Your favourite 12 East European Prog albums?
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Topic: Your favourite 12 East European Prog albums?
Posted By: David_D
Subject: Your favourite 12 East European Prog albums?
Date Posted: November 21 2021 at 00:43
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After looking at Poland, I think it would be very appropriate with the rest of the Eastern Europe - if that has had your interest, as well. I'd like to include Greece here because otherwise, I doubt it would be listed. I'm sure, this will be quite exiting, too, and beginning with my list, still one album per band and unranked: Fermáta (Slovakia) - Pieseň z Hôľ (1977) Collegium Musicum (Slovakia) - Divergences (1983) Solaris (Hungary) - Marsbeli Kronikak (1984) Kornelyans (Serbia) - Not an Ordinary Life (1974) Phoenix (Romania) - Cantofabule (1975) Aphrodite’s Child (Greece) - 666 (1972) P.L.J. Band (Greece) - Armageddon (1982) Ciccada (Geece) - A Child In The Mirror (2010) Naxatras (Greece) - Naxatras (2015) ”Arsenal” Ensemble (Russia) - Svoimi Rukami / Created with their own Hands (1983) The “Gunesh” Ensemble (former USSR) - Looking At The Earth (1984) Vespero (Russia) - By the Waters of Tomorrow (2010) ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: November 21 2021 at 02:24
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Mmmmhhh!!!... (Poland included)
11 Aphrodite's Child 666 Apocalypse of John Gre 1972 11 Fermata Fermata Svk 1975 11 Fermata Huascaran Svk 1977 11 Flamengo Kure V Hodinkach Cze 1972 11 Gleb Kolyadin Gleb Kolyadin Rus 2018 11 Korai Öröm Korai Öröm Hun 1995 11 Methexis Topos Gre 2018 11 Modry Efekt Modry Efekt & Radim Hladik Cze 1975 11 Modry Efekt Svitanie Cze 1977 11 Igra Staklenih Perli - Igra Staklenih Perli Yug 1979 11 More Experience From Acid Dreams Pol 1997 11 Plastic People of the Universe Kolejnice Duni (Rails Rumble) (1977-1982) Cze 11 Jolly Joker & The Plastic Beatles of the Universe Heavy, Funky, Boxing n' Roll CzR 199311 Szabo, Gabor Macho Hun 1975
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Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: November 21 2021 at 02:43
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Which countries are you including in your definition of Eastern Europe? ------------- https://tinyurl.com/nickhnz-tpa" rel="nofollow - Reviewer for The Progressive Aspect |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: November 21 2021 at 02:50
YMMV, IMHO I can't speak for the thread opener, but to me, it seems anything east of the old Iron Curtain and Yugoslavia and Greece (& Cyprus) sound "Eastern European" - though I'm not sure I would include the three Baltic countries. .
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nick_h_nz wrote:Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: November 21 2021 at 03:10
That was what I was wondering. Where the line was drawn. So Baltics out, but Belarus (for example), in? Right, I shall have to put some thought into it, as I think I have rather a lot of Eastern European music on my iPod….. ------------- https://tinyurl.com/nickhnz-tpa" rel="nofollow - Reviewer for The Progressive Aspect |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 21 2021 at 03:13
Looking forward to seeing your list
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 21 2021 at 03:14
agree, the three Baltic countries I will call "Northern Europe", today
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Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: November 21 2021 at 06:09
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I checked with Wiki to see what they said, and it is fairly obvious there is no real consensus about what is or is not considered Eastern Europe, but leaving the Baltic States out, this is the list from the music on my iPod of the countries that can be considered Eastern Europe: 5R6 (Ukraine) 7Ocean (Belarus) Aesthesys (Russia) Ajna (Hungary) Ars de Er (Belarus) Asymmetry (Belarus) Azathoth Circle (Ukraine) BlackPaperPlanes (Belarus) Blank Manuskript (Austria) Ciolkowska (Russia) Compassionizer (Russia) Daniel Eliseev Project (Bulgaria) Detieti (Russia) Diary of My Misanthropy (Czech) Different Light (Czech) Dikajee (Russia) Disen Gage (Russia) Dordeduh (Romania) Doringo (Croatia) Dreadnought in the Pond (Ukraine) Dusan Jetovic (Serbia) Echoes and Signals (Russia) Eternal Wanderers (Russia) Ethereal Riffian (Ukraine) Everwood (Hungary) Evolvo (Hungary) Existentia (Russia) Exit Oz (Romania) Face the Day (Czech) Fair Wind Pleases (Russia) Fox Territory (Czech) Fren (Ukraine/Poland) Ghost Toast (Hungary) Giorgi Mikadze (Georgia) Gleb Kolyadin (Russia) Gnoomes (Russia) Grey Mouse (Russia) Hail Spirit Noir (Greece) iamthemorning (Russia) Ichthyander Dad’s Only Dolphin (Ukraine) InFront (Russia) Japanski Premijeri (Croatia) Jargon (Greece) Jū (Hungary) Juice Oh Yeah (Russia) Kamille Sharapodinov (Russia) Kazachstán (Czech) Kepzelt Varos (Hungary) Kooba Tercu (Greece) Korzo (Ukraine) Krobak (Ukraine) La Horsa Bianca (Ukraine) Lemurian Folk Songs (Hungary) Life on Venus (Russia) Mariana Semkina (Russia) Massen (Belarus) Mindspeak (Austria) Mission Jupiter (Belarus) Modern Day Babylon (Czech) Morrum (Bulgaria) Mother of Millions (Greece) Mother Turtle (Greece) Need (Greece) Negura Bunget (Romania) Nice Wings, Icarus! (Ukraine) Oaksenham (Armenia) Obiymy Doschu (Ukraine) Pandora Snail (Russia) Poem (Greece) Porto Morto (Croatia) Postcards from Arkham (Czech) Rational Diet (Belarus) River Flows Reverse (Hungary) Roz Vitalis (Russia) Rozmainsky Mikhaylov Project (Russia) Sandbender (Hungary) Satorinaut (Hungary) Sauropoda (Hungary) Sealand Airlines (Ukraine) Second Relation (Austria) Serdce (Ukraine) Shadow Universe (Slovenia) Shiva the Destructor (Ukraine) Slot (Russia) Slow Ride Home (Ukraine) smallman (Bulgaria) solid ground (Montenegro) Somali Yacht Club (Ukraine) Soom (Ukraine) Special Providence (Hungary) Split Lines (Serbia) Tania Giannouli (Greece) The Arkestra (Belarus) The Grand Astoria (Russia) The Legendary Flower Punk (Russia) The Thirteenth Sun (Romania) The Worm Ouroboros (Belarus) Them Moose Rush (Croatia) Thy Catafalque (Hungary) Tigran Hamasyan (Armenia) Time Collapse (Greece) Trappist System Trio (Russia) Triangle Singular (Russia) Vasil Hadzimanov (Serbia) Verbal Delirium (Greece) Vespero (Russia) Victor Go (Ukraine) Villagers of Ioannina City (Greece) Votchi (Czech) Way Station (Ukraine) Whalelephant (Russia) White Walls (Romania) White Ward (Ukraine) Yojo (Russia) Now I just need to work out my favourites from that list! 🤔😄🤪 ------------- https://tinyurl.com/nickhnz-tpa" rel="nofollow - Reviewer for The Progressive Aspect |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 21 2021 at 06:47
Yes, please very much, Nick, otherwise I don't really understand the point of your list. Maybe you're just kidding with this "work out", but if not and it showed to be possible, I'd appreciate see you shortening your post. - But okay, anyway, you showed the richness of the Eastern Europe musical world, and maybe how overwhelming the present (global) communication possibilities can be. ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 21 2021 at 07:18
@Nick - SHOW OFF!!!!!!!!!!!  I'll grab my coat...
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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: November 21 2021 at 07:24
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Apparently 2010 was a good year and I like Russian bands Vezhlivy Otkaz (Russia) - Gusi-Lebedi (2010) Pikapika Teart (Russia) - Moonberry (2010) Uz Jsme Doma (Czech) - Caves (2010) Rational Diet (Belarus) - On Phenomena & Existences (2010) The Archestra (Belarus) - Arches (2013) Auktyon (Russia) - Eto Mama (2002) Disen Gage (Russia) - The Reverse May Be True (2008) Vangelis (Greece) - Albedo 0.39 (1976) Five Storey Ensemble (Belarus) - Not That City (2013) Gargantua (Poland) - Kotegarda (2007) Vespero (Russia) - By The Waters Of Tomorrow (2010) Zimpel / Ziolek (Poland) - s/t (2017) ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: November 21 2021 at 07:24
I guess the point of my post, if there were one at all, would have been to illustrate the difficulty I would have to list my favourite 12 East European albums. This list is just from my iPod, and I can probably find more if I look on my external hard drive, or within my CDs. I understand when people ask for favourite releases from one country, but as soon as you get into greater regions, I find it kind of crazy! I mean, I find it difficult enough to find my 12 favourite albums from just one country! Also, consider that, because of the way you worded the question, I didn’t include the 42 artists from Poland that are on my iPod. But ultimately that was not the point of my post, even if that’s a point that could be made from my list. I wasn’t kidding about working out what my 12 favourites are from my list. Why would I have been? Ultimately, I will find it easier to work out my favourite 12, if I have a list to work from. I think, also, that my list is going to be subject to recency bias, and deliberately so - simoly because it is easier to create a list of 12, if I go by what I’m most enjoying at the moment, rather than attempt to work out an all-time favourite. I think there are 20 Ukrainian artists and 30 Russian on my iPod, so I could work out a top 12 from Ukraine, and another top 12 from Russia. I’ve already mentioned the 42 Polish artists, and I’ve still not worked out my favourite albums from them! It’s no criticism on my part, and I meant no point by my list except to assist me, but if you see my list as pointless, I won’t argue that, except to say that what is the point in anything? It’s subjective, of course. I see no point in attempting to work out my 12 favourite East European albums, but I’m still doing it….. 🤷🏻♂️ The list is getting shorter. 😜 5R6 (Ukraine) Aesthesys (Russia) Ajna (Hungary) Asymmetry (Belarus) Ciolkowska (Russia) Compassionizer (Russia) Daniel Eliseev Project (Bulgaria) Detieti (Russia) Different Light (Czech) Doringo (Croatia) Dreadnought in the Pond (Ukraine) Dusan Jetovic (Serbia) Echoes and Signals (Russia) Eternal Wanderers (Russia) Ethereal Riffian (Ukraine) Existentia (Russia) Fair Wind Pleases (Russia) Fren (Ukraine/Poland) Ghost Toast (Hungary) Giorgi Mikadze (Georgia) Grey Mouse (Russia) iamthemorning (Russia) Jargon (Greece) Jū (Hungary) Juice Oh Yeah (Russia) Kamille Sharapodinov (Russia) Kazachstán (Czech) Kepzelt Varos (Hungary) Kooba Tercu (Greece) La Horsa Bianca (Ukraine) Lemurian Folk Songs (Hungary) Mariana Semkina (Russia) Massen (Belarus) Mission Jupiter (Belarus) Morrum (Bulgaria) River Flows Reverse (Hungary) Roz Vitalis (Russia) Rozmainsky Mikhaylov Project (Russia) Sandbender (Hungary) Sauropoda (Hungary) Second Relation (Austria) Shiva the Destructor (Ukraine) Soom (Ukraine) Split Lines (Serbia) Tania Giannouli (Greece) The Grand Astoria (Russia) The Legendary Flower Punk (Russia) The Thirteenth Sun (Romania) Time Collapse (Greece) Triangle Singular (Russia) Vasil Hadzimanov (Serbia) Victor Go (Ukraine) White Walls (Romania) White Ward (Ukraine) ------------- https://tinyurl.com/nickhnz-tpa" rel="nofollow - Reviewer for The Progressive Aspect |
Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: November 21 2021 at 07:28
I own albums by five of those (all Russian or Belarusian), and Five Storey Ensemble is one of those - and also one I missed off my list, as I guess they are either not on my iPod, or my eye missed them as I was scrolling. Given I generally like most of what you do, I shall have to check out the others. I don’t think I’ve ever listened to a Vangelis album before, and I think I can name only two tracks of his that I have heard. ------------- https://tinyurl.com/nickhnz-tpa" rel="nofollow - Reviewer for The Progressive Aspect |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: November 21 2021 at 07:41
The top two are masterpieces for me and sit amongst my top 10 all time. ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: November 21 2021 at 08:08
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 21 2021 at 08:43
I can surely say, 2010 was a good year in general for my musical taste - 5 albums, and I'm not kidding.
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 21 2021 at 09:07
The way I see it, is to tell others about some of one's personal favourites so, they might get inspired to give them a listen, or at least so they get acquainted with one's taste. Something else quite important as I see it, is to put focus on some countries which otherwise may not get so much attention. Edit: In my case, "the choosing of the favourites" was pretty easy here because I just listed those 12 albums, I've found being fond of over the (many) years.
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Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: November 21 2021 at 10:10
Yes, and that is why I am playing along - because I enjoy looking at others’ lists, and learning of new things. I also completely agree with putting focus on countries that otherwise may not get so much attention. But, I guess, I’m not positive this is the best way to do it? Poland is part of Eastern Europe, but had its own post. I feel like other Eastern European countries could also have had their own posts, too. By asking for favourite albums from the whole of Eastern Europe, rather than individual countries within that area (as was the case for Poland), then several countries will still be under-represented in the lists, simply because of “big guns” like Russia. There are several Eastern European countries for which I know no music, and I’d love to be directed to music from those countries. By the way, my list is till getting shorter….. 😜 Ciolkowska (Russia) Compassionizer (Russia) Detieti (Russia) Different Light (Czech) Doringo (Croatia) Dreadnought in the Pond (Ukraine) Dusan Jetovic (Serbia) Existentia (Russia) Fair Wind Pleases (Russia) Ghost Toast (Hungary) Giorgi Mikadze (Georgia) Grey Mouse (Russia) Jargon (Greece) Juice Oh Yeah (Russia) Kooba Tercu (Greece) La Horsa Bianca (Ukraine) Mariana Semkina (Russia) Mission Jupiter (Belarus) Morrum (Bulgaria) River Flows Reverse (Hungary) Roz Vitalis (Russia) Rozmainsky Mikhaylov Project (Russia) Sauropoda (Hungary) Shiva the Destructor (Ukraine) Soom (Ukraine) Tania Giannouli (Greece) The Grand Astoria (Russia) The Thirteenth Sun (Romania) Time Collapse (Greece) Triangle Singular (Russia) Vasil Hadzimanov (Serbia) Victor Go (Ukraine) White Walls (Romania) White Ward (Ukraine) ------------- https://tinyurl.com/nickhnz-tpa" rel="nofollow - Reviewer for The Progressive Aspect |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 21 2021 at 11:50
Yes, I can see the problem and inequality, but I did it with my own collection and preferences as the starting point, and others can try to do threads with the other countries individually. I can tell about myself that I have other plans, and no more albums I'm fond of from Eastern Europe. ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: November 21 2021 at 12:08
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Just a suggestion! Eastern Europe is a HUUUUUGE landmass and not well defined I would break down these "prog zones" as such Russia Ukraine, Belarus & Moldova Baltic States (Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania) Central nations (Poland, Hungary, Czech Rep, Slovakia) Balkan nations (Romania, Bulgaria, Albania & Former Yugoslavia [Serbia, Croatia, Slovenia, Kosovo, Montenegro, North Macedonia]) Greece if counted should really be in its own category possibly with Turkey which has a sliver of territory that is considered Europe (even though the Eurasian landmass is divided solely for cultural purposes.) As for choosing albums, way too many for me to count. Some would also included Caucus nations such as Georgia, Armenia and Azerbaijan as Eastern Europe but seems a stretch in my view considering the Caucus range is technically what divides Europe from Asia. Also Eastern Germany which used to be considered Eastern Europe could be thrown into the Central nations category.
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 21 2021 at 12:32
Not to comment the details in your suggestion, but if you have several threads in your mind, I don't think it's realistic. Otherwise, see my comment to Nick, just above your post.
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Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: November 21 2021 at 12:41
I included the Caucasus, as it is the border region - though I know only one Georgian artist, and only two Armenian artists, and seems to be far more accepted as part of Eastern Europe than the Baltic states, which are almost always not included. I also included Austria in the Central nations, as the this was roughly the Austro-Hungarian empire. I definitely agree that Eastern Europe is far too great an area otherwise. Using your breakdowns would make my lists more similar in size, too. I had 30 Russian artists on my iPod, and 20 Ukrainian. If I add the Belarusian to the Ukrainian I would have 30 for there, too (as I have nothing from Moldova). Apart from Slovakia, the Central region would be larger from Poland alone (a good 40+ artists on my iPod), with Hungary and Czech both fighting for second, Austria firmly in fourth place, and Slovakia trailing far behind with nothing in my collection that I can think of. The Balkans are by far the least represented with not too much in my collection from Romania, Bulgaria, Serbia, Croatia, Slovenia and Montenegro, and nothing at all from Albania, Kosovo and North Macedonia. ------------- https://tinyurl.com/nickhnz-tpa" rel="nofollow - Reviewer for The Progressive Aspect |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 21 2021 at 13:05
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siLLy puPPy and nick_h_nz , if you want to discuss this suggestion, I think you should start a new thread, guys, because it's not what I've had in mind.
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 21 2021 at 14:17
Well, Nick, I don't know what to think about it, now.  ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: Mirakaze
Date Posted: November 21 2021 at 14:36
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Oof, this is clearly not a part of the world with whose prog scene I'm very acquainted... I already had to cheat with two artists that aren't even in PA (yet) as well as some artists from Austria and Finland which can barely be considered "Eastern Europe", and still I can't even finish a top 12 with albums that I'm familiar enough with for me to put on a list like this. Here goes, anyway... 1. Vangelis - Blade Runner (Greece) 2. Stevan Kovacs Tickmayer - Cold Peace Counterpoints (Serbia) 3. Hermann Szobel - Szobel (Austria) 4. Missigno - Binary Digit Temple (Greece) 5. Tigran Hamasyan - The Call Within (Armenia) 6. Alex Machacek - 24 Tales (Austria) 7. Deep Turtle - There's A Vomitsprinkler In My Liverriver (Finland) 8. Den Za Den - Den Za Den (North Macedonia) 9. Czesław Niemen - Niemen Aerolit (Poland) 10. Aphrodite's Child - 666 (Greece) 11. After Crying - Overground Music (Hungary)
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 21 2021 at 15:15
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It looks fine, Mirakaze, and the number 12 is just a suggestion. I'm happy to see you include Niemen Aerolit, as I find it being a very fine album, and you're the first one to do it. ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: November 21 2021 at 15:35
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1. Solaris - Marsbéli krónikák [Hungary] 2. M Efekt - Svitane [Czech Republic] 3. Vangelis - Albedo 0.39 [Greece] 4. Blue Effect & Jazz Q Praha - Coniunctio [Czech Republic] 5. Solaris - Nostradamus 2.0 Returnity: Unborn Visions [Hungary] 6. Tigran Hamasyan - The Call Within [Armenia] 7. Antony Kalugin - Marshmallow Moondust [Ukraine] 8. Už Jsme Doma - Uprostřed Slov [Czech Republic] 9. East - Hűség [Hungary] 10. Collegium Musicum - Continuo [Slovakia] 11. La Tulipe noire - Shattered Image [Greece] 12. Ascorbic Acid - Seven Words [Russia] Honorable mentions: After Crying - 6 [Hungary] Apple Pie - Crossroad [Russia] Them Moose Rush - Dancing Maze [Croatia] Thy Catafalque - Vadak [Hungary] Antethic - Ghost Shirt Society [Russia] Sfinx - Zalmoxe [Romania] ------------- ---------- i'm shopping for a new oil-cured sinus bag that's a happy bag of lettuce this car smells like cartilage nothing beats a good video about fractions |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 21 2021 at 15:43
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I surely like to see Solaris - Marsbéli krónikák, progadvaark, and even as #1 indeed doesn't make it worse. ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: November 21 2021 at 16:28
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Happy that the East of Europe is asked as such a big piece of earth, as I really know too little. I reach 12 entries from different artists with a little help of communist East Germany and solo projects by both members of iamthemorning. iamthemorning - Lighthouse After Crying - http://192.168.1.103:9000/clixmlbrowser/clicmd=browselibrary+items&mode=albums&linktitle=Artist%20%28After%20Crying%29&artist_id=11779&player=00:52:06:4c:dd:9d/index.html?mode=albums&artist_id=11779&index=1&player=00%3A52%3A06%3A4c%3Add%3A9d&sess=" rel="nofollow - Megalazottak Es Megszomoritottak
Iva Bittova's Dunaj - Dunaj Stern Meissen - Reise zum Mittelpunkt des Menschen The Gourishankar - 2nd Hands Actual Music Quartet RSM - s/t Mariana Semkina - Sleepwalking Vezhlivy Otkaz - War Songs Gleb Kolyadin - s/t Riverside - Second Life SyndromeLift - Meeresfahrt Vangelis - The Dragon I just about kicked out Omega's Time Robber - quite surprised that they are not listed yet. Before I joined PA I'd have thought Omega are by far the most popular prog act from Eastern Europe except maybe Greece.
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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: November 21 2021 at 17:52
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FAT - #awesome Them Moose Rush - Don't Pick Your Noise Special Providence - Soul Alert The Gourishankar - 2nd Hands Sympozion - Kundabuffer Alex Machacek - 24 Tales Riverside - Anno Domini High Definition Disperse - Foreword Wastefall - Self Exile Aphrodite's Child - 666 |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 22 2021 at 01:37
Thank you very much for your contributions, Lewian and Grumpy.
I'd say, Omega used to be a well known band but, I guess, not so much anymore comparing to so many others.
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Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: November 22 2021 at 17:28
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My Favorite Eastern European Prog Albums: It’s just too tough to choose just 12, but the list would start here (the albums that have received the most play and return): After Crying Overground Music After Crying Megalázottak és Megszomorítottak After Crying Föld És Ég After Crying De Profundis Ciccada A Child in the Mirror Ciccada The Finest of Miracles Ciccada Harvest Disen Gage Snapshots Eyot Innate Fermata Huascaran Five-Storey Ensemble Not That City Five-Storey Ensemble Night en face Gleb Kolyadin Gleb Kolyadin Gleb Kolyadin water movements Hail Spirit Noir Eden in Reverse iamthmorning ~ iamthemorning The Bell iamthemorning Lighthouse Jargon The Fading Thought Marjana Semkina Sleepwalking Methexis Topos Methexis The Fall of Bliss Methexis Suiciety Mother Turtle II Negura Bunget Om Solaris Marsbéli krónikák Vespero The Four Zaos Vespero By the Waters of Tomorrow Whalephant KaMMa The Worm Ouroboros Of Things That Never Were (those in bold print are the most likely candidates for my “favorite 12”) ------------- Drew Fisher https://progisaliveandwell.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: November 22 2021 at 17:37
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Some favourite in no particular order: KADA-Kada SIDDHARTHA-Siddhartha PLJ BAND-Armageddon ENERGIT-Energit WILL-O-THE-WISP-Will-0-The Wisp IGRA STAKLENIH PERLI-Igra Staklenih Perli PHLOX-Rebime And Voltmine PANTOMMIND-Shade Of Fate APHRODITES CHILD-666 GEVENDE-Sen Balik Degilsin ki BLUE EFFECT & JAZZ Q-Coniunctio SBB-Live in Karlstad 1975
Not to mention RIVERSIDE and INDUKTI that I'd normally include on a list like this. Michal Urbaniac is another one. ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 22 2021 at 23:52
We've just had a separate Polish thread if you haven't seen it. ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: November 23 2021 at 18:01
Thanks I'll check it out. ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: King Crimson776
Date Posted: November 23 2021 at 20:15
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Not including Poland, since you did a Poland thread. Russia perhaps deserves its own thread, but I'll include them since others are. Also, I don't know if they necessarily have a big enough prog scene. Oh, I forgot Greece. Well, the Aphrodite's Child and Ciccada albums you listed would make it into this list.
After Crying - Overground Music (Hungary) Solaris - Marsbéli krónikák (Hungary) Horizont - Летний город (Russia) Lost World - Awakening of the Elements (Russia) Karfagen - Solitary Sandpiper Journey (Ukraine) Fugato Orchestra - Neander Variations (Hungary) Quorum - Another World (Russia) Fermáta - Huascaran (Slovakia) Talitha Qumi - Despre cuvinte (Romania) Modrý Efekt & Radim Hladík - Modrý Efekt & Radim Hladík (Czech) The Gourishankar - 2nd Hands (Russia) The Worm Ouroboros - Of Things That Never Were (Belarus) |
Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: November 24 2021 at 02:24
At the risk of upsetting David (again), I would say that Russia is very much deserving of its own thread. I suspect their prog scene is just as big as Poland’s, but more unknown. I have albums by 42 different Polish artists on my iPod, and 30 different Russian artists on my iPod. That could imply that the Polish prog scene is bigger, but I do t think that would be an accurate inference. Investigating the Russian prog scene drew me into the Ukrainian and Belarusian prog scenes, which are likely even lesser known than the Russian prog scene. But does that mean they are not deserving of their own threads, too? Personally, I think that, too, would be a mistake. East Europe is such a vast and ill-defined area (whose borders are as grey an area as the definitions of prog), with many quite different cultures and traditions. The music, instruments, instrumentation and influences differ greatly by region, and to clump them together is quite unfair on them all. Even more so, to my mind, if Poland has its own thread but no other does. I haven’t really contributed to this thread, since David took umbrage with comments made by Silly Puppy and I, and I’m not sure why I’m writing this - except perhaps I have not yet had my morning coffee, and my brain is still in somewhat of a morning fog. But I would like to see people list their favourites (5, 10, 12, whatever) from each country. I have been thinking of doing so for some time now, because I find it incredibly difficult to narrow my large list of East European artists down to 12, let alone albums by those artists. It may not be what David intended, but I think it might be helpful for anyone who is thinking of investigating the music of one country or another, rather than just a large region that often has little in common between many of the countries within, apart from being within an arbitrary region mostly defined by people outside that region. ------------- https://tinyurl.com/nickhnz-tpa" rel="nofollow - Reviewer for The Progressive Aspect |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 24 2021 at 02:47
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Nick, siLLy puPPy and King C., I think to begin with you're quite right but is that talking realistic? Because there are these two questions: 1. Will there be enough interest for (all) those threads you have in mind? 2. Who will do these threads? And as long we don't know answers on these two questions, I think it's just best to follow my thread doing, otherwise they'll be spoiled and nothing better will happen. So, Nick, I must say I'm not quite sure of the intention with your long posts. I think, why don't you just start a new thread (with siLLy puPPy) and discuss these things? ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: November 24 2021 at 02:57
There is no need for a new thread, that I can see. This one seems to be trundling along quite nicely. ------------- https://tinyurl.com/nickhnz-tpa" rel="nofollow - Reviewer for The Progressive Aspect |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 24 2021 at 03:10
Okay, and I think you should pay some good attention to some of the comments which are made in this thread because as far as I can see there's no basis for what you would like to see:
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Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: November 24 2021 at 04:21
Well, I guess it depends what you see, or perhaps what you’re looking for. 🤷🏻♂️ I have definitely been reading all the comments, because I love to listen to new music from different countries. Already, I have several new artists and/or albums added to my “to listen to” list. As for individual country lists, I see them as a means to an end. You see, believe it or not, I a, trying to work out my favourite 12 albums from East Europe. It feels like a near impossible task for me, due to the sheer number of albums I have from that region. Thus, breaking it down into individual countries serves a dual purpose: 1) It might allow people following this thread who have not investigated music yet from that country some interest in doing so; but, more pertinent to your interests, 2) It will make my job of coming up with a top 12 for East Europe easier, as inevitably the albums near the top of each country’s lists will likely be the ones that make my final 12. So, with that in mind, here are my first three lists. Each has a different number, based upon how many artists I know and enjoy from that country. I wanted to list no more than a third of the number of artists from any one country. I’ve also stuck to only one album per artist, in order to provide greater variety, regardless of how much I might love more than one album per artist. Each list also has a great deal of deliberate recency bias. This is because these are my favourites at this time, and so more recent releases are topping the lists (regardless of how much I might like older albums from these countries). Belarus 1. Mission Jupiter - Talk To Me 2. Massen - ContrAesthetic 3. Asymmetry - Anima 4. ZVM - ZVM Russia 1. Compassionizer - An Ambassador in Bonds 2. Detieti - In General Terms 3. Grey Mouse - A Moment of Weakness 4. Fair Wind Pleases - The Wind of the Season 5. Ciolkowska - Psychedelia 6. Mariana Semkina - Sleepwalking 7. The Grand Astoria - From the Great Beyond 8. iamthemorning - The Bell 9. Echoes and Signals - Mercurial 10. Existentia - The Planet in the Universe Ukraine 1. Dreadnought in the Pond - 0=1 2. Shiva the Destructor - Find the Others 3. La Horsa Bianca - Diluvian Beat 4. Victor Go - Tales from McIntyre Lake 5. White Ward - Love Exchange Failure 6. Soom - Djebars 7. Straytones - Magic Green River Swimmin’ & Stunning Tanzanka Experience ------------- https://tinyurl.com/nickhnz-tpa" rel="nofollow - Reviewer for The Progressive Aspect |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 24 2021 at 05:47
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This is fine, Nick, and it's surely okay with more than 12. ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: November 24 2021 at 07:37
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Three more countries. As per the last three, these lists are one album per artist for greater variety. As per the last three, there is deliberate recency bias. As per the last three, the number of albums in each list varies as a reflection of how much I have in my collection from the country. Unlike the last three, where the number listed was no more than a third of the total artists from any country, Bulgaria and Romania here represent more than a third, simply because I figured a list should have a minimum of three albums. (Hungary, though, sticks to the rule of a third.) Bulgaria 1. Daniel Eliseev Project - Lost Humanity 2. Morrum - Death of Amazement 3. smallman - Labyrinth of Present 1. Sauropoda - Pangea 2. River Flows Reverse - When River Flows Reverse 3. Ghost Toast - Shape Without Form 4. Ajna - Rengeteg Romania 1. Exit Oz - Împamântenit 2. White Walls - Grandeur 3. The Thirteenth Sun - Stardust ------------- https://tinyurl.com/nickhnz-tpa" rel="nofollow - Reviewer for The Progressive Aspect |
Posted By: enigmatic
Date Posted: November 30 2021 at 17:00
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My favorite Eastern European Prog albums, excluding Poland (separate thread) and Greece (not eastern Europe): Modry Effect - Modrý Efekt & Radim Hladík Modry Effect - Svitanie Collegium Musicum - Konvergencie Fermáta - Huascaran Flamengo - Kure v hodinkách Igra Staklenih Perli - Igra staklenih perli In Spe - In Spe S Vremena na Vreme - S vremena na vreme Syrius - Az ördög álarcosbálja Tako - U vreci za spavanje Ursiny, Dežo - Provisorium Honorable mentions: Solaris - Marsbéli krónikák and at least 3-4 albums by After Crying |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: December 01 2021 at 04:00
You seem to use "the old" definition of "Eastern Europe" which I consider being a very political one, while I'm trying with a new one, geographical.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: December 01 2021 at 04:14
I don't know what you mean by 'old definition of eastern Europe", but even geographically, looking at the map of Europe, Greece is south-eastern. Even if someone says south of Europe, I wouldn't disagree.
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: December 01 2021 at 04:29
Right, you have very much a point there. ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: December 01 2021 at 05:12
You may say you can't list 10 top albums of all time either, but if you can, this should for sure be able for a limited geographical range, whatever it is? And whether you can, in my view, doesn't really depend on the overall number of albums that you have, but rather on whether you are happy (and ruthless) enough to be selective. Obviously nobody has to, but the willingness to play the game in my view has nothing to do with size of the set from which you select. (Or rather, I couldn't pay the game for single countries such as Romania of which I'd be happy to know three - heck, I'm even too weak to play Poland and I'm for sure not proud if it! So having Eastern Europe as a single category and even Latin America is fine for me even though I am happy to acknowledge that it's my personal lack of knowledge rather than fault of these countries.)
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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: December 01 2021 at 06:04
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I'm the other way, I'm a Gnosis rater so my full collection of over 2,000 albums has been rated and it just a case of keeping it up to date and pulling the data. I had a lot of fun going through relistening to the full collection and rating everything. ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: December 01 2021 at 06:17
The process of finding favourites is very easy for me, as well, as I've done that over the really many years, I've been interested in music, and my collection today only consists of my "favourites" (in fact, it's just albums I'm fond of), about 450. I've made a list of all of them, beginning many years ago, which I now just update. So, listing my favourites here for different countries has only required a bit of work, as well.
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: December 02 2021 at 01:16
I still think, though, it's good to include Greece here because I doubt, it would be mentioned otherwise.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: December 02 2021 at 01:21
I don't contest you including Greece here, just don't be surprised others will wonder why.
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Posted By: Mirakaze
Date Posted: December 02 2021 at 01:25
I assume they mean the countries of the former Eastern Bloc, of which Greece was not a part. Personally, while I'm all for inclusivity, I am a bit confused by the mention of Firyuza, a band from Turkmenistan... ------------- https://mirasnelder.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow - Freelance composer, accepting commissions | https://mirasnelder.bandcamp.com/album/altered-acuity" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp page |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: December 02 2021 at 01:26
Good point, I'll give an explanation in my OP. ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: December 02 2021 at 01:40
Wasn't the "Eastern Block" a name the westerners gave that region during the Cold War? Political indeed. But since Greece is in south-east Europe, it can be included here.
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Posted By: enigmatic
Date Posted: December 02 2021 at 10:11
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Firyuza removed, sorry about that. I had it in my notes as USSR, didn't check that they were on Asian side of USSR. Greece - I still think it deserves it's own Top 10 thread.
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: December 03 2021 at 02:02
I can doubt that it would have much interest at this point of time. ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: December 03 2021 at 03:20
if Greece deserves its own thread (and it does), you can start one and see what happens. Easy solution.
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Posted By: enigmatic
Date Posted: December 03 2021 at 09:26
Well, I am afraid I would be the only one who posts his favorite Greek prog albums. I will list them here since I need few more posts to be able to participants in PA Polls. My Top 10 of Greek Prog Albums (btw Greece = southern Europe. I grew up in eastern Europe, I know it by heart.  )Axis - Axis (1971) Axis - Axis (1973) Akritas - Akritas (1973) Aphrodite's Child - 666 (1972) Ciccada - A Child in the Mirror (2010) P.L.J. Band - Armageddon (1982) Socrates - Phos (1976) Vangelis - Earth (1973) Vangelis - Heaven and Hell (1975) Vangelis - Albedo 0.39 (1976) |