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Topic: favorite epics of non PA artists! You can pick >1
Posted By: kenethlevine
Subject: favorite epics of non PA artists! You can pick >1
Date Posted: February 21 2022 at 13:55
During the prog era and beyond, many non prog artists released epics.  I am only listing artists not on PA in any category, even prog related.  Many of these epics could arguably be considered prog, but they aren't on PA.  That's the criterion, that and being lengthy.  You can pick as many as you want from this list.  And please comment or rank if you like.  I limited the list to 1 per artist, and the ones I chose are not necessarily my favourites. If you choose other please list the epic(s) and artist(s).



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Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: February 21 2022 at 14:03
if I hadn’t read your post, I would have queried the absence of Bowie.

I can think of some epics I love by Lou Reed and Neil Young more than most on this list, but from this list, it’s hard to look past Elton John.



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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: February 21 2022 at 14:31
I am going with Loreena McKennitt.  I love the way she blended electric with acoustic instruments, esp when she went into a more Middle Eastern realm.  Also, a beautiful melody for this poem by Tennyson.  

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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: February 21 2022 at 14:43
Oh well, Telegraph for a Funeral Wink




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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: February 21 2022 at 14:47
What a great line-up!

1. Derek and the Dominoes - Layla
2. David Gates - Clouds Suite
3. Elton John - Funeral for a Friend/Love Lies Bleeding
4. Dire Straits - Telegraph Road
5. Fleetwood Mac - Oh Well


Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: February 21 2022 at 14:55
CSN. Suite:Judy Blue Eyes.

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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: February 21 2022 at 15:50
Cat Stevens, Al Stewart, Dire Straits. There are many I don't know and should probably check out.


Posted By: Heart of the Matter
Date Posted: February 21 2022 at 17:21
Great concept for a poll! Voted for Fleetwood Mac, Elton, and David Gates. From outside the list: America - Hat Trick and James Taylor - Suite for 20G.
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Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: February 21 2022 at 17:26
Sun Ra    "Atlantis"


Posted By: Necrotica
Date Posted: February 21 2022 at 17:40
Loreena McKennitt from the list, although if we could choose songs outside the list, I would have gone with Dante's Inferno by Iced Earth

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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: February 21 2022 at 18:00
And the answer is...not in this poll. Alice Cooper's "Halo of Flies".

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Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: February 21 2022 at 19:53
Thanks everyone for the interest.  There are a lot of "others" people have mentioned that I don't know.  For instance, I love America but only know their hits, so it's great to learn that they too had an epic.  Most of my ideas came from my own collection.  I'm really glad to know a lot of people seem to like the David Gates piece, which is a fine blend of the Bread sound and prog.  And Cat Stevens' Foreigner, while a bit draggy in parts, has some stunning passages including reggae and calypso that had barely seeped into popular music outside of the islands at the time

Here are some also rans I could have picked by the listed artists

Chris De Burgh - Revolution (sometimes listed as 3 separate tracks)
Bob Dylan - Idiot Wind, Lily Rosemary and the Jack of Hearts
Fleetwood Mac - Sands of Time, Future Games
Garfield - Play it Again Boys
Loreena McKennitt - The Highwayman
Mr Fox - The Gypsy
Runrig - Nothing But the Sun





Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: February 21 2022 at 20:08
Oh Well > Telegraph Road

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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: February 21 2022 at 20:25
First vote for Porrohman. Big Country were pretty awesome for a while. Also voted with many others for Telegraph & Mac.

Since others are throwing additional songs in there too, I’ll suggest “From the Cradle to the Grave”, a 16 minute multi-part punk song by the classic British band Subhumans. A pretty well-constructed and complex (for punk) epic if you’ve got any tolerance for that kinda thing.

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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: February 21 2022 at 20:28
Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

And the answer is...not in this poll. Alice Cooper's "Halo of Flies".

Thumbs Up


Great lp overall......killer track,,,     

Wink


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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: February 21 2022 at 20:33
Not an epic per se but one of my favorite longer tracks.....
Ten Years After- 50,000 Miles Beneath My Brain

from the poll went with Oh Well.........


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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: February 21 2022 at 20:42
uhh, Cat Stevens from the list ... but actually the Dead, 'Blues for Allah' suite ~



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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: February 21 2022 at 20:44
This one is for Micky....we miss you around  here....best of the best of the best.....ladies and gentlemen the Allman Bothers....




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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: February 21 2022 at 20:59
^ I was just thinking about that hoodlum -



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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: February 22 2022 at 00:18
Oh Well……

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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: February 22 2022 at 00:30
From this list I picked:

1. Loggins & Messina
2. Fleetwood Mac
3. Dire Straits

Honourable mention: David Gates



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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 22 2022 at 01:33
Toto and Dire Straits


Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: February 22 2022 at 03:41
Went with Elton.

Another one not mentioned:
Grateful Dead - Terrapin Part 1


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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: February 22 2022 at 06:19
Grace Slick's "Theme from the Movie 'Manhole'" comes to my mind.




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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: February 22 2022 at 06:30
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

CSN. Suite:Judy Blue Eyes.

Oh, that's a good call!


Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: February 22 2022 at 06:40
Hi,

You might not realize this ... but in essence, this was a typical playlist for the station in Santa Barbara that brought us Guy Guden and Space Pirate Radio (1974) ... in those days, the DJ's pretty much did their thing, and unlike today, THEY WERE LIVE ... where today, the DJ is basically a nobody and he/she has no say in the material played! 

FM ruled then, and then some!!!! Here's a small listing of things, and it doesn't matter if PA has them or not!

Elton John: Funeral for a Friend/Love Lies Bleeding
Cat Stevens: Foreigner
David Gates: Suite Clouds and Rain
Al Stewart: Love Chronicles
Chris De Burgh: Crusader
Loggins and Messina: Pathway to Glory
Loreena McKennitt: Lady of Shallot
Don McLean: American Pie
Van Morrison: You don't pull no punches but...
Michael Stanley Band: Let's Get this Show on the Road
Toto: Hydra
George Winston: Longing/Love
Derek and the Dominoes: Layla
Fleetwood Mac: Oh Well
Dire Straits: Telegraph Road
Bob Dylan: Stuck inside of Mobile with the Memphis Blues...
Alice Cooper: Halo of Flies
The Allman Brothers Band: Whipping Post
Grateful Dead: (Various things)
Pink Floyd: (Various things)
... some others 
Montrose
Frank Zappa
Jefferson Airplane
Spirit
Quicksilver Messenger Service
Hot Tuna
Boz Scaggs
Chicago
Small Faces
James Gang
Yes
ELP
Jethro Tull
Kinks

... and a lot more!!!!



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Posted By: Modrigue
Date Posted: February 22 2022 at 08:01
Avenged Sevenfold - The Stage
Bathory - Twilight of the Gods
Monster Magnet - Tab...
Venom - At War with Satan
The Orb - A Huge Ever Growing Pulsating Brain That Rules From The Centre Of The Ultraworld

Most of these bands (I don't know for Bathory?) are fan of prog.



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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: February 23 2022 at 14:44
Only know about a third, but of those...American Pie.

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Posted By: BarryGlibb
Date Posted: February 24 2022 at 22:56
Glad to see Foreigner by Cat Stevens and Porrohman by Big Country on the list.
 
Big Country's first 2 albums were masterpieces IMHO. But yes, they did fall away after that in the mid to late '80s, but surprisingly their 90s albums are consistently good and especially their last studio album "Driving To Damascus" in 1999, before Stuart Adamson's tragic death in 2001.

Also an honorable mention to Mick Abraham's ~15 minute "Seasons"(see below) from his 1971 album Mick Abrahams https://www.discogs.com/release/1501920-Mick-Abrahams-Mick-Abrahams%20" rel="nofollow - https://www.discogs.com/release/1501920-Mick-Abrahams-Mick-Abrahams




Posted By: Heart of the Matter
Date Posted: February 25 2022 at 07:10
Wonderland (12" Mix) is a Big Country sort of epic I like a lot (great bass & drums).


Posted By: BarryGlibb
Date Posted: February 25 2022 at 16:55
Originally posted by Heart of the Matter Heart of the Matter wrote:

Wonderland (12" Mix) is a Big Country sort of epic I like a lot (great bass & drums).


Spine tingling stuff....yes!

I used to play that 12" Wonderland Mix as loud as possible. Very progressive indeed.

Tony Butler and Mark Brzezicki; a brilliant bass and drum combination. Before they joined Big Country they both played together on Pete Townshend's 1980 album Empty Glass.



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