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Topic: The ultimate songwriter
Posted By: el böthy
Subject: The ultimate songwriter
Date Posted: October 10 2005 at 21:15

Well...there you go, Im sure I forgot some...please tell me if your fav is not here.

As for me, Ill say Waters and Hammill must be the best songwriters not only in prog but also in music in general.



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Posted By: Cygnus X-2
Date Posted: October 10 2005 at 21:17
From the look of the thread title, I thought you meant overall greatest songwriter of all genre's. Regardless, I would have to go with Pete Townshend, hands down.

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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: October 10 2005 at 21:24

Silly Who-fanatic!

Of those up there, Ian Anderson.

Of all songwriters: Maybe Bach or Tchaiovsky or Beethoven.



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Posted By: Yanns
Date Posted: October 10 2005 at 21:26
Sinfield wrote lyrics, not really music. Do you mean lyricist?


Posted By: Pr@gmatic
Date Posted: October 10 2005 at 21:26
Sinfield


Posted By: Philrod
Date Posted: October 10 2005 at 21:29

Lyrically, Roger waters would be my choice

Musically, frank Zappa would be my choice

And as a whole, Peter Hammil is definitely my choice!

But then, nobody will ever beat the Beatles! but hey! they are not prog!



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Posted By: BePinkTheater
Date Posted: October 10 2005 at 22:22

John fu cking Lennon....

What the hell is wrong with you people?



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Posted By: Philrod
Date Posted: October 10 2005 at 22:42
Originally posted by BePinkTheater BePinkTheater wrote:

John fu cking Lennon....

What the hell is wrong with you people?

Do you really think what you just said?



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Posted By: tanis573
Date Posted: October 10 2005 at 23:15
Mike Oldfield


Posted By: fender101
Date Posted: October 10 2005 at 23:52

Originally posted by tanis573 tanis573 wrote:

Mike Oldfield

Seriously now who's your real favourite? No jokes in this thread please



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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: October 11 2005 at 00:52
Ian Anderson, what a genius....

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Posted By: lunaticviolist
Date Posted: October 11 2005 at 01:18

Not only could he write great epics, but he could also write SONGS.



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Posted By: iguana
Date Posted: October 11 2005 at 01:50
where is burt bacharach??????


Posted By: eduardossc
Date Posted: October 11 2005 at 08:27

From those in the list, IAN Anderson. But you missed the duo Rutherford-Banks.

I don´t think Waters was an outstanding songwriter. He might have writen some curious lyrics, but his real talent to write songs is shown in The Wall and The final cut, where music was quite scarse.



Posted By: Fraja
Date Posted: October 11 2005 at 08:40
FREDDIE MERCURY AND LATIMER


Posted By: Progcupine
Date Posted: October 11 2005 at 09:35
Originally posted by BePinkTheater BePinkTheater wrote:

John fu cking Lennon....

What the hell is wrong with you people?

 

my six-year-old brother writes better songs than "imagine". Lennon is not a good songwriter!!!

 



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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: October 11 2005 at 10:37
Originally posted by Progcupine Progcupine wrote:

Originally posted by BePinkTheater BePinkTheater wrote:

John fu cking Lennon....

What the hell is wrong with you people?

 

my six-year-old brother writes better songs than "imagine". Lennon is not a good songwriter!!!

 

 This would be the "Imagine" regularly found at the top of "best song" polls (along with Bo Rap and Angels). Your brother must be very talented!



Posted By: Under
Date Posted: October 11 2005 at 10:49

Hmm, I must have misread the question.

I thought the greatest lyricswriter. That must be Fish.

 



Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: October 11 2005 at 10:56

From that list, Ian Anderson or Peter Hammill.

But what about Robert Wyatt?



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Posted By: Yams
Date Posted: October 11 2005 at 16:30
Ian Anderson for lyrics AND music. Roger Waters and Peter Gabriel for lyrics. Robert Fripp, Mike Oldfied, and Steve Hackett for music. 


Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: October 11 2005 at 16:42

ITS GILDENLOW, NOT GILDENGLOW!



Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: October 11 2005 at 18:40
Originally posted by BePinkTheater BePinkTheater wrote:

John fu cking Lennon....

What the hell is wrong with you people?

...wow...I cant believe what I hear...read actually...



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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: October 11 2005 at 18:43
Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

ITS GILDENLOW, NOT GILDENGLOW! 

I knew it was gonna be you who would correct me on this one!!!

damn you King of Loss

hahahaaaaa



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Posted By: CaincelaOreinim
Date Posted: October 11 2005 at 18:55

Why isn't Steven Wilson considered in this poll?...He gets my vote regardless...

NOTE: we're talking SONGS here people not epics/heavily orchestrated pieces of music. 

@ original poster: in regards to Tool, MJK (Maynard James Keenan) writes all the lyrics.



Posted By: Nipsey88
Date Posted: October 11 2005 at 19:23
Originally posted by Under Under wrote:

Hmm, I must have misread the question.

I thought the greatest lyricswriter. That must be Fish.

 



Yup, I agree, for lyrics, Fish is my man. With Maynard James Keenan, the unmentioned Steve Wilson (tsk tsk), and Ian Anderson closely following.

Pete Sinfield, for as in depth as his lyrics can be (read about all the hidden meaning and imagery in his words, very layered), you really need a bong to fully get them.


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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: October 12 2005 at 05:18
Tony Banks

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Posted By: fender101
Date Posted: October 12 2005 at 05:44

What a lot of creative power you could have in one room. Id lobe to hear a song written by waters the anderson's, hamill and gabriel!



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Posted By: Progcupine
Date Posted: October 12 2005 at 08:13
Originally posted by CaincelaOreinim CaincelaOreinim wrote:

Why isn't Steven Wilson considered in this poll?...He gets my vote regardless...

NOTE: we're talking SONGS here people not epics/heavily orchestrated pieces of music. 

@ original poster: in regards to Tool, MJK (Maynard James Keenan) writes all the lyrics.

 

You´re right man!!!, I voted for Roger Waters just because S. Wilson was not on the list!!!, anyway I love both!!



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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: October 12 2005 at 16:04
Originally posted by Progcupine Progcupine wrote:

Originally posted by BePinkTheater BePinkTheater wrote:

John fu cking Lennon....

What the hell is wrong with you people?

 

my six-year-old brother writes better songs than "imagine". Lennon is not a good songwriter!!!

 

Thats like saying I draw better than Fontanas art just because he is a minimalist...its that poor mentality that is just distruction...never creation



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Posted By: BePinkTheater
Date Posted: October 13 2005 at 22:34
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by Progcupine Progcupine wrote:

Originally posted by BePinkTheater BePinkTheater wrote:

John fu cking Lennon....

What the hell is wrong with you people?

 

my six-year-old brother writes better songs than "imagine". Lennon is not a good songwriter!!!

 

 This would be the "Imagine" regularly found at the top of "best song" polls (along with Bo Rap and Angels). Your brother must be very talented!

I hate everyone...You're all Prog-snobs!!

John Lennon was the greatest song wiriter....

 

followed closely by Paul, then Ian Anderson...



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I can strangle a canary in a tin can and it would be really original, but that wouldn't save it from sounding like utter sh*t.
-Stone Beard


Posted By: The Wizard
Date Posted: October 13 2005 at 22:56
Either Pete Townsend or Ray Davies are my all time favorite songwriters. Peter Hammil or Ian Anderson, but i'll have to go with Anderson.

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Posted By: Proglover
Date Posted: October 13 2005 at 23:44
Oh my God!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...............No one voted for JON ANDERSON!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!............... ....What the hell is wrong with you guys!?!?!?!?!


Posted By: Proglover
Date Posted: October 13 2005 at 23:45
Dont tell me you guys fall for that BS about his lyrics being meaningless to such an extent that you don't see Jon Anderson as a good song writer......Jon is one of the main writers in YES!!!!!!!! You people have lost your mind!!


Posted By: krauthead
Date Posted: October 16 2005 at 18:05
Roger Waters indeed

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