Estructura: Interview with David Maman (by George Rossolatos)
GR: When did Estructura officially form and what was the original line-up? What changes were made to the original line-up throughout Estructura’s different progressive periods?
DM: Estructura formed in 1975, playing Brazilian music. The original line-up consisted of Maria Eugenia Ciliberto (Guitar/Vocals), Antonio Rassi (Guitar/Vocals), Walter De Joung (Keyboard), Walton De Joung (Drums), Mercedes Godoy (Vocals), Andreina Lopez Mendez (Vocals). In 1976, the new line-up consisted of Maria Eugenia Ciliberto (Guitar/Vocals), Antonio Rassi (Lead Guitar/Vocals), David Maman (Keyboard/Vocals), Domenico Prioretti (Drums/Vocals), Agni Mogollon (Bass/Vocals), Marisela Perez (Lead Vocals), Walton De Joung (Percussion).
GR: Mas
Alla de Tu Mente is the first progressive album that was released in Venezuela at a time when the genre
was little known among
local music fans. Can you canvass the sociohistorical context at that time, the
dominant music genres and the circumstances that drove you to
the selection of this genre
as your main musical enclave?
DM: The music we played
was different to the music that was played in the radio and concerts.
Although rock bands were not popular in Venezuela at that time, it became our sound. We were sending a message about a
different world through youthful eyes and sound.
GR: What were your main influences at the time you recorded your first 2 albums? DM: I was trained in
classical music. In high school I was listening to different musical styles
such as Rick Wakeman, Emerson, Lake &
Palmer, Genesis, Queen, Led Zeppelin, Larry Carlton, to mention a few. GR: Mas Alla de Tu
Mente is a concept album. Can you guide us through the main themes that permeate its conceptual fabric?
DM: The meaning of the
name “Mas Alla de Tu Mente” is “Beyond Your Imagination”. We wanted a place that allowed us to dream
outside of our daily life. The beginning of the story describes our departure from our planet in search of a different
universe, our own imagination. The
music reflects the power it took to depart from Earth. Once we arrived at our destination, it was a beautiful and
peaceful place, where people only knew Love, Compassion and Generosity. We met
the inhabitants who showed us the way we should coexist with each other and with nature. After spending time
on this place we were ready to come back and
bring with us what we learned. “Remember your mission is to spread Love,
if you look inside yourself, you will
find it”.
GR: Why did the group
disband after 2 phenomenal albums? DM: While being a
musician, I was accepted to study Architecture and Urban Planning in Israel, so I decided to go to Israel and
become an Architect. The band did not continue
after that. GR: Was Estructura
recognized outside of their homeland while being active
to the same degree that they are recognized today in the global progressive establishment? DM: At that time there was not much Venezuelan
music played elsewhere. GR: What sort of career
paths did the band members
pursue after its dissolution? Do you still maintain
contact with each other?
DM: After the
dissolution of the band, the members continued in different directions. Maria Eugenia Ciliberto continued playing and
works in advertising. Antonio Rassi formed several bands, “Etzal”, “Faranheight”, and works in advertising. Agni Mogollon continued
playing music, formed “Gina
& Agni”, and later on moved to the United States. Maricela Perez continued singing and recording, unfortunately she
passed away. Domenico Prioretti became an architect
and moved to the United States. Walton De Joung moved to Curasao. David Maman, after graduating from Architectural
School in Israel, moved to Los Angeles where he established his Architectural
Firm.
GR: David, you were the main composer
of Estructura’s songs.
Can you share with us details about the
compositional process you followed?
DM: Maria Eugenia
created the story, wrote the lyrics and I composed the music. Sometimes I received
the lyrics over the phone, and an hour later I would play the melody I had just composed. It was a beautiful
collaboration. After that, we would hold weekly rehearsals where each member
would contribute to the final arrangement.
GR: Share with us some of the most memorable moments from your early
period live shows. What was
the largest audience in front of
which you performed, when and where? How
do live audiences compare between the 70s and nowadays? DM: At that time, there
were not many rock bands in Venezuela. In 1976, a decree was issued by the government that required radio stations to
play a song by a Venezuelan artist
for every foreign song. This is how our music begun to be heard. In 1977, we
were invited to play with the band
“Meco” (Star Wars) in the largest stadium in Venezuela “El Poliedro de Caracas”. We played in several stadiums
in different cities. Since our music was not typical Latin Music,
younger audiences were very excited to hear
a different progressive style. GR: Estructura’s live
shows are reputed to be full-fledged theatrical performances, also featuring
a choir. It is a real shame
that no footage exists from those
memorable shows. Can you describe
to us what types of arts were blended with your
music on stage? Were you influenced
by operatic performances in your approach to staging live shows?
DM: The story of “Mas
Alla de Tu Mente” included the music with lyrics, instrumentals, and a narrator. It was not a song-by-song
concert, but a whole story that allowed us to retain the attention of the audience
throughout the entire
concert. We had the opportunity of including a chorus as part of the first album and in some
concerts.
GR: How difficult
was it back then to release progressive albums in Venezuela?
DM: It was
not very common
to play rock at
that time. We were lucky to be
accepted by the public.
GR: What sort of
technical constraints did you face when you were recording your debut album that could be easily managed with
today’s technology?
DM: Our first album,
“Mas Alla de Tu Mente”, was recorded in Larrain studios, in 4 channels. The recording was difficult, as we recorded
in 3 channels and then had to transfer all 3 channels into the 4th channel, and then we had 3 extra
channels to record, and so on until all the instruments had been recorded. The
quality of the sound deteriorated after re-recording. The second album, Estructura,
was recorded in the Estudio Del Este, in 16 channels, which allowed us more freedom and possibilities.
GR: Which progressive band mates would you name from Venezuela and abroad in the
70s? Bands you toured with or used to rehearse in the same place? Were
you acquainted with any of the seminal bands that are featured in PQR’s celebratory Prog Venezuela releases, that is, Aditus, Tempano and Equilibrio Vital? If
yes, in what capacity and how would
you describe your relations?
DM: Aditus,
Tempano and Frank Quintero were some of the bands we met, listened
to and shared stages.
GR: What sorts of cultural
resources (books, artists,
movies, folk myths)
have been influential
in molding your individual artistic persona and vision?
DM: I listened to
classical music in my youth. Later on, a childhood friend introduced me to all
kinds of music, from Led Zeppelin, YES, Genesis, Rick Wakeman, Queen,
Larry Carlton.
GR: What do you think
about the contemporary scene and the proliferation of bands compared
to the 70s when only a handful
were in existence? Does the quality of contemporary musicianship compare to the scene’s
forerunners or gems are getting
scarcer to locate
amidst the hype?
DM:
The quality and level of musicianship has improved, but also the variety of the
music genre which has made
it more difficult to follow the type of music that I want to hear.
GR:
What are your perceptions about the relationship between bands and contemporary fandom, in a social media
dominated age where 1-2-1 relations
may be formed between individual fans and bands? Does the effacement of the distance
between fans and bands contribute in any manner to the loss of an artist’s aura and the role he may
perform in a fan’s life? How would
you describe the pros and cons with regard to this matter?
DM: In the past, it was
easier to relate to the artists, the writing, the music, the bands. A record was introduced to the world and
then you would listen to the music in the radio and at concerts. You were not as familiar with the person who
created the music. The artist was bigger
than life. Holding a record in your hand, and being able to read the lyrics and
look at the artist’s vision was what connected you with the music. I feel like today you know so much about
the artist personally, through
social media, that the uniqueness, the essence of the artist is lost.
GR: Some of you
have pursued parallel professional lives alongside your roles as musicians. How have you been managing
your dual roles?
DM: I think that
once you are involved in music, record songs and play on stage, you will always remember the joy it gave you. To be
successful in any profession, you need to dedicate
yourself completely. You always hope for a time that you can play again. Some
of us played at different times and in various ways. While studying
Architecture I was working as the musical director of a choir. I dedicated my professional career to
Architecture, designing commercial and residential
projects, specializing in hillside homes. Over the past 3 years, I have been able
to fulfill a dream I always had, to connect
with several musicians from Venezuela with whom I recorded several songs that I wrote in the past, currently
playing on all streaming platforms
and performing in smaller venues.
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