Progressive Soul?
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Topic: Progressive Soul?
Posted By: SuperMetro
Subject: Progressive Soul?
Date Posted: November 05 2021 at 22:05
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So, this is does not really belong here, since this is a rock site and not for soul, but I have been thinking for a while about how there is funk/soul music that can be really long at times, and can come in multiple parts. Bands I am talking about are the Isley Brothers and War. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_World_Is_a_Ghetto https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Givin%27_It_Back
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Posted By: yogev
Date Posted: November 06 2021 at 04:31
| I listened to The World is a Ghetto not long ago, and it absolutly more than a regular "Funk" record. The longer tracks like City, Country, City and the title track have longer solos and unusual structure. A bit more similar to fusion. |
Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: November 06 2021 at 07:30
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I’ve always thought that the term ‘progressive’ applies somewhat differently to ‘soul’ music. ‘Progressive soul’ may have a more urban meaning/feel to it, maybe deeper thought-provoking aspect. Yet, still be viewed as ‘progressive’ by the general definition. Albums like Marvin Gaye's "What's Going On", Kool and the Gang "Light of Worlds" or Curtis Mayfield's 'Curtis'. |
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: November 06 2021 at 08:03
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There seems to be a trend to add "progressive" as a term for disparate genres that fall outside of the established industry norm. In no way do these genres equate to "progressiveness" in the same sense that prog rock does Some of my favorite ridiculous terms: Festival progressive house Progressive breaks Progressive country Progressive bluegrass Progressive house Progressive psytrance There are others but don't expect Yes or Gentle Giant equivalents of the music! -------------  https://rateyourmusic.com/~siLLy_puPPy |
Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: November 06 2021 at 10:27
What about progressive prog? ------------- No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man. |
siLLy puPPy wrote:Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 06 2021 at 10:31
is it progressive? is it prog?   |
Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: November 06 2021 at 11:35
Just for understanding purpose are you saying that other forms of music (such as country, house , soul, etc.) cannot be Progressive?
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Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: November 06 2021 at 12:10
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I'm not sure what criteria is being used to make a soul song progressive. I'm reminded of this. Pop and soul are not necessarily the same thing, but this is pretty soulful. ------------- https://www.last.fm/user/Tapfret" rel="nofollow">  https://bandcamp.com/tapfret" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp |
Posted By: SuperMetro
Date Posted: November 06 2021 at 12:35
Take The World Is A Ghetto for instance. It has a one minute long opener, some vocals, a really long saxophone solo, and some guitar solo at the end of it with a repeating chorus. I  that song.
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: November 06 2021 at 19:02
I would suggest there is such a thing as Progressive bluegrass. I would then suggest that you have no idea what you are talking about in that regard. I would then direct you to Béla Fleck and the Flecktones, the Punch Brothers, Billy Strings, The Goat Rodeo Sessions and Greensky Bluegrass. As a matter of fact, I've been listening to a lot more of this stuff than most of the alleged prog rock currently being bandied about that is merely a recapitulation of the prog from the 1970s. You know, when the genre was actually "progressive" and not a cough from a coffin. ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: November 06 2021 at 19:14
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Progressive soul, year 1970: ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: November 06 2021 at 19:17
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Steely Dan? ------------- 
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: November 06 2021 at 20:00
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As far as Progressive Soul, you can include Stevie Wonder in the early to mid-70s, Curtis Mayfield, Sly and the Family Stone, Parliament/Funkadelic, War, Sun Ra, the Isley Brothers, and let's not forget Jimi Hendrix and Band of Gypsys... ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: November 06 2021 at 21:28
Oh i love Bela Fleck & The Flecktones. Totally agree they would qualify as progressive bluegrass. A lot of what i've heard labeled that isn't very progressive to my ears. Will have to check out some of your other suggestions :) ------------- https://rateyourmusic.com/~siLLy_puPPy |
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: November 06 2021 at 21:29
No, i'm not saying they CANNOT, i'm saying that they most often are NOT. At least as far as i've heard. I mean progressive psytrance? LOL ------------- https://rateyourmusic.com/~siLLy_puPPy |
Posted By: yogev
Date Posted: November 07 2021 at 12:08
@The Dark Elf Its nice to see a Bluegrass fan overhere. Thanks for recommending The Goat Rodeo, it is very intelegic music, how I did not know them. Im a big bluegrass lover so here a few more progressive bluegrass reccomendations. You mentioned Billy Strings in your post. This masterpiece is very progy, give it a try. (I removed your youtube links so it won't take a long time to load the page)
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Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: November 07 2021 at 12:58
It's both... a genre defined for those who actually make a distinction between prog and progressive rock, and need a genre that covers both. ------------- No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man. |
Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: March 27 2025 at 02:54
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Lamont Johnson - Music of the Sun (1978) A very nice imho soul song with a progressive rock edge, featuring a virtuoso tier acoustic guitar solo by Randy Jacobs. The playing style remidns me of Sławomir Piwowar's work on Niemen's https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=11893" rel="nofollow - Aerolit and SBB's https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=2324" rel="nofollow - MzBT -------------
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Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: March 27 2025 at 06:53
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Check out this multi-sectional Isaac Hayes cover tune that ends with an up-tempo psychedelic violin solo. Isaac has more tracks like this also. I don't know if anyone has mentioned Rotary Connection or Mandrill, but they are worth checking out too. Mandrill is on this site. |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: March 27 2025 at 07:00