Cd's Out Of Print
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Topic: Cd's Out Of Print
Posted By: Jacob Schoolcraft
Subject: Cd's Out Of Print
Date Posted: December 27 2021 at 08:51
| Greetings members of Progarchives! I am very "old school " in the sense that I am not thrilled over downloading. I buy cd's instead and since I collect mostly obscure titles I am often faced with the dilemma of something going out of print. There are situations where a particular cd will never be re-released. For many years I've tried to find Michael Giles- Progress and the first two Julverne cd's at a fair price however I am dreaming and it's ridiculous of me to think I could find them without paying an extremely high price or trading something rare . Has anyone on Progarchives struggled with this? Would you be so kind as to make a list of recordings that you've been searching for ? It would be interesting to know what obscure Prog titles are out of print. |
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Posted By: JD
Date Posted: December 27 2021 at 09:18
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You're right, they're not cheap. https://www.discogs.com/sell/release/2035247?ev=rb" rel="nofollow - https://www.discogs.com/sell/release/2035247?ev=rb
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Posted By: Chaser
Date Posted: December 27 2021 at 10:08
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Completely agree with you Jacob. I'm also "old school" in that I like to own the physical album (CD format) and some are devilishly difficult or impossible to get hold of. I tried to get hold if Anglagards Hybris for years, but you can't get it unless you want to pay silly money. James Baldwin did an interesting article on Museo Rosenbach's Zarathustra the other day, but try getting hold of this album on CD and its impossible! ------------- Songs cast a light on you |
Posted By: Chaser
Date Posted: December 27 2021 at 10:10
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Area's Arbeit Macht Frei is another one that I simply can't get hold of in CD format ------------- Songs cast a light on you |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: December 27 2021 at 10:36
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Hi, I think I have around 200 albums in my collection that are STILL not on CD and will probably never will be. It would be nice to see some things done properly and better (if that's possible) but I am not sure that some of these folks have the resources for it ... great example? Sensation's Fix. I'll make a list one of these days, but I am wanting to mp3 these things and posting them illegally so other folks can hear it. ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: December 27 2021 at 10:48
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I used to be the same until my CD collection hit somewhere around the 15,000 mark. Nothing wrong with listening on YouTube :) Contact some of the labels and push for reissues of titles you want. Also you can always make CDs out of any internet source by downloading the video and recording the audio and then ripping it to a CD and printing out the cover art. Not the same i know but at least you'd have a physical source. -------------  https://rateyourmusic.com/~siLLy_puPPy |
Posted By: Jacob Schoolcraft
Date Posted: December 27 2021 at 10:59
| Wow...that's interesting. Thanks everyone for responding! It must be the license process that makes life difficult idk? I'm guessing to license a certain Prog release is expensive and it might be a situation where once it's released it sells out quickly yet the label that licensed the recording is not making enough profit to release it a second time and so therefore it gets deleted and the price then gets ridiculously high whether it's a sealed copy or a used copy. I could be wrong. I'm thinking it must be difficult to be in the business handling that. |
Posted By: Jacob Schoolcraft
Date Posted: December 27 2021 at 11:03
| Silly Puppy, 15 thousand? Holy smokes! You have a museum! I'd love to see that collection. That is truly fascinating! |
Posted By: omphaloskepsis
Date Posted: December 27 2021 at 11:05
| L'estate Di San Martino- Talsete Di Marsantino is difficult to on CD by someone who will send it to USA. |
Posted By: Mirakaze
Date Posted: December 27 2021 at 11:42
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Tenko's Energeia, Beledo's El Céfiro and Museo Heterodoxo's De Los Brujos, Magos Y Alquimistas are seemingly non-existent in any form on the internet, and physical copies are either unavailable or else prohibitively expensive. me sad After glancing at my Discogs wantlist, some more out-of-print stuff that's hard to acquire at a reasonable price on CD that I can think of includes: * The Tony Williams Lifetime - The Old Bum's Rush * Tipographica - Tipographica * Thinking Plague - Early Plague Years * White Noise - White Noise 2: Concerto For Synthesizer as well as most Cardiacs albums and pretty much anything by Soft Heap ------------- https://mirasnelder.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow - Freelance composer, accepting commissions | https://mirasnelder.bandcamp.com/album/altered-acuity" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp page |
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: December 27 2021 at 11:51
If i had unlimited space and money, it would be many times that. I have a very eclectic palette and there's a lot of stuff in there that would make proggers cringe! Having said that i have a large amount of prog and metal and pretty much everything else! Including cheesy pop, reggae, R&B, punk etc ------------- https://rateyourmusic.com/~siLLy_puPPy |
Jacob Schoolcraft wrote:Posted By: Jacob Schoolcraft
Date Posted: December 27 2021 at 11:59
| Silly Puppy...it's good to be diverse regarding your taste in music and you certainly are. I have the same deal but nowhere near your league. I realize that a lot of Prog fans would cringe if they saw a cd in my collection such as Lucifer 1. Maybe even Metal purest would too...but I love that album. |
Posted By: Jacob Schoolcraft
Date Posted: December 27 2021 at 12:07
| Tony Williams Lifetime- The Old Bum's Rush, Thinking Plague- Early Plague Years, White Noise- White Noise 2- Concerto For Synthesizer, and Soft Heap! These I must listen to. |
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: December 27 2021 at 12:23
I have some seriously cringe-worthy additions! Barry Manilow, Olivia Newton-John, pop country artists, Spice Girls, New Kids On The Block etc I used to do DJ-ing so have a good collection of pop music I have many greatest hits of cheesy AOR bands, dance pop, disco, easy listening etc. Most of my music is cool though. Lots of prog, metal, classical, jazz, world ethnic music, experimental etc ------------- https://rateyourmusic.com/~siLLy_puPPy |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: December 27 2021 at 13:12
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More CDs go OOP than most people realize. As another physical media proponent, I'm aware of that painful reality. Eventually, some CDs do get reissued (if not here, perhaps in Japan), but many don't. There are many albums (various genres) from the '80s that have not been reissued, and some weren't even pressed on CD! Thankfully, there are good people out there who enjoy making vinyl and cassette rips for upload to YouTube. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: December 27 2021 at 14:11
Happily I have all of those. Though I also have a long list of unrequited wants. I just won't pay silly prices for a CD, so I am resigned to the fact that I'll never get many of them. My approach is this: - add to Discogs wants list. Then you get an email every day with new items of interest. - add to eBay saved searches, with email alerts. - sit back and wait patiently. Every now and then something that usually comes with a fancy asking price will pop up for peanuts and I'll pounce on it. Very satisfying when it happens! ------------- Soldato of the Pan Head Mafia. We'll make you an offer you can't listen to. http://bandcamp.com/jpillbox" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp Profile |
Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: December 27 2021 at 14:19
Concerning Cardiacs, are you aware that CDs are available direct from The Alphabet Business Concern? https://abc-mary.myshopify.com/collections/cds" rel="nofollow - https://abc-mary.myshopify.com/collections/cds ------------- Soldato of the Pan Head Mafia. We'll make you an offer you can't listen to. http://bandcamp.com/jpillbox" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp Profile |
Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: December 27 2021 at 14:40
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Among those on my list that I will probably never get: Il Baricentro - Sconcerto Carnascialia - s/t Yeti - Live at the Wreck Room Vol 1 & 2 Ciocolatta - Ciocolatta Box SBB - Complete Tapes 1974 Il Volo - s/t Jukka Gustavson - Toden Toistoa Tarantula Hawk - Desert Solitaire Canzoniere del Lazio - Miradas ------------- Soldato of the Pan Head Mafia. We'll make you an offer you can't listen to. http://bandcamp.com/jpillbox" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp Profile |
Posted By: Jacob Schoolcraft
Date Posted: December 27 2021 at 15:43
| Still keeping an eye out for Ruth White cds and most Electronic artists in the U.S. during the 60s. Mort Garson's 2 occult albums were released on cd and I picked those up quickly. Now they appear to be going out of print. Beaver And Krause Ragnarok has never been released on cd. Paul Beaver was a great pioneer of the synthesizer and an innovator . Ragnarok I want just for 3 Electronic pieces. I'm not particularly fond of the album. One Beaver & Krause album on Limelight and several bizarre Ruth White releases on Limelight. Wendy Carlos I have about 6 cds and most of her back catalog is out of print. I would seriously like to have the early Stomu Yamashta on cd. When he was more of an Avant-garde artist collaborating with others and prior to going to England , working with Hugh Hopper, Gary Boyle, etc and releasing about 5 solo albums that were Prog...sometimes sounding Canterbury with an Asian "feel" and Esoteric released those. Then he disappeared into a monastery for about a year and surfaced again with ceremonial music such as the Iroha-Ka series which was some of the darkest Electronic music and practically demonic. . Then he did the soundtrack to Tempest which was beautiful. All of the aforementioned have never been released on cd...ugh! He lives in a temple writing ceremonial music . I really hope to see this stuff released one day...but I sincerely doubt it ever will be. |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: December 27 2021 at 16:51
This got a vinyl reissue this year (multiple pressings), so...fingers crossed!
The 2010 Japanese remaster is readily available, but it's not cheap! 
CD-R only. These sorts of things only turn up when another collector on a site such as this wants to offload some merch.
A bona fide rarity!
This definitely needs a reissue.
This album has been reissued on CD many times in a jewel case or paper-sleeve (vinyl replica) format. The recent Sony reissues and the 2015 L'Espresso remaster are easy to find.
CD-R only. I doubt it will get a proper reissue unless a mystery benefactor chooses to issue their entire discography as a box set. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: Mirakaze
Date Posted: December 28 2021 at 01:27
Thanks! I don't know why it never occurred to me to look there. Sing To God may still be a little too pricey for my taste but I suppose that's to be expected of a double album
Really tragic, that; what do you do when the artist herself seemingly no longer wants her work, or anything else about herself, to be available to the public? I currently have 3 CDs by her, but my collection won't truly be complete until I get my hands on her bizarre crossover album with Weird Al Yankovic...  ------------- https://mirasnelder.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow - Freelance composer, accepting commissions | https://mirasnelder.bandcamp.com/album/altered-acuity" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp page |
Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: December 28 2021 at 01:36
 - as you say, easy to find, and I do now have it.------------- Soldato of the Pan Head Mafia. We'll make you an offer you can't listen to. http://bandcamp.com/jpillbox" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp Profile |
Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: December 28 2021 at 01:40
Expensive, but so worth it. Plus when you buy from the Alphabet Business Concern you can be assured that at least 0.5% of the money will go to the undeserving wretches in the band. ------------- Soldato of the Pan Head Mafia. We'll make you an offer you can't listen to. http://bandcamp.com/jpillbox" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp Profile |
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: December 28 2021 at 09:16
All CARDIACS cds are available on the official website. I don't think they are expensive at all considering how much they went for before they were reissued. 24 pounds for Sing To God may sound expensive but it's a freaking masterpiece! http://abc-mary.myshopify.com/collections/cds" rel="nofollow - https://abc-mary.myshopify.com/collections/cds ------------- https://rateyourmusic.com/~siLLy_puPPy |
Posted By: Jacob Schoolcraft
Date Posted: December 28 2021 at 09:55
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Posted By: Chaser
Date Posted: December 28 2021 at 10:16
Agree wholeheartedly with the comments on Sing to God! That's one I do own on CD and it was worth every one of its £24 from Alphabet. Cardiacs' masterpiece without any doubt (without any doubt in my mind anyway) ------------- Songs cast a light on you |
Posted By: Jacob Schoolcraft
Date Posted: December 28 2021 at 10:33
| In 1980 I collected all 10 volumes of Brian Eno's Obscure label series. Over the last 30 years possibly 4 or 5 of those volumes have been issued on cd . I've always dreamed of a box set. Each one as a gatefold with the original black covers. A booklet which details the history of the project. I would also love the entire catalog of Ron Geesin to be released on cd just like they were released on LP in the 70s . It seems highly unlikely |
Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: December 28 2021 at 10:54
Don't know whether you want their Live Album 'Buried Alive'.. but here it is: https://www.musicmagpie.co.uk/store/category/?keyword=anglagard
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: December 28 2021 at 12:19
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Reissuing CDs that are OOP, I doubt that happens. You might get a reissue of the CD on LP before, your best bet is to scour the ebay as well Discogs. But finding some of them for a couple bucks aint gonna happen, especially obscure titles. I'm also a physical media guy, but only LPs, there are many many titles that only came out on CD that are now out on LP version, but I'm not thinking the reverse will happen. I did buy a CD the other day, it was Gabriel's soundtrack for Passion-Last Temptation of Christ, bought for $1. You can't buy a pack of gum for a $1....... -------------   
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Posted By: Chaser
Date Posted: December 28 2021 at 14:05
Thanks Jared - I'll look into that - have to see if I can listen to it on YouTube first and see if I like the live version ------------- Songs cast a light on you |
Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: December 28 2021 at 18:25
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Grits : As the World Grits, on Cuneiform. A totally amazing mid 70s band who never had a proper album release until Cuneiform released their demos in the early 90s. Now out of print, and according to Steve Fiegenbaum, it is next to impossible that we will ever see a reissue (due, IIRC, to the wishes of the deceased composer’s estate). Thankfully I have a copy, but it’s sad that many more will not hear this band. Cuneiform keeps a close eye on illegal uploads of their releases too, so you won’t find it on YouTube. I certainly respect that vigilance, but still, I wish the music could come to light again. ------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: December 28 2021 at 21:28
I bought a copy through Import CD's on eBay a few years ago for about $20 AUD. 2014 reissue. Got a few of theirs for around the same price. You may be in luck. ------------- https://gabebuller.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - New album! http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385 |
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: December 28 2021 at 21:43
I see that one used at our local music store from time to time. Just a quick glance on Discogs, it's not really that hard to find or ridiculously expensive even for the newer remastered versions. I do recommend the remastered versions because they are of much better quality than some of the original CD releases. ------------- https://rateyourmusic.com/~siLLy_puPPy |
Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: December 29 2021 at 04:18
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: December 31 2021 at 13:26
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Sadly this is always a concern, which has added a little extra push when buying new CDs. Its always best not to wait and to buy. This obviously donsn't help with older, OOP stuff, but would prevent the situation from arising in the future. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Jacob Schoolcraft
Date Posted: January 01 2022 at 13:24
| I wish a wealthy eccentric who believes in merit and doesn't care about profit come along and invest in Prog. Is determined to license recordings either by contacting the original label or the artist themselves and paying them whatever they want. Design the cover to its true value, history in a booklet, etc..but release it a second time or a third time so the cd never goes out of print A person of this nature comes along once in a lifetime. The person's main interest is Prog, they are so wealthy they can afford to lose money, and the act itself brings them happiness..and it would solve an on going problem for all the hardcore supporters of Progressive Rock who would die for specific obscure Prog releases but are in a price range between 2 and 3 hundred dollars. |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: January 01 2022 at 13:37
A lot of cds are out of print. I could post my list from discogs. Pretty much everything I have on there is out of print on cd. 
I think because of the mass media's judgement that cds are a dying format, there is little interest in record companies to repress out of print cds (especially prog which is considered very niche to begin with).
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