ABBA prog??
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Topic: ABBA prog??
Posted By: horza
Subject: ABBA prog??
Date Posted: October 09 2005 at 08:31
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I have often wondered whether or not ABBA can be considered prog or at the very least prog related.
Consider the facts:-they had a keyboard player and he often played synthesiser,the band sometimes wore shiny metallic-looking outfits,they sang about epic events like battles (Waterloo),the bands name was made up of the bands initials just like ELP was!!! Lets have them in there along with all that other goth,death,bluegrass,melodic death,death goth,jazz death,gospel goth we have been discussing lately etc etc Anyone agree ??  ------------- Originally posted by darkshade: Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot. |
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Posted By: Ed_The_Dead
Date Posted: October 09 2005 at 08:38
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Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: October 09 2005 at 08:45
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You're going to be shot down in flames for that! But I understand completely where you're coming from. On ABBA The Album there is a suite, and "Eagle" is at least semi-prog in the fine orchestration and overall feel. The standard of the instumentation and vocals leaves many prog bands in the shade. And I know that maani is a big fan of "Dancing Queen" Kevlar vests at the ready... |
Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: October 09 2005 at 08:47
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ABBA = Not Prog!!!
------------- RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on! |
Posted By: horza
Date Posted: October 09 2005 at 08:47
I feel confident that we will be seeing ABBA albums being reviewed here soon 
they even had a tribute to Floyd (Money Money Money)  ------------- Originally posted by darkshade: Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot. |
Posted By: Ed_The_Dead
Date Posted: October 09 2005 at 08:58
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......
eem.... That was not a Joke?
Get that vest ready!!!!! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ed_the_dead/?chartstyle=asimpleblue5">
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Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: October 09 2005 at 09:00
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^ Agree! ABBA= NOT PROG!! ------------- RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on! |
Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: October 09 2005 at 09:00
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GIMME A BREAK....
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Posted By: Pafnutij
Date Posted: October 09 2005 at 09:03
| Prog pop anyone? |
Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: October 09 2005 at 09:04
not even close -------------
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Pafnutij wrote:Posted By: Eetu Pellonpaa
Date Posted: October 09 2005 at 09:08
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They are not a band, but canned herrings! |
Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: October 09 2005 at 09:08
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Bravo, Rico For the 3rd time: ABBA=NOT PROG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ------------- RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on! |
Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: October 09 2005 at 09:09
We have those in Norway too ------------- RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on! |
Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: October 09 2005 at 09:09
A bit shrunken emo,BJ...did it get soaked or what?  -------------
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Posted By: Eetu Pellonpaa
Date Posted: October 09 2005 at 09:13
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Posted By: Cesar Inca
Date Posted: October 09 2005 at 09:15
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Those facts are so very superficial... not even prog-pop. Now, having said that, the two writing/producing guys would have made some good prog music had they set their minds into it. The keyboard player had much finesse, not unlike the keyboardist of Kayak or Bo Hansson, while the guitar player could writ some damn good folk-oriented melodies: he would have made a good rhythm guitarist-backing vocalist. These two guys could have led or been part of a symphonic prog band, something like Atlas-meets-Kayak-Renaissance. But they didn't because they didn't want to - period. Another example: had Jeff Beck given his virtuousity and energy as a guitarist an extra touch of classicism and had he had a major taste for complex rhythm patterns and extended sonic experimentations, he would have made a damn good prog guitar player, something like Page-meets-Akkerman-meets-Holdsworth. But his musical ideology was very clear: either I do psychodelic hard rock or jazz-rock, nothing else. Regards. |
Posted By: horza
Date Posted: October 09 2005 at 09:18
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ABBA=DON'T EVEN GO THERE ------------- Originally posted by darkshade: Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot. |
Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: October 09 2005 at 09:21
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Posted By: horza
Date Posted: October 09 2005 at 09:21
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You surprise me Bj !! You too Rico ------------- Originally posted by darkshade: Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot. |
Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: October 09 2005 at 09:22
 ------------- RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on! |
Posted By: Pafnutij
Date Posted: October 09 2005 at 09:32
I heard they were sued by a fish company named Abba during their heyday |
Posted By: Eetu Pellonpaa
Date Posted: October 09 2005 at 09:48
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^ Oh! Never heard that before...
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Posted By: Sir Hogweed
Date Posted: October 09 2005 at 09:53
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Their albums Abbacab and Abba Road had some prog elements. |
Posted By: Gronostay
Date Posted: October 09 2005 at 09:55
| Of caurse - ABBA is prog |
Posted By: BePinkTheater
Date Posted: October 09 2005 at 10:13
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I love how everyone is taking this seriosuly like " NOOOnONONONOO!! ABBA IS NOT PROG !!!!! ARGHAGRARGRGG!!!"
guys...it was jsut a joke ------------- I can strangle a canary in a tin can and it would be really original, but that wouldn't save it from sounding like utter sh*t. -Stone Beard |
Posted By: Frasse
Date Posted: October 09 2005 at 10:16
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GAAAAAAHHHH Why does this topic exists?!? *going ouside to vomit* *return* Ok, as mentioned, Björn & Benny could do prog if they had wanted to. But instead they teamed up with two pop-girls. Anne-Frid has in fact made the worst pop-song ever, a cover of Bowies 'Life on Mars' with swedish lyrics wich left me with stomache, but that's another story. Abba is a pop group (and swedens largest sea-food company) who have more in common with dance music, imho the opposite of prog. Good you brought your kevlar vests, because me and my machine gun is going downtown |
Posted By: Frasse
Date Posted: October 09 2005 at 10:17
it was a bad joke |
Posted By: Politician
Date Posted: October 09 2005 at 10:26
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I've always thought of ABBA as a prog band in denial - just listen to some
of the complexity of their hit singles (notably the superb "Knowing Me, Knowing You"). I also believe that very many prog fans could enjoy much of their work - I know I do. But they're certainly not prog per se - the only overtly progressive tracks of their career were "Intermezzo No. 1", "Eagle" and "The Visitors". Ultimately, ABBA suffered from the malaise of all too many pop bands - they concentrated heavily on producing great singles, and consequently included inordinate amounts of crap on their albums. None of their many LPs is consistently good ("Super Trouper" being probably the best), although all contain something of excellence. Even the album with the most highpoints, "Arrival" ("Knowing Me, Knowing You", "Dancing Queen", "Tiger", "Money, Money, Money" and the title track) contains two songs so badly composed (especially the lyrics) as to make me howl with laughter - "When I Kissed The Teacher" and "Dum Dum Diddle" (subject matter: the writer wishes he were a violin). But ABBA are certainly closer to EARTH & FIRE than, say, ACE OF BASE or STEPS, to name just two dreadful bubblegum pop acts with whom they are often compared. |
Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: October 09 2005 at 11:29
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Horza (and others), Please start threads in the correct sections. The prog music lounge is only for bands currently listed in the archives. Discussions on whether bands should be added shoudl take place in "Bands and albums", where I've moved this thread to. |
Posted By: horza
Date Posted: October 09 2005 at 12:09
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sorry
------------- Originally posted by darkshade: Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot. |
Posted By: PROGMAN
Date Posted: October 11 2005 at 06:58
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Posted By: Seyo
Date Posted: October 11 2005 at 10:26
Oh yes, please add everything! Just make sure not to forget Frank Sinatra, Bob Dylan, Demis Roussos or Dean Martin.... eventually Madonna and Britney 
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Posted By: krusty
Date Posted: October 11 2005 at 12:15
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Some people do struggle with irony don't they? Plus I thought some of Steve Howe's finest work is on the track "Super Tropper" ------------- http://www.humanism.org.uk/site/cms/contentChapterView.asp?chapter=309" rel="nofollow - Humanism |
Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: October 13 2005 at 17:21
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I preferred Steve Hackett's work in Super Trooper's Ready... |
Posted By: Bryan
Date Posted: October 13 2005 at 17:41
| I don't know what's funnier... the thread, or the number of people who missed the joke. |
Posted By: Angeldust
Date Posted: October 13 2005 at 21:39
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Abba is a great band.Not a prog one though... ------------- 
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Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: October 14 2005 at 15:36
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Oh come on... "Knowing Me, Knowing You... Aha!!!" How much more proggy can you get? If it's prog enough for Alan's psychedelic breakfast, it's prog enough for me
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Posted By: The Wizard
Date Posted: October 15 2005 at 18:59
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I hope your not trying to insult me for trying to add The Who. I agree that Black Sabbath, Zep, and Cream are stretches, but under close examination The Who are prog. -------------  
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Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: October 16 2005 at 16:10
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Definitely not - but remember that Andrew Lloyd Webber produced "Joseph and the Technicolor Dreamcoat" (the 1st Rock Opera), so if the Who are here, Andrew Lloyd Webber MUST also be included. "Jesus Christ Superstar" has the greatest story ever told as its core, and some versions have Ian Gillan and other prog musicians playing... and it's miles better as a rock opera than "Tommy", in that it's actually an opera with recitative and aria and stuff. Then there's ALW's Variations on a theme of Paganini, performed mainly by Colosseum II and part of Genesis, which is actually rather good. So I'm not kidding about ALW. Would you want ALW in the archives? |
Posted By: Ed_The_Dead
Date Posted: October 16 2005 at 16:38
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Damn You, horza.. You know how 2 draw attention 2 your threads I'm pretty sure there's something fishy bout this topic... Horza is trying 2 send some trojan virs through this thread... They will blow Our comps up & then He will take over prog Archives!!! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ed_the_dead/?chartstyle=asimpleblue5">
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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: October 16 2005 at 16:48
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Well, let's make it a bit harder. Is Chess prog? Chess, you know, the concept album by the 2 Abba gentlemen and... I believe it was Tim Rice? Okay, that's an easy one, isn't it? The answer is of course...
No! The album is not bad though... It's almost a bridge between Abba and prog. Don't you think? |