'Partial' Live Albums
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Topic: 'Partial' Live Albums
Posted By: Rick1
Subject: 'Partial' Live Albums
Date Posted: March 01 2023 at 08:57
| Part live/part studio, all the thing once upon a time. You could add a lot of Zappa's catalogue but plenty of half'n'half to go at! |
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Posted By: Tasartir
Date Posted: March 01 2023 at 09:14
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Keys to Ascension by Yes has always been my favorite of the half-half kind. Ummagumma from your list. ------------- ...Histoires Sans Paroles... |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: March 01 2023 at 09:30
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I went with Henry Cow's Concerts. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: March 01 2023 at 09:45
Pink Floyd, even though Ummagumma is my least favourite Pink Floyd album. 
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: March 01 2023 at 09:47
| The live Ummagumma |
Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: March 01 2023 at 10:00
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Have to go with Genesis for this round. ------------- Welcome to the middle of the film. |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: March 01 2023 at 10:33
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I wasn't aware that any parts of Henry Cow - Concerts weren't live. Get's my vote ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: March 01 2023 at 10:39
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Not a bad selection at all, some good stuff here. I'll vote for Gong as they don't have votes yet, but could've voted for Pink Floyd or Henry Cow. |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: March 01 2023 at 10:49
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What about Keys To Ascension one and two by Yes? How could you leave out those?
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: March 01 2023 at 10:51
Well then you're not as wacky as I thought you were (or as wacky as me) since I like the studio stuff on there.
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Psychedelic Paul wrote:Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: March 01 2023 at 10:56
Top 5 Floyd album for me. ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: Rick1
Date Posted: March 01 2023 at 10:57
Side 1 is a BBC session |
Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: March 01 2023 at 11:19
Todd Rundgren's Utopia |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: March 01 2023 at 11:29
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Santana's Moonflower Cream's Wheel Of Fire and Goodbye ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: March 01 2023 at 12:43
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I think I'll have to go with PF here... the Moody's is a reasonable live effort, but it's a bit sterile, while the +5 are pretty woeful.
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Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: March 01 2023 at 14:28
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Nice list, but my choice is easy: Ummagumma. I would also mention Santana's Moonflower... ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: March 01 2023 at 15:48
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To mention another since I already voted for Henry's Cow (which is more mooful than woeful methinks)... The Pentangle's Sweet Child is a half live and half studio double-album. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: March 01 2023 at 16:15
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The only one on there I can vote for is Soft machine, big fan of that one, the rest not so much. ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: March 01 2023 at 16:33
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I had a partial live album this morning, if you know what I mean. ------------- "Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy |
Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: March 01 2023 at 19:27
| Ummagumma! |
Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: March 01 2023 at 20:24
| Ummagumma, Caught Live plus Five, Three Sides Live. |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: March 02 2023 at 00:47
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Ummagumma, my second favourite PF album. ------------- 
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: March 02 2023 at 00:49
interesting so what's your favorite PF album?
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Posted By: Rick1
Date Posted: March 02 2023 at 03:08
My feeble answer is that they were released long after the 'classic timeframe', however defined, that I was using as a sub-conscious reference point. The greater guilty omission is Santana's 'Moonflower'!
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Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: March 02 2023 at 03:28
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Ummagumma > Three Sides Live > Henry Cow ------------- ---------- i'm shopping for a new oil-cured sinus bag that's a happy bag of lettuce this car smells like cartilage nothing beats a good video about fractions |
Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: March 02 2023 at 05:59
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Ummagumma ------------- Friedrich Nietzsche: "Without music, life would be a mistake." Music Is Live Two people are better off than one, for they can help each other succeed. Keep Calm And Listen To The Music… < |
Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: March 02 2023 at 09:21
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Concerts, from this list. Can - The Lost Tapes is probably too recent a release for this poll, but is another excellent mix of live and studio recordings. ------------- 'Like so many of you I've got my doubts about how much to contribute to the already rich among us...' Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: March 02 2023 at 10:04
Well, so was three sides live though not as much. I get it though. You didn't want to go too far away from the golden era. Anyway, I'm only familiar with the Genesis, Moody Blues and PF so I won't vote.
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Posted By: Neu!mann
Date Posted: March 03 2023 at 11:22
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None of the above...my vote belongs to the King Crimson album Starless and Bible Black (1974, and thus well within the 'classic timeframe') ------------- "we can change the world without anyone noticing the difference" - Franco Falsini |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: March 03 2023 at 20:45
| I guess Ummagumma. Though in the early years box-set there are a few great concerts to give it a run for its money. And then there is Live at Pompeii too. |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: March 03 2023 at 20:47
I do love Keys to Ascension. For me my favourite Yes live along with Symphonic Live (easily over Yessongs), and I belive they might just as well be the best starting point for someone wanting to know what the band is about.... I only wish the live and the studio sides had been released separatley... or at the very least that there wasn't any side mixing songs from them both. |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: March 04 2023 at 02:46
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I went for Six/6. (it needed it most)
On their own adlission, some of the Yes member claim they were hardly at their top for that concert (under-rehearsed). TBH, if I still spin the KTA once in a while, it's mainly for the studio tracks ... and then, certainly more so, for the KTA2 studio tracks. I might not even own those two KTA double albums if they'd published the Keystudio tracks as an album proper back then. Cream's Wheel Of Fire & Goodbye might also be a bit out of time frame (68 & 69 rspectively)
------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: March 04 2023 at 03:59
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Frank Zappa's Weasels Ripped My Flesh and Burnt Weeny Sandwich could also meet the criteria for this poll. Later albums like Sheikh Yerbouti featured basic tracks recorded live with varying amounts of overdubs. ------------- 'Like so many of you I've got my doubts about how much to contribute to the already rich among us...' Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: March 04 2023 at 10:06
I don't believe SaBB is typically considered a live album (partial or otherwise). I had no idea that some of it was recorded live until I read about it online a few years ago. They took the crowd noise out so it wouldn't sound like a live album. You can refer to it as a partially live album if you want but really it isn't (not imo). I think a better case for a partial live abum would be Frank Zappa's Sheik Yerbouti which also features songs that had crowd noise edited out (but not all).
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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: March 04 2023 at 10:37
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Of the choices I’ll go with Soft Machine Six. The live and studio halves are equally impressive. Re: Moody Blues. I’ve always loved the band but find that live album a bit hard to listen to. I just don’t think they sounded very good live in the early days, compared to the awesomeness of the studio recordings. However, I totally love the “+5” portion. All 5 songs are worthy additions to their legacy, especially “What am I Doing Here?” which would potentially be in my top 10 MB songs. ------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: Awesoreno
Date Posted: March 05 2023 at 00:07
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Actually, a decent amount of Zappa's output counts. He would often have live cuts in his studio albums, or have albums mostly composed of cut up live bits with studio overdubs. Three different examples: -Roxy/Elsewhere is billed as a live album, but every single track contains studio overdubs, and many of the tracks are actually amalgams of a few different live takes. -Sheik Yerbouti is considered a studio album, but most of the tracks get their basis from a 1978 live performance at The Hammersmith Odeon in London (as chronicled in the ZFT posthumous release Hammersmith) with a lot of studio tracks laid on top. Unlike the former album, I believe the studio contributions rival the live contributions. Most of the vocals were done in studio (except for Yo' Mama, I believe), that's for sure. -Tinseltown Rebellion is mostly a live album, but does contain some overdubbing, and the opening track, Fine Girl, is a studio track. Not to mention the many studio albums that feature Zappa's use of "xenochrony," a term he coined to describe the process of taking a live guitar solo track and placing it in a different context over a studio rhythm backing track.
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: March 05 2023 at 03:24
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Other Santana - Moonflower
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: March 05 2023 at 05:00
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Hi, Richard Thompson -- Live More or Less The first album was from various albums, and the second album had two live versions that were, in my book, the best that RT has ever done both of those pieces. It helps that Dave Pegg was on bass, too! Never have "Night Comes In" and "Calvary Cross" sounded so perfect! ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: Neu!mann
Date Posted: March 05 2023 at 07:04
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Another other: Miles Davis, Live-Evil...not my favorite, but still worth considering. ------------- "we can change the world without anyone noticing the difference" - Franco Falsini |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: March 07 2023 at 10:27
I wouldn't know by the sound of the songs. Many are my favorite versions of them. Particularly Awaken and Starship Trooper, Time and a Word is great too, Don't Kill the Whale, Siberian Khatru. now, the one I do remember not liking so much on this album is Close to the Edge, which was played too slow, and in the organ part, too soft. |
Posted By: Cosmiclawnmower
Date Posted: March 07 2023 at 14:42
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Family- Anyway Side one is 4 live tracks recorded at the Fairfield hall 1971 and side two is 4 studio tracks recorded at Olympic studios. Pretty much the definitive 'half and half' live/ studio lp of the early 70's ------------- |
Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: March 07 2023 at 15:56
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Does Meet the Flower Kings fit the citeria? The album was recorded mostly live in the studio, with multiple takes and a shіt ton of overdubs (for example Hans Fröberg's vocals were all done in the studio and he was only lipsynching on the set), and the audience was more like a sitcom audience rather than a concert crowd. ------------- “On the day of my creation, I fell in love with education. And overcoming all frustration, a teacher I became.” — Ernest Vong |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: March 08 2023 at 01:28
| ^ Obviously your choice not mine but that was the album that made my fall out love with TFK. They have redeemed themselves with recent albums though at least in my eyes. |
Posted By: Rick1
Date Posted: March 08 2023 at 03:53
| Very few bothered to read my OP about Zappa. By extension, I have not included live albums plus overdubs - just albums with distinctive live AND studio parts or sides. |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: March 08 2023 at 05:13
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Weather Report's I Sing The Body Electric is also 1/2 live (you'll find the exact tracks on the Band's double live Live In Tokyo 1972)
Good call for Family's Anyways too, BTW.  ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: Awesoreno
Date Posted: March 08 2023 at 20:53
Fair enough, but then some of his albums still count. Uncle Meat, Weasels..., Burnt Weeny..., Tinseltown... (on a technicality), Ship Arriving... all fit.
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Posted By: Rick1
Date Posted: March 09 2023 at 05:23
Yes, but that would be a Zappa poll
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Posted By: Awesoreno
Date Posted: March 09 2023 at 23:43
| ^I forgot this was a poll and not just a discussion haha. Carry on. |
Posted By: Cosmiclawnmower
Date Posted: March 11 2023 at 08:07
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I Forgot to actually cast a vote; i'll go for Steve Hillage as no-one has given it a vote. Better live Hillage material has surfaced and been released in more recent years but its pretty good stuff and the studio side material is very under-rated and has been revisited by Steve on his recent live outings. Another lp which i think probably qualifies is 'Watch' by Manfred Manns Earth band.. Davy's on the road again and The Mighty Quinn are both un-doctored live recordings and would make up the best of one side  ------------- |
Posted By: Neu!mann
Date Posted: March 11 2023 at 09:42
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Any thoughts about the Jethro Tull's Living in the Past? Granted, it's a compilation album, but the two LP's devoted one entire side of vinyl to an unreleased live performance... ------------- "we can change the world without anyone noticing the difference" - Franco Falsini |
Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: March 11 2023 at 10:18
| Todd Rundgren's Utopia : The 14 minutes opening track is a live number |
Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: March 11 2023 at 10:19
| Ummaguma for its 4 live tracks, the second LP is just filing material |
Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: March 11 2023 at 10:27
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Allman Brothers Band : Eat a peach ( Mountain Jam is a live epic) Marillion : A brief encounter ( Lady Nina as the studio track and half a dozen of live cuts) |
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: March 11 2023 at 19:29
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Living in the Past. ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: March 12 2023 at 00:43
Hey Jon,  it's a bit of a deviation from the OP's demand, since it's not a "studio album" either. I mean, we're 1/4 live (side 3), 1/4 singles (not available on 33 RPM), 1/4 released from existing albums (therefore a compilation) and 1/4 as-yet unreleased-at-all stuff at the times (the future bonus tracks of Aqualung). But I loved that release  >> I even bothered acquiring it as a Mini-Lp, while still having the old vinyl.  ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: yes-no-and-why
Date Posted: May 17 2023 at 02:18
I was going to say, I wonder why SABB isn't on there.
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