My top 100 best prog songs!
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Topic: My top 100 best prog songs!
Posted By: Argentinfonico
Subject: My top 100 best prog songs!
Date Posted: January 01 2023 at 15:56
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Hello to all of you! Before I say what I have to say, I want to apologise in advance in case the forum rules prohibit bringing your own projects to any post. These words that I'll say are not meant to promote myself but to share a time-consuming work of researching and listening to progressive rock that I think many people here can benefit from (and that's why I'm bringing it here). For the last 3 years I have been completing a list of songs that are candidates for a top 100 list of the best progressive rock songs ever. Six months ago I decided to analyse them one by one to complete the project, and today I have uploaded from the 100th to the 91st to my Instagram page where I will be sharing it (@algoflotaenlalaguna). I don't want to paste a direct link here in case you consider it as spam or something similar. The purpose for which I worked on the list was diversity. I've noticed that almost every list on the internet leaves out so many countries and almost all of their songs are from the UK. It always seemed unfair to me, and one day I thought: I will work on making a fair list, which will also serve to give visibility to progressive rock from other countries that many people don't know about. So I think it might be useful for many to look at the recent release and keep an eye out for others. I give a brief review of each song. I repeat: -The Instagram account is @algoflotaenlalaguna. -Apologies if this exceeds any rules I'm not aware of. I am a loyal user of this page and I hope you are not offended by this. Thank you! ------------- -Will I see you tonight? -I never make plans that far ahead. Casablanca (1942) |
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: January 02 2023 at 02:10
If Suppers Ready not NO1 then I'm not interested  Also I have join Instagram? I'm not even on facebook
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Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: January 02 2023 at 02:25
------------- Friedrich Nietzsche: "Without music, life would be a mistake." Music Is Live Two people are better off than one, for they can help each other succeed. Keep Calm And Listen To The Music… < |
richardh wrote:Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: January 02 2023 at 02:40
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I don't use instagram. |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: January 02 2023 at 03:07
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If you like comments/feedback please share it here - or at least a place where one doesn't have to sign up/register to be able to see it. I don't think you're at a place packed with "instagrammers" |
Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: January 02 2023 at 07:12
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Yes please post here so the usual suspects can critique/denounce/flame to their hearts’ content!😉😂😉 ------------- Heaven is waiting but waiting is Hell |
Posted By: Argentinfonico
Date Posted: January 02 2023 at 08:06
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You're right! Here is the 1/10 part of the top: 100- The Raven That Refused to Sing (Steven Wilson, UK, 2013) 99- Lat Kvar Jordisk Skapning Teia Pts. 1-9 (Shamblemaths, Norway, 2021) 98- Energy (Out Of Future) (Supersister, Netherlands, 1971) 97- 2112 (Rush, Canada, 1976) 96- Yksi Maa - Yksi Kansa (Haikara, Finland, 1972) 95- Ultimo Entardecer (Bacamarte, Brazil, 1983) 94- The Grand Wazoo (Frank Zappa, EE.UU., 1972) 93- En Pleine Face (Harmonium, Canada, 1975) 92- Fool's Overture (Supertramp, UK, 1977) 91- Cassandra Gemini (The Mars Volta, EE.UU., 2005) ------------- -Will I see you tonight? -I never make plans that far ahead. Casablanca (1942) |
Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: January 02 2023 at 09:21
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I only know numbers 100 and 97 from these 10, both great songs BTW! Can see this being a very useful resource for me for trying some new songs/bands👍 ------------- Heaven is waiting but waiting is Hell |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: January 02 2023 at 12:07
| Wow, this is quite an undertaking. I'm wondering what you are basing this list on? Is it just your own personal preference? |
Posted By: Argentinfonico
Date Posted: January 02 2023 at 12:29
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I'm glad to read that, Trevor! ------- I'm glad you feel that way, Mike. Each song I have deeply analyzed and examined taking into account components such as: -Structure -Development -Harmony -Lyrics (if any) -Instrumentation -Execution -Originality -Innovation -Construction -Composition (theory) And some more. It's something I've wanted to put together for a long time, and even though I did it largely for my Instagram page, I didn't want to stop sharing it with the users of the progressive rock page I frequent and enjoy using the most. I like to think it can be a source of resources and discoveries for many people here. ------------- -Will I see you tonight? -I never make plans that far ahead. Casablanca (1942) |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: January 02 2023 at 17:03
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Some other long lists of best songs of PA users are here: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=107469" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=107469 I have Fool's Overture on my list from your 91-100; The Grand Wazoo is not there but maybe should.
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: January 02 2023 at 22:34
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Looking at a top 100-91 list without any context or the rest of the list, will always look somewhat random. I do love 98, 96 and 94... but I love a lot of music. Lists like this can be fun to look at, but also a little pointless. |
Posted By: Argentinfonico
Date Posted: January 02 2023 at 22:46
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I'll be posting 10 per week 🙂 ------------- -Will I see you tonight? -I never make plans that far ahead. Casablanca (1942) |
Posted By: yogev
Date Posted: January 03 2023 at 06:24
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Looks great so far, not that I know a lot from the ones you posted, but The Grand Wazoo 100% deserve to be there. Incredible work from Zappa and his band. P.S. It would be great if you'll add the album's names of each song as well.
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Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: January 03 2023 at 10:40
Ooh, feels a little weird to be called my real name on here😱😂 OK, so I’m going to give this project the attention it deserves - I’m someone who really likes prog but have not delved too deeply into it, if you know what I mean! So I’m going to listen to every song (as long as they’re on Spotify or YouTube!) and post a few thoughts - hope that’s ok Mr. Argentinfonico?!😊 ------------- Heaven is waiting but waiting is Hell |
Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: January 03 2023 at 10:45
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Number 100: The Raven That Refused To Sing by Steven Wilson Well this is one I already knew and it’s a beautiful song. Not the biggest fan of either Porcupine Tree or Mr. Wilson’s solo output, but this is a great song and is making me think I should re-listen to quite a bit of both! But I can’t do that right now, can I?…… 😂 ------------- Heaven is waiting but waiting is Hell |
Posted By: Argentinfonico
Date Posted: January 03 2023 at 13:21
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Hahaha, call your shots! Thank you very much for your enthusiasm. That is a great minimalistic song. ------------- -Will I see you tonight? -I never make plans that far ahead. Casablanca (1942) |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: January 04 2023 at 04:55
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Fools Overture is a great song, maybe the only thing they did outside of Crime and Breakfast that I enjoy by them. |
Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: January 04 2023 at 09:43
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Number 99: Lat Kvar Jordisk Skapning Teia Pts. 1-9 - Shamblemaths This was very interesting but ultimately left me a little cold. Never played anything by them before, I know they are generally well-liked on here and I’m certainly not going to say I wouldn’t listen again or delve in more, as I’m well aware that one listen is usually not enough… ------------- Heaven is waiting but waiting is Hell |
Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: January 04 2023 at 09:45
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98: Energy (Out Of Future) - Supersister Really liked this one, never heard of them before but would certainly try this whole album. Some really nice flute, always good for me. Not too keen on the vocals, but loved the music! ------------- Heaven is waiting but waiting is Hell |
Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: January 04 2023 at 09:48
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97: 2112 - Rush Haven’t listened to this for many years but it sounded great today! I had this album as a teenage rock (but not prog, yet) fan, and it was one of the first songs to make me realise how amazing drumming can sound. I like the Rush phase from here through the next four albums but then they lost their mojo for me…. ------------- Heaven is waiting but waiting is Hell |
Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: January 04 2023 at 10:03
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96: Yksi Maa - Yksi Kansa Again I enjoyed listening to this and would be tempted to delve more. Despite being retired, I struggle to find much time to listen to a great deal of music, something I need to rectify😑 ------------- Heaven is waiting but waiting is Hell |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: January 05 2023 at 06:53
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Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: January 05 2023 at 10:41
My bad! Explains why I initially struggled to find it…. ------------- Heaven is waiting but waiting is Hell |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: January 05 2023 at 10:49
Cool. I'd like to see one for albums also if you ever get a chance. Maybe you could stretch it to 200. ;)
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Posted By: omphaloskepsis
Date Posted: January 08 2023 at 09:32
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Enjoyed the two songs I had not heard. Let's see the next ten. I don't do instagram.
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: January 08 2023 at 11:18
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Posted By: Argentinfonico
Date Posted: January 08 2023 at 16:14
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I have already published the next release! It contains from the 90th to the 81st song. Here they are: 90- The Return of the Giant Hogweed (Genesis, UK, 1971) 89- Funny Ways (Gentle Giant, UK, 1970) 88- The Fall of the House of Usher (The Alan Parsons Project, UK, 1976) 87- Ommadawn (Mike Oldfield, UK, 1975) 86- The Odyssey (Symphony X, USA, 2002) 85- Svitanie (Modrý Efekt, Czechoslovakia, 1977) 84- East Coast Racer (Big Big Train, UK, 2013) 83- Encadenado al Ánima (Invisible, Argentina, 1975) 82- Forgotten Sons (Marillion, UK, 1983) 81- A Tab in the Ocean (Nektar, 1972, Germany) ------------- -Will I see you tonight? -I never make plans that far ahead. Casablanca (1942) |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: January 08 2023 at 16:40
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Thanks for posting here. I just went through 91-100. I have an Amazon Music Unlimited subscription and each of the ten sons was available so I was able to put them all in one playlist. The Supersister and Haikara tracks were new to Mr. Good timing on your next ten. I will see if I can add then and listen as I do my meal prep for the week. |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: January 08 2023 at 17:24
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Took me a while just to add the next 10 but found them. Modrý efekt was a challenge to find as they were listed as M efekt. Lots of long tracks with Oldfield's Ommadawn topping it off. Going to be over a few days though I have heard all but symphony X, Modrý efekt, and Invisible before, so could skip the others but it's been ages for the Fall of the House of Usher and Ommadawn. |
Posted By: Necrotica
Date Posted: January 08 2023 at 17:28
Nice list so far! And it's great to see Symphony X getting some love at 86... The Odyssey is such a stellar album, especially the title track  ------------- Take me down, to the underground Won't you take me down, to the underground Why oh why, there is no light And if I can't sleep, can you hold my life https://www.youtube.com/@CocoonMasterBrendan-wh3sd |
Posted By: Argentinfonico
Date Posted: January 08 2023 at 18:10
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Thank you both! I hope you can enjoy those songs you haven't heard yet. ------------- -Will I see you tonight? -I never make plans that far ahead. Casablanca (1942) |
Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: January 11 2023 at 05:36
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95: Ultimo Entardecer - Bacamarte Really enjoyed this one, probably more than any of the other “unknowns” so far. Something in it reminded me of part of an IQ song, from the Seven Stories album I think…. ------------- Heaven is waiting but waiting is Hell |
Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: January 11 2023 at 05:39
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94: The Grand Wazoo - Frank Zappa Oh dear, my first listen to anything by FZ and it may be my last! Not a fan of stuff like this; it seemed to go nowhere, for far too long. Jazz is not my thing and this is too close to it…. ------------- Heaven is waiting but waiting is Hell |
Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: January 11 2023 at 05:47
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93: En Pleine Face - Harmonium Pleasant enough, but didn’t find this to be very exciting or, well, proggy!! But I’ve heard good things about Harmonium so would possibly delve more… ------------- Heaven is waiting but waiting is Hell |
Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: January 11 2023 at 07:58
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92: Fool’s Overture - Supertramp Believe it or not, the first time I have listened to a song of theirs (apart from hearing something in the radio) and I really enjoyed it! ------------- Heaven is waiting but waiting is Hell |
Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: January 11 2023 at 08:00
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91: Cassandra Gemini - The Mars Volta A few years ago I bought De-Loused In The Comatorium by this band and rejected it after 3 songs….. This track is mercifully short, and ok, but I really don’t think TMV are for me! ------------- Heaven is waiting but waiting is Hell |
Posted By: zwordser
Date Posted: January 14 2023 at 07:43
I'm still adding to my list from this post. A few months ago I started what was to be a series of polls on it, 10 at a time (like this one). Here was the first (& so far, only): http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=129590" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=129590 ...but didn't continue because I realized that I wanted to add some tunes and do a bit of reshuffling (after several months of not looking at or changing the list). Now up to 500! Its still an ongoing process but maybe I'll resume the polls soon. ------------- Z |
Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: January 16 2023 at 08:45
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90 : Return Of The Giant Hogweed - Genesis One I know well. Everything that is wonderful about that era of Genesis is present in this song - wonderful! ------------- Heaven is waiting but waiting is Hell |
Posted By: Argentinfonico
Date Posted: January 17 2023 at 14:39
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I have published the next release! It contains from the 80th to the 71st song. Here they are: 80- Xanadu (Rush, Canada, 1977) 79- Lament (Gryphon, UK, 1974) 78- Giant (Gentle Giant, UK, 1970) 77- Meeting of the Spirits (Mahavishnu Orchestra, USA, 1971) 76- Bortglomda Gardar (All Traps On Earth, Sweden, 2018) 75- La Poderosa Muerte (Los Jaivas, Chile, 1981) 74- Entangled (Genesis, UK, 1976) 73- Los Delirios Del Mariscal (Crucis, Argentina, 1977) 72- Lunar Sea (Camel, UK, 1976) 71- Epitaph (King Crimson, UK, 1969) ------------- -Will I see you tonight? -I never make plans that far ahead. Casablanca (1942) |
Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: January 19 2023 at 08:18
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I’m slipping behind🥴😂 ------------- Heaven is waiting but waiting is Hell |
Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: January 20 2023 at 09:57
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89: Funny Ways - Gentle Giant Short track, but develops nicely, wish it was longer! My first listen to any Gentle Giant - think I might like this lot…. ------------- Heaven is waiting but waiting is Hell |
Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: January 20 2023 at 09:59
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88: The Fall Of The House Of Usher - Alan Parsons Project Already know APP quite well, and this lovely short piece reminded me that I really need to invest more time in them again…. ------------- Heaven is waiting but waiting is Hell |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: January 20 2023 at 10:33
I vaguely know three songs from part 1/10, but it could be 2112 before I get around to listening to all 100 songs.
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Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: January 21 2023 at 02:11
Phew! I only know four songs myself ------------- Friedrich Nietzsche: "Without music, life would be a mistake." Music Is Live Two people are better off than one, for they can help each other succeed. Keep Calm And Listen To The Music… < |
Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: January 22 2023 at 20:48
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87: Ommadawn - Mike Oldfield Love MO to bits and, of course, this is one of his very best! ------------- Heaven is waiting but waiting is Hell |
Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: January 22 2023 at 20:51
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86: The Odyssey - Symphony X I have The Divine Wings Of Tragedy and like it a lot, so it’s no surprise that I enjoyed this track as well. I’m a big fan of Dream Theater and Ayreon, and Symphony X are quite similar. Once again, a band I need to play more of…. ------------- Heaven is waiting but waiting is Hell |
Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: January 22 2023 at 20:54
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85: Svitanie - Modry Efeckt Unknown band to me, but this mostly instrumental epic was full of wonder - superb! ------------- Heaven is waiting but waiting is Hell |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: January 23 2023 at 03:23
Amazon has all 10 so added to the playlist. I am surprised that I have added all 30 of 30 so far. The only two of this group that I had not heard are the two from South America. |
Posted By: Argentinfonico
Date Posted: January 26 2023 at 08:07
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70th to the 61st already launched! 70- The Revealing Science of God (Yes, UK, 1973) 69- Visions (Haken, UK, 2011) 68- Man-Erg (Van der Graaf Generator, UK, 1971) 67- South Side of the Sky (Yes, UK, 1971) 66- Perpetual Change (Yes, UK, 1971) 65- The Cinema Show (Genesis, UK, 1973) 64- Sheep (Pink Floyd, UK, 1977) 63- Childlike Faith in Childhood's End (Van der Graaf Generator, UK, 1976) 62- Movin' On (Circus, Switzerland, 1977) 61- Dance on a Volcano (Genesis, UK, 1976) In the Instagram account you can find the brief reviews (in Spanish) of each song ------------- -Will I see you tonight? -I never make plans that far ahead. Casablanca (1942) |
Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: January 27 2023 at 11:35
Ooh, that’s a lot of Yes to get through  ------------- Heaven is waiting but waiting is Hell |
Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: January 27 2023 at 12:30
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^^ I wouldn't bother with 70 mate, unless you're wanting to be sent off to sleep...
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Posted By: omphaloskepsis
Date Posted: January 27 2023 at 14:20
| Never heard Circus-Movin On. Loved it. Resplendent choice. |
Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: January 27 2023 at 14:28
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This is an awesome project! Harmonium and Bacamarte were some of my happiest discoveries back in the day. Hoping Arachnoid from France finds a spot. ------------- You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all. |
Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: January 27 2023 at 17:39
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This is quite an ambitious project, Leroy! I'm rooting for you but I fear you have bitten off something far bigger than any human can possibly chew (much less digest)--especially since you've chosen to include the entire 65 years of progressive rock music!!! I began a similar project several years back (and occasionally drift back to it) in which I was trying to "objectively" rate all of prog's 9+ minute epics (at first just the "classic era" epics but eventually all of them). I even established a 10-category criteria list to rate them using qualities quite similar to your own. But, alas! the project turned out too overwhelming. Now, if you're including every song possible, I worry for your sanity! For example: are you including all of the multi-disc Colossus Magazine/Musea Records releases of the past 20 years? If not, you are surely biased against some of the greatest prog songs ever created. Also, are you going through the entire catalogues of Tangerine Dream, Klaus Schulze, Buckethead, Frank Zappa, Alio Die, King Gizzard & The Lizard Wizard, Chick Corea, Herbie Hancock, and the many, many other truly prolific prog artists? Again, I would never trust myself with such a task: "completion" would be an unachievable end! ------------- Drew Fisher https://progisaliveandwell.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: Argentinfonico
Date Posted: January 27 2023 at 18:13
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Hi, Drew! Nice to talk to you again. What motivated me to undertake the creation of this own list is my instagram page. I have over 40,000 followers, but not all of them are due to progressive rock. The vast majority have made the decision to follow the page because of the popular rock content from my country. I have thought that doing a job of this magnitude and such a gigantic commitment can introduce many people to this beautiful environment of the vast line of music. It does not pretend to be the best top ever created but a comforting and pertinent introduction to those who have not listened to progressive rock yet or to those who have little knowledge. Of course there is also the idea of bringing new songs even to people who know, in the rare case that they haven't heard them. Besides, it is a reality that so many songs will be unfairly left out - imagine all the progressive masterpieces that have been born! Everything is thought for the thousands of followers that I have, to whom life has not yet presented this music that we all marvel at. Greetings! ------------- -Will I see you tonight? -I never make plans that far ahead. Casablanca (1942) |
Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: January 30 2023 at 08:38
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84 - East Coast Racer - Big Big Train I’m a big fan of the English Electric albums, and East Coast Racer is a gem. This band deserve their success and the loss of David Longdon is a terrible tragedy, that hopefully they will overcome. ------------- Heaven is waiting but waiting is Hell |
Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: January 30 2023 at 08:40
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83: Encadenado Al Anima - Invisible Didn’t enjoy this one so much…. ------------- Heaven is waiting but waiting is Hell |
Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: January 30 2023 at 08:42
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82: Forgotten Sons - Marillion Big Marillion fan, of both eras, and although this is not a track I would put anywhere near the top of their tree, it’s still a decent effort! ------------- Heaven is waiting but waiting is Hell |
Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: January 30 2023 at 08:44
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81: A Tab In The Ocean - Nektar Nice! First time listen to anything by Nektar and really enjoyed this piece. Another band to try to check out more🙄😊 ------------- Heaven is waiting but waiting is Hell |
Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: January 30 2023 at 08:45
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80: Rush - Xanadu From that run of albums in their best era (for me), a classic 😎 ------------- Heaven is waiting but waiting is Hell |
Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: January 30 2023 at 08:52
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79: Lament - Gryphon Lovely medieval-style instrumental! Another band to check out…. ------------- Heaven is waiting but waiting is Hell |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: February 02 2023 at 03:13
Same for me. Only one of 70-61 that is new to me. Excellent. Still able to pull every song onto a playlist from Amazon. Listing at 48 tracks (because of the ones broken into parts), it's at 8 hours 28 minutes. , |
Posted By: Argentinfonico
Date Posted: February 02 2023 at 08:41
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60th to the 51st already launched! 60- Harvest of Souls (IQ, UK, 2004) 59- The Great Nothing (Spock's Beard, USA, 2000) 58- Baker St. Muse (Jethro Tull, UK, 1975) 57- El Cortejo de un Día Amarillo (Bubu, Argentina, 1978) 56- Canto Nomade Per Un Prigioniero Politico (Banco del Mutuo Soccorso, 1973, Italy) 55- The Sleepwalkers (Van der Graaf Generator, UK, 1975) 54- One For the Vine (Genesis, UK, 1976) 53- Memento z Banalnym Tryptykiem (SBB, Poland, 1981) 52- Time (Pink Floyd, UK, 1973) 51- Gusliar (Pesnyary, Belarus, 1979) In the Instagram account you can find the brief reviews (in Spanish) of each song  ------------- -Will I see you tonight? -I never make plans that far ahead. Casablanca (1942) |
Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: February 08 2023 at 09:30
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78: Giant - Gentle Giant Yeah, very nice. Very British…. ------------- Heaven is waiting but waiting is Hell |
Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: February 08 2023 at 09:31
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77: Meeting Of The Spirits - Mahavishnu Orchestra Bit too rambly/jazzy for my liking! ------------- Heaven is waiting but waiting is Hell |
Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: February 08 2023 at 09:34
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76: Bortgloma Garda - All Traps On Earth This is more like it - enjoyed from the start, kind of gothic, gloomy, atmospheric…very nice! ------------- Heaven is waiting but waiting is Hell |
Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: February 08 2023 at 09:35
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75: La Poderosa Muerta - Los Jaivas This was very early 80s….and there’s nothing wrong with that! Nice😎 ------------- Heaven is waiting but waiting is Hell |
Posted By: Big Sky
Date Posted: February 08 2023 at 10:29
East Coast Racer is absolutely brilliant. Only The Underfall Yard tops ECR in the Big Big Train discography. They both rank very high in my all-time favorite tracks, no matter the genre. |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: February 08 2023 at 10:30
| at the risk of appearing to be an 'ELP fanboy' (well I am so there!) I wonder if anything by them is going to figure? My money is on Tarkus and Karn Evil 9 (all 3 parts??!) at some point but probably nothing else. Never quite understood why the music of this trio has got so downgraded (or lost) over the years. I mean they were not exactly a 2 track band. Remove the less glorious moments and there are at least half a dozen tracks that should be in a proper decent list of prog tracks. I could name them but hey ho.. |
Posted By: Big Sky
Date Posted: February 08 2023 at 10:51
I agree! Besides Tarkus and Karn Evil 9, Trilogy, Toccata and Take a Pebble would make my list with a few other tracks under serious consideration ( knife-Edge and Endless Enigma). |
Posted By: Argentinfonico
Date Posted: February 08 2023 at 12:57
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ELP is here, Richard! 50th to 41st here: 50- The Great Gig in the Sky (Pink Floyd, UK, 1973) 49- Jordrök (Änglagard, Sweden, 1992) 48- And You And I (Yes, UK, 1972) 47- ∞ (Aphrodite's Child, Greece, 1972) 46- The Valentyne Suite (Colosseum, UK, 1969) 45- The Herald (Comus, UK, 1971) 44- Take A Pebble (Emerson, Lake & Palmer, UK, 1970) 43- Per Un Amico (Premiata Forneria Marconi, Italy, 1972) 42- Hamburger Concerto (Focus, Netherlands, 1974) 41- The Advent of Panurge (Gentle Giant, UK, 1972) ------------- -Will I see you tonight? -I never make plans that far ahead. Casablanca (1942) |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: February 09 2023 at 07:57
cool 
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: February 09 2023 at 10:26
When prog started to have a community on the internet in the 90s people slowly started to agree that ELP were bombastic, pretentious and overrated. So in a sense they became the one band that prog fans and the critics agreed about. Meanwhile older bands like Gentle Giant, Happy the Man, VDGG, Magma, and Camel to name just a few began to be seen as underrated and underappreciated by prog fans.
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Posted By: omphaloskepsis
Date Posted: February 09 2023 at 14:36
| I found a few surprises in the 50-100 range. I'll be surprised if the next 50 surprise me with an unfamiliar song. I'm impressed by the diversity of countries represented. |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: February 11 2023 at 02:51
I think the problem here is that ELP's reach exceeded many other prog bands of the time. They appealed to a heavy rock audience as much as to a prog audience but you couldn't necessarily say that of Genesis for instance. I remember the Gentle Giant discussions well which always seemed odd as I knew very little about their music back in the day. I think the whole 'agreement' thing is dubious. It just depends who you ask. ELP were always too extrovert and had way too much fun to be considered seriously as Pink Floyd and Gentle Giant. However they were the only band that totally crossed music genres and embraced classic music , perhaps the other exception only being The Enid who don't seem to have the same depth of appreciation as Gentle Giant (not sure why) . Its complicated as always. We tend to forget that Prog fans are not the norm when it comes to a more general appreciation of rock music.
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Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: March 04 2023 at 09:23
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Not going to comment on every song from now on, as I continue to work through the list; just those I really enjoy and have not heard before. So, Visions by Haken is fantastic! As a Dream Theater fan I’m expecting a few of theirs to appear (hopefully!) but this is as good as anything DT have done for years. Clearly influenced by the prog metal legends, it will certainly have me reaching for the whole album at least. Been a while since we had another ten songs (nudge nudge)😊 ------------- Heaven is waiting but waiting is Hell |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: March 04 2023 at 09:48
No, not everyone agreed regarding ELP. I'm just telling you how I remember it and how it seemed to be. Also, when more fans heard more stuff that they thought was better ELP took a back seat. They just didn't seem to age well with a lot of prog fans. You can say those things are dubious too but that's how I see it. The prog community does seem to be a bit snobbish at times when it comes to what they like. I remember recently when Carl Palmer took his "virtual" ELP out on the road a lot of prog fans on online forums had major issues with it and thought it was unethical etc. but the general audience seemed to really appreciate it and many fans went to see it. I suspect many were just rock fans who happened to like ELP and not "prog snobs." This is in line with your last comment because prog fans can seem much more elitist compared to the general rock audience.
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: March 05 2023 at 03:20
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I was hoping to see the Top 40 selection, hope I didn't come across too grumpy?! (well if the cap fits and all that )
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