25 albums I know from the 90's rateyourmusic chart
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Topic: 25 albums I know from the 90's rateyourmusic chart
Posted By: Logan
Subject: 25 albums I know from the 90's rateyourmusic chart
Date Posted: June 28 2022 at 12:22
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Inspired by Drew's (BrufordFreak) "PA's Top Albums of the 1990s", I thought that I might do a general music one based on the rateyourmusic charts for the 90s. But I decided to only mention ones that I know or have known well going from the top rated down -- I haven't heard that Smashing Pumpkins in many years, but most of these I have returned to much more recently, and some were fairly recent discoveries. Note that many of my favourites are not in the list, and while there are many albums I love in this list, these are not my 25 faves from the 90s overall -- I moved down the chart picking ones I have known well and liked. Some of these, like that Cocteau Twins album I only heard quite recently in full. And I decided to only include the first album by a band or artist on RYM's list that I know even if I would like to mention more by the band/artist. Here is the chart https://rateyourmusic.com/charts/top/album/1990s/" rel="nofollow - https://rateyourmusic.com/charts/top/album/1990s/ . If you wish to look at the chart and mention any others on it that you would have chosen, please do (please mention how it ranks in the list too then, please). Multiple votes are enabled, so feel free to vote for as many of these as you like. Radiohead - OK Computer Neutral Milk Hotel - In the Aeroplane Over the Sea Slint - Spiderland Fishmans - Long Season Portishead - Dummy Godspeed You Black Emperor! - F♯A♯∞ Björk - Homogenic Cocteau Twins - Heaven or Las Vegas Swans - Soundtracks for the Blind Talk Talk - Laughing Stock Aphex Twin - Selected Ambient Works 85-92 Sigur Rós - Ágætis byrjun Massive Attack - Mezzanine Nirvana - In utero Boards of Canada - Music Has the Right to Children Belle and Sebastian - If You're Feeling Sinister Nick Cave and The Bad Seeds - Let Love In Stereolab - Dots and Loops Fiona Apple - When the Pawn The Flaming Lips - The Soft Bulletin The Smashing Pumpkins - Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness Yo La Tengo - I Can Hear the Heart Beating as One Pulp - Different Class PJ Harvey - To Bring You My Love Boredoms - Vision Creation Newsun Again, multiple votes enabled, vote for as many or as few that you like as you want to, and/or feel free to mention others you see in the RYM charts. I, like Drew, might make a part two. |
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: June 28 2022 at 12:48
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I've actually heard them all, and went for a top ten of sorts... Cocteau Twins - Heaven or Las Vegas Stereolab - Dots and Loops Talk Talk - Laughing Stock Godspeed You Black Emperor! - F♯A♯∞ Swans - Soundtracks for the Blind Radiohead - OK Computer Boredoms - Vision Creation Newsun Portishead - Dummy Nick Cave and The Bad Seeds - Let Love In PJ Harvey - To Bring You My Love |
Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: June 28 2022 at 13:16
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I went as far as the first 250 on the RYM list before I became bored. But here are the albums, in the order they appeared, that I like that you’ve not listed. I like a lot (most, actually) of your list, but some of the following I would possibly choose instead of some of your list: Nine Inch Nails - The Downward Spiral Depeche Mode - Violator Built to Spill - Perfect From Now On Smashing Pumpkins - Siamese Dreams (I’m not sure whether I’d choose this or Mellon Collie) Rage Against The Machine - self-titled Radiohead - The Bends (I’m not sure whether I’d choose this or OK Computer) Alice in Chains - Dirt Tool - Ænima Nine Inch Nails - The Fragile (I’m not whether I’d choose this or Downward Spiral) Built to Spill - Keep It Like A Secret (I’m not sure if I’d choose this or Perfect From Now On) Soundgarden - Superunknown Faith No More - Angel Dust Pearl Jam - Ten Manic Street Preachers - The Holy Bible Suede - Dog Man Star Scott Walker - Tilt If I ever go back and look beyond the first 250 on the RYM list, I might amend the above list. ------------- https://tinyurl.com/nickhnz-tpa" rel="nofollow - Reviewer for The Progressive Aspect |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: June 28 2022 at 13:53
| Out of the three albums I know, my vote goes to The Flaming Lips. |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: June 28 2022 at 14:11
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Radiohead, Slint, Portishead, GYBE, Bjork, Swans, Talk Talk, Aphex Twin, Sigur Ros, Nirvana, Boards of Canada Had I voted for just one, it'd have been Talk Talk.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: June 28 2022 at 15:13
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My listing process took me to 101 on the RYM chart, so about a quarter of the top 100 albums there. I have heard that Depeche Mode album that Nick mentioned, but it's a bit hazy, otherwise I could have made it all RYM top 100. That said, unless I knew that I was continuing, I would have been very sad not to include the Boredoms (at 101 in RYM for the 90s) as I love that album. Were I to continue down the RYM list, I would be very sad if I followed the one artist per album idea as there are various other Swans, another Portishead, and more Stereolabs that I would want to list. For some other particularly notable faves of mine (going down the list and one per artist and only listing the first at RYM by the act even if not my favourite by the artist/band): Current 93's Thunder Perfect Mind is at 300, Tortoise TNT is at 321, Air's Moon Safari is at 336, Cardiacs' Sing to God is at 345, Księżyc's s/t is at 531, Mercury Rev's Yerself Is Steam is at 559, Dead Can Dance's Into the Labyrinth is at 562, Robert Wyatt's Shleep is at 594, Morte Macabre's Symphonic Holocaust is at 631, Eels' Electro-Shock Blues is at 750. Couldn't see Pram in the top 1000 (may have missed it). |
Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: June 28 2022 at 15:39
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Yeah, I had a LOT of albums on my own list that A) aren't in PA's Top 50 and B) aren't even in the PA database. Like Pearl Jam, Alanis Morissette, New Soul Family Sensation, Luther Vandross, Sade, Swing Out Sister, Opus III, Seal, Julia Fordham, The Cure, Prince, Stereolab, Everything But The Girl, and Janet Jackson. ------------- Drew Fisher https://progisaliveandwell.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: June 28 2022 at 16:06
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Radiohead Talk Talk Sigur Ros Boards Of Canada ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: June 29 2022 at 14:56
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Oh, it's much easier to just pick ones you like than to imagine lists or rankings... From these I chose Radiohead, Godspeed, Sigur Rós a,d PJ Harvey. Hesitated to add Portishead and Talk Talk, but to be honest I have to listen to those albums a bit more. ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: July 19 2022 at 14:33
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Godspeed ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: July 19 2022 at 14:47
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Gave votes to about half of these, but I’ll single out the Yo La Tengo album for special mention, as it’s in the running for my favorite album of the 90s album overall ------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: July 19 2022 at 15:18
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in random order Stereolab Massive attack Radiohead Portishead Talk Talk Sigur Ross |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 19 2022 at 16:42
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^ Thanks, love your choices, and since you voted for both Massive Attack and Portishead, I had been wanting to share here what I think is a great mash-up of two fantastic songs with two terrific singers: Massive Attacks' Teardop from Mezzanine with Elizabeth Fraser and Portishead's Roads from Dummy with Beth Gibbons. "Teardrops on Roads": |
Posted By: DreamTechPlus
Date Posted: July 21 2022 at 03:46
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I will never in a million years quite understand what the appeal of that Slint album is. Sigur Ros even more so. Actually this whole selection is a big part of why RYM just isn't for me. There's something eerie and cultivated about it, like it's born out of some systemic pretence more than anything. Perhaps I'm being paranoid, that's likely. I just don't have the imagination or empathy to get the appeal of some of these. Thank God for Fiona Apple, though. Though if one of her 90s albums was represented here, I'd have picked Tidal. Love, DreamTechPlus.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 21 2022 at 11:51
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Taste can seem ineffable. While one will find commonalities amongst many people who enjoy Spiderland, each listener has a unique experience, and it depends on personality, life experiences, associations, when in their journey they discovered something, and the general circumstances when they heard it. I often find that reading reviews, especially the ones that really seem to come from the heart often, can help. Having a sense of empathy and imagination does help, and just having an open-mind and humility. I tend to find it stranger that someone wonders, or more like they would be surprised that people could like something they don't than that people appreciate and connect to things that I don't. Different strokes for different folks. It is to be expected that people appreciate different things, and often appreciate the same things for rather or very different reasons. Spiderland is not a favourite album of mine, but I immediately liked the opening track, asd I can appreciate it. It's the kind of album that I would have to be in the right mood to enjoy. Sigur Ros is not a favourite act of mine, but I find music they make lovely. And I often like ambient music and dreamy music, and before I was really into Progressive Rock, I was into things like New Age music. I have been told that I like elevator music due to some of the old Exotica/ Tropica that I like. I wouldn't be surprised if some of it is systematic pretence, people looking to conform, and that may lead to some people genuinely liking things that conform to certain others tastes. The herd instinct can be strong. We often are tribalistic. I often get into music through association. If I discover one thing I like, I often look for more like it, and that takes me down rabbit holes. Many RYM users often do seem to share similar tastes to mine, but it wasn't about me trying to conform to what they like (and I am not a member of that site), it was that I noticed that a lot of what I discovered I had heard and really appealed was rate highly there. I have discovered various albums through using the site, but more because I use the custom filters than the general charts. I once said something about music reminding me of something else at this forum, and someone responded by saying that I had only said that because that is the idea that various others have expressed, and I'm just conforming/ parroting that erroneous idea. Well, I was in fact new to that music and hadn't read others opinions about it. Often people really do just think the same things and are being genuine, which does lend credence to there being truth and sincerity to the opinions being expressed. I find that the Prog Archives charts commonly don't reflect my tastes well as this does tend towards the Prog conservative who favours symphonic prog and Symph related, classic styles of Prog, and more "melodic rock" and melodic metal (AOR-related as a genre) music commonly. I almost feel like I can draw wobbly lines with much of my tastes from first hearing Gary Numan with the Tubeway Army's Replicas as a young child, which resonated deeply with me immediately. Incidentally, I really got into much of the 90s music, and this has really affected my current tastes, when I started listening to a quite surreal and very dark comedy 90s radio show that combines sketch and dark comedy with music called Blue Jam (from Chris Morris) a few years ago. From there I really got into favourites of mine such as Stereolab and Portishead. That had a huge effect on my interests. |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: July 22 2022 at 19:08
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In my opinion the ranking of RYM is very sad (as often happens). For me the 90's mean - Morphine - Lisa Germano - Nick Cave (but not Let Love In) - Tortoise - Fugazi - Johnny Cash - Church - Phish - Tori Amos etc. Glad to see on RYM Talk Talk, My Bloody Valentine, Slint, Sigur Ros. Radiohead? Well, we know, RYM is like a Radiohead fun club. ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 22 2022 at 20:34
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^ As said, my list would have been quite different had I not listed the first album I had heard and appreciated in the general music RYM charts, and just the first album listed that I knew by an artist even if I preferred others. Just mentioning it even though you are not questioning that. Of course you've expressed your dissatisfaction with the charts there before -- mostly I have used it to discover albums through custom charts there as it has far more labels than PA and you can use multiple labels and descriptors to search for albums (a better research tool of discovery for my wants). I find it often aligns surprisingly well with my interests. That list above of 25, which only includes one album per act, only covered the top 101 albums in the chart. Looking at the PA top 101, I actually wouldn't fare as well for meaningful albums to me for the 90s, although there are favourites of mine in the all Prog categories PA chart there not represented in the general music top 250 at RYM chart of course. On your list, the only one I have been really into for that period is Tortoise, which as I mentioned in an earlier post had its highest ranked album at 321 at RYM in the general music charts. I would have a Tortoise in my top 25, and I might have expected it to be ranked rather higher even on general music list like that which covers far more territory than PA. Interestingly at PA's general Prog chart, Tortoise does not make the top 250 for the decade. I don't know where the top ranked Tortoise album fits there. http://www.progarchives.com/top-prog-albums.asp?ssubgenres=&syears=1999&syears=1998&syears=1997&syears=1996&syears=1995&syears=1994&syears=1993&syears=1992&syears=1991&syears=1990&scountries=&sminratings=1&smaxratings=0&sminavgratings=1&smaxresults=250&x=46&y=7#list" rel="nofollow - CLICK for PA chart I wonder how many of your favourite albums from the 90s are in that PA chart, Lorenzo? EDIT: Despite being a member of a Prog site and no other music sites, that 25 list of the top 101 albums for the 90s at a general music site is much more meaningful to me than the top 101 all Prog categories at PA. And I am a, sometimes-fun fan of Radiohead myself, even if I am not a paid member of the club. Not sure what's wrong with liking Radiohead. People might say much the same of so many people liking Yes and Genesis here. I would sooner listen to most Radiohead than most Yes and Genesis. Or for a more modern band, it can seem like this site is a Porcupine Tree/ Steven Wilson fanclub. And I have heard a Radiohead influence in SW/PT. |
Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: July 22 2022 at 20:37
| Godspeed You! Black Emperor for me, but there are absolute gems on here. |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: July 29 2022 at 10:29
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Radiohead - OK Computer Massive Attack - Mezzanine Nirvana - In utero PJ Harvey - To Bring You My Love ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 01 2022 at 11:13
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Good stuff, you two, and good to see you around again, David. Not on the list due to my methodology, but the album of the 90s that I have most listened to of late is Portishead's self-titled (I thoroughly love that album). |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: August 01 2022 at 12:27
I really like Ok Computer, but I consider it a commercial album, and if I were to rank 90's albums critically it wouldn't be in the top places. I remain convinced that the best of Radiohead are the first albums, especially The Bends and Ok Computer. I consider Kid A, hailed by Italian and partly European critics as a masterpiece, as the new Sgt Pepper, one of the most overrated albums in music history (and in fact many critics have changed their mind). Personally, I think that apart from a few notable songs (and a masterpiece song: try to guess which one) it is a not entirely successful album and in the following years Radiohead have done better, sometimes. RYM adds up the votes of its participants, to get its rankings, and often the result is influenced by global success. The presence of Radiohead and Pink Floyd, for example, is disproportionate. Even Progarchives sometimes reflects the musical tastes of its participants. For example I doubt that a European prog site would have so many Rush albums in the top 30 (or 50?) (I, incidentally, contributed my vote to lower the charts of some of these albums). On the other hand, sometimes some very refined groups, which would deserve critical acclaim, are not present in the ranking: perhaps because they are not prog in the strict sense and remain cult groups (Tortoise, Tim Buckley). I looked at the PA ranking from the nineties. In the top 100 there are a lot of albums that I've never heard. I've heard others but I don't consider them great albums, especially the heavy metal ones (Opeth, Gorguts, Death, Atheist). I really like the albums by Cardiacs, Art Zoyd, Marillion, Sigur Ros, Ozric Tentacles. I would certainly put the Tortoises and Tori Amos and Mark Hollis albums on the list. Ok Computer: I would put it but not in the first places. I like Dream Theater or, to be precise, I recognize their greatness in having combined prog and heavy metal with beautiful melodies and good (sometimes too much) virtuosity, and I would certainly put one or two of their albums in the first 20 or 30. Edit: If I consider Italian music, in the 90's there are some masterpieces: - CCCP. Etica Epica Etnica Pathos - CSI: Linea Gotica - Fabrizio De André: Anime Salve - Francesco Guccini: Stagioni etc. I posted some songs taken from these albums in the Interactive Polls.
------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Logan wrote:Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: August 01 2022 at 14:58
thanks, Greg ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: August 01 2022 at 15:07
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Radiohead Talk Talk Sigur Ros
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: August 01 2022 at 15:10
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http://www.progarchives.com/top-prog-albums.asp?ssubgenres=&syears=1999&syears=1998&syears=1997&syears=1996&syears=1995&syears=1994&syears=1993&syears=1992&syears=1991&syears=1990&scountries=&sminratings=1&smaxratings=0&sminavgratings=1&smaxresults=250&x=46&y=7#list" rel="nofollow - CLICK for PA chart a great list indeed
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