William Shatner or the Shaggs?
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Topic: William Shatner or the Shaggs?
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Subject: William Shatner or the Shaggs?
Date Posted: March 10 2023 at 13:29
| I just thought of this while listening (or is torturing myself) by listening to Shatner's take on Mr. Tambourine man. |
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Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: March 10 2023 at 15:17
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Shatner's "Rocket Man" is one of the most legendary pieces of work of the 20th century. ------------- You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: March 10 2023 at 15:28
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I unironically like both, Shatner in small doses, but the Shaggs are more special to me. For amateur kids who's only started learning the instruments, I think they turned a out a genuinely interesting primitivist album. It is of the so bad its good variety, but I came to genuinely love it and not just be amused by it (love the lyrics -- And the skinny people want what the fat people got...). Shatner is great fun. I like his covers. Technically, Shatner is better at what he does, as I think he knowingly achieves more of what he is going for. I think rather than saying the The Shaggs are unintentionally and sincerely bad, one could say that the girls unintentionally created a masterpiece. The world would be lessened without The Philosophy of the World, as I think one can say of Tommy Wiseau's The Room (although The Shaggs knew they were unskilled). I will go with The Shaggs for sure, as Shatner can get very tedious, whereas The Shaggs are a joy. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: March 10 2023 at 15:33
Voted for Shatner (I am a Strar Trek fan, and a Boston Legal fan). But I thank Logan: I know The Shaggs because of him. ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Logan wrote:Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: March 10 2023 at 17:48
I borrowed one of his later albums (I think the one with Rocket Man on it) from the library a few years ago and was a bit underwhelmed. My biggest issue with him is he doesn't sing. It's more like spoken word set to music. It's fairly original but it doesn't do much for me and I have trouble seeing the appeal. So, is Rocket Man better than the original EJ version? Not for me it isn't. Not even close.
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Posted By: Gordy
Date Posted: March 10 2023 at 18:33
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Shaggs by a long margin ------------- "Life is beautiful. Let the future generations cleanse it of all evil, oppression and violence, and enjoy it to the full." |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: March 10 2023 at 21:02
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Shatner, Shatner, Shatner. ------------- "Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: March 11 2023 at 03:58
Rocket Man by Shatner is legendary for his performance at the 1978 Science Fiction Film Awards. It was permanently etched in my brain when I saw it on TV as a 10 year old. The recorded version done 30+ years does not compare though I think Steve Hillage plays guitar on it. Star Trek fan Seth McFarland as Stewie did a version on an episode of The Family Guy. |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: March 11 2023 at 04:03
| I voted for Shatner due to the lasting impression he had had. I also thank Greg for introducing the Shaggs. Did not know of them until I was on PA. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: March 11 2023 at 10:20
^ Thanks for the thanks Geo and Lorenzo. To some I introduced The Shaggs to I ended up apologing.  His "Rocket Man" is iconic, and I have loved that Family Guy with Stewie one, and I think it's so cool that William Shatner did have the courage and means to travel to space on an actual rocket, although it left him feeling sad... https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/william-shatner-space-boldly-go-excerpt-1235395113/" rel="nofollow - see here I like quite a lot of Shatner's spoken word "songs", but I have listened to full albums of his and it has become tedious for me. For me there's something so fresh about those fresh-faced Shaggs freaks (I mean freak in a beautiful freak sense) and vibrant to the charmingly naïve and quite bizarre sounding technical incompetence (not quite the right word), the amateurism, of the album. I could imagine the young girls appearing in something like the movie Deliverance. It can be a little unsettling, but I do think the turned out something that strangely works as more than unintentional comedy (even the name is amusing an inappropriate), but as some kind of primitivist performance, not performance art so much nor performance act, as it has a genuineness about it. Shaggs+ psychedelic = Shaggadelic Music, incidentally. I would like to hear Shatner do "My Pal Foot Foot". It's so easy to imagine. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: March 11 2023 at 16:27
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Definitely the Shaggs.
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