Brian Eno and The Lamb
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Topic: Brian Eno and The Lamb
Posted By: Heart of the Matter
Subject: Brian Eno and The Lamb
Date Posted: May 02 2022 at 08:47
| According to Steve Hackett's biography, "Brian Eno provided some electronic enhancements on vocal and guitar parts" in The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway. Did anybody know about that? It's something totally new for me! |
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Posted By: Cosmiclawnmower
Date Posted: May 02 2022 at 10:06
I heard he just scrunched up some tape parts so they'd sound wonky, then they were added into the final mix... so much for Enossification..
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Posted By: JD
Date Posted: May 02 2022 at 10:11
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Has about the same relevance as if Hendrix had lent Greg Lake some guitar strings and a pick in early 1970. ------------- Thank you for supporting independently produced music |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: May 02 2022 at 10:54
| Eno did the vocal treatments on "Grand Parade Of Lifeless Packaging" and "In The Cage." |
Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: May 02 2022 at 10:55
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Heart of the Matter wrote:Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: May 02 2022 at 12:06
| I believe it's mentioned on the album cover. |
Posted By: Heart of the Matter
Date Posted: May 02 2022 at 15:58
| Thank you people for the input, very kind of you. I'll be listening to this classic with a new pair of "enossificated" ears. More Steve insight: "he helped to sharpen the edge for which The Lamb is still remembered to this day". |
Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: May 02 2022 at 16:54
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Quoted from Kevin Holm-Hudson's book ' Genesis and The Lamb Lies down on Broadway : Ashgate publishing 2008 KHH mentioned a Phil Collins Interview for "Modern Drummer Magazine" back in 1983 "For instance, when Genesis was doing TLLDOB, Eno was upstairs and he met Peter (Gabriel). Peter wanted to feed his vocals through some of Eno's synths.So, he came down.As payment for that, I was sent upstairs to play on Eno'srecord , which was a track (Mother wale eyeless) on "Taking tiger mountain (by strategy)". We hit it off well, so when he did "Another green world", he rang me and Percy ( Jones, from Brand X) up and I did all the drums on that ( Alexander, 1983, p.10) KHH added : "Eno's vocal processing is most obviously heard on "The grand parade..."where the treatments are similar to those on Eno's "Fat lady of Limburg" but il also occurs at other key points : the 'porcupine' sections of Back in NYC.." and "..the guitar in the final verse of "In the cage" also appears to be "Enossified" ( the guitars sound as if they were processed through a VCS3 synth, Eno applied similar modifications to Chris Spedding's guitar on John Cale's Gun on Cale's Fear album released the same year as The Lamb" |
Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: May 02 2022 at 17:08
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Mailo enumerates all the things I heard about Eno's "one day visit from upstairs" just as I heard about them in the 70s and 80s. And I'm so grateful for the trade: I love Percy and Phil's contributions to Another Green World--my introductory album into Brian's world. ------------- Drew Fisher https://progisaliveandwell.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: May 02 2022 at 17:42
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I love his treatment of "The Grand Parade". As elegant and Eno'ish as it can get. On the other hand I am not sure if Phil Collins' drums on "Mother Whale Eyeless" really add anything substantial. It's not bad of course.
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Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: May 03 2022 at 13:32
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I checked others Genesis band and members biographies about the Enossification.What is sure is that the treatment was limited to the processing o Peter's voice throuh Eno's ARP synth . Crediting Eno's name (a Peter's idea) "irked Tony Banks to this day" Sources : Without frontiers, life and music of PG by Daryl Easlea 2014 Overlook Omnibus The living years Mike Rutherford 2014 Constable London The songs of Genesis Steve Aldous 2020 Mc Farland and Company Genesis 1969 to 1975 the PG years 2020 Mario Giammetti Kingmaker A Genesis in my bed Steve Hackett 2020 Wymer |
Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: May 03 2022 at 13:54
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^ Yes, glancing through this thread, it would seem that how much he did does seem to vary with which band member you are talking to. ------------- Help the victims of the russian invasion: http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28523&PID=130446&title=various-ways-you-can-help-ukraine#130446 |
Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: May 07 2022 at 05:48
| I didn’t know that fact, and I’m surprised to know. |
Posted By: Heart of the Matter
Date Posted: May 07 2022 at 08:45
That's true. The impression I take from my readings is that Hackett is the most keen to recognize Eno's contribution, and Banks is the less. Sounds like the term "enossification" was the final compromise in a dispute over the credits. Also variable is the answer to who came up with the idea for the invitation. It seems to be divided between Phil and Peter. |
Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: May 07 2022 at 13:42
| it hasn’t changed the course of history, The lamb became a masterpiece of rock :-) |