Nat King Cole - the voice of last century.
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Topic: Nat King Cole - the voice of last century.
Posted By: Icarium
Subject: Nat King Cole - the voice of last century.
Date Posted: January 31 2023 at 16:24
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Christmas is a month ago, and 2023 is rolling on, with some massive losses in terms of rock legacy, Jeff Beck and David Crosby. My deepest change from last years x-mas, was that i dug deeper into Nat King Coles back story, spessialy listening to hes best known album, Unforgettable. My biggest find is that i did not know that well how much of a good piano player he was. And it was just by accident somebody figured out that he also was had a voice like nobody else. A richness and tonal quality that few other can replicate the same songs. Like you can not hear any other sing Nessun Dorma but Pavarotti, only Nat can sin A Chrismas Song and Unforgettable. But i also like hes direction and jazz trio conduction, i love how hes tunes sounds like. I noticed but also found out by google Robert Fripp was influenced by King Cole. There are some hints of that in the debute of King Crimson. Some of the delicate instrumentation is reminicent of details ive heard in albums like Unforgettable. This reminds me of an interview answer made by Steve Hackett when asked what was different by learning an instrument in the 50s - 60s, compared to kids today in 00s - 10s, when asked about how today, music and media is a click away, a million songs in one search, compared to, when you owned music in the 60s, which you found interesting, you learned that album. So i imagine that also makes it more logical, some in early King Crimson, have probable been into Nat King Cole which might be heard in the music. -------------  
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: January 31 2023 at 16:31
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"Robert, how did you decide to perform a rare vocal on Nat King Cole’s “When I Fall in Love”? Fripp: Well, actually, I have performed that live. I performed it live with King Crimson in the bar of a hotel in Japan in December 1981 with Tony Levin on piano. This was simply King Crimson band humor. And strangely enough, two and a half years later, March 1984, we were in another Japanese hotel, I believe in Osaka, and Bill Bruford was on piano: “Bill, E flat, please!” On that second occasion of performing this, Air Supply were in the lounge when I was singing. I have always loved the song from seeing Nat King Cole perform it in the Errol Flynn film Istanbul. Nat King Cole — stunning musicianship. I seek to emulate that." [URL=]https://eyeonpop.com/interview_detail/22/Robert-Fripp-and-Toyah-Willcox-on-Their-Viral-Quarantine-Videos:-'We're-in-This-With-You' [/URL] -------------
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: January 31 2023 at 16:46
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A genious. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RQIVkKqCb98" rel="nofollow - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RQIVkKqCb98 -------------
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Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: January 31 2023 at 18:14
| Yes, not only was Nat King Cole a great singer, but also one of the best piano players of his time. |
Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: February 01 2023 at 08:13
| Nat King Cole originally 'made his bones' playing piano. The legend has it that while his trio was playing at a bar the audience wanted him to play some songs that usually required a vocal accompany. Cole initially rejected the idea of himself singing the parts. The owner of the joint basically made Cole an offer he couldn't refuse. Sing or pack up (or something along that line). Cole agreed and the rest is history. |
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: February 01 2023 at 09:34
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Cool story, strange how the needs of the audience also creates art, the demand opens up new paths. -------------
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: February 01 2023 at 15:23
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This is not unforgettable, hes phracing was ace class. Also, very good stage presence and stature, healthy confidence. Sadly Nat King Cole also experienced discrimination and violence as he dared to cross over into new audiences. Not everyone welcommed that https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JFyuOEovTOE" rel="nofollow - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JFyuOEovTOE -------------
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Posted By: Gordy
Date Posted: February 01 2023 at 15:37
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My favourite prog-related artist covering my favourite Cole tune with the usual tearjerking elegance: "This Is All I Ask" ------------- "Life is beautiful. Let the future generations cleanse it of all evil, oppression and violence, and enjoy it to the full." |
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: February 06 2023 at 00:28
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Somehow hes piano playing today is not as known as it probably deservs. Heard on youtube from some jazz reactors that he is a crossover between swing jazz and more modern bop, hes playing style and musicality made hes playing stand out. Found this reccording where hes not named as part of the trio, but the Lesley Young Buddy Rich Trio, includes Nat as the third part. A very nice way to hear the athelthisisme of Nat King Cole behind hes true passion which was the piano. https://open.spotify.com/album/1SACHmqe7HhiVV4w4QCYls?si=k28AGH6wQNW6Ipnb7XQvZw" rel="nofollow - https://open.spotify.com/album/1SACHmqe7HhiVV4w4QCYls?si=k28AGH6wQNW6Ipnb7XQvZw -------------
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: February 06 2023 at 01:02
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Oh god yes. His voice like butter works best with an intimate
arrangement. Either just Nat and his piano or accompanied by small jazz
ensemble - preferably a trio. As with most great singers of his era, I
steer clear of all extrovert orcestrated "Vegas horn-section" material, which ruins
everything for me. I don't mind the occasional sirupy Nelson Riddle-string arrangement though. Btw: I'd reccomend the luxuriously elegant 1955-album Penthouse Sernenade for anyone interested in a purely instumental album (on the CD-version you'll get seven bonus vocal tracks). It sounds like the cover art.
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Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: February 06 2023 at 01:38
Thanks for the recommendation and. I’ll be sure to check it out… ------------- Friedrich Nietzsche: "Without music, life would be a mistake." Music Is Live Two people are better off than one, for they can help each other succeed. Keep Calm And Listen To The Music… < |
Saperlipopette! wrote:Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: February 07 2023 at 15:26
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My interest in Nat King Cole comes of many reason, hes a magnetic person, hes presence on those mid 50s videos where he preformsA Chtistnas Song he has that carisma. He has thst glims in the eyes which is hard to calculate. Hes an interesting musician, one worthy of obsession. I can listen to a Chrstmas Song off season becouse of hes quality preformance, as i say in the o,p he ia like Pavarotti on Nessun Dorma. The staple. But he also was so good on the piano Buddy Rich played in a trio with him. -------------
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