Your favourite Heavy Prog albums?
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Topic: Your favourite Heavy Prog albums?
Posted By: David_D
Subject: Your favourite Heavy Prog albums?
Date Posted: January 04 2022 at 03:56
Happy New Year to everybody, and how about follow the fireworks up with some Heavy Prog. I think, that will be just fine.Here's my list, unranked:
Anekdoten (S) - Vemod (1993)
Bi Kyo Ran (J) - Bi Kyo Ran (1982)
Black Sabbath (UK) - Paranoid (1970) Budka Suflera (PL) - Cien Wielkiej Gory (1975) Captain Beyond (US) - Captain Beyond (1972) Dragon (B) - Dragon (1976) Landberk (S) - Rigtigt Äkta (1992) The Mars Volta (US) - De-loused in the Comatorium (2003)
Porcupine Tree (UK) - Coma Divine. Recorded Live In Rome (1997) Procession (I) - Frontiera (1972) Scorpions (D) - Lonesome Crow (1972) Steel Mill (UK) - Green Eyed God (1971) T2 (UK) - It’ll All Work out in Boomland (1970) Uriah Heep (UK) - Look at Yourself (1971)
And as usually, I hope, you'll enjoy it! ![Smile Smile](smileys/smiley1.gif)
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: January 04 2022 at 05:12
Only heard a few of these. I've been listening to the T2 album since it's recent reissue, that's really good.
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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: January 04 2022 at 07:01
Rush is my favorite heavy prog band and I could list at least six from them, all from The Aristocrats, several from Haken and PT. I will list only one per band.
"Black Sabbath (UK) - Paranoid (1970)" are not heavy prog according to PA.
Anekdoten - Vemod Anti-Depressive Delivery - Chain of Foods The Aristocrats - Culture Clash Beautiful Bedlam - s/t Enchant - Juggling 9 or Dropping 10 Haken - Visions Karnivool - Sound Awake The Mars Volta - De-Loused in the Comatorium Porcupine Tree - Stupid Dream Rush - Moving Pictures Them Moose Rush - Dancing Maze Vulkan - Technatura
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: January 04 2022 at 07:11
I don't consider a few bands mentioned here as heavy prog (Anekdoten, Black Sabbath, Haken, Karnivool, Porcupine Tree).
I'll be back with a list in a little bit. ![Tongue Tongue](smileys/smiley17.gif)
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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: January 04 2022 at 07:45
Black Sabbath - Sabbath Bloody Sabbath* (Prog Related) Atomic Rooster - Death Walks Behind You Groundhogs - Split* (Prog Related) Hedvig Mollestad - All Them Witches A Formal Horse - Meat Mallet Porcupine Tree - In Absentia Led Zeppelin - IV* (Prog Related) Rainbow - Rising* (Prog Related) Scorpions - Lonesome Crow* (not on PA) Rush - A Farewell To Kings Budgie - Never Turn Your Back on a Friend* (Prog Related) Iron Maiden - Seventh Son of a Seventh Son* (Prog Related) Anekdoten - Vemod Uriah Heep - Salisbury BBI - s/t Bi Kyo Ran - s/t The Mars Volta - Frances The Mute The Mercury Tree - Permutations
As you included Black Sabbath & Scorpions I included them in my list but neither are in Heavy on PA. I added Groundhogs, Budgie, Led Zep, Iron Maiden & Rainbow based on that logic.
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: January 04 2022 at 08:11
chopper wrote:
Only heard a few of these. I've been listening to the T2 album since it's recent reissue, that's really good. |
I can certainly recommend give a listen to some of them. Most of them are high og very high rated.
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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: January 04 2022 at 08:17
Cristi wrote:
I don't consider a few bands mentioned here as heavy prog (Anekdoten, Black Sabbath, Haken, Karnivool, Porcupine Tree). | I agree, but every band you mention, less Sabbath, are defined in PA as heavy prog.
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: January 04 2022 at 08:36
Many of the bands in my eventual A-Z list won't be strictly defined as Heavy Prog on PA either. I'm taking a broad brush approach to Heavy Prog, otherwise I'll be unable to sweep together a full A-Z list of bands.
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Posted By: enigmatic
Date Posted: January 04 2022 at 08:37
Some of my favorite heavy prog albums - one album per band, in alphabetic order.
Anekdoten - Vemod Atomic Rooster - Death Walks Behind You Black Widow - Sacrifice Fields - s/t Fusion Orchestra - Skeletons in Armour Fuzzy Duck - s/t Gravy Train - s/t Indian Summer - s/t Jonesy - Keeping Up Junipher Greene - Friendship Landberk - Riktigt Äkta Morte Macabre - Symphonic Holocaust Murphy Blend - First Loss Odin - s/t Room - Pre-Flight Rush - Permanent Waves Steel Mill - Green Eyed God Still Life - s/t T2 - It'll All Work Out in Boomland Twenty Sixty Six And Then - Reflections On The Future Virus - Revelation Waterloo - First Battle Writing on the Wall - The Power of the Picts
I excluded Budgie, Black Sabbath, Led Zeppelin. I don't think they are heavy prog bands.
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: January 04 2022 at 08:55
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
Many of the bands in my eventual A-Z list won't be strictly defined as Heavy Prog on PA either. I'm taking a broad brush approach to Heavy Prog, otherwise I'll be unable to sweep together a full A-Z list of bands. ![Smile Smile](smileys/smiley1.gif) |
I'm looking forward to, and no need to hurry. ![Big smile Big smile](smileys/smiley4.gif)
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Posted By: Argo2112
Date Posted: January 04 2022 at 09:44
If I stick to PA definition of heavy prog I end up with a lot of Rush & Porcupine Tree. Moving Pictures - Rush Hemispheres - Rush Permanent Waves - Rush Counterparts - Rush In Absentia - Porcupine Tree Deadwing - Porcupine Tree Lightbulb Sun - Porcupine Tree LRM - Levin, Minnemann, Rudess The Aristocrats - S/T
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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: January 04 2022 at 10:17
Here's 10 Good Ones... 1 per bandPermanent Waves - Rush Lightbulb Sun - PT Tug Of War - Enchant Bridge - Everon Age Of Impact - Explorers Club Impossible Figures - Magellan Presents Of Mind - Tiles I Am Anonymous - Headspace Gravity - Anekdoten One In A Million - Poverty's No Crime (15 years ago, I argued that PNC should be Heavy Prog rather than PM, because they are just as much Rush-like as Enchant or Tiles, but no-one agreed then and I'm sure they won't now either, but I'm still including them)
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: January 04 2022 at 11:07
This was easier that I thought it'd be. ![Smile Smile](smileys/smiley1.gif)
ARMAGEDDON - Armageddon (1975)BAKERY - Rock Mass for Love (1971) CAPTAIN BEYOND - Captain Beyond (1972) DR. Z - Three Parts to My Soul (1971) EASTER ISLAND - Easter Island (1979) FIELDS - Fields (1971) GRAVY TRAIN - (A Ballad of) A Peaceful Man (1971) KEN HENSLEY - Proud Words on a Dusty Shelf (1973) IRISH COFFEE - Irish Coffee (1971) JACKAL - Awake (1973) KAHVAS JUTE - Wide Open (1971) LONE STAR - Lone Star (1976) MAY BLITZ - May Blitz (1970) NORTHWIND - Northwind (1974) ODIN - Odin (1972) PALADIN - Charge! (1972) QUATERMASS - Quatermass (1970) RAW MATERIAL - Time Is... (1971) STEEL MILL - Green-Eyed God (1972) TOMORROW'S GIFT - Tomorrow's Gift (1970) THE UNDERGROUND SET - The Underground Set (1970) VALHALLA - Valhalla (1969) WRITING ON THE WALL - Power of the Picts (1969) YEZDA URFA - Boris (1975) ZARATHUSTRA - Zarathustra (1972)
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: January 04 2022 at 12:51
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
This was easier that I thought it'd be. ![Smile Smile](smileys/smiley1.gif) ........... ........
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Aallriight, happy to see and hear.
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: January 04 2022 at 12:56
David_D wrote:
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
This was easier that I thought it'd be. ![Smile Smile](smileys/smiley1.gif) ........... ........
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Aallriight, happy to see and hear. |
We have a match on two favourite albums: Captain Beyond & Steel Mill. ![Thumbs Up Thumbs Up](smileys/smiley20.gif)
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: January 04 2022 at 13:12
Cristi wrote:
I don't consider a few bands mentioned here as heavy prog (Anekdoten, Black Sabbath, Haken, Karnivool, Porcupine Tree).
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I've reconsidered my list, see my edit. ![Smile Smile](smileys/smiley1.gif)
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: January 04 2022 at 13:13
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
We have a match on two favourite albums: Captain Beyond & Steel Mill. ![Thumbs Up Thumbs Up](smileys/smiley20.gif) |
I've surely seen that! and I'm very fond of both of them. ![Thumbs Up Thumbs Up](smileys/smiley20.gif)
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: January 04 2022 at 13:33
David_D wrote:
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
We have a match on two favourite albums: Captain Beyond & Steel Mill. ![Thumbs Up Thumbs Up](smileys/smiley20.gif) |
I've surely seen that! and I'm very fond of both of them. ![Thumbs Up Thumbs Up](smileys/smiley20.gif)
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In fact, I think, there're not so few albums, we both are fond of. I've already seen quite a bit. ![Smile Smile](smileys/smiley1.gif)
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Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: January 04 2022 at 14:11
David_D wrote:
Cristi wrote:
I don't consider a few bands mentioned here as heavy prog (Anekdoten, Black Sabbath, Haken, Karnivool, Porcupine Tree).
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I've reconsidered my list, see my edit. ![Smile Smile](smileys/smiley1.gif) |
This is why I haven’t participated yet. It’s a tricky one, and several people have noted that what is considered heavy prog by them (or others) is not by PA, or vice versa.
As an example that I’ve seen crop up often, a band like Porcupine Tree has changed styles numerous times. They are down as heavy prog in PA, and regardless of whether or not they have ever been heavy prog, there’s no way that every PT album is heavy prog.
My favourite PT studio album is The Sky Moves Sideways. Is that heavy prog? Some might say yes, but a lot would probably say no.
But, for argument’s sake, keeping to what PA considers heavy prog (and remembering that it might be true for some of the discography, but not necessarily all of it), my favourites would probably be from the following:
Anekdoten Arabs in Aspic Arcane Battle Circus The Bloody Mallard Breaking Orbit Confusion Field D’Accord Deformica Dialeto El Doom & The Born Electric Enfant Ghost Medicine Ghost Toast Headspace Karmamoi Karnivool The Mars Volta Mother Turtle Onségen Ensemble Osada Vida Pinkroom Porcupine Tree Sky Architect Time Collapse
If I counted correctly, that’s 25 artists to choose from. I think it’s probably my favourite 25 from the many that are listed as heavy prog on PA. I could easily list another 25, and probably just as easily another 25 after that, but these are probably the crème de La crème for me. And, yes, I’m aware they are all quite modern. I do like a lot of earlier heavy prog and could easily list 25 from then, and another 25 after that, etc. - but generally, I guess I prefer the more modern heavy prog sound. 🤷🏻♂️
I’ll try and come back with an actual list of albums….. 🤔
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: January 05 2022 at 04:23
Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:
Scorpions - Lonesome Crow* (not on PA)
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I agree with not including Scorpions on PA, but I think, Lonesome Crow is a fine Heavy Prog album to mention.
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Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: January 05 2022 at 16:32
Lots of love for Captain Beyond's debut! They were the very first band I ever saw on the big rock stage, and it was stunning!
I'd suggest Amon Duul II's "Wolf City," that used to shake the dorm room walls back in the day!
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: January 06 2022 at 01:25
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: January 06 2022 at 15:59
Yes, I do consider Paranoid as a Heavy Prog album, and this is what I've written in my review of it:"Looking from the perspective of 1970, Paranoid must be considered as (Heavy) Prog album, and according to what Ozzy Osbourne once said in a interview, that's how it was meant by the Sabs themselves. The music is not as complex as some other bands' from that year but it's surely very innovative and thus beyond the mainstream Rock - not to speak about Planet Caravan which influenced by Django Reinhardt, one of Tony Iommi's influences, is very jazzy. Heavy Metal as a genre was not established in 1970, even not really forming before Paranoid, so looking from the perspective of that year, the album can't be considered as a part of that genre. So historically speaking, Paranoid can't be seen as something else than (Heavy) Prog. And maybe the most correct thing to do is to consider the whole very early HM as a part of Prog. Ion Lord of Deep Purple had indeed Progressive ambitions as well, and what about Uriah Heep?"
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: January 06 2022 at 16:26
^ Early heavy metal was considered a part of prog but is rarely seen that way now. Here's an interesting quote from Philip S. Walker's notes in the Warhorse CD Red Sea ;
"...Heavy
Rock as a style grew out of Progressive Rock sometime in the early 1970s. The trend setters were Deep Purple and Black
Sabbath" .
Now that's a perspective you don't hear anything about these days. In hindsight it makes sense and adds a dimension to the post-Psychedelic era previously missing.
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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: January 07 2022 at 01:26
My three favourite bands are Rush, Anekdoten and Porcupine Tree so something like... Permanent Waves
Moving Pictures In Absentia Gravity Until All The Ghosts Are Gone Hemispheres Deadwing A Farewell To Kings Fear Of A Blank Planet Vemod
Alternate list and these are all going by what the site here calls Heavy Prog
T2- It'll All Work Out In Boomland Tiles- Presents Of Mind Liquid Scarlet- Liquid Scarlet Landberk- One Man Tells Another Exsimio- Carbono 14 Morte Macabre- Symphonic Holocaust Thule- Ultima Thule Karnivool- Sound Awake Book Of Hours- Art ToThe Blind Elder- Lore
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: January 07 2022 at 01:30
Going by PA's definition (btw Rush occupy the top 4 places on PA's heavy prog list!)
1. Rush - Moving Pictures 2. Porcupine Tree - Deadwing 3. The Mars Volta - Amputechture 4. Haken - Affinity 5. Headspace - All That You Fear Is Gone 6. Quatermass - s/t 7. Lone Star - Firing On All Six 8. Fields - s/t 9. Enchant - Tug Of War X. The National Orchestra of the United Kingdom Of Goats - Vaaya and the Sea
(btw I've never heard the last album in my list but included it for the great name and to make up to ten!)
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: January 07 2022 at 04:51
Atavachron wrote:
^ Early heavy metal was considered a part of prog but is rarely seen that way now. Here's an interesting quote from Philip S. Walker's notes in the Warhorse CD Red Sea ;
"...Heavy
Rock as a style grew out of Progressive Rock sometime in the early 1970s. The trend setters were Deep Purple and Black
Sabbath" .
Now that's a perspective you don't hear anything about these days. In hindsight it makes sense and adds a dimension to the post-Psychedelic era previously missing. |
That is very interesting, both concerning Prog and Metal history, and maybe even quite relevant for the roots of Prog Metal. Deep Purple has indeed not less than BS to be considered being among Prog pioneers.
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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: January 07 2022 at 05:22
David_D wrote:
That is very interesting, both concerning Prog and Metal history, and maybe even quite relevant for the roots of Prog Metal. | Rush is also relevant for the roots of prog metal.
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: January 07 2022 at 05:30
Grumpyprogfan wrote:
David_D wrote:
That is very interesting, both concerning Prog and Metal history, and maybe even quite relevant for the roots of Prog Metal. | Rush is also relevant for the roots of prog metal. |
Yes, very much!!
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: January 07 2022 at 11:02
All the usual suspects have been mentioned...my favorite big names would beUriah Heep Rush Porcupine Tree Capt Beyond but a few less well known ones I'm fond of.. Armageddon Big Elf Black Bonzo Gravy Train Lucifers Friend Steamhammer (listed as crossover...)
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: January 09 2022 at 16:35
dr wu23 wrote:
All the usual suspects have been mentioned...my favorite big names would beUriah Heep Rush Porcupine Tree Capt Beyond but a few less well known ones I'm fond of.. Armageddon Big Elf Black Bonzo Gravy Train Lucifers Friend Steamhammer (listed as crossover...)
| Good list of lesser knowns, doc. Whatever happened to Big Elf?
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