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Topic: Prog Rock Timeline: 1989
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Subject: Prog Rock Timeline: 1989
Date Posted: April 04 2023 at 02:22
Compiled from Wikipedia's Timeline of Progressive Rock (1980-1989)

3 stars 1989: After Crying - Opus 1 -  http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mr2ph3nvPCaaK-2PZ9o_tq2gDvTch8K2w" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mr2ph3nvPCaaK-2PZ9o_tq2gDvTch8K2w
4 stars 1989: Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVPGzOHIIgz9mrbq0cYIASUPCn7d20-Dy" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVPGzOHIIgz9mrbq0cYIASUPCn7d20-Dy
2 stars 1989: Art Zoyd - Nosferatu -  http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nafkHAbWtOce7Tomn-KuHBo_QVS9KuABk" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nafkHAbWtOce7Tomn-KuHBo_QVS9KuABk
2 stars 1989: Cardiacs - Cardiacs Live -  http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lQLNfnr0xFubGFlkbLgK6XZ0jAm4zXIJA" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lQLNfnr0xFubGFlkbLgK6XZ0jAm4zXIJA
3 stars 1989: Djam Karet - Reflections from the Firepool
4 stars 1989: Dream Theater - When Dream and Day Unite -  http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_li0d7h1v8158uiQviXYaU0s-YVGLUiFr8" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_li0d7h1v8158uiQviXYaU0s-YVGLUiFr8
3 stars 1989: Fates Warning - Perfect Symmetry -  http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lDFacxiUoooRs-MD421_JmqUm6dWsysMk" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lDFacxiUoooRs-MD421_JmqUm6dWsysMk
4 stars 1989: Peter Gabriel - Passion (soundtrack) -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEYfGmIinkpf7Ivicuuu69PS" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEYfGmIinkpf7Ivicuuu69PS
3 stars 1989: Horizont - The Portrait of a Boy -  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ygZUT944O0&t=983s" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ygZUT944O0&t=983s
3 stars 1989: IQ - Are You Sitting Comfortably? -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpKWlzgxqnwfUKVsqnsD-a9P" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpKWlzgxqnwfUKVsqnsD-a9P
4 stars 1989: Isidurs Bane - Cheval: Volonte de Rocher -  http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lJBD2unN_8WGxFyGl6QSZD-ZcC-QrTjN8" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lJBD2unN_8WGxFyGl6QSZD-ZcC-QrTjN8
3 stars 1989: Jethro Tull - Rock Island -  http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_ndsMjdgKhJZw5metLGIyYrpD2Qd8msc-g" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_ndsMjdgKhJZw5metLGIyYrpD2Qd8msc-g
4 stars 1989: Kenso - Sparta -  http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kiwgIAEbRSZjpZN-o9s5tLf_sAgNayDjo" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kiwgIAEbRSZjpZN-o9s5tLf_sAgNayDjo
3 stars 1989: King's X - Gretchen Goes to Nebraska -  http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kf_fQy4BoLgqQ8kAtZ7O7pKZtP1GfYhZs" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kf_fQy4BoLgqQ8kAtZ7O7pKZtP1GfYhZs
4 stars 1989: Marillion - Seasons End -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kQHRjpWTI8dbqeasPZrSmO69_gHW9wM2k" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kQHRjpWTI8dbqeasPZrSmO69_gHW9wM2k
4 stars 1989: Not Drowning, Waving - Claim -  http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l8FUVX4GG_1FWG1d01RCBmRuCPRCX_AoA" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l8FUVX4GG_1FWG1d01RCBmRuCPRCX_AoA
4 stars 1989: Nuova Era - Dopo L'Infinito -  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdSgloZdSNE" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdSgloZdSNE
4 stars 1989: Outer Limits - Outer Mania -  http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kvDwlHMzpsc36WtT3zmbSJYghLKxQu8cI" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kvDwlHMzpsc36WtT3zmbSJYghLKxQu8cI
3 stars 1989: Ozric Tentacles - Pungent Effulgent -  http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mlyt4rI5QF7rpd8edDglGVNIlxvMx7p9U" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mlyt4rI5QF7rpd8edDglGVNIlxvMx7p9U
3 stars 1989: Phish - Junta -  http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nUuYcjkq_0oyhQJi5_MJ0iELCMHswespU" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nUuYcjkq_0oyhQJi5_MJ0iELCMHswespU
3 stars 1989: Queen - The Miracle -  http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lvtld6sVFMY5uIiPQpKxtQPxSL9dDT5Ck" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lvtld6sVFMY5uIiPQpKxtQPxSL9dDT5Ck
3 stars 1989: Rush - Presto -  http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kT76vxuvzQ6cuq3QeylCLVcCjl5QASiGc" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kT76vxuvzQ6cuq3QeylCLVcCjl5QASiGc
3 stars 1989: Saga - The Beginners Guide to Throwing Shapes -  http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLE6A1C5DAC090904D" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLE6A1C5DAC090904D
5 stars 1989: Tears for Fears - The Seeds of Love -  http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nzDcE4P9uRjxbaVYOEh_CrGpRIeCDYmzg" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nzDcE4P9uRjxbaVYOEh_CrGpRIeCDYmzg
2 stars 1989: Thinking Plague - In This Life -  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQX0jnzoduI" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQX0jnzoduI



Replies:
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: April 04 2023 at 02:25


Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: April 04 2023 at 02:30
Marillion


Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: April 04 2023 at 02:31
ABWH then Ozric and Marillion , an another poor year for progers


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: April 04 2023 at 02:33
I've never understood the love for ABWH. Confused


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 04 2023 at 02:35
I guessed that you wouldn't include After Dinner for Paradise of Replica from the wikipedia prog timeline entries, but that would have got my vote.

I'll go Thinking Plague again with In This Life. By the way, even the main Cardiacs wikipedia page confirms that Caradiacs Live was "Released: 31 October 1988". I know we already established that the timeline pages have many errors, and it's not a big deal to me.


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 04 2023 at 03:01
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

I've never understood the love for ABWH. Confused


A lot of people seem to have a soft spot for it, while also being quite divisive. I would call it mediocre, or of lesser quality than mediocre actually.

Teakbois may be some kind of nadir for the weak boys -- when it comes to about 7:40 songs anyway.



Let's Pretend sounds quite nice, maybe I should be quite nice and pretend that it's a good album.    

To each his or her own tastes of course.


Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: April 04 2023 at 04:06
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

I've never understood the love for ABWH. Confused


A lot of people seem to have a soft spot for it, while also being quite divisive. I would call it mediocre, or of lesser quality than mediocre actually.

Teakbois may be some kind of nadir for the weak boys -- when it comes to about 7:40 songs anyway.



Let's Pretend sounds quite nice, maybe I should be quite nice and pretend that it's a good album.    

To each his or her own tastes of course.






Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe my vote

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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: April 04 2023 at 04:09
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

I've never understood the love for ABWH. Confused


A lot of people seem to have a soft spot for it, while also being quite divisive. I would call it mediocre, or of lesser quality than mediocre actually.

To each his or her own tastes of course.

It gets an occasional play from me; I do quite like 'Brother Of Mine' and 'Order Of The Universe' although in truth, if you are trying to find 'good' Yes albums, for me they only released 3 after 1980... Talk, which is oddly excellent in it's own right, but still not really Yes, the Keystudio material and Magnification. I'd possibly add the longies off The Ladder, but that's about it... Confused 


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: April 04 2023 at 04:15
Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

I've never understood the love for ABWH. Confused


A lot of people seem to have a soft spot for it, while also being quite divisive. I would call it mediocre, or of lesser quality than mediocre actually.

To each his or her own tastes of course.

It gets an occasional play from me; I do quite like 'Brother Of Mine' and 'Order Of The Universe' although in truth, if you are trying to find 'good' Yes albums, for me they only released 3 after 1980... Talk, which is oddly excellent in it's own right, but still not really Yes, the Keystudio material and Magnification. I'd possibly add the longies off The Ladder, but that's about it... Confused 

Talk and Magnification definitely, the Ladder, not so much, I find it uneven. 
90125 and Big Generator are fine albums IMO. I haven't listened to Keystudio in a very long time, I will try and find some time for a listen. 


Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: April 04 2023 at 04:26
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Talk and Magnification definitely, the Ladder, not so much, I find it uneven. 
90125 and Big Generator are fine albums IMO. I haven't listened to Keystudio in a very long time, I will try and find some time for a listen. 

Oh, 'The Ladder' is most definitely uneven... most of the centre of the album is entirely forgettable, which is why I said 'The Longies'... Homeworld and New Language would have fitted well on Keystudio and save the album from being on a level with Onion.

90125 and BG are fine enough if you file them under Asia, but in all honesty if I ever feel the urge for some intelligent AOR, I'd rather listen to the first three Toto albums... Smile


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: April 04 2023 at 04:30
Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Talk and Magnification definitely, the Ladder, not so much, I find it uneven. 
90125 and Big Generator are fine albums IMO. I haven't listened to Keystudio in a very long time, I will try and find some time for a listen. 

Oh, 'The Ladder' is most definitely uneven... most of the centre of the album is entirely forgettable, which is why I said 'The Longies'... Homeworld and New Language would have fitted well on Keystudio and save the album from being on a level with Onion.

90125 and BG are fine enough if you file them under Asia, but in all honesty if I ever feel the urge for some intelligent AOR, I'd rather listen to the first three Toto albums... Smile

Intelligent AOR?! LOL As opposed to dumb AOR? LOL I love Toto, most of their albums are fine. 
I also think 90125 and Big Generator are better (more entertaining and enjoyable) than any Asia album. 


Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: April 04 2023 at 04:35
Fates Warning and Dream Theater followed by Tears for Fears and Nuova Era


Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: April 04 2023 at 04:36
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Intelligent AOR?! LOL As opposed to dumb AOR? LOL I love Toto, most of their albums are fine. 
I also think 90125 and Big Generator are better (more entertaining and enjoyable) than any Asia album. 

well, I think we'd agree that most AOR follows are fairly restricted formula and quickly becomes generic and lacking in imagination... you may disagree, but back in the 80's, there were literally no end of 'dumb' AOR bands on the scene... Wink


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: April 04 2023 at 04:43
Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Intelligent AOR?! LOL As opposed to dumb AOR? LOL I love Toto, most of their albums are fine. 
I also think 90125 and Big Generator are better (more entertaining and enjoyable) than any Asia album. 

well, I think we'd agree that most AOR follows are fairly restricted formula and quickly becomes generic and lacking in imagination... you may disagree, but back in the 80's, there were literally no end of 'dumb' AOR bands on the scene... Wink

I know, just that the "intelligent AOR" made me giggle like a naughty kid in school. LOL
I do like some AOR, if the vocals and guitar work are really good, I will enjoy that. Big smile


Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: April 04 2023 at 05:04
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

I know, just that the "intelligent AOR" made me giggle like a naughty kid in school. LOL
I do like some AOR, if the vocals and guitar work are really good, I will enjoy that. Big smile

The first three Toto albums, late 70's Styx and early Steve Perry era Journey are the ones that have always stood out to me as being quality AOR which command repeat listens... not that I tend to much these days


Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: April 04 2023 at 05:05
King's X.


Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: April 04 2023 at 05:19

happy to find this one

Djam Karet - Reflections from the Firepool  Thumbs Up


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Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: April 04 2023 at 05:21
King’s X as well, although this could have gone one of several ways, with the IQ, DT and Marillion albums all very good.

ABWH is one of my favourite Yes albums, along with Drama, 90125 and Can’t Look Away😉

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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: April 04 2023 at 05:26

How Tears for Fears has become a part of Wikipedia's Timeline of Progressive Rock (1980-1989), I surely don't understand. Ermm


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Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: April 04 2023 at 06:22
ABWH, and RRUUSSHH, but not so much . . .

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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: April 04 2023 at 06:27
Art Zoyd vs. Cardiacs for the win, even though I like some more here, particularly Pungent Effulgent. I vote Art Zoyd but on another day might prefer Cardiacs.


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: April 04 2023 at 06:40
Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:


How Tears for Fears has become a part of Wikipedia's Timeline of Progressive Rock (1980-1989), I surely don't understand. Ermm
The same way that Talk Talk became a part of ProgArchives Timeline of Progressive Rock, presumably. Wink


Posted By: omphaloskepsis
Date Posted: April 04 2023 at 06:43
Originally posted by geekfreak geekfreak wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

I've never understood the love for ABWH. Confused


A lot of people seem to have a soft spot for it, while also being quite divisive. I would call it mediocre, or of lesser quality than mediocre actually.

Teakbois may be some kind of nadir for the weak boys -- when it comes to about 7:40 songs anyway.



Let's Pretend sounds quite nice, maybe I should be quite nice and pretend that it's a good album.    

To each his or her own tastes of course.






Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe my vote


ABWH gets my vote, too.  Top ten YES album in my heart. I adore it.

 Even Teakbois.  Jon Anderson knew some people wouldn't get it. So, he put that message in the repeated refrain of the last line of the song.  The written lyric is-

"This Summer you couldn't get it"Ouch

But the sung lyric sounds like-

"Some of you can get it"Wink


Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: April 04 2023 at 07:13
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:


How Tears for Fears has become a part of Wikipedia's Timeline of Progressive Rock (1980-1989), I surely don't understand. Ermm
The same way that Talk Talk became a part of ProgArchives Timeline of Progressive Rock, presumably. Wink

In my view Talk Talk are far more heavyweight (and consequently have a far more justified presence in a prog timeline) than TFF, at least the last three albums.


Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: April 04 2023 at 07:17
there have been no perfect Yes albums for decades but I still like ABWH I just skip Teakbois which is pretty bad- but I still enjoy the album more then Yes west today


Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: April 04 2023 at 08:05
I still need to pick up that Art Zoyd so for me its

Thinking Plague > Ozrics, Cardiacs, Djam Karet


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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: April 04 2023 at 08:11
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

How Tears for Fears has become a part of Wikipedia's Timeline of Progressive Rock (1980-1989), I surely don't understand. Ermm
The same way that Talk Talk became a part of ProgArchives Timeline of Progressive Rock, presumably. Wink

If to be serious, the big difference is that TFF in no way is considered to be Progressive Rock in Wikipedia's article about the band. 



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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: April 04 2023 at 08:16

^ But you surely have got Talk Talk on your mind.  LOL


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Posted By: VianaProghead
Date Posted: April 04 2023 at 08:35
Fates Warning - Perfect Symmetry.

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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: April 04 2023 at 09:00
1. Tears for Fears
2. Kenso
3. Isidurs Bane
4. Outer Limits
5. Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: April 04 2023 at 09:05
Originally posted by omphaloskepsis omphaloskepsis wrote:

ABWH gets my vote, too.  Top ten YES album in my heart. I adore it.

It's not a Yes album. It would have 'Yes" on the cover, wouldn't it? Geek




Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 04 2023 at 09:16
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by omphaloskepsis omphaloskepsis wrote:

ABWH gets my vote, too.  Top ten YES album in my heart. I adore it.

It's not a Yes album. It would have 'Yes" on the cover, wouldn't it? Geek




Sorry to butt in, but the album wouldn't have to have Yes on the cover for it be a Yes album according to Cindy's heart. A cardiologist might confirm if Yes is written/ branded on Cindy's heart if it weren't more metaphorical.

I thought it was pretty much Yes in all but name, but I don't know. Aside from the name, the cover looks very Yes too.


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: April 04 2023 at 09:27
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by omphaloskepsis omphaloskepsis wrote:

ABWH gets my vote, too.  Top ten YES album in my heart. I adore it.

It's not a Yes album. It would have 'Yes" on the cover, wouldn't it? Geek


Sorry to butt in, but the album wouldn't have to have Yes on the cover for it be a Yes album according to Cindy's heart. A cardiologist might confirm if Yes is written/ branded on Cindy's heart if it weren't more metaphorical.

I thought it was pretty much Yes in all but name, but I don't know. Aside from the name, the cover looks very Yes too.

I'm not contesting her love of the album. Maybe i'm pedantic, but it's not Yes. It was not called Yes because Chris Squire was not there. 

The album covers Roger dean did for Uriah Heep have the same Yes vibe. Even the Asia - Aria cover album Dean did could be a Yes album cover. 


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 04 2023 at 09:44
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by omphaloskepsis omphaloskepsis wrote:

ABWH gets my vote, too.  Top ten YES album in my heart. I adore it.

It's not a Yes album. It would have 'Yes" on the cover, wouldn't it? Geek


Sorry to butt in, but the album wouldn't have to have Yes on the cover for it be a Yes album according to Cindy's heart. A cardiologist might confirm if Yes is written/ branded on Cindy's heart if it weren't more metaphorical.

I thought it was pretty much Yes in all but name, but I don't know. Aside from the name, the cover looks very Yes too.


I'm not contesting her love of the album. Maybe i'm pedantic, but it's not Yes. It was not called Yes because Chris Squire was not there. 

The album covers Roger dean did for Uriah Heep have the same Yes vibe. Even the Asia - Aria cover album Dean did could be a Yes album cover. 



I mean that I think that it can be Yes in her heart without actually being Yes.   If it quacks like a Yes and walks like a Yes from her hearty perception, then to her heart it can be Yes enough for me not to have a problem with it. You're being more literal than I would be. This is a matter of the heart, and the metaphorical heart need not be logical or pedantic. That's for the head as it is said.


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: April 04 2023 at 09:54
^ Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe has always been a genuine YES album to me too - even though it doesn't include Chris Squire - in just the same way as The Quest (2021) and Mirror to the Sky (2023) are bona fide YES albums, even though the only original member is Steve Howe. My favourite YES album by far is The Quest, although some may say my heart is in the wrong place. Tongue


Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: April 04 2023 at 10:13
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

1. Tears for Fears
2. Kenso
3. Isidurs Bane
4. Outer Limits
5. Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe

Sorry Paul, but your #1 is pretty laughable top Progressive Rock album for 1989, even considering it's based on Wikipedia's timeline. Embarrassed



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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: April 04 2023 at 10:26
^ Have you actually listened to his # 1? It's certainly not just plain pop, and far more interesting than quite a few other albums in the poll. Maybe not prog rock, but smart art pop/progressive pop. I really like it myself.


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: April 04 2023 at 10:27
Season's End closely followed by Are You Sitting Comfortably.

(Not a fan of AWBH either Smile)


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: April 04 2023 at 10:30
Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

1. Tears for Fears
2. Kenso
3. Isidurs Bane
4. Outer Limits
5. Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe

Sorry Paul, but your #1 is pretty laughable top Progressive Rock album for 1989, even considering it's based on Wikipedia's timeline. Embarrassed

The Seeds of Love is the only 5-star album for me in this poll, so it was an obvious choice for the #1 slot, although it'd be a Mad World indeed if Tears for Fears were classed as a prog band here at ProgArchives. Still, stranger things have happened. Wink


Posted By: omphaloskepsis
Date Posted: April 04 2023 at 10:37
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

^ Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe has always been a genuine YES album to me too - even though it doesn't include Chris Squire - in just the same way as The Quest (2021) and Mirror to the Sky (2023) are bona fide YES albums, even though the only original member is Steve Howe. My favourite YES album by far is The Quest, although some may say my heart is in the wrong place. Tongue


That's the beautiful thing about YES.  Every album can end up as your favorite.  Depends on the fan.  
I adore The Big Generator and ABWH.  Some folks dig Drama.  Other's go for the Quest.  I imagine "Mirror to the Sky" will wurm it's way into the hearts of others. 

Of course ABWH is a genuine YES album.  How many musicians have been members of YES?  ABWH had four members from it's Fragile/CTTE line up. Like Meat Loaf said, "Two out of three ain't bad"... if true, then Four out of five must be much better. 


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: April 04 2023 at 10:47
Originally posted by omphaloskepsis omphaloskepsis wrote:

Of course ABWH is a genuine YES album.  How many musicians have been members of YES?  ABWH has four members from it's Fragile/CTTE line up. Like Meat Loaf said, "Two out of three ain't bad"... if true, then Four out of five is much better. 

How is it genuine when even the musicians did not release it under the Yes name?! 
I read long ago that it was released under ABWH out of respect for Chris Squire, because he had been the heart and soul of the band, the driving force behind it. I can understand that. 


Posted By: Big Sky
Date Posted: April 04 2023 at 10:48
ABWH. Always liked Brother of Mine, Birthright and Order of the Universe. Teakbois is bad, like Circus of Heaven bad. The rest is decent enough though. I listened to the album often when it first came out. Solid effort overall.

Tears for Fears is not really Prog, but this was a good pop album. Kings X Gretchen Goes to Nebraska is the best album they did. They deserved a bigger stage than they ever received.

I have Rush's Presto, but it's a mediocre album. It's part of a run of mediocre releases by Rush that began with Hold Your Fire.


Posted By: omphaloskepsis
Date Posted: April 04 2023 at 10:57
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by omphaloskepsis omphaloskepsis wrote:

Of course ABWH is a genuine YES album.  How many musicians have been members of YES?  ABWH has four members from it's Fragile/CTTE line up. Like Meat Loaf said, "Two out of three ain't bad"... if true, then Four out of five is much better. 

How is it genuine when even the musicians did not release it under the Yes name?! 
I read long ago that it was released under ABWH out of respect for Chris Squire, because he had been the heart and soul of the band, the driving force behind it. I can understand that. 

 

I defer to Shakespeare-  "A rose by any other name would smell as sweet"


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: April 04 2023 at 11:07
Originally posted by omphaloskepsis omphaloskepsis wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by omphaloskepsis omphaloskepsis wrote:

Of course ABWH is a genuine YES album.  How many musicians have been members of YES?  ABWH has four members from it's Fragile/CTTE line up. Like Meat Loaf said, "Two out of three ain't bad"... if true, then Four out of five is much better. 

How is it genuine when even the musicians did not release it under the Yes name?! 
I read long ago that it was released under ABWH out of respect for Chris Squire, because he had been the heart and soul of the band, the driving force behind it. I can understand that. 
I defer to Shakespeare-  "A rose by any other name would smell as sweet"

again, the project was called ABWH, let's leave it as that. 


Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: April 04 2023 at 11:11
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by omphaloskepsis omphaloskepsis wrote:

Of course ABWH is a genuine YES album.  How many musicians have been members of YES?  ABWH has four members from it's Fragile/CTTE line up. Like Meat Loaf said, "Two out of three ain't bad"... if true, then Four out of five is much better. 

How is it genuine when even the musicians did not release it under the Yes name?! 
I read long ago that it was released under ABWH out of respect for Chris Squire, because he had been the heart and soul of the band, the driving force behind it. I can understand that. 
I read today that Squire instructed his lawyers to not let ABWH use the "Yes" name. I like the ABWH album but Bruford's snare sound spoils it for me. Tears For Fears album is good but there's nothing really prog about it so I'm going for ABWH.


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: April 04 2023 at 11:17
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

I read today that Squire instructed his lawyers to not let ABWH use the "Yes" name.

Totally different from what i read... Definitely a wtf moment here... LOL


Posted By: Big Sky
Date Posted: April 04 2023 at 11:22
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by omphaloskepsis omphaloskepsis wrote:

Of course ABWH is a genuine YES album.  How many musicians have been members of YES?  ABWH has four members from it's Fragile/CTTE line up. Like Meat Loaf said, "Two out of three ain't bad"... if true, then Four out of five is much better. 


How is it genuine when even the musicians did not release it under the Yes name?! 
I read long ago that it was released under ABWH out of respect for Chris Squire, because he had been the heart and soul of the band, the driving force behind it. I can understand that. 

I read today that Squire instructed his lawyers to not let ABWH use the "Yes" name. I like the ABWH album but Bruford's snare sound spoils it for me. Tears For Fears album is good but there's nothing really prog about it so I'm going for ABWH.


Correct. There was a lawsuit that was filed to prevent ABWH from using the name "Yes" in any of its promotional material for the tour. In June, 1989 a U.S. District Court Judge ruled in ABWH favor they could refer to their heritage and material to promote the tour.


Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: April 04 2023 at 11:35
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

1. Tears for Fears
2. Kenso
3. Isidurs Bane
4. Outer Limits
5. Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe
Sorry Paul, but your #1 is pretty laughable top Progressive Rock album for 1989, even considering it's based on Wikipedia's timeline. Embarrassed
The Seeds of Love is the only 5-star album for me in this poll, so it was an obvious choice for the #1 slot, although it'd be a Mad World indeed if Tears for Fears were classed as a prog band here at ProgArchives. Still, stranger things have happened. Wink

Thanks for your explanation, Paul, and sorry again for getting a bit angry, but to me it's a matter of respect for Progressive Rock. Smile
 


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Posted By: Steve Wyzard
Date Posted: April 04 2023 at 13:19
ABWH > Saga > Tears for Fears > Marillion > Rush.


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: April 04 2023 at 13:33
Originally posted by omphaloskepsis omphaloskepsis wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

^ Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe has always been a genuine YES album to me too - even though it doesn't include Chris Squire - in just the same way as The Quest (2021) and Mirror to the Sky (2023) are bona fide YES albums, even though the only original member is Steve Howe. My favourite YES album by far is The Quest, although some may say my heart is in the wrong place. Tongue


That's the beautiful thing about YES.  Every album can end up as your favorite.  Depends on the fan.  
I adore The Big Generator and ABWH.  Some folks dig Drama.  Other's go for the Quest.  I imagine "Mirror to the Sky" will wurm it's way into the hearts of others. 

Of course ABWH is a genuine YES album.  How many musicians have been members of YES?  ABWH had four members from it's Fragile/CTTE line up. Like Meat Loaf said, "Two out of three ain't bad"... if true, then Four out of five must be much better. 
Yes indeed! Four out of five ain't bad at all, but whenever I hear people say present-day YES is a pale imitation of classic YES, I feel every day a little sadder, maybe even a little madder, someone get me The Ladder album instead. Tongue


Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: April 04 2023 at 14:34
Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Thanks for your explanation, Paul, and sorry again for getting a bit angry, but to me it's a matter of respect for Progressive Rock. Smile

The positive side of it, I take you a bit seriously. Big smile



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Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: April 04 2023 at 16:11
Thinking Plague > Ozric Tentacles > ABWH

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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: April 04 2023 at 17:20
So many great albums here but I gotta go with my favourite Metal band Fates Warning.
Next five in no order are by:
King's X
Marillion
Djam Karet
Art Zoyd
Thinking Plague


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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: April 04 2023 at 18:54
1. KING'S X Gretchen Goes to Nebraska (about as perfect a rock album as one can imagine) / DJAM KARET Reflections from the Firepool (a masterpiece) (tie)
2. KENSO Sparta / FATES WARNING Perfect Symmetry (tie)
3. OZRIC TENTACLES Pungent EffulgentDREAM THEATER When Dream and Day Unite (tie)
4. NUOVA ERA Dopo L'Infinito / ART ZOYD Nosferatu (tie)
5. RUSH Presto / ANDERSON, BRUFORD, WAKEMAN, HOWE (they're not consistent as previous releases, but have some fine songs) (tie)


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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: April 05 2023 at 08:19
ABWH


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Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: April 05 2023 at 08:41
Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:


ABWH


Seems pretty popular!!

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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 05 2023 at 09:38
Originally posted by essexboyinwales essexboyinwales wrote:

Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:


ABWH


Seems pretty popular!!


It does, although that might also be because not enough of the other releases are known or considered strong or are as mainstream Prog audience. It definitely does have fans, but a very middling rating at PA (3.19) with 399 ratings. If it weren't a Yes album essentially, let me rephrase that, almost a Yes album in various ways essentially, then I wonder how popular it would be (like if Univers Zero came out with that -- I tend to think Univers Zero might be more popular than it is)
I don't mind it (even quite like it), and am not surprised that people like it, I'm just more into other stuff from the time -- not just so-called avant prog like Cardiacs' On Land and in the Sea (which should have been the representative but darned wiki bad timeline) and Thinking Plague, but more mainstream music like The Cure's Disintegration for instance.


Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: April 05 2023 at 15:00
This was a great period for me musically - I was late teens and getting heavily into rock music. King’s X were my favourite band at this time and could do no wrong in my eyes!

But Faith No More with The Real Thing would have been a very strong contender this year too. And Can’t Look Away by Trevor Rabin - and I had no idea at the time that he had been involved with Yes….

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Posted By: woelfman
Date Posted: April 05 2023 at 19:13
I have to go with Marillion>Fates Warning>Jethro Tull>Rush>ABWH.  Not a great year for prog.  However, Season's End is my favorite post-Fish Marillion album and imho probably equal to the Fish-era albums.


Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: April 06 2023 at 02:18

If looking at PA's toplist for 1989, the three highest ranked albums are:

1. Cardiacs (UK) - On Land and in the Sea  -  4.38 from 173 ratings

2. Voivod (CAN) - Nothingface  -  4.26 from 353 ratings

3. Fates Warning (USA) - Perfect Symmetry  -  4.13 from 456 ratings


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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: April 06 2023 at 02:51

RYM says:

1. Cardiacs (UK) - On Land and in the Sea  -  3.77 from 1,551 ratings

2. Marillion (UK) - Seasons End  -  3.64 from 1,585 ratings

3. Devil Doll (Slovenia) - The Girl Who Was...Death  -  3.60 from 1,168 ratings

(with popularity weighting on 4)



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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: April 06 2023 at 03:00
^ RYM's chart rundown looks much more appealing to me than PA's list, although I've yet to hear a Cardiacs album I'd want to listen to a second time. Confused


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: April 06 2023 at 03:12
https://www.progarchives.com/top-prog-albums.asp?ssubgenres=&salbumtypes=1&syears=1989&scountries=&sminratings=0&smaxratings=0&sminavgratings=0&smaxresults=100&x=53&y=7#list" rel="nofollow - https://www.progarchives.com/top-prog-albums.asp?ssubgenres=&salbumtypes=1&syears=1989&scountries=&sminratings=0&smaxratings=0&sminavgratings=0&smaxresults=100&x=53&y=7#list


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: April 06 2023 at 03:25
My five favourite prog albums from this year aren't included in PA's Top 27 list for 1989, so no surprise there again. Confused


Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: April 06 2023 at 03:38
Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

RYM says:

1. Cardiacs (UK) - On Land and in the Sea  -  3.77 from 1,551 ratings

2. Marillion (UK) - Seasons End  -  3.64 from 1,585 ratings

3. Devil Doll (Slovenia) - The Girl Who Was...Death  -  3.60 from 1,168 ratings

(with popularity weighting on 4)

BUT        
Voivod (CAN) - Nothingface  -  3.82 from 4,060 ratings



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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: April 06 2023 at 03:46
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

My five favourite prog albums from this year aren't included in PA's Top 27 list for 1989, so no surprise there again. Confused

Well, my is #17, and I'm still struggling a bit with Nothingface, so I can't yet really consider it as one of my faves, 
but it's the highest rated 1989 album on RYM+PA, so I wouldn't mind if it also could be one of my faves. Big smile

Edit: That is btw not quite sure, as it could be another or even more Metal albums - but not Prog Metal.


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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: April 06 2023 at 04:50
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

My five favourite prog albums from this year aren't included in PA's Top 27 list for 1989, so no surprise there again. Confused

One of these five is very fortunately not included at all, and I can't imagine it otherwise than it has been put on Wikipedia's timeline 
by mistake. Big smile


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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: April 06 2023 at 05:19
My favourite 1989 albums from PA's Top 30 albums chart:-

4 stars 1989: Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVPGzOHIIgz9mrbq0cYIASUPCn7d20-Dy" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVPGzOHIIgz9mrbq0cYIASUPCn7d20-Dy
4 stars 1989: Kate Bush - The Sensual World -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LtBgK6fG7MP0Ucp5i_0PmMp" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LtBgK6fG7MP0Ucp5i_0PmMp
4 stars 1989: Devil Doll - The Girl Who Was... Death -  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYdcApobjTY&t=497s" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYdcApobjTY&t=497s
4 stars 1989: Peter Gabriel - Passion (soundtrack) -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEYfGmIinkpf7Ivicuuu69PS" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEYfGmIinkpf7Ivicuuu69PS
4 stars 1989: Hecenia - Legendes -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_laqD3eyujzmDwnSpqoWwGWbjSClYyS9Yk" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_laqD3eyujzmDwnSpqoWwGWbjSClYyS9Yk
3 stars 1989: Horizont - The Portrait of a Boy -  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ygZUT944O0&t=983s" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ygZUT944O0&t=983s
4 stars 1989: Isidurs Bane - Cheval: Volonte de Rocher -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lJBD2unN_8WGxFyGl6QSZD-ZcC-QrTjN8" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lJBD2unN_8WGxFyGl6QSZD-ZcC-QrTjN8
3 stars 1989: It Bites - Eat Me in St. Louis -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL03230F6D575D8F9F" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL03230F6D575D8F9F
4 stars 1989: Marillion - Seasons End -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kQHRjpWTI8dbqeasPZrSmO69_gHW9wM2k" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kQHRjpWTI8dbqeasPZrSmO69_gHW9wM2k
4 stars 1989: Nuova Era - Dopo L'Infinito -  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdSgloZdSNE" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdSgloZdSNE
4 stars 1989: Shamall - Journey to a Nightmare -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kgc7ACFgiKPpyKO7m2scYmxUSTzTBNvX8" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kgc7ACFgiKPpyKO7m2scYmxUSTzTBNvX8
4 stars 1989: Yezda Urfa - Sacred Baboon -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mfj29rbSMPjIte518hQmvYzTwbXiGSXqk" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mfj29rbSMPjIte518hQmvYzTwbXiGSXqk


Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: April 06 2023 at 06:14
My favorites from PA's Top 25 for 1989

Thinking Plague - In This Life
Cardiacs - On Land & In The Sea
Ozric Tentacles - Pungent Effulgent
Voivod - Nothingface
Djam Karet - Reflections From The Firepool


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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: April 06 2023 at 06:40
Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

My favorites from PA's Top 25 for 1989
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Voivod - Nothingface
Djam Karet - Reflections From The Firepool

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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: April 06 2023 at 08:49

Actually, Reflections from the Firepool is one of my very most fave Prog albums from the '80s, and ranked as #7 on RYM's 
Progressive Rock chart for 1989 (with popularity weighting on 4) - and even got 3 stars from Paul. Big smile







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Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: April 06 2023 at 09:32
Seasons End - Marillion's best album.

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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: April 06 2023 at 10:12
Originally posted by Hercules Hercules wrote:

Seasons End - Marillion's best album.

wow, that's a unique opinion. Smile


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: April 06 2023 at 10:32
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Hercules Hercules wrote:

Seasons End - Marillion's best album.

wow, that's a unique opinion. Smile
A Monstrously Festive(al) Christmas is Marillion's best album - another unique opinion. Smile


Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: April 06 2023 at 10:34
Psychedelic Paul, another (very) unique opinionator…..

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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: April 06 2023 at 10:48
Originally posted by essexboyinwales essexboyinwales wrote:

This was a great period for me musically - I was late teens and getting heavily into rock music. King’s X were my favourite band at this time and could do no wrong in my eyes!

But Faith No More with The Real Thing would have been a very strong contender this year too. And Can’t Look Away by Trevor Rabin - and I had no idea at the time that he had been involved with Yes….

FNM probably don't have much pull with this crowd. The Real Thing isn't on par with Gretchen, either. FNM's next album, Angel Dust, became their masterwork. Both KX and FNM have devoted followings but never hit the big time because they'e just too "out there" for the mainstream.


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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: April 06 2023 at 12:51
Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

RYM says:

1. Cardiacs (UK) - On Land and in the Sea  -  3.77 from 1,551 ratings

2. Marillion (UK) - Seasons End  -  3.64 from 1,585 ratings

3. Devil Doll (Slovenia) - The Girl Who Was...Death  -  3.60 from 1,168 ratings

(with popularity weighting on 4)
BUT        
Voivod (CAN) - Nothingface  -  3.82 from 4,060 ratings

If an explanation needed, my first search only concerned "Progressive Rock" which on RYM doesn't include any Metal - sorry.



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Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: April 06 2023 at 12:57
Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by essexboyinwales essexboyinwales wrote:

This was a great period for me musically - I was late teens and getting heavily into rock music. King’s X were my favourite band at this time and could do no wrong in my eyes!

But Faith No More with The Real Thing would have been a very strong contender this year too. And Can’t Look Away by Trevor Rabin - and I had no idea at the time that he had been involved with Yes….


FNM probably don't have much pull with this crowd. The Real Thing isn't on par with Gretchen, either. FNM's next album, Angel Dust, became their masterwork. Both KX and FNM have devoted followings but never hit the big time because they'e just too "out there" for the mainstream.


I can only disagree strongly and counter that The Real Thing was FNM’s masterwork by some distance!!🤘😊

But I do agree that both bands were unique, and definitely deserved better….

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Posted By: ProkMan78
Date Posted: April 06 2023 at 13:33
In my opinion far from a good year in prog but if I had to say, Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe.
I also have to ask why Tears for Fears - The Seeds of Love is on the list?


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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: April 06 2023 at 13:43
Originally posted by ProkMan78 ProkMan78 wrote:

In my opinion far from a good year in prog but if I had to say, Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe.
I also have to ask why Tears for Fears - The Seeds of Love is on the list?
Simply because Tears for Fears are listed on Wikipedia's Timeline of Progressive Rock, which I've been using as a reference for this series of polls. Smile


Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: April 06 2023 at 14:06
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by ProkMan78 ProkMan78 wrote:

In my opinion far from a good year in prog but if I had to say, Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe.
I also have to ask why Tears for Fears - The Seeds of Love is on the list?
Simply because Tears for Fears are listed on Wikipedia's Timeline of Progressive Rock, which I've been using as a reference for this series of polls. Smile

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

... I can't imagine it otherwise than it has been put on Wikipedia's timeline by mistake. Big smile

....as Tears for Fears in no way are considered to be Progressive Rock in Wikipedia's article about the band. 


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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: April 06 2023 at 14:41

But okay, accidents happen - ask Elvis Costello. Smile


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Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: April 07 2023 at 00:41
King's X


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: April 07 2023 at 01:17
Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by ProkMan78 ProkMan78 wrote:

In my opinion far from a good year in prog but if I had to say, Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe.
I also have to ask why Tears for Fears - The Seeds of Love is on the list?
Simply because Tears for Fears are listed on Wikipedia's Timeline of Progressive Rock, which I've been using as a reference for this series of polls. Smile

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

... I can't imagine it otherwise than it has been put on Wikipedia's timeline by mistake. Big smile

....as Tears for Fears in no way are considered to be Progressive Rock in Wikipedia's article about the band. 
Tears for Fears are listed as Art Pop on RateYourMusic, in just the same way as Kate Bush and Tori Amos are Art Pop, so from that perspective, maybe Tears for Fears could be considered for inclusion here at PA under Crossover Prog. Wink


Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: April 07 2023 at 07:32
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Tears for Fears are listed as Art Pop on RateYourMusic,....

Not so exactly. RYM states as general genres for TFF:
"Genres
https://rateyourmusic.com/genre/pop-rock/" rel="nofollow - Pop Rock ,  https://rateyourmusic.com/genre/synthpop/" rel="nofollow - Synthpop ,  https://rateyourmusic.com/genre/new-wave/" rel="nofollow - New Wave ,  https://rateyourmusic.com/genre/art-pop/" rel="nofollow - Art Pop ,  https://rateyourmusic.com/genre/sophisti-pop/" rel="nofollow - Sophisti-Pop ,  https://rateyourmusic.com/genre/big-music/" rel="nofollow - Big Music "  

which means, Art Pop has 4th priority. Wink



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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: April 07 2023 at 07:39
Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Tears for Fears are listed as Art Pop on RateYourMusic,....

Not so exactly. RYM states as general genres for TFF:
"Genres
https://rateyourmusic.com/genre/pop-rock/" rel="nofollow - Pop Rock ,  https://rateyourmusic.com/genre/synthpop/" rel="nofollow - Synthpop ,  https://rateyourmusic.com/genre/new-wave/" rel="nofollow - New Wave ,  https://rateyourmusic.com/genre/art-pop/" rel="nofollow - Art Pop ,  https://rateyourmusic.com/genre/sophisti-pop/" rel="nofollow - Sophisti-Pop ,  https://rateyourmusic.com/genre/big-music/" rel="nofollow - Big Music "  

which means, Art Pop has 4th priority. Wink

That sounds about right. I'd list Tears for Fears primarily as Pop/Rock too, but I've never heard of a sub-genre called "Big Music" before, although I suppose Big Music could apply if you've got something to Shout about...



Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: April 07 2023 at 08:05
Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:


But okay, accidents happen - ask Elvis Costello. Smile

Well, you could try to change this on Wikipedia. That's the idea of that site, isn't it? Have fun with that! Evil Smile


Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: April 07 2023 at 08:10
Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

But okay, accidents happen - ask Elvis Costello. Smile

Well, you could try to change this on Wikipedia. That's the idea of that site, isn't it? Have fun with that! Evil Smile

Actually, I've thought about writing to them about the general problem of putting bands on their timeline even they're not considered to be Prog in their articles about those bands.



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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: April 07 2023 at 08:15
Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

But okay, accidents happen - ask Elvis Costello. Smile

Well, you could try to change this on Wikipedia. That's the idea of that site, isn't it? Have fun with that! Evil Smile

Actually, I've thought about writing to them about the general problem of putting bands on their timeline even they're not considered to be Prog in their articles about those bands.


I don't think this is the way to do it. I don't think there's anyone who would change that for you, in Wikipedia people have to do it themselves. Although probably raising this on the article's discussion/talk page would be a start (if you don't establish it there, chances are it won't survive the night, although this may well also happen if you give proper reasons first - I had set the devil smiley because changing Wikipedia isn't as easy as people think who have never tried to do it).


Posted By: Awesoreno
Date Posted: April 07 2023 at 21:55
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by ProkMan78 ProkMan78 wrote:

In my opinion far from a good year in prog but if I had to say, Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe.
I also have to ask why Tears for Fears - The Seeds of Love is on the list?
Simply because Tears for Fears are listed on Wikipedia's Timeline of Progressive Rock, which I've been using as a reference for this series of polls. Smile

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

... I can't imagine it otherwise than it has been put on Wikipedia's timeline by mistake. Big smile

....as Tears for Fears in no way are considered to be Progressive Rock in Wikipedia's article about the band. 
Tears for Fears are listed as Art Pop on RateYourMusic, in just the same way as Kate Bush and Tori Amos are Art Pop, so from that perspective, maybe Tears for Fears could be considered for inclusion here at PA under Crossover Prog. Wink
If they had made more albums like Sowing... and Raoul..., they could MAYBE qualify for prog related. Probably not crossover.


Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: April 08 2023 at 03:39
Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Actually, I've thought about writing to [Wikipedia] about the general problem of putting bands on their timeline even they're not considered to be Prog in their articles about those bands.

I don't think this is the way to do it. I don't think there's anyone who would change that for you, in Wikipedia people have to do it themselves. Although probably raising this on the article's discussion/talk page would be a start (if you don't establish it there, chances are it won't survive the night, although this may well also happen if you give proper reasons first - I had set the devil smiley because changing Wikipedia isn't as easy as people think who have never tried to do it).

Anyway, Wikipedia looses a bit of its credibility in this case, and in fact, the same problem occurs on Wikipedia's "List of progressive rock artists".


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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: May 02 2023 at 10:54
PA's Top 60 Progressive Rock Albums of 1989 

https://www.progarchives.com/top-prog-albums.asp?ssubgenres=&syears=1989&scountries=&sminratings=10&smaxratings=0&sminavgratings=2&smaxresults=250&x=60&y=8#list" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/top-prog-albums.asp?ssubgenres=&syears=1989&scountries=&sminratings=10&smaxratings=0&sminavgratings=2&smaxresults=250&x=60&y=8#list

01. 1 stars 1989: Cardiacs - On Land and in the Sea -  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VS84LncECBU" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VS84LncECBU
02. 1 stars 1989: Voivod - Nothingface -  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5TnV09-n9A" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5TnV09-n9A
03. 3 stars 1989: Fates Warning - Perfect Symmetry -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lDFacxiUoooRs-MD421_JmqUm6dWsysMk" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lDFacxiUoooRs-MD421_JmqUm6dWsysMk
04. 4 stars 1989: Peter Gabriel - Passion (soundtrack) -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEYfGmIinkpf7Ivicuuu69PS" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEYfGmIinkpf7Ivicuuu69PS
05. 3 stars 1989: Pazzo Fanfano di Musica - Pazzo Fanfano di Musica -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoUp30ZoFQ5ZHy6Dr14JHa4KXDfz53ytR" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoUp30ZoFQ5ZHy6Dr14JHa4KXDfz53ytR
06. 2 stars 1989: Watchtower - Control and Resistance -  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4h5L2Ooy5w" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4h5L2Ooy5w
07. 3 stars 1989: Savatage - Gutter Ballet -  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uibrkv7bcQk" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uibrkv7bcQk
08. 4 stars 1989: Yezda Urfa - Sacred Baboon -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mfj29rbSMPjIte518hQmvYzTwbXiGSXqk" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mfj29rbSMPjIte518hQmvYzTwbXiGSXqk
09. 2 stars 1989: Thinking Plague - In This Life -  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQX0jnzoduI" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQX0jnzoduI
10. 3 stars 1989: Horizont - The Portrait of a Boy -  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ygZUT944O0&t=983s" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ygZUT944O0&t=983s
11. 4 stars 1989: Marillion - Seasons End -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kQHRjpWTI8dbqeasPZrSmO69_gHW9wM2k" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kQHRjpWTI8dbqeasPZrSmO69_gHW9wM2k
12. 4 stars 1989: Devil Doll - The Girl Who Was... Death -  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYdcApobjTY&t=497s" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYdcApobjTY&t=497s
13. 4 stars 1989: Social Tension - Macbethia -  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6ml1zRhNns" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6ml1zRhNns
14. 3 stars 1989: Ozric Tentacles - Pungent Effulgent -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mlyt4rI5QF7rpd8edDglGVNIlxvMx7p9U" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mlyt4rI5QF7rpd8edDglGVNIlxvMx7p9U
15. 4 stars 1989: Hecenia - Legendes -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_laqD3eyujzmDwnSpqoWwGWbjSClYyS9Yk" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_laqD3eyujzmDwnSpqoWwGWbjSClYyS9Yk
16. 3 stars 1989: Steve Morse - High Tension Wires -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_napv4io0Ox3pA6-hdn2Q7BG-aAl6MCnlQ" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_napv4io0Ox3pA6-hdn2Q7BG-aAl6MCnlQ
17. 2 stars 1989: Magma - Mekanik Kommandoh -  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2aNSTwewQE&t=1880s" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2aNSTwewQE&t=1880s
18. 3 stars 1989: Allan Holdsworth - Secrets -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lDKzKLwFlgyiSZytWO6awM9qcjt2cZERc" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lDKzKLwFlgyiSZytWO6awM9qcjt2cZERc
19. 3 stars 1989: Djam Karet - Reflections from the Firepool
20. 2 stars 1989: Banda Elastica - Banda Elastica 2 -  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mp3TGKT8nk" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mp3TGKT8nk
21. 3 stars 1989: Oregon - 45th Parallel -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXn7BlZGPonZkGgWsBwNzQpGYi1yT1YIx" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXn7BlZGPonZkGgWsBwNzQpGYi1yT1YIx            
22. 4 stars 1989: Kenso - Sparta -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kiwgIAEbRSZjpZN-o9s5tLf_sAgNayDjo" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kiwgIAEbRSZjpZN-o9s5tLf_sAgNayDjo
23. 2 stars 1989: Art Zoyd - Nosferatu -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nafkHAbWtOce7Tomn-KuHBo_QVS9KuABk" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nafkHAbWtOce7Tomn-KuHBo_QVS9KuABk
24. 2 stars 1989: Dunaj - Iva Bittova + Dunaj -  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COku89RbJjE" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COku89RbJjE
25. 3 stars 1989: Marian Varga - Vsetko je Inak -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lhujlJlahYzeJ3NSxp4KKvxVVCI20R92s" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lhujlJlahYzeJ3NSxp4KKvxVVCI20R92s
26. 3 stars 1989: John Abercrombie - Animato 
27. 2 stars 1989: The Legendary Pink Dots - The Golden Age -  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2OiSxuzhc4" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2OiSxuzhc4
28. 3 stars 1989: Tangle Edge - In Search of a New Dawn
29. 4 stars 1989: Iconoclasta - Adolescencia Cronica -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7rF8RFT8aWLTktJ8f8hVtPqmXkv9Xw5J" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7rF8RFT8aWLTktJ8f8hVtPqmXkv9Xw5J
30. 3 stars 1989: High Tide - Precious Cargo -  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddB9XWPGAK0" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddB9XWPGAK0
31. 2 stars 1989: Fulano - En El Bunker -  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOZVskcU924" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOZVskcU924
32. 4 stars 1989: Shamall - Journey to a Nightmare -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kgc7ACFgiKPpyKO7m2scYmxUSTzTBNvX8" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kgc7ACFgiKPpyKO7m2scYmxUSTzTBNvX8
33. 3 stars 1989: Bill Frisell - Before We Were Born -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mS94-ZZiWOXxu_W2t56qlHpQIYlsS082M" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mS94-ZZiWOXxu_W2t56qlHpQIYlsS082M
34. 2 stars 1989: Opus Avantra - Strata -  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnavInQ5fP8" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnavInQ5fP8
35. 3 stars 1989: Kerry Livgren - One of Several Possible Musiks -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLe9HB-KsZdH87DOdXGIoV_EQtEDtgzZ_7" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLe9HB-KsZdH87DOdXGIoV_EQtEDtgzZ_7
36. 4 stars 1989: Clannad - The Angel and the Soldier Boy -  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8YSSJhpXXw" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8YSSJhpXXw
37. 1 stars 1989: Current 93 - Crooked Crosses for the Nodding God -  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbiNrPZyO-k" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbiNrPZyO-k
38. 3 stars 1989: Amon Duul - Fool Moon -  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyswTQ05FFU" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyswTQ05FFU
39. 3 stars 1989: Material - Seven Souls -  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTElpGptLuU" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTElpGptLuU
40. 3 stars 1989: Ralph Towner - City of Eyes
41. 4 stars 1989: Pageant - The Pay for Dreamer's Sin -  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HR1o2mdItm8" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HR1o2mdItm8
42. 4 stars 1989: Kate Bush - The Sensual World -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LtBgK6fG7MP0Ucp5i_0PmMp" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LtBgK6fG7MP0Ucp5i_0PmMp
43. 5 stars 1989: Vermillion Sands - Water Blue -  http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mofl52rWXKWFD3avEMR4ffsDvlpqrG1KY" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mofl52rWXKWFD3avEMR4ffsDvlpqrG1KY
44. 2 stars 1989: Miles Davis - Aura -  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-2i3jkYB4A" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-2i3jkYB4A
45. 3 stars 1989: Uzeb - Uzeb Club -  http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_knTf-ftQvht2ZM6xC8i_3ZhvO0LL7bUD0" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_knTf-ftQvht2ZM6xC8i_3ZhvO0LL7bUD0
46. 3 stars 1989: Jeff Beck - Jeff Beck's Guitar Shop -  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2RqU6KJsYA" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2RqU6KJsYA
47. 3 stars 1989: Ozric Tentacles - The Bits Between the Bits -  http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nPfzI7OlFjmZ0izx10mYikIAb7kImWq0k" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nPfzI7OlFjmZ0izx10mYikIAb7kImWq0k
48. 3 stars 1989: Opus-5 - Serieux ou Pas -  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktO-4VDB53Y" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktO-4VDB53Y
49. 3 stars 1989: Heir Apparent - One Small Voice -  http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mK89RjbUpiI9-WezfQTNywtu6O94v_fQU" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mK89RjbUpiI9-WezfQTNywtu6O94v_fQU
50. 1 stars 1989: Boredoms - Soul Discharge -  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3f1TPVEiVc" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3f1TPVEiVc
51. 1 stars 1989: Vezhlivy Otkaz - Polite Refusal
52. 2 stars 1989: Mikhal Propop & Framus 5 - Snad Nam Nase Deti -  http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kK9NKshNEUuvKVhR7bJ6tg1Ppir3eadiI" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kK9NKshNEUuvKVhR7bJ6tg1Ppir3eadiI
53. 3 stars 1989: Swans - The Burning World -  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQeAXXcQ1As" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQeAXXcQ1As
54. 3 stars 1989: Ange - Seve Qui Peut -  http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mWLQWVY_cD4YM4vFhwJm7jg3j5IvAn5R0" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mWLQWVY_cD4YM4vFhwJm7jg3j5IvAn5R0
55. 4 stars 1989: Nuova Era - Dopo L'Infinito -  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdSgloZdSNE" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdSgloZdSNE
56. 3 stars 1989: Jack Bruce - A Question of Time -  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDnZC6FcSzw" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDnZC6FcSzw
57. 3 stars 1989: Steve Tibbets - Big Map Idea 
58. 2 stars 1989: Nine Inch Nails - Pretty Hate Machine - 
59. 4 stars 1989: Utopian Fields - Utopian Fields -  http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lpmxKR_wR9K2J7D_OuY26opHUr9eYBMPE" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lpmxKR_wR9K2J7D_OuY26opHUr9eYBMPE
60. 4 stars 1989: Ashra - Walkin' the Desert -  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdRm1CmQYIk" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdRm1CmQYIk




Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 27 2023 at 01:42
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

I've never understood the love for ABWH. Confused

A pleasing win for Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe, although admittedly, I'm surprised to see one of my 4-star albums winning a poll for once. Tongue


Posted By: Octopus II
Date Posted: October 27 2023 at 01:56
Marillion - Seasons End
Jethro Tull - Rock Island
Tears For Fears - The Seeds Of Love
IQ - Are You Sitting Comfortably?


Posted By: Hector Enrique
Date Posted: October 27 2023 at 02:08
1. Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe
2. Queen - The Miracle
3. Rush - Presto
4. Fates Warning - Perfect Symmetry


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Héctor Enrique



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