DaIk 1977: David Bowie - Heroes - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFLLE8LPA_k" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFLLE8LPA_k 1977: The Clash - The Clash - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_9gWeiShHFEugeyVkRX0AHyFiRu8iS09" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_9gWeiShHFEugeyVkRX0AHyFiRu8iS09 1977: Elvis Costello - My Aim is True - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n-mvT43vQGZxdNYrXHpi1mCM5SiWji_J4" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n-mvT43vQGZxdNYrXHpi1mCM5SiWji_J4 1977: The Damned - Damned Damned Damned - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l-FQ7eMo0I296xwN8AzzFy8TFjs5zwFS8" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l-FQ7eMo0I296xwN8AzzFy8TFjs5zwFS8 1977: The Damned - Music for Pleasure - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kRw-5gHFdvy6Fc2QGNjgAUxDLHESKuqGc" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kRw-5gHFdvy6Fc2QGNjgAUxDLHESKuqGc 1977: Ian Dury - New Boots and Panties - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CG3c857o5LU" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CG3c857o5LU 1977: Brian Eno - Before and After Science - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XLiAX3NjBY" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XLiAX3NjBY 1977: The Jam - In the City - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7sfNRCO58l5NpYgkeMN5vkn1-3WmCddT" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7sfNRCO58l5NpYgkeMN5vkn1-3WmCddT 1977: The Jam - This is the Modern World - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7sfNRCO58l5SdAH2xBFKCwNVvRMy2yTy" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7sfNRCO58l5SdAH2xBFKCwNVvRMy2yTy 1977: Iggy Pop - The Idiot - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLI21Mpk0oq-VJnhfGmCF9-0uqFOcZYtvG" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLI21Mpk0oq-VJnhfGmCF9-0uqFOcZYtvG 1977: Iggy Pop - Lust for Life - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lLG1HBKMtWeOmhvi0QhHriAuQN15sbPzU" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lLG1HBKMtWeOmhvi0QhHriAuQN15sbPzU 1977: Ramones - Leave Home - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeCDxQ62ibc" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeCDxQ62ibc 1977: Ramones - Rocket to Russia - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B30U5Gigcu4" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B30U5Gigcu4 1977: Sex Pistols - Never Mind the B******* - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGCYNhaZ728" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGCYNhaZ728 1977: Sparks - Introducing Sparks - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDXwMuUhgbw" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDXwMuUhgbw 1977: Split Enz - Dizrhythmia - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWQU9N_Fmko8bq704QdphNqYAgo8LKXmy" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWQU9N_Fmko8bq704QdphNqYAgo8LKXmy 1977: The Stranglers - Rattus Norvegicus - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYTy2ccY9eU" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYTy2ccY9eU 1977: The Stranglers - No More Heroes - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kVBPDWFwCOmqopPd79qhCTHvZnFQi3jJY" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kVBPDWFwCOmqopPd79qhCTHvZnFQi3jJY 1977: Talking Heads - Talking Heads 77 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dy55ZdObzBw" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dy55ZdObzBw 1977: Television - Marquee Moon - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KvgP8MlEEE" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KvgP8MlEEE 1977: Ultravox! - Ultravox! - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLijPiy4xM0hchaORwSGezEVR6WI9HdxPN" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLijPiy4xM0hchaORwSGezEVR6WI9HdxPN 1977: Ultravox - Ha! Ha! Ha! - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLijPiy4xM0heR5ooQ4nQ--qPBh19SL_ka" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLijPiy4xM0heR5ooQ4nQ--qPBh19SL_ka |
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: May 20 2023 at 08:57
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Television - Marquee Moon even I definitely think more of it as Art Punk than New Wave. I'm also fond of Sex Pistols - Never Mind the Bullocks... (Punk Rock)
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: May 20 2023 at 09:31
Never mind the bullocks, look out for the bull!  |
David wrote:Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: May 20 2023 at 09:31
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Low - without a doubt |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: May 20 2023 at 09:33
Low is the high-point of this poll for me too.
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Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: May 20 2023 at 09:46
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Strange, but interesting list... Paul, looking at the relatively low ratings you give to quite a bunch of these albums, I guess this is based upon some ranking, somewhere - care to share the source? Bowie will probably garner many votes here, but I will vote for Ian Dury here - this man deserves some more airplay! ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: May 20 2023 at 10:02
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: May 20 2023 at 10:04
Sorry if it was too bad for you, Paul.  ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: May 20 2023 at 10:22
That, I understand. But the list, apparently, isn't (because why oh why would anyone want to present a list of albums of which almost half of them he/she doesn't like?). Hence my question. ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: May 20 2023 at 10:37
I guessed I probably wouldn't like half of the albums in the poll, but I didn't know for sure until I listened to them all recently. I have a feeling the albums will get better though - at least from my point of view - when we reach the 1980's. The only six albums I'd heard previously in this poll were the two David Bowie albums from his Berlin trilogy, the first two albums by Ultravox, Brian Eno's Before and After Science album and Blondie's second album (released in Japan in December 1977 and the rest of the world in early 1978).
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: May 20 2023 at 10:45
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Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: May 20 2023 at 10:46
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^ and ^^ Clearly, my question wasn't clear: Paul, did you base this list of albums
for this poll on some existing ranking/listing somewhere or is it a list
of your own concoction?
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: May 20 2023 at 11:16
Yes, I cobbled together the list of albums from multiple sources, just like most of my other polls, and all of the ratings are my own, so you know who to blame.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: May 20 2023 at 11:21
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^ I was curious too, that info gives context, and the process to me is often more interesting than the results. On another note, to give more context for the ratings, how much of those two star albums did you listen to? I rarely give out two stars because I rarely persevere with albums that would get less than three form me (I have listened to many songs that I don't like, but I avoid albums that I don't expect to like and don't persevere if very little seems to appeal). I know at times you have mentioned only listening to very little of music that you rate lowly. Ultimately it's between three albums on this list: Low, Heroes and Marquis Moon. Went Low for a higher percentage one might say (really because of how much I like it as I often do support the underdog, or diamond dogs). ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: May 20 2023 at 11:45
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Quite a bit of New Wave was already around in 77 apparently, but I don't connect that well to the majority of these. Many of these have better albums later, for me that is. Low and Marquee Moon may be better than most on this list but I still don't rate them as highly as apparently most others. I like Heroes quite a bit more than Low, and it would've snatched my vote, were it not for the cool Eno album (the Bowie albums are of course also partly Eno albums, so my favourites are pretty much all Eno). |
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: May 20 2023 at 11:46
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^^Correct me if I'm wrong, Paul. I don't believe he listens to the entire album, only snippets. Elvis for me. |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: May 20 2023 at 11:56
The same applies to me too. I didn't persevere with any of the two star albums in the poll - when five minutes was about all I could stand - and that's especially true in the case of the Sex Pistols - one of the most overrated bands in the world in my view. Anyway, things can only get better from hereon - to paraphrase D:Ream.
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: May 20 2023 at 12:03
I may backtrack and do a pre-1977 New Wave poll, mainly so I can include the first two New Wave albums by Eno as well as the early albums by Sparks and the debut album by Blondie from 1976. Oh, and not forgetting Bowie's Diamond Dogs too, following a handy reminder by Logan. On the subject of Sparks, I have a feeling their debut "Halfnelson" from 1971 may have been the very first New Wave album, unless anyone knows differently.
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: May 20 2023 at 12:07
Yes, you're quite correct. I've only listened to six albums in the poll in their entirety.
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: May 20 2023 at 15:44
What are you saying?!! Great music!!  ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: May 20 2023 at 15:46
Each to their own.
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: May 20 2023 at 16:06
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Right! ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: May 20 2023 at 16:09
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Sorry, Paul ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: May 20 2023 at 16:24
Agreed! The quintessential anarcho-punk album of the ages. Although punk was considered new wave at the time, these days it's not so i wouldn't include it on this poll. For anyone interested i recently updated my New Wave list on RYM and added HUNDREDS of new artists. It's possibly the most comprehensive list on the entire interweb. http://rateyourmusic.com/list/siLLy_puPPy/new-wave-of-the-70s-and-80s-the-definitive-guide/" rel="nofollow - https://rateyourmusic.com/list/siLLy_puPPy/new-wave-of-the-70s-and-80s-the-definitive-guide/ -------------  https://rateyourmusic.com/~siLLy_puPPy |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: May 20 2023 at 16:47
Don't worry. The punk image of The Queen was enough to put me off, without listening to the godawful racket on the video too.  As Silly Puppy says though, it was the quintessential punk album of the era, so I couldn't very well leave it out of the poll, much as I would've liked to.
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: May 20 2023 at 17:14
Actually, it was the queen image and the lyrics that could worry me on your behalf, but we just look very differently on the whole matter here, as I find this song as one of the very best Rock depictions of some social conditions and reactions to them. ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: May 21 2023 at 04:30
Bowie's Low new wave ? Stop joking ! 
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: May 21 2023 at 04:35
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The Jam's second album is called This Is The Modern World btw. They're the best band here but they really took off with their next album All Mod Cons, so it's between Mr Dury and Talking Heads for me.
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: May 21 2023 at 05:15
I've encountered much bigger jokes here just this week. Breaking Glass, What In The World, Sound And Vision, Always Crashing In The Same Car, Be My Wife... all have that approach to rock that I associate with New Wave. Or really, what was to become known as New Wave. I don't think there many New Wave/Post-Punk bands not inspired by his so called Bowie Trilogy.
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: May 21 2023 at 06:30
Thanks! I don't know where my head was at. I must have had the Weekend on my mind at the time.
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: May 22 2023 at 06:06
A bit late and I know, you didn't mean it to be fun, but anyway. ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: May 22 2023 at 06:20
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The Stranglers - No More Heroes for me, great album On my list of consideration The Damned - Damned Damned Damned Ian Dury - New Boots & Panties The Clash - The Clash ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: May 22 2023 at 12:36
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Might be even worse racket. ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: May 22 2023 at 13:04
You're right about that, having just listened to the debut album by Public Image Ltd from 1978, which not coincidentally, also features Johnny Rotten making an even worse racket than the Sex Pistols..
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: May 22 2023 at 13:12
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Come on, Paul, you must not loose your sense of humor and self-irony. ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: May 22 2023 at 13:32
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When you know, you don't like some music, why not just keep away from it? ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: May 22 2023 at 14:40
Ha! Ha! Ha! These New Wave polls are about to get a whole lot better with Ultravox' Vienna and debut albums from China Crisis, Depeche Mode, Duran Duran, Human League, OMD, Spandau Ballet, Talk Talk, Tears for Fears, and many others to look forward to.
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Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: May 23 2023 at 15:55
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Bowie's Low ------------- ---------- i'm shopping for a new oil-cured sinus bag that's a happy bag of lettuce this car smells like cartilage nothing beats a good video about fractions |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: June 05 2023 at 13:35
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1977: David Bowie - Low - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VomGFs_DaIk" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VomGFs_DaIk The High point of the Low album... |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: June 05 2023 at 14:12
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1) Television 2) Ultravox 3) Talking Heads 4) Bowie 5) Bowie 6) Clash 7) Eno 8) Pistols 9) Ramones 10) Costello. It was a wonderful year. (Suicide - one of my faves - are missing). ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: Hiram
Date Posted: June 05 2023 at 21:44
| Iggy Pop - The Idiot followed by about half of the list and a reminder to re/acquaint myself with the other half. What a great year! |
Posted By: Octopus II
Date Posted: June 29 2023 at 11:25
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David Bowie - Low Ramones - Leave Home Iggy Pop - Lust For Life Ian Dury - New Boots & Panties
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