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Topic: drum kit size
Posted By: hukt on fonikzz
Subject: drum kit size
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 14:55
for those of us who are drummers, what size of kit do you play....does size really matter, or does it hinder? personally i play a 4 piece small kit with 2 crashes and a ride, and i play heavily progressive music with my bands.....

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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 15:41

My kit is an 11 piece Sonor with 10 Zildjian cymbals,and three Simmons SDS hexagonal electronic drums.

I am a fan of the "everything but the kitchen sink" approach to drum kits,ala Peart,Portnoy,Carey.



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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 15:58

Here is a quite amazing performance on a very basic kit:

Look very carefully and you might actually be able to see his hands move!!!!

http://www.drummerworld.com/Videos/buddyrichsticktrick.html - http://www.drummerworld.com/Videos/buddyrichsticktrick.html

Clap



Posted By: Ed_The_Dead
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 18:11
^That was either the video cuality, or that was just god damn imposible!!! No one can play THAT fast...

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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 18:27
Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

Here is a quite amazing performance on a very basic kit:

Look very carefully and you might actually be able to see his hands move!!!!

http://www.drummerworld.com/Videos/buddyrichsticktrick.html - http://www.drummerworld.com/Videos/buddyrichsticktrick.html

Clap

Damn impressive  x 10

To actually answer the question: I play the basic four piece with a hi-hat and one crash. I want to get a ride but i need money. Though i would prefer a set with a whole bunch of stuff: Two crashes, a ride, bout 3 different sized splashes, a cowbell (or even better three or so different sized ones), a piccalo snare, and roto-toms. Those things are awesome. I would like to try my hand at those electronic things, but that is just complicated for me.



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Posted By: ulver982
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 18:50
I've got an electric set..the pintech tour elite...it's a 6 piece with woven mesh heads.  My last set was a cheapo pearl export.  I love my electric set..it's nice because I can play whenever I want, and recording is a breeze.  I do really want a real set again.  Despite how "real" my electric set feels, nothing will beat a real drum set. 

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Posted By: Wally
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 18:56

Sweet Jesus!

I love that video.  He sounds so modern. 

I play an old maple 4 piece with Ziljians. 



Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 19:13

Another Classic Clip:

http://www.drummerworld.com/Videos/edshaughnessy.html - http://www.drummerworld.com/Videos/edshaughnessy.html

Duelling Banjos was never this scary!



Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 21:14
Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

Here is a quite amazing performance on a very basic kit:

Look very carefully and you might actually be able to see his hands move!!!!

http://www.drummerworld.com/Videos/buddyrichsticktrick.html - http://www.drummerworld.com/Videos/buddyrichsticktrick.html

Clap

My father was a drummer and passed his love of the instrument on to me,and he worshiped Buddy Rich and Gene Krupa.Two of the greatest drummers ever.



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Posted By: Sam Fire
Date Posted: October 20 2005 at 17:04
I'm actually the bassist/keyboardist/guitarist in my band, but I play the drums sometimes.  I use my little brother's set, which is a 4-piece Percussion Plus set with Evans Genera-coated G2 heads (no front head on the bass, though) with Ziljian ZBT series cymbals (16" crash, 20" ride, 14" hi-hats), a Latin Percussion cowbell, a Latin Percussion tambourine (mounted on a stand), a DW 7000 double pedal, and Vic Firth sticks.  But then, sometimes I use our drummer's set, which is an expanded Ludwig Accent set (8, 10, 12, 13, and 16 inch toms, 22-inch bass, 14 inch snare) with the same heads, Paiste 302 (14" hi-hats, 16" crash, 22" ride) and 502 (14" crash), Ludwig single pedal, and a small army of cowbells.  Sometimes we'll add all of the cybmals to the Ludwig set, that's good fun!

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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: October 20 2005 at 18:20
Snare, two pairs of hanging toms, a side drum, two cymbals and a crash cymbal, hi-hat and bass drum is my equipment. Oh, and a cow-bell. A twelve-piece set. But I could play with less. A real good drummer doesn't need a showy kit. On the contrary, I distrust drummers who have too much in their kit. I especially don't like those who play with two bass drums. What on earth does one need two bass drums for, if not for showing off? Which is ridiculous, by the way; I don't get impressed by long bass drum whirls at all. Anyone can do that with two bass drums. But if you know the technique you can be very effective and even do very small whirls with a single bass drum. Drummers with two bass drums are losers.

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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: October 20 2005 at 18:33

^ that's the second time today that I see a thread topic and who made the last post, and I know EXACTLY what the post is about whithout ever opening the thread.



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Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: October 20 2005 at 19:54

Five-piece (One snare, three tom's and one bass drum), plus one hi-hat and a crash.

I wish i had more cymbals  



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Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: October 21 2005 at 02:44
i think most jazz drummers got really small kits...still they sound great

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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: October 21 2005 at 17:27

Now this guy is an animal....

http://www.drummerworld.com/Videos/buddyrichmuppet22.html">click me

Click him for a demonstration of how to play a small kit...



Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: October 21 2005 at 17:33

Or just watch the master on a large kit:

http://www.drummerworld.com/Videos/Neilpeartfills.html">

 



Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: October 21 2005 at 17:44

Have a look at Mike Portnoy's Siamese Monster Kit, and read about his different drum sets:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Portnoy - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Portnoy



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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: October 23 2005 at 19:52

Yes,but Neil plays all his...

http://www.drummerworld.com/m3u/neilpeartsolo.m3u">

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c9/R30neil.jpg -

Click on the picture to hear the master at work!!!Clap



Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: October 23 2005 at 22:03

The master used a kit that was not too big:

Pierre august 1999

Pierre Moerlen May 2000

Pierre Moerlen with Brand X

Pierre Moerlen with Brand X

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Pic 3, 4 and 5 are from a Brand X concert in Tokyo; you can see John Goodsall on guitar in pic 3 too and Goodsall and Percy Jones in pic 5. Pic 6 is from a Brand X concert in Europe; you can see he is playing a different kit there.



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