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Topic: Prog Magazine Top 2021 Albums
Posted By: Heart of the Matter
Subject: Prog Magazine Top 2021 Albums
Date Posted: November 28 2021 at 08:09


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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: November 28 2021 at 08:23
I have a grand total of one of those, Hedvig.

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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 28 2021 at 08:32
I know and listened to six of those. 


Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: November 28 2021 at 09:54
Any list that includes the new Caravan album as a top prog album of the year obviously doesn't listen to a wide variety of prog! This a list of prog lite for those who can't stomach the really good stuff. I mean i love both the Iron Maiden and Gojira but they are really pseudo-prog not the real thing. Not one of those albums is inventive or pushing the boundaries of progressive music. Thanks for sharing but i'm not impressed Wink


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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: November 28 2021 at 10:01
No. 2 just straight up sucks lol. Never even heard of No. 1. 


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 28 2021 at 10:07
Iron Maiden should not be in this list. There, I said it. LOL


Posted By: Mirakaze
Date Posted: November 28 2021 at 10:14
Hm, I'll give The Art Of Losing a listen, although this list seems to be heavily skewed towards certain subgenres that don't normally do much for me. I've only heard seven of these and the only one of them that I liked was Ding Dong, You're Dead.


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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 28 2021 at 10:16
Where is Yes - The Quest?
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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: November 28 2021 at 10:22
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Iron Maiden should not be in this list. There, I said it. LOL


And you are SOOOOO right for saying it. In a year that has some extremely innovative prog ranging from Black Midi in avant to Ad Nauseum in tech/extreme and other outstanding releases such as Shamblemaths and many, many more, this list should be called the best crossover prog list.

Granted it's getting harder and harder for anyone to keep up with it all though!


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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 28 2021 at 10:32
Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Iron Maiden should not be in this list. There, I said it. LOL


And you are SOOOOO right for saying it. In a year that has some extremely innovative prog ranging from Black Midi in avant to Ad Nauseum in tech/extreme and other outstanding releases such as Shamblemaths and many, many more, this list should be called the best crossover prog list.

Granted it's getting harder and harder for anyone to keep up with it all though!

I rated the album  generously a 7/10 on a metal site.
Also I don't think it's a progressive metal album. 


Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: November 28 2021 at 10:35
It's kind of an embarrassing list for a magazine that calls itself Prog. The Wilson album wouldn't make any list I would make even if I extended it out to 300 albums.

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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: November 28 2021 at 10:35
^  i gave it 4 stars simply because it's really enjoyable after repeat visits but long drawn out tracks don't make it progressive


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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 28 2021 at 10:37
Originally posted by progaardvark progaardvark wrote:

It's kind of an embarrassing list for a magazine that calls itself Prog. The Wilson album wouldn't make any list I would make even if I extended it out to 300 albums.

I made a list else where, 102 albums so far, Wilson and Maiden did not make the list. LOL


Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: November 28 2021 at 10:38
Originally posted by progaardvark progaardvark wrote:

It's kind of an embarrassing list for a magazine that calls itself Prog. The Wilson album wouldn't make any list I would make even if I extended it out to 300 albums.


Or top 10,000. It's art pop not prog. It does signify that this list bites LOL


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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 28 2021 at 10:39
Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Originally posted by progaardvark progaardvark wrote:

It's kind of an embarrassing list for a magazine that calls itself Prog. The Wilson album wouldn't make any list I would make even if I extended it out to 300 albums.


Or top 10,000. It's art pop not prog. It does signify that this list bites LOL

the problem is not that it's art-pop, I just did not find it that interesting. 


Posted By: prog_traveller!!
Date Posted: November 28 2021 at 10:41
To be honest I'm not a fan of this list at all. None of these will be in my top 10 this year.


Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: November 28 2021 at 10:51
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Originally posted by progaardvark progaardvark wrote:

It's kind of an embarrassing list for a magazine that calls itself Prog. The Wilson album wouldn't make any list I would make even if I extended it out to 300 albums.


Or top 10,000. It's art pop not prog. It does signify that this list bites LOL

the problem is not that it's art-pop, I just did not find it that interesting. 


No, it IS a problem. It's supposed to be a prog list. Just because ole Stevie was in Porcupine Tree doesn't make everything he vomits a candidate for best prog list.


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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 28 2021 at 10:58
Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Originally posted by progaardvark progaardvark wrote:

It's kind of an embarrassing list for a magazine that calls itself Prog. The Wilson album wouldn't make any list I would make even if I extended it out to 300 albums.


Or top 10,000. It's art pop not prog. It does signify that this list bites LOL

the problem is not that it's art-pop, I just did not find it that interesting. 


No, it IS a problem. It's supposed to be a prog list. Just because ole Stevie was in Porcupine Tree doesn't make everything he vomits a candidate for best prog list.

LOL That was brutal. 


Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: November 28 2021 at 11:01
Y'all are so grumpy. It's not like our individual top 2021 albums would be agreed upon. Dewa Budjana anyone?


Posted By: Deadwing
Date Posted: November 28 2021 at 11:43
hmmm Gotta check that number 1.
They surely liked The future Bites, though! (I like it too, but it wouldn't be that high on my list)


Posted By: EduTatsumi
Date Posted: November 28 2021 at 12:01
It's an insult that this crap Steven Wilson album is at number two. Comparing this album to "Ok Computer" is complete nonsense.

The only list he deserves to be on is the most disappointing albums of 2021


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 28 2021 at 12:03
it's just a list and lists are subjective. One could agree or disagree, that's all. 


Posted By: Zeph
Date Posted: November 28 2021 at 13:17
Coming from something calling itself Prog Magazine, I find this list quite silly, but magazines will always magazine.

If I made a list of the best prog magazines, PM would not be on it.

I like the new Mollestad album though.


Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: November 28 2021 at 14:06
Originally posted by Zeph Zeph wrote:

If I made a list of the best prog magazines, PM would not be on it.
Are there any other prog magazines? 


Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: November 28 2021 at 14:23
Do people still buy magazines?
I see them in stores and it feels like relics from the dinosaur days.


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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: November 28 2021 at 14:29
They always seem to have the same bands from the same labels. Also, it's almost like Steve Wilson pays them to have an album in their list no matter what it sounds like. Confused


Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: November 28 2021 at 14:36
Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Do people still buy magazines?
I see them in stores and it feels like relics from the dinosaur days.

Yes.

Some of us, strangely, prefer to read stuff on paper rather than wasting our time goggling at inanities on a screen.

Oh, wait……………


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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: November 29 2021 at 01:29
I own and have heard 4 of the albums . 
Frost* - Day and Age is my favourite album of the year. Also a fan of BBT and Steve Hackett and both will feature high up in my list as well.
Steven Wilson. I guess this is included for 'political' reasons. They probably don't want to get on his wrong side and so for self survival reasons are buttering him up a bit. That's my guess. It's a 3 star album and honestly I do like some of the tracks on it but NO2 for the year is very perplexing.
BTW I don't have any problem with Iron Maiden being included in a prog list whatsoever! (but I've not heard the album)


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 29 2021 at 01:37
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

BTW I don't have any problem with Iron Maiden being included in a prog list whatsoever! (but I've not heard the album)

so many better releases than the new Maiden. Also they are not progressive metal, or even progressive I dare say,  with a lot of their songs being repetitive and being a bit too long, predictably starting with a long intro-verse-chorus- long solos - verse-chorus -outro. And this happened on all long songs on the new album. It gets tiring at some point. 


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: November 29 2021 at 01:40
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

BTW I don't have any problem with Iron Maiden being included in a prog list whatsoever! (but I've not heard the album)

so many better releases than the new Maiden. Also they are not progressive metal, or even progressive I dare say,  with a lot of their songs being repetitive and being a bit too long, predictably starting with a long intro-verse-chorus- long solos - verse-chorus -outro. And this happened on all long songs on the new album. It gets tiring at some point. 

I can't argue specifically about the latest album , and yes I agree they have not progressed that much Historically I believe the albums they made in the eighties are important and progressive musically speaking ,whether you label them 'progressive metal' or not. (I would).


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 29 2021 at 01:44
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

BTW I don't have any problem with Iron Maiden being included in a prog list whatsoever! (but I've not heard the album)

so many better releases than the new Maiden. Also they are not progressive metal, or even progressive I dare say,  with a lot of their songs being repetitive and being a bit too long, predictably starting with a long intro-verse-chorus- long solos - verse-chorus -outro. And this happened on all long songs on the new album. It gets tiring at some point. 

I can't argue specifically about the latest album , and yes I agree they have not progressed that much Historically I believe the albums they made in the eighties are important and progressive musically speaking ,whether you label them 'progressive metal' or not. (I would).

their long(er) songs after Brave New World (some songs there are repetitive, but it not annoying, at least not then, but starting with the next album) are like that. Predictably there is a pattern and it gets old. 


Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: November 29 2021 at 01:55
its a bit sh*t 

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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: November 29 2021 at 02:12
^ don't mince your words please LOL


Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: November 29 2021 at 02:40
They should just let Sid Smith do their list, then it wouldn't be sh*t.  

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Posted By: PhideauxFan
Date Posted: November 29 2021 at 02:58
Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Do people still buy magazines?
I see them in stores and it feels like relics from the dinosaur days.
I still buy Big Bang Magazine (France) and Prog-résiste (Belgium). There are more "progressive" discoveries in these magazines than on Internet for me. And for metal music, I read Rock Hard.
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Posted By: Heart of the Matter
Date Posted: November 29 2021 at 07:23
Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Y'all are so grumpy. It's not like our individual top 2021 albums would be agreed upon. Dewa Budjana anyone?

I like the Indonesian guy, but you're right, intersubjective agreement doesn't look easy.


Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: November 30 2021 at 16:01
I honestly thought there was nothing here worth while. I endured most of this list that I hadn't heard already. Actually, the Isildur's Bane/PH album is fantastic. Just weird and complex enough to hold my interest. Will likely make my list.

Most of the list is pretty pedestrian and very borderline progressive by my standards.


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Posted By: DamoXt7942
Date Posted: November 30 2021 at 16:23
What a shame. I've not listened to any Top 20 album yet. Pinch

I'll get busy this yearend. 


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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: November 30 2021 at 20:25
Originally posted by DamoXt7942 DamoXt7942 wrote:

What a shame. I've not listened to any Top 20 album yet. Pinch

I'll get busy this yearend. 

LOLLOL

I think our list will be better, especially since they omitted black midi.


Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: November 30 2021 at 21:37
Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Iron Maiden should not be in this list. There, I said it. LOL


And you are SOOOOO right for saying it. In a year that has some extremely innovative prog ranging from Black Midi in avant to Ad Nauseum in tech/extreme and other outstanding releases such as Shamblemaths and many, many more, this list should be called the best crossover prog list.

Granted it's getting harder and harder for anyone to keep up with it all though!

The Black Midi and Ad Nauseam records are simply amazing! 


Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: December 03 2021 at 06:25
How do they do this when 2021 is not even over yet? 

I swear I need a couple of months after New Year's to digest all of a year's music! And even then I'm always discovering things I missed--sometimes years later!



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Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: December 03 2021 at 06:48
Originally posted by BrufordFreak BrufordFreak wrote:

How do they do this when 2021 is not even over yet? 

I swear I need a couple of months after New Year's to digest all of a year's music! And even then I'm always discovering things I missed--sometimes years later!



I guess they have heard everything that will be released this year, as presumably journalists get access to advance copies?  And it's their job to listen to them, whereas we don't have the time!!



Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: December 03 2021 at 06:55
Hi,

The one thing that is really scary for me, is that PA seems to be out of touch with the listing ... of the whole thing, I only see posts on 3 of those in the list (regularly), and too many on "nothing", except top 69th album!

I have heard at least 5 more of those and enjoy them, but the listing is really weak and not capable of "expanding" at all. A couple of looks at Space Pirate Radio listings, would show real quick ... where is the new stuff? ... instead of half the listing being the same old chit!


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Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: December 03 2021 at 07:07
Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

PA seems to be out of touch


LOL


Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: December 03 2021 at 11:07
I own 3 on this list (SW, IM and Transatlantic), have listened to maybe another 3-4 online just to see if I wanna buy the physical media...Well I didn't. I had some high hopes for DT but that is now utterly lone gone, they truly are progmetal by numbers now.
Leprous and Frost were interesting but I don't see myself having repeated listens on those.

Having SW on the list period but to even put him in the top 5 is only playing to those who are just getting into this music, as stated very very prog lite, it's almost click bait. For me its an enjoyable album but not to be mentioned on a prog album list. SW should be pissed that it is even there, he knows it's not prog and as much as he hates genre labels should detest Prog Mag even mentioning his last album.....That was not his target audience with the album.

The rest of the albums I have no interest in delving into based on what I have heard in the past. 


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Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: December 03 2021 at 11:11
Originally posted by BrufordFreak BrufordFreak wrote:

How do they do this when 2021 is not even over yet? 

I swear I need a couple of months after New Year's to digest all of a year's music! And even then I'm always discovering things I missed--sometimes years later!
They already know how much each label spent on advertising in the mag for the first ten months of the year...




Me, I still don't know what my top albums of 1973 are. Keeps changing.


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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: December 03 2021 at 11:42
Originally posted by Mascodagama Mascodagama wrote:

They already know how much each label spent on advertising in the mag for the first ten months of the year...

Not to mention the not inconsiderable sums these small labels have to pay to get one of their stable to feature on the cover CD... 


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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: December 04 2021 at 08:55
Originally posted by essexboyinwales essexboyinwales wrote:

Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

PA seems to be out of touch


LOL

Hi,

I don't mean that in a bad way ... however, that listing is sad and not very progressive when so many of the folks listed are has beens that we have heard before, and really ... are no longer enthused by! I doubt that bands like DT, Transatlantic and Iron Maiden can get past their illusions of grandeur, in their music, which is more of a repetition of what they have done before than otherwise. And we're talking at least 8 of those listed here, which suggests that the folks that created this listing did not hear a whole lot of anything else! 

I almost think, and hope, that if we did this here today on PA the list would be quite different and not so admired and kissed by the better known bands. I find it sad ... Kairon;IRSE ... Agusa ... Patrick Gautier ... Gert Emmens ... and many others, have put out stuff that is very superior to that which is listed here, but it won't get a chance, because of the commerciality of the bands listed on that magazine, which makes you wonder who their owners and sponsors are, don't you think? And there should be at least one if not two, Japanese listings in there of some very well done stuff. It is crazy to think that we allow our tastes to be "dictated" by someone that "owns" the magazine, and publishes stuff like that. A total indictment of the abuse of power and then saying it is the public's vote! And worse ... we go and listen to those albums giving that list a bigger credibility than it deserves!

It's like saying we're empty and can not find great music on our own! Confused  We have to have someone dictate to us what "good" (or evil on Sundays!) is all about!


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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: December 04 2021 at 09:09
Originally posted by BrufordFreak BrufordFreak wrote:

How do they do this when 2021 is not even over yet? 

I swear I need a couple of months after New Year's to digest all of a year's music! And even then I'm always discovering things I missed--sometimes years later!



Given their dreadful selections, they probably don't realize that the year ISN'T over yet! LOL


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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: December 06 2021 at 02:43
Originally posted by essexboyinwales essexboyinwales wrote:

Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

PA seems to be out of touch


LOL

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