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Topic: Jazz Music Archives needs some more attention!
Posted By: SuperMetro
Subject: Jazz Music Archives needs some more attention!
Date Posted: December 30 2021 at 22:11
I have seen a site like this one, but about Jazz. It seems pretty well made, but sadly, nobody seems to be using it. I thought it would be cool if some jazz fans and you other prog guys to enjoy this site too. http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/



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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: December 31 2021 at 00:12
I agree, and have been wanting to start writing more jazz reviews.  



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Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: December 31 2021 at 00:18
If you don´t know SuperMetro, M@X decided to create both Metal Music Archives and Jazz Music Archives, after Prog Archives became such a huge success. None of those sites are unfortunately as successful as Prog Archives, but both have a similar structure (with some exceptions), with collab teams evaluating new artists and trying to be the most comprehensive databases in their genre of music with flowing reviews on the frontpage like PA.


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Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: December 31 2021 at 08:40
The jazz site is doing just fine. Our daily features on new albums pull in a lot of viewers. There is very little chit-chat on the forum, but that is typical of any jazz site. Reviews have been down a bit lately, but its the holidays, a lot of us have had better things to do.


Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: December 31 2021 at 08:51
Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

The jazz site is doing just fine. Our daily features on new albums pull in a lot of viewers. There is very little chit-chat on the forum, but that is typical of any jazz site. Reviews have been down a bit lately, but its the holidays, a lot of us have had better things to do.

I have to say that the new album feature is a fine one, John, and a jazz music archives idea which would be a very good one for PA to replicate. Certainly, this would be of far more interest than the 60,000th review of Selling England. Such a feature would restore much of the interest for our reviewing collabs in the wider progressive music world, artists especially.


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Posted By: Matti
Date Posted: December 31 2021 at 09:05
Early this year I entered the jazz site with an intention to start reviewing albums there (soooo much of yet unreviewed stuff!!!!), but unfortunately I confronted some technical problem and couldn't write reviews. Undoubtedly I could have solved it, but then I gave up of the site altogether (fearing that reviewing albums there would eventually steal too much time from other writing). Back then I also intended to minimize my PA reviewing activity, which actually hasn't really happened. ;)

My impression of JMA was that there isn't enough reviewing going on. I sincerely hope it'll increase, and maybe I do join some day.


Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: December 31 2021 at 09:09
Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

The jazz site is doing just fine. Our daily features on new albums pull in a lot of viewers. There is very little chit-chat on the forum, but that is typical of any jazz site. Reviews have been down a bit lately, but its the holidays, a lot of us have had better things to do.


I have to say that the new album feature is a fine one, John, and a jazz music archives idea which would be a very good one for PA to replicate. Certainly, this would be of far more interest than the 60,000th review of Selling England. Such a feature would restore much of the interest for our reviewing collabs in the wider progressive music world, artists especially.
Thanks Steve, we are very happy with our daily new album features, just put up two more, a modern abstract European album and some avant-garde sax work from Jon Raskin. There will be more coming today and every day. Sympathy is not needed or wanted folks.


Posted By: Progishness
Date Posted: December 31 2021 at 10:06
I find the jazz archives to be an excellent reference resource, tho I've never bothered to join the forum, but I'm not sure how frequently the site gets updated/maintained.


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Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: December 31 2021 at 10:30
Originally posted by Progishness Progishness wrote:

I find the jazz archives to be an excellent reference resource, tho I've never bothered to join the forum, but I'm not sure how frequently the site gets updated/maintained.
Updated every day my friend, just added three new album features, go listen to some new jazz music everyday, its good for you.


Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: December 31 2021 at 11:48
Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

The jazz site is doing just fine. Our daily features on new albums pull in a lot of viewers. There is very little chit-chat on the forum, but that is typical of any jazz site. Reviews have been down a bit lately, but its the holidays, a lot of us have had better things to do.

Hi,

In the past I have posted in there some, in the threads. I'm not sure I have ever done an album review (for example) for that website, although I could easily do 5 Rypdal albums, at least 5 Garbarek albums and at least 10 Gismonti albums, at least 2 Vasconcellos albums, a few Weber albums ... in other words, a lot of ECM stuff, probably the place that I am most comfortable with. Some of the other "famous" jazz labels, are not as strong for me, although it's really hard to not appreciate Coltrane, or so many other folks from the late 50's and then 60's, and of course, Miles.

I have a review of the special on Miles Davis and will post it ... as soon as I get it ready (it's on my website).

One of the best features in the threads is that there are not many "newbies" that just talk about their favorite band. And it is really nice to actually read from folks that appreciate music, very differently from the pop/rock style of things. I was thinking that no one in there (at least when I was about) ever worried about a top ten, and probably thought it was ridiculous anyway!


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Posted By: Progishness
Date Posted: December 31 2021 at 12:32
Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

Originally posted by Progishness Progishness wrote:

I find the jazz archives to be an excellent reference resource, tho I've never bothered to join the forum, but I'm not sure how frequently the site gets updated/maintained.
Updated every day my friend, just added three new album features, go listen to some new jazz music everyday, its good for you.


Ah thank you - I only visit the site from time to time just to keep an eye on some of the quirkier sub-genres, such as Exotica.


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Posted By: Steve Wyzard
Date Posted: December 10 2024 at 13:17
With all the Holdsworth/McLaughlin/Ponty/ECM fans on this site, it's truly a mystery as to why more of them don't also visit JMA. I've only been able to keep up with the latest releases by visiting on a weekly basis.


Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: December 10 2024 at 13:29
^It's because there is no interaction of forum members. Great site but a graveyard.


Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: December 10 2024 at 13:39
Originally posted by Steve Wyzard Steve Wyzard wrote:

With all the Holdsworth/McLaughlin/Ponty/ECM fans on this site, it's truly a mystery as to why more of them don't also visit JMA. I've only been able to keep up with the latest releases by visiting on a weekly basis.

It's because Rate Your Music has usurped just about every other database as a reliable comprehensive music site with more jazz artists and more ratings than anything even close to JMA.

Add to that the PA, MMA and JMA triumvirate are neglected and most of us experience technical glitches just trying to navigate them. If any of these sites survive into the 2030s i'd be shocked.





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Posted By: omphaloskepsis
Date Posted: December 10 2024 at 13:43
Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

^It's because there is no interaction of forum members. Great site but a graveyard.


This again^.


I wish there were more reviews and ratings.  That's how I narrow down which jazz albums to listen to.  


Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: December 10 2024 at 14:13
Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

^It's because there is no interaction of forum members. Great site but a graveyard.
Not a graveyard at all, JMA has more artists than PA and almost twice as many albums, all of this even though PA had an almost 10 year head start. There is not much chit chat on the forum because that is typical of jazz sites. You won't find a jazz site with much conversation anywhere. Jazz fans are mostly into the music. If you like jazz music, JMA posts new album features every day, check it out:
https://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31242&PID=152476&SID=8c39785e7z31z6ae6343e42bcb87b5894907407&title=jazz-albums-for-2024#152476" rel="nofollow - https://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31242&PID=152476&SID=8c39785e7z31z6ae6343e42bcb87b5894907407&title=jazz-albums-for-2024#152476


Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: December 10 2024 at 17:02
I need to re-start going there more, I joined it in 2011......need to spend more time there. Prog is boring...

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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: December 10 2024 at 17:21
Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

I need to re-start going there more, I joined it in 2011......need to spend more time there. Prog is boring...


I must say that I'm not very active there, anymore.
All I've done in recent years is posting my EOY lists. Embarrassed
A good forum attendance might've kept fueling my interest.
I'm not sure MMA is doing that much better  re: forum.
I don't even have it in my bookmarks.

I still go there to check out discographies, when Discogs has me doubting (as opposed to doing the opposite)


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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: December 10 2024 at 17:31
Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

^It's because there is no interaction of forum members. Great site but a graveyard.
Not a graveyard at all, JMA has more artists than PA and almost twice as many albums, all of this even though PA had an almost 10 year head start. There is not much chit chat on the forum because that is typical of jazz sites. You won't find a jazz site with much conversation anywhere. Jazz fans are mostly into the music. If you like jazz music, JMA posts new album features every day, check it out:
https://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31242&PID=152476&SID=8c39785e7z31z6ae6343e42bcb87b5894907407&title=jazz-albums-for-2024#152476" rel="nofollow - https://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31242&PID=152476&SID=8c39785e7z31z6ae6343e42bcb87b5894907407&title=jazz-albums-for-2024#152476

So I tried to login to my JMA account and I guess I don't know it anymore, can you or someone reset me so i don't have to re-sign up and lose my profile?

Thanks!


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Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: December 10 2024 at 17:33
^ I will look into it.


Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: December 10 2024 at 17:35
Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

^ I will look into it.

same user name Catcher10


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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: December 10 2024 at 18:17
I go there about once a week to research stuff. Good site, could use more forum chatter

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Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: December 10 2024 at 18:37
Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

I go there about once a week to research stuff. Good site, could use more forum chatter
I don't know of any jazz sites that have any chatter. AllAboutJazz closed their forum about 7 years ago. Any other site I know of doesn't even have a discussion board. Jazz sites tend to focus on new albums and recently released archival albums. That's fine with me, I rarely participate in the discussions at PA either, its just not what I'm looking for. I'm looking for music I haven't heard yet, especially new music.


Posted By: snobb
Date Posted: December 10 2024 at 22:21
Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

^ I will look into it.


same user name Catcher10




I send you the instructions by PM, hope it will help


Posted By: Matti
Date Posted: December 10 2024 at 22:57
I've been reviewing albums there more than here for the last year.
Sad to say but it definitely is too inactive. I don't mind about the lack of conversation in the JMA forum, but I've been wondering why the new artists adding process has radically slowed down. That is, new suggestions are piling up. As a reviewer receiving jazz albums I find it frustrating.


Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: December 11 2024 at 02:29
Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

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Certainly, this would be of far more interest than the 60,000th review of Selling England. Such a feature would restore much of the interest for our reviewing collabs in the wider progressive music world, artists especially.

Hi,

Or the 60,000 comment on Jethro Tull, or Yes.

The main difference for me, is that JMA seems to be more interested in the material itself ... here, folks seem more interested in the numbers game and the comments that the fans determine what is art ... whereas in the jazz world, the artists are given a lot more latitude, than the cookie cutter factory on PA proper ... 

It is possible, that PA has gotten better about this over the years, but seeing the same threads yet again, is a bit weird ... and folks spending more time on 3/4/5 bands than the MUSIC itself ... that in itself is even weirder! Not sure you'll find that on JMA.


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