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Topic: For Oldfield Fans
Posted By: Frets N Worries
Subject: For Oldfield Fans
Date Posted: April 30 2023 at 19:02
For those of you who like me, are big MO fans, may I recommend Colin Masson, I heard about him on here, and I looked him up, great stuff, highly recommend. 



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Posted By: Frets N Worries
Date Posted: April 30 2023 at 19:14
He's only got about 50 monthly on Spotify
His debut is his best (in my opinion), but the others are still amazing

https://open.spotify.com/album/6CxFJ27zvQi28OvHcFJ7zV?si=lBbB1AqCTCybz9cpLZCkeQ


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: May 01 2023 at 05:25
Here's another album for Oldfield fans by Rob Reed (of Magenta fame) - one of the unsung heroes of prog - who sounds more like Mike Oldfield here than Mike Oldfield does himself. Tongue

5 stars 2014: Robert Reed - Sanctuary -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lEXFN-SNu_rgnMfkyMtR1OzwTemPOZS9s" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lEXFN-SNu_rgnMfkyMtR1OzwTemPOZS9s


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: May 02 2023 at 07:00
Never heard of Colin Masson but having a listen to the debut as I type and the first few minutes are certainly very alluring. The MO connection is very obvious and remarkably he seems able to play the electric guitar in the same style. That is not an easy thing to do!

Unfortunately not a massive fan of Rob Reed's solo outings, they are too close to 'Pastiche' for my liking. I do like Magenta a lot though.


Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: May 02 2023 at 08:27
Also, Ken Baird.  http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=976" rel="nofollow - https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=976


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: May 02 2023 at 09:01
Also, Pierre Moerlen.

 5 stars 1979: Pierre Moerlen's Gong - Downwind -  http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kiBGVj7_hI9pitFBGgjZayc9uqaDZfovc" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kiBGVj7_hI9pitFBGgjZayc9uqaDZfovc




Posted By: edefakiel
Date Posted: May 02 2023 at 14:51
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Here's another album for Oldfield fans by Rob Reed (of Magenta fame) - one of the unsung heroes of prog - who sounds more like Mike Oldfield here than Mike Oldfield does himself. Tongue

5 stars 2014: Robert Reed - Sanctuary -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lEXFN-SNu_rgnMfkyMtR1OzwTemPOZS9s" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lEXFN-SNu_rgnMfkyMtR1OzwTemPOZS9s

You beat me:  http://robertreed.bandcamp.com/album/the-ringmaster-part-two" rel="nofollow - https://robertreed.bandcamp.com/album/the-ringmaster-part-two

For a one man band I'm really into Ben Craven:  http://bencraven.bandcamp.com/album/monsters-from-the-id" rel="nofollow - https://bencraven.bandcamp.com/album/monsters-from-the-id


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: May 02 2023 at 23:20
Hola Amigos! How about Spanish band Fadalack for a Live tribute to Ommadawn?



Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: May 02 2023 at 23:37
Originally posted by edefakiel edefakiel wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Here's another album for Oldfield fans by Rob Reed (of Magenta fame) - one of the unsung heroes of prog - who sounds more like Mike Oldfield here than Mike Oldfield does himself. Tongue

5 stars<span style=": rgb248, 248, 252;"> 2014: Robert Reed - Sanctuary - </span> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lEXFN-SNu_rgnMfkyMtR1OzwTemPOZS9s" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lEXFN-SNu_rgnMfkyMtR1OzwTemPOZS9s


You beat me:  http://robertreed.bandcamp.com/album/the-ringmaster-part-two" rel="nofollow - https://robertreed.bandcamp.com/album/the-ringmaster-part-two

For a one man band I'm really into Ben Craven:  http://bencraven.bandcamp.com/album/monsters-from-the-id" rel="nofollow - https://bencraven.bandcamp.com/album/monsters-from-the-id



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Posted By: runciblemoon
Date Posted: May 03 2023 at 06:09
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Unfortunately not a massive fan of Rob Reed's solo outings, they are too close to 'Pastiche' for my liking. I do like Magenta a lot though.

I had similar struggles when I first encountered Rob's Oldfield-inspired solo work - almost a musical equivalent of the "uncanny valley" effect. But after months of vacillation I thought "what the hell" the other day and bought the first Sanctuary album, and I have to say I've really really warmed to it. Yes, it is a very conscious attempt to create new music in the exact style of classic Oldfield albums, so if you place a high value on originality it's not going to impress you, but if you're just jonesing for more music in that very idiosyncratic style it is by far the best example I've ever come across.

It's truly impressive in its meticulous recreation of that sound and the quality of the compositions themselves, which I think are absolutely on a par with some of Oldfield's best. It's like opening a door on a parallel world where Oldfield somehow cranked out several more albums between Ommadawn and Incantations!


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: May 03 2023 at 07:08
Originally posted by runciblemoon runciblemoon wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Unfortunately not a massive fan of Rob Reed's solo outings, they are too close to 'Pastiche' for my liking. I do like Magenta a lot though.

I had similar struggles when I first encountered Rob's Oldfield-inspired solo work - almost a musical equivalent of the "uncanny valley" effect. But after months of vacillation I thought "what the hell" the other day and bought the first Sanctuary album, and I have to say I've really really warmed to it. Yes, it is a very conscious attempt to create new music in the exact style of classic Oldfield albums, so if you place a high value on originality it's not going to impress you, but if you're just jonesing for more music in that very idiosyncratic style it is by far the best example I've ever come across.

It's truly impressive in its meticulous recreation of that sound and the quality of the compositions themselves, which I think are absolutely on a par with some of Oldfield's best. It's like opening a door on a parallel world where Oldfield somehow cranked out several more albums between Ommadawn and Incantations!

Oldfield's music (first 4 mainly) represented a new form of classical music so its hard to touch. I just can't go from Ommadawn to Rob's stuff and not comprehend a major difference. Smile 
I then realised how far apart they are when Oldfield released the lovely Return To Ommadawn, nowhere near his most inspired work but still way above any 'imitators' imo


Posted By: runciblemoon
Date Posted: May 03 2023 at 08:03
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Oldfield's music (first 4 mainly) represented a new form of classical music so its hard to touch.


Agreed, but I think that's why I've come to appreciate what Reed's doing on those albums. Why should this style of composition be the sole purview of one composer? Why can't other musicians try their hand at it?

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

I just can't go from Ommadawn to Rob's stuff and not comprehend a major difference. Smile 
I then realised how far apart they are when Oldfield released the lovely Return To Ommadawn, nowhere near his most inspired work but still way above any 'imitators' imo

That's interesting, because I personally feel like it's a much tighter disparity than you're giving Reed credit for. Not only does he have the tones and textures down pat, but the compositions themselves are just as full of character and detail and interesting themes as Oldfield's best IMO. The Reed albums are copycats, no doubt, but I don't detect anything inherently inferior about them when compared in a vaccuum. They simply lack the weight of history and the kudos that comes with being the progenitor of the particular style in which they are written and recorded.

It would be fascinating to conduct an experiment with, say, 100 people who are intimately familar with Oldfield's classic albums but haven't heard either Return to Ommadawn or Sancturary. You could play them both albums and ask them to decide which was by Oldfield and which was by another musician. I could be wrong, but I feel like the results would be a pretty even split.

Ultimately, I get why Rob's solo albums can be offputting and not everyone's cup of tea, but Return to Ommadawn is looking increasingly likely to be Oldfield's last forary into Tubular Bells style composition, so I'd much rather have the ocassional convincing forgery courtesy of Rob Reed to enjoy than no new music at all in that vein.


Posted By: PhideauxFan
Date Posted: May 04 2023 at 05:00
I've got a CD of Colin Masson. I also know another album with a ship on the artwork. It is good, but as I am not a big fan of Mike Oldfield, it is not essential for me.


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: May 04 2023 at 20:51
Originally posted by runciblemoon runciblemoon wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Oldfield's music (first 4 mainly) represented a new form of classical music so its hard to touch.


Agreed, but I think that's why I've come to appreciate what Reed's doing on those albums. Why should this style of composition be the sole purview of one composer? Why can't other musicians try their hand at it?

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

I just can't go from Ommadawn to Rob's stuff and not comprehend a major difference. Smile 
I then realised how far apart they are when Oldfield released the lovely Return To Ommadawn, nowhere near his most inspired work but still way above any 'imitators' imo

That's interesting, because I personally feel like it's a much tighter disparity than you're giving Reed credit for. Not only does he have the tones and textures down pat, but the compositions themselves are just as full of character and detail and interesting themes as Oldfield's best IMO. The Reed albums are copycats, no doubt, but I don't detect anything inherently inferior about them when compared in a vaccuum. They simply lack the weight of history and the kudos that comes with being the progenitor of the particular style in which they are written and recorded.

It would be fascinating to conduct an experiment with, say, 100 people who are intimately familar with Oldfield's classic albums but haven't heard either Return to Ommadawn or Sancturary. You could play them both albums and ask them to decide which was by Oldfield and which was by another musician. I could be wrong, but I feel like the results would be a pretty even split.

Ultimately, I get why Rob's solo albums can be offputting and not everyone's cup of tea, but Return to Ommadawn is looking increasingly likely to be Oldfield's last forary into Tubular Bells style composition, so I'd much rather have the ocassional convincing forgery courtesy of Rob Reed to enjoy than no new music at all in that vein.

I don't want to be too critical of Reed as I do like Magenta a lot but his solo stuff feels like an AI has been tasked with creating new music by Oldfield. Oldfield was a one off. Just that 'metal' section in Hergest Ridge alone demonstrates why its pointless to try and imitate the great man. That is ridiculous yet inspired at the same time. Its the very epitome of progressive music! I don't hear anything remotely interesting in Rob's stuff. Certainly he has the chops but that's it IMO


Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: May 05 2023 at 13:23
I’ve have these albums:

Rare And Reworked - The Music Of Mike Oldfield PRE-ORDER
by The Tubular All Stars
Mike Oldfield - Reimagined For Piano PRE-ORDER
by Robin A. Smith
Tubular Bells - Reimagined - 50th Anniversary Recording
by Robin A. Smith
The Ringmaster Part One
by robert reed
The Ringmaster Part Two
by robert reed

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Two people are better off than one, for they can help each other succeed.



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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: May 05 2023 at 18:26
Hi,

I was thinking that Gordon Giltrap, fits here, and probably better than the two suggestions made that not everyone liked.

I am not a "camparetist" and tend to look at things independent of suggestions, thoughts and ideas, so I can get a fresh ear to the piece of music, otherwise it all sounds the same to me.

I was thinking things like Clearlight might deserve a mention, but its design is more "classical" to my ears, and not as "traditional" as MO makes use of his culture left and right and extends it tremendously to a very good effect.

I would prefer that folks had not compared those folks to MO ... to me it lessens their ability. And that, for my thinking, is so top ten designed that it bothers me.


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Posted By: PhideauxFan
Date Posted: May 06 2023 at 03:08
Colin Masson. Wink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdNUN7ZGVFY" rel="nofollow - Isle of Eight - YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wv34qFcHmb4" rel="nofollow - Colin Masson - 04. The Mad Monk And The Mountain - YouTube


Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: May 06 2023 at 12:10
definitely some of the early work by Japanese group Asturias could raise comparisons to Oldfield



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