Brain Salad Surgery vs Love Beach
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Topic: Brain Salad Surgery vs Love Beach
Posted By: SuperMetro
Subject: Brain Salad Surgery vs Love Beach
Date Posted: November 23 2021 at 21:02
| Welcome back my friends to that show that never ends. Man both are legendary albums, but I got to go with BSS for now. That also is not BS, it is Beautiful Synthesizer Sounds. |
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Posted By: Necrotica
Date Posted: November 23 2021 at 21:38
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Brain Salad Surgery is my obvious choice here, but I do maintain that Love Beach isn't entirely as bad as some people make it out to be. There are serious duds on it of course (The Gambler being the biggest example imo), but most of the record is just decent, inoffensive pop rock with a few prog touches. Plus, some of the piano sections in the Memoirs suite are quite beautiful. If anything, In the Hot Seat is the band's real rock bottom as far as I'm concerned  Also, Brain Salad Surgery is not even my favorite ELP  ------------- Take me down, to the underground Won't you take me down, to the underground Why oh why, there is no light And if I can't sleep, can you hold my life https://www.youtube.com/@CocoonMasterBrendan-wh3sd |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: November 23 2021 at 21:48
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lol bss ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: November 23 2021 at 22:18
| Brain Salad Surgery of course. |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 23 2021 at 22:35
| Brain Salad Surgery |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: November 23 2021 at 23:04
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Hooray! Another joke poll! Bee eSs eSs! ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: November 23 2021 at 23:06
I bet it's Tarkus, though I'll be delighted if you say it's the debut.  ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Necrotica wrote:Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: November 23 2021 at 23:35
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I'd like to hear the rationale of those two bleak souls who voted for Love Beach. Is it due to having a thing for chest hair and man nipples? When Keith Emerson stated the album was "an embarrassment against everything I've worked for," then perhaps you might question your discernment of music. ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: November 24 2021 at 00:19
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Is this knock out season, poll flagged for miss match, like putting Daredevil in the boxing ring against the Thing, its clubbering time for Brain Salad Surgery -------------  
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: November 24 2021 at 00:44
| Love Beach is definitely the more consistent and 'together' record. It showed the band at it's most mature able to avoid the abstract pretentious lyrics for a more down to earth approach. BSS just has so many annoying parts as the band is playing at odds with itself and the over use of Moog just glosses over the issues. Love Beach is the 5 star masterpiece , Keith was obviously high on something to not recognise it at the time. |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 24 2021 at 00:46
sarcasm?  I honestly can't tell.
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: November 24 2021 at 00:48
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 24 2021 at 00:52
well, I've just read your Love Beach review, even learned a new word
("naff"). |
Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: November 24 2021 at 01:53
You've never heard the word naff?! Naff off Anyway, based on Richard's post I will have to check out this Love Beach album.... |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 24 2021 at 02:01
no, I haven't. Where would I hear it? Where would i hear British slang? Maybe in a British movie or something. And if there was, I probably missed it.
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Posted By: Rottenprogger
Date Posted: November 24 2021 at 02:02
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Okay, who are the three people who voted for Love Beach? I just wanna talk
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 24 2021 at 02:04
none of them commented.
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: November 24 2021 at 02:25
I think you were high on something when you wrote this Richard.
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: November 24 2021 at 02:26
It must have been P.Paul and 2 other alter-egos. Nobody else would vote for it. Mind you, he'd be proud to tell us that he'd voted for it.
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Posted By: Necrotica
Date Posted: November 24 2021 at 02:37
It is Tarkus (despite a few questionable songs on side B), although the debut is my second favorite  And then BSS and Trilogy are fighting for the third spot after that------------- Take me down, to the underground Won't you take me down, to the underground Why oh why, there is no light And if I can't sleep, can you hold my life https://www.youtube.com/@CocoonMasterBrendan-wh3sd |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: November 24 2021 at 02:45
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Am I the only one who likes Works? ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 24 2021 at 02:48
I like it, too.  oops, wrong Works. |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: November 24 2021 at 02:51
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Even more wrong...  ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: Necrotica
Date Posted: November 24 2021 at 02:51
Sadly that's my least favorite Queen album  ------------- Take me down, to the underground Won't you take me down, to the underground Why oh why, there is no light And if I can't sleep, can you hold my life https://www.youtube.com/@CocoonMasterBrendan-wh3sd |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 24 2021 at 02:57
Really? Then it means you like Hot Space more? Well then, you've got some
 from me.  |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 24 2021 at 03:01
Love Beach easily wins here for me, mainly because it features one of my all-time favourite ELP songs.  ELP - All I Want is You |
Posted By: Necrotica
Date Posted: November 24 2021 at 03:02
Yep! At least Hot Space was an attempt to try something new. And while it didn't always work (there's some really cringey stuff on it), there were quite a few tracks I still enjoyed - Action This Day, Staying Power, Under Pressure, Put Out the Fire, etc. Not to mention, the album was one of the biggest inspirations for Michael Jackson's Thriller - that's gotta count for something! The Works on the hand, is so desperate to recapture past glories in my opinion. Man on the Prowl is just discount Crazy Little Thing Called Love, and Radio Ga Ga captures all the worst aspects of 80s pop rock. There are still a few good tracks like Hammer to Fall and I Want to Break Free, but The Works is the one Queen album I never want to revisit whenever I marathon their discog. Yeah sorry, I'm kinda passionate when discussing Queen. They're in my top 5 bands of all time
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Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: November 24 2021 at 03:32
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I've never listened to Love Beach, but based on what I've read about it, I can't imagine it being preferable to one of my all-time favourite albums. So I'll vote for Brain Salad Surgery anyway. ------------- No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man. |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 24 2021 at 03:51
I also love Queen, always have. I've always loved Radio Gaga, never had any issue with it. Also best song on The works is the overlooked Keep Passing the Open Windows, the hidden gem of the album.
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Posted By: Rick1
Date Posted: November 24 2021 at 03:54
| So an ELP poll is really about Queen? |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 24 2021 at 03:55
oh, you wanted to chat about Love Beach, I'll get out of the way... carry on...
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Posted By: Necrotica
Date Posted: November 24 2021 at 04:09
Glad to see another Queen lover here; I actually vouched for a long time for them to become a full-fledged prog band on the site. Obviously that never happened In any case, I respect your opinion. And I do enjoy a lot of their later work in general. The Miracle has excellent tracks like Breakthru and I Want It All, not to mention the kickass closer Was It All Worth It. Meanwhile, Innuendo is one of my top 5 Queen albums ever. Such a great way to go out for Freddie ------------- Take me down, to the underground Won't you take me down, to the underground Why oh why, there is no light And if I can't sleep, can you hold my life https://www.youtube.com/@CocoonMasterBrendan-wh3sd |
Posted By: Necrotica
Date Posted: November 24 2021 at 04:11
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Also, I think it's pretty funny how Queen II is still considered a "prog-related" album and yet it's one of the highest-rated albums on the entire site
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 24 2021 at 04:13
a great album is a great album, why wouldn't it be rated highly?
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Posted By: Necrotica
Date Posted: November 24 2021 at 04:16
True, true. Queen II and A Night at the Opera never get old. I think I was speaking more to the fact that a lot of people are stubborn as to what's prog or not on the site ------------- Take me down, to the underground Won't you take me down, to the underground Why oh why, there is no light And if I can't sleep, can you hold my life https://www.youtube.com/@CocoonMasterBrendan-wh3sd |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: November 24 2021 at 04:16
It's not particularly funny, Queen are a prog-related band here. I don't think many people would argue that they are a prog band. |
Posted By: Necrotica
Date Posted: November 24 2021 at 04:21
That's not what I meant; I'm fine with them being a prog-related band. It just kinda amused me that the album rated so much higher than a lot of bands who are actually considered prog on the site. ------------- Take me down, to the underground Won't you take me down, to the underground Why oh why, there is no light And if I can't sleep, can you hold my life https://www.youtube.com/@CocoonMasterBrendan-wh3sd |
Posted By: Necrotica
Date Posted: November 24 2021 at 04:22
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In any case, I love Queen II. That's all I meant though ------------- Take me down, to the underground Won't you take me down, to the underground Why oh why, there is no light And if I can't sleep, can you hold my life https://www.youtube.com/@CocoonMasterBrendan-wh3sd |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 24 2021 at 04:34
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who voted for Love Beach other than Paul? Trolling I bet. Show yourselves whoever you are!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: November 24 2021 at 04:39
Fair enough, it's a pretty prog album.
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Posted By: JD
Date Posted: November 24 2021 at 05:19
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Posted By: Rick1
Date Posted: November 24 2021 at 05:32
| I think Canario is excellent and it's a shame it was never played live. |
Posted By: JD
Date Posted: November 24 2021 at 05:42
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^Oops, forgot about that one. Yup it's the best off side one. ------------- Thank you for supporting independently produced music |
Posted By: VianaProghead
Date Posted: November 24 2021 at 08:11
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Of course Brain Salad Surgery, which probably the best, or at least the most balanced studio album of them. However I also think that Love Beach isn't as bad as many consider. For instance, Works II is worse.
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Posted By: JD
Date Posted: November 24 2021 at 08:56
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Given that it's a spill tray, a table scraps, a leftover meal if you will of ELP tunes I really don't think we could expect anything less out of this album. Although...even a meal of leftovers might have a nice bite or two to it. ------------- Thank you for supporting independently produced music |
Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: November 24 2021 at 09:54
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You're putting me on. A good April Fool's entry. BSS. ------------- "It just has none of the qualities of your work that I find interesting. Abandon [?] it." - Eno |
Posted By: Progishness
Date Posted: November 24 2021 at 10:39
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This has got to be a wind up, right? ------------- "We're going to need a bigger swear jar." Chloë Grace Moretz as Mindy McCready aka 'Hit Girl' in Kick-Ass 2 |
Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: November 24 2021 at 10:59
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Love Beach has some decent if cheesy pop songs, but that is not what we are interested in as proggers, is it? Memoirs shows some serious attempt at composition but it ultimately falls flat on its face. Very ungentlemanly. I suspect its votes were done in irony or a means to balance out the poll. BSS is the one in all seriousness. ------------- The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty" |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: November 24 2021 at 11:19
That reminds me: Has any band (prog or otherwise) covered "Taste of My Love"? Oh, you look so hungry, woman Could it be for a taste of my love Down on your knees Well, I do feel lonely, woman Help yourself to a taste of my love Call up room service Yeah, taste it, taste it, taste it ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: November 24 2021 at 11:20
I have to ask: Weren't you in California yesterday? ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: omphaloskepsis
Date Posted: November 24 2021 at 11:33
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BSS |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: November 24 2021 at 11:48
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Inspired by this poll, for the first time I gave two songs from Love Beach a try, namely Canario and Memoirs... Canario is listenable but I'm not particularly keen on it. Memoirs is rather good if somewhat too long for the substance. Given that people say the others are far worse, I'm not really motivated to listen to the rest, although at least listening to these two wasn't exactly an ordeal. |
Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: November 24 2021 at 12:26
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I voted for more soft pretzels. ------------- ---------- i'm shopping for a new oil-cured sinus bag that's a happy bag of lettuce this car smells like cartilage nothing beats a good video about fractions |
Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: November 24 2021 at 13:37
Oh dear... |
Posted By: felonafan
Date Posted: November 24 2021 at 13:38
| BSS |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: November 24 2021 at 13:57
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That ELP would present such lyrics isn't surprising for band that named an album Brain Salad Surgery, which refers to oral sex on a man (note the suggestive Giger album cover). I don't find the lyrics to "Taste My Love" witty or erotic, but very distasteful -- crude and problematic (doubt many feminists would appreciate them). This points to a general feeling I have about ELP generally and is a reason why I don't much like the band (I quite like the debut), and it is that I find the band vulgar. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: November 24 2021 at 14:11
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Shouldn't this poll be JFF? It is just for fun, isn't it? ------------- This message was brought to you by a proud supporter of the Deep State. |
Posted By: Progfan1958
Date Posted: November 24 2021 at 14:21
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"Brain Salad Surgery" by far for me. I even rate BSS ahead of "Close To The Edge" and "Selling England By The Pound". I expect I'm in a minority though. ------------- Progfan1958 "Peace to you all" "La paix est avec vous" "Pax vobiscum" "Al salaam a'alaykum" "Vrede zij met u allen" "Shalom aleichem" |
Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: November 24 2021 at 14:39
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Strange poll - it's not April 1. Brain Salad Surgery, of course. ------------- Welcome to the middle of the film. |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: November 24 2021 at 15:04
You nailed exactly why I think it's such a silly song: it's not witty at all. Those lyrics are nothing short of overt. As in "how many ways can I describe a sex act, without or without metaphor." Not sure why Lake and Sinfield stooped to that level. At least the title of BSS was cryptic for the time. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: November 24 2021 at 15:12
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Brain Salad Surgery 3* Love Beach 1* ------------- A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life. |
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: November 24 2021 at 15:53
Seriously?  -------------  https://rateyourmusic.com/~siLLy_puPPy |
Posted By: Rottenprogger
Date Posted: November 24 2021 at 17:56
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I choose to believe that the same three people who voted for Love Blecch just voted for it again. What a bunch of masochists!
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Posted By: SuperMetro
Date Posted: November 24 2021 at 18:16
| I think they are just sympathy votes, because they know that Love Beach sucks, but chooses to vote it, simply so it could have a vote. |
Posted By: iluvmarillion
Date Posted: November 24 2021 at 19:31
| It's good to have differences in musical opinion but voting against BSS here just to be different doesn't make much sense to me. |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: November 24 2021 at 19:46
| Is this poll for real? And I'm not even particularly a fan of Brain Salad. |
Posted By: Necrotica
Date Posted: November 24 2021 at 21:17
Somehow I forgot to change my location all this time. Since I'm a collaborator now, I suppose I should update a few things ------------- Take me down, to the underground Won't you take me down, to the underground Why oh why, there is no light And if I can't sleep, can you hold my life https://www.youtube.com/@CocoonMasterBrendan-wh3sd |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: November 25 2021 at 00:53
I nearly fell off my chair when ELP appeared on Top Of The Pops ... next to Sarah Brightman and Hot Gossip in the running order as well. Totally surreal. Carl seems to be enjoying himself , Emerson less so
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Posted By: JD
Date Posted: November 26 2021 at 06:38
I hate seeing ELP lip sync. It just seems wrong.  ------------- Thank you for supporting independently produced music |
Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: February 05 2022 at 14:45
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One more metro-joke ? BSS indeed |
Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: July 10 2022 at 05:48
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BSS ------------- Friedrich Nietzsche: "Without music, life would be a mistake." Music Is Live Two people are better off than one, for they can help each other succeed. Keep Calm And Listen To The Music… < |
Posted By: Cactus Choir
Date Posted: July 12 2022 at 05:44
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I could have cast a comedy vote for LB - which isn't quite as bad musically as some make out - but voted for BSS. When ELP appeared on Top of the Pops promoting All I Want is You me and my brother rolled up the legs of our trousers and showed our knees to the screen as a sign of our dissatisfaction with the band's new musical direction. ------------- "And now...on the drums...Mick Underwooooooooood!!!" "He's up the pub" |