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Topic: Songs a la YYZ
Posted By: Negoba
Subject: Songs a la YYZ
Date Posted: March 26 2023 at 18:43
I'm looking for some bands / albums / songs with the following characteristics:

Instrumental
Guitar heavy but not necessarily metal
Keyboards an important element
Complex rhythms 
Composed themes rather than jams

a la YYZ or La Villa Strangiato

Developing a band project and trying to find recordings to use as reference mixes. 



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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: March 26 2023 at 19:09
French band 1980 comes to mind, CD from '07, hard to find, mine is ... somewhere Cry  --

http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=19150" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=19150




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Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: March 26 2023 at 19:16
Just recently, I started a thread titled " http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=130610" rel="nofollow - Little Masterpieces " in which YYZ was one of the examples.
 



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Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: March 26 2023 at 20:08
Look through the catalogs of Djam Karet and Ovrfwrd. DK has been around for nearly 40 years with a diverse catalog on tunes.

This one might fit the bill.



Ovrfwrd is a newer band with 5 albums.



Also look into aome jazz rock fusion that's more on the rock side, such as the Fire Merchants formed by Brand X guitarist John Goodsall and Genesis touring drummer Chester Thompson.



Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: March 26 2023 at 20:19
Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:

Also look into some jazz rock fusion that's more on the rock side, such as the Fire Merchants formed by Brand X guitarist John Goodsall and Genesis touring drummer Chester Thompson.
 
... or some Mahavishnu Orchestra, for example, Birds of Fire:
 
 



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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: March 26 2023 at 20:26
Not necessarily metal... but are you OK if it is metal? I can think of the instrumental Dream Theater songs, and their spin-off Liquid Tension Experiment. I particularly love The Ytse Jam and Stream of Consiousness from DT, and Paradigm Shift, Acid Rain, and Another Dimension from LTE.


Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: March 26 2023 at 20:40
Soft Machine's Bundles album with Allan Holdsworth maybe.



Posted By: Awesoreno
Date Posted: March 26 2023 at 20:43
Nova Collective, every song off their one album.


Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: March 26 2023 at 20:47
What about black midi, for example, John L?
 
 



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Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: March 26 2023 at 21:01
The Nova Collective suggestion reminds me that Haken release instrumental versions of their albums.



Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: March 27 2023 at 02:04
Dream Theater's Black Clouds & Silver Linings special edition also includes a 3rd disc with the full album in instrumental version.


Posted By: PhideauxFan
Date Posted: March 27 2023 at 03:58
Offworld (Belgium) (psychedelic space-rock/metal).

https://tomtee.bandcamp.com/album/some-circles-are-square" rel="nofollow - Some Circles Are Square | Offworld | Tom Tee (bandcamp.com)


Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: March 27 2023 at 06:37
You might like to explore the two https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdGA3wUAo46XLf94Km3Mg3Q" rel="nofollow - Bozzio - Levin - Stevens albums:


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Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: March 27 2023 at 07:38
Thanks everyone, this will give me plenty of material to use. 

If you've ever done mixing and recording, it's helpful to have reference tracks to compare the overall sound. 

I do like metal, and this project skirts on the edge. I'll enjoy listening to all of these artists regardless.

Again, thank you.


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Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: March 27 2023 at 07:50
Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

You might like to explore the two https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdGA3wUAo46XLf94Km3Mg3Q" rel="nofollow - Bozzio - Levin - Stevens albums:
Fully agree, both great instrumental albums!


Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: March 27 2023 at 08:17
Zappa for sure. Many of his instrumental songs/albums fit your criteria. Here is one of my favorites by him.



Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: March 27 2023 at 10:40
You may like Kong from Amsterdam. They're instrumental, guitar riff oriented, and heavy and do some fun things with electronics (I know that wasn't asked for but it may make up for the mostly missing keyboards).



Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: March 27 2023 at 10:52


Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: March 27 2023 at 16:32
A tune I just remembered from 20 years ago. Not a complex riff but a good heavy one, and a good mix IMO. Maximum Indifference is the band’s name.



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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: March 27 2023 at 20:58
Originally posted by Gerinski Gerinski wrote:

Dream Theater's Black Clouds & Silver Linings special edition also includes a 3rd disc with the full album in instrumental version.


I remember listeing to it a few times, until I noticed that, for some reason, they didn't only leave out the vocals, but also the guitar solos (not all guitars, only the solos), and since then I have not bothered with it again.


Posted By: Awesoreno
Date Posted: March 27 2023 at 22:00
Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Zappa for sure. Many of his instrumental songs/albums fit your criteria. Here is one of my favorites by him.


I like the '88 version of this piece the best. If I remember correctly, when The Zappa Band opened for King Crimson when I saw them in LA, they played this track. Very fun.


Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: March 28 2023 at 07:16
Working through all of these. Djam Karet in the car this morning. Nova Collective now. 

Some of these I knew pretty well already. Love Alan Holdsworth with Soft Machine, Mahavishnu, and Zappa though I don't know his later work as well as mid-70s. I know Dream Theater quite well and they are a little more metal than I'm looking for even though I like them for my personal listening.

Plenty more to delve into.

Thanks everyone.


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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: March 28 2023 at 10:28
Glass Hammer - Watchmen On The Walls.






Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: March 28 2023 at 11:46
Shining   "Grindstone"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnPN_YFQjRo&list=OLAK5uy_kPGxbc10Thegi1PVjfDBYBT0QpMZiZ5Zg" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnPN_YFQjRo&list=OLAK5uy_kPGxbc10Thegi1PVjfDBYBT0QpMZiZ5Zg


Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: March 28 2023 at 18:44
Now if you want the essence of 70s and 80s Rush in one instrumental, there's this tribute by YYNOT.




Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: March 28 2023 at 23:42
try this band, they are really solid and totally unknown from Norway

http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=4925


Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: March 29 2023 at 14:48
Originally posted by HolyMoly HolyMoly wrote:

A tune I just remembered from 20 years ago. Not a complex riff but a good heavy one, and a good mix IMO. Maximum Indifference is the band’s name.


I saw them play in 2001. I could be wrong, but that may have been the last time they played together, but they're still friends. I hope they surprise us out of the blue someday with a third album.


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Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: March 30 2023 at 10:38
Originally posted by Awesoreno Awesoreno wrote:

Nova Collective, every song off their one album.

This is my favorite album discovery recently - thank you for recommending!!!


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Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: March 30 2023 at 11:43
(not the biggest fan of an instrumental-only-prog BUT) been digging through my neo-prog downloads from the mid-00s lately and while listening to this particular track I thought to myself "hey that could've been a Rush instrumental from the 80s". Glad to help then!



Posted By: Awesoreno
Date Posted: March 30 2023 at 22:43
Originally posted by Negoba Negoba wrote:

Originally posted by Awesoreno Awesoreno wrote:

Nova Collective, every song off their one album.

This is my favorite album discovery recently - thank you for recommending!!!
Super glad to know! My favorite cut off of that album is probably the one that reminds me most of YYZ, Ripped Apart and Reassembled. At least in spirit, if not in compositional similarity. It has that "fun" factor.



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