50 of the 70's
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Topic: 50 of the 70's
Posted By: JD
Subject: 50 of the 70's
Date Posted: January 27 2023 at 05:30
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Looks like the author of this was a bit of a prog fan, but there are obvious omissions. Seems to me there are too many Zeppelin and Pink Floyd albums, where one of their best would have been enough. Which ones would you have included? https://www.msn.com/en-ca/entertainment/news/the-50-best-rock-albums-of-the-70s/ss-AA16MB0D?cvid=5a0d840a8cce461a9a470851fa786568#image=1" rel="nofollow - https://www.msn.com/en-ca/entertainment/news/the-50-best-rock-albums-of-the-70s/ss-AA16MB0D?cvid=5a0d840a8cce461a9a470851fa786568#image=1 ------------- Thank you for supporting independently produced music |
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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: January 27 2023 at 06:19
| No Kansas, Zappa, Todd Rundgren, Gentle Giant, Elvis Costello, Joe Jackson, Tull, The Cars, etc. Not a list for me. |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: January 27 2023 at 06:29
| not a bad list, but predictable usual candidates for this kind of mainstream list. |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: January 27 2023 at 08:03
"Stacker compiled data on the best rock albums of the '70s and listed the top 50, according to Best Ever Albums, which ranks albums according to their appearance and performance on 40,000 editorial and data-based charts (e.g., Rolling Stone, Pitchfork, Billboard, etc.). The Best Ever Albums score is derived from a formula that weighs how many charts an album has appeared on and how high it reached on each of those charts and awards points accordingly" -Tago Mago is the only album from outside the anglosphere, but I'm not surprised. Still, kind of nice to see that the "universally acclaimed" albums are mostly great ones.
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JD wrote:Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: January 28 2023 at 07:22
Here may be some answer to your question when talking about non-Prog https://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=128800" rel="nofollow - 15 of your fave non-Prog albums from the '70s? ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: January 28 2023 at 08:09
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Their metrics are pretty impressive! (Wish I knew how to write search engines like that!) Hard to argue with their data. ------------- Drew Fisher https://progisaliveandwell.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: January 28 2023 at 09:25
And how do you define "the great ones"? ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: January 28 2023 at 12:16
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: January 28 2023 at 13:09
Okay, so it was meant as a purely subjective statement, because it could seem to be meant as a more objective one. ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: January 28 2023 at 16:32
-Anyway this initial "claim" of mine (that obviously rubbed you the wrong way) is about as provocative as stating that the two first Godfather movies are great or something. Only a fool would reply with a "oh but that's purely subjective" to that - so what's your problem? I guess we sort of annoy each other. At least you annoy me. Maybe we should just leave each other alone? |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: January 28 2023 at 16:40
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I really have no issue with this list, to me Tapestry is not a rock album but more a pop/folk album. To me this is list is pretty perfect to introduce someone to rock music of the 70's. -------------   
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: January 29 2023 at 01:57
| Boston's debut should be in there somewhere as well as at least one Stranglers album but any list that has The Stooges in it is not something to be taken seriously anyway as far as I'm concerned. Don't mind the Clash or Sex Pistols though. Also far too much Neil Young and Bowie but no Deep Purple or Rainbow (does he hate Ritchie Blackmore lol) |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: January 29 2023 at 03:56
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Had I had to estimate the number of charts around for this kind of thing, I'd probably have said something like 4,000 rather than 40,000. Curious what the inclusion criteria were here. Probably all anglophone? Of course chances are nobody here can tell me, but just note the number itself, while impressive, doesn't make this more reliable as "general consensus" as had there been 200 well chosen ones according to transparent criteria. (For example many of the 40,000 may have been far from general when it comes to inclusion criteria so that some albums could maybe have appeared in 10,000 of them, others just in 1,000, just because how they were set up.) I'm not saying there's anything wrong with this or could have done better, just my point is the sheer number isn't necessarily on its own a stamp of quality. |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: January 29 2023 at 05:03
perfect with me ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: January 29 2023 at 05:58
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: January 29 2023 at 06:53
Great, I should've read more thoroughly, then I would've found it myself. Apparently everyone can register and submit their own chart, and they are not all anglophone. I wouldn't refer to the list as a "consensus" though as those with very different lists were incorporated but didn't "consent". A law decided by parliament through democratic voting isn't a consensus either; those who lost the voting will normally still be against it.
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: January 29 2023 at 07:09
No, I know. I wrote that in the top 50 for the 1970's presented (where data from all 50 000 or so lists had been collected), only one album was from outside the anglosphere (Can - Tago Mago).
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Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: January 29 2023 at 07:20
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Very Anglo-saxon list, indeed, but well, that's where Rock came from. I wouldn't mind to see, e.g., Golden Earring's Moontan in it, or Focus II, but then... If it was a Dutch language site, or a French, Arab, Chinese or whatever non-English language site, the results would probably be a bit different. It's a pity Britney Spears wasn't born yet...  ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: January 29 2023 at 07:26
Yeah, I was referring to my own earlier suspicion here, not to what you had written.
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Posted By: DamoXt7942
Date Posted: January 29 2023 at 22:07
Please cool down everybody. Some offensive posts have been hidden.  ------------- http://www.facebook.com/damoxt7942" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: January 30 2023 at 08:53
If anyone should be in doubt, my comment was only concerning "the great ones". ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |