Artists you disliked but now love...
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Topic: Artists you disliked but now love...
Posted By: Tony R
Subject: Artists you disliked but now love...
Date Posted: October 07 2005 at 16:49
Ever made a massive mistake by dismissing a band or artist based on one listen or one album-then came back to them years later only to find you'd deprived yourself of something amazing?
This happened to me with Steve Hackett's solo career.
I'd been a big fan of Genesis from about 1972,but somehow didnt get to hear Hackett's first solo album Voyage Of The Acolyte.
I bought his first post-Genesis LP Please Dont Touch at the time of release and was horrified! I found it totally bland and unlistenable (still do really) and that was the end of Steve for me until Easter this year. I d/l Star Of Sirius and Mechanical Bride from the Bio Section and was completely stunned.The tracks were amazing and I quickly desired the whole catalogue.
Needless to say I aquired his first 4 albums remastered from Camino in Aug and have since added Darktown,To Watch The Storms,Highly Strung and Watcher.Apart from the aforementioned Please Dont Thrutch ( ) I'm completely bowled over.The guy is a genius!
I feel like I have been missing something for 30 years! A day barely goes by without me giving one of his albums a spin.......
.......has this ever happened to you?
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Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: October 07 2005 at 16:50
i used to hate iron maiden and think that even dr.dre was better

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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: October 07 2005 at 16:54
maybe i'll eventually warm up to Pain of Salvation. 
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Posted By: Cygnus X-1
Date Posted: October 07 2005 at 17:01
i first heard Watcher of the skies by genesis and didn't think much to it but then i heard the rest of Timetable later on and fell in love with supper's ready
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Posted By: The Wizard
Date Posted: October 07 2005 at 17:02
Posted By: bluetailfly
Date Posted: October 07 2005 at 17:06
When I was younger, I used to dislike King Crimson (except the first album); actually I hadn't even heard most of the lps, but Robert Fripp used to bother me because of all that "league of crafty guitar" stuff (and the fact that he wouldn't put out another album like the first!)
But later I sort of grew into them, and they're one of my favorite bands now. I listen to them often.
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Posted By: Arnold Layne
Date Posted: October 07 2005 at 17:08
i had downloaded the frank zappa songs of this site and at the time thought it was all crap but i kept it on the computer and every once in a while it would start playing and i didnt stop it, two months later i had collected 4 of his cds
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Posted By: Ed_The_Dead
Date Posted: October 07 2005 at 17:10
Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: October 07 2005 at 17:15
RUSH.. IM NOT IN LOVE WITH THEIR MUSIC... BUT IM IN LOVE WITH HEMISPHERES AND A FAREWELL TO KINGS...
TWO YEARS AGO.. I HATE THAT BAND
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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: October 07 2005 at 17:38
Porcupine Tree for me..... I bought Signify and it sent me to sleep. I couldn't see what people saw in it, but more recently, I have softened to their music, having heard Deadwing and worked my way backwards... Signify will never be a fave of mine, but I understand it more now than I did 6/7 years ago.
Somehow, I can't see the same 'Road to Damascus' conversion happening for Ayreon tho.. 
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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: October 07 2005 at 17:41
Van der Graaf Gnerator...I did not get it, I did not want to get it...now...the complet oposite.
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Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: October 07 2005 at 17:50
Most of the prog stuff...
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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: October 07 2005 at 17:53
Opeth
and all RIO/Avant-prog!
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Posted By: margaret
Date Posted: October 07 2005 at 18:09
Tony R wrote:
Ever made a massive mistake by dismissing a band or artist based on one listen or one album-then came back to them years later only to find you'd deprived yourself of something amazing?
This happened to me with Steve Hackett's solo career.
I'd been a big fan of Genesis from about 1972,but somehow didnt get to hear Hackett's first solo album Voyage Of The Acolyte.
I bought his first post-Genesis LP Please Dont Touch at the time of release and was horrified! I found it totally bland and unlistenable (still do really) and that was the end of Steve for me until Easter this year.I d/l Star Of Sirius and Mechanical Bride from the Bio Section and was completely stunned.The tracks were amazing and I quickly desired the whole catalogue.
Needless to say I aquired his first 4 albums remastered from Camino in Aug and have since added Darktown,To Watch The Storms,Highly Strung and Watcher.Apart from the aforementioned Please Dont Thrutch ( ) I'm completely bowled over.The guy is a genius!
I feel like I have been missing something for 30 years! A day barely goes by without me giving one of his albums a spin.......
.......has this ever happened to you?
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nice thread, Tangerine Dream for me. Not that it (Phaedrea) was bad. It just wasn't what I usually listen to progwise. Kept plugging away, and finally came to like it, reinforced when I got Ricochet. Liking them the more I listen.
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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: October 07 2005 at 18:19
You know,without wishing to sound pretentious (moi?) that's what really differentiates Prog and other rock music.There is so much lurking under the surface and sometimes you need 5 or 6 careful listens before it all makes sense.
Prog is like ogres and onions.........
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Posted By: margaret
Date Posted: October 07 2005 at 18:22
Tony R wrote:
You know,without wishing to sound pretentious (moi?) that's what really differentiates Prog and other rock music.There is so much lurking under the surface and sometimes you need 5 or 6 careful listens before it all makes sense.
Prog is like ogres and onions......... |
couldn't agree with that more, it honestly took multiple multiple listens before I really took to Phaedra (and others like Tales From Topographic Oceans). They were well worth the extra 'effort'.
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Space is dark it is so endless
When you're lost it's so relentless
It is so big, it is small
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Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: October 07 2005 at 18:27
Pain of Salvation, and Rush
I love those bands now- Rush being my favorite band of all time now!
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Posted By: CrazyDiamond
Date Posted: October 07 2005 at 18:29
opeth and the world of prog metal. 
___BYE___
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Posted By: JohnSnow
Date Posted: October 07 2005 at 23:18
Opeth - I was completely turned off by the growls but with songs like black rose immortal and drapery falls, I began to open up to then. I still have a little trouble with some Krautrock, but that is just because I do not have the ability to get my hands on many albums by bands in that genre
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Posted By: Toob-Wurm
Date Posted: October 07 2005 at 23:26
Tony R wrote:
You know,without wishing to sound pretentious (moi?) that's what really differentiates Prog and other rock music.There is so much lurking under the surface and sometimes you need 5 or 6 careful listens before it all makes sense.
Prog is like ogres and onions.........
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Well, it certianly has layers...
It took me a long time to get into Yes (I still don't love them, but they earn a spin on my sterio every now and then). The Mars Volta is probably what helped me understand Yes a little better.
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Posted By: bluetailfly
Date Posted: October 07 2005 at 23:36
I used to absolutely hate Bobby Darin, and now I really like his music. I think it's the most radical shift I've ever had.
I know, not prog, but noteworthy nonetheless...
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Posted By: eugene
Date Posted: October 07 2005 at 23:55
20 years ago I totally ignored Frank Zappa, as I was into Deep Purple/Black Sabbath/Led Zeppelin stuff. This has changed.
10 years ago I could not stand any rio/avant things, as was into metal stuff like Manilla road/Cirith Ungol/Megadeth/Metallica/OverKill and so on. This has changed as well.
Month ago - Magma and other Zeuhl freaks were completely out of my range - almost unbearable, but now I am slowly getting into these....
Thus I'm progressing , I guess.......
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Posted By: bluetailfly
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 00:00
eugene wrote:
20 years ago I totally ignored Frank Zappa, as I was into Deep Purple/Black Sabbath/Led Zeppelin stuff. This has changed.
10 years ago I could not stand any rio/avant things, as was into metal stuff like Manilla road/Cirith Ungol/Megadeth/Metallica/OverKill and so on. This has changed as well.
Month ago - Magma and other Zeuhl freaks were completely out of my range - almost unbearable, but now I am slowly getting into these....
Thus I'm progressing , I guess.......
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Yes, well said, and that is part of what the great prog rock quest is all about - always attempting to appreciate the unknown.
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Posted By: ldlanberg
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 00:11
I can honestly say that every band I wound up listening to regularly I had liked from first hearing them. Yes, Genesis, King Crimson, Deep Purple and early-period Steve Miller Band. (The latter is not a typo).
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Posted By: bluetailfly
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 00:16
ldlanberg wrote:
I can honestly say that every band I wound up listening to regularly I had liked from first hearing them. Yes, Genesis, King Crimson, Deep Purple and early-period Steve Miller Band. (The latter is not a typo).
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Yes, Steve Miller made some beautiful music. And I know he went through an early phase, but I always liked the middle period stuff like "Fly Like an Eagle" and I even like that tune "I heat up, I can't cool down".
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Posted By: ldlanberg
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 00:43
bluetailfly wrote:
Yes, Steve Miller made some beautiful music. And I know he went through an early phase, but I always liked the middle period stuff like "Fly Like an Eagle" and I even like that tune "I heat up, I can't cool down".
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Hello,
Miller was a genius in his own right. His earliest stuff from 1968 and 1969 was among the artsy type of music that pulled me into (what is coined as) Prog rock. Children of the Future is in fact classified by most professional reviewers as a Top Progressive Rock album, for that year (1968). This is one thing professional reviwers may have gotten right.
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Posted By: bluetailfly
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 00:47
ldlanberg wrote:
bluetailfly wrote:
Yes, Steve Miller made some beautiful music. And I know he went through an early phase, but I always liked the middle period stuff like "Fly Like an Eagle" and I even like that tune "I heat up, I can't cool down".
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Hello,
Miller was a genius in his own right. His earliest stuff from 1968 and 1969 was among the artsy type of music that pulled me into (what is coined as) Prog rock. Children of the Future is in fact classified by most professional reviewers as a Top Progressive Rock album, for that year (1968). This is one thing professional reviwers may have gotten right.
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You've convinced me, I'm going to pick up that lp tomorrow, even if can only find it in vinyl. 
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Posted By: ldlanberg
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 01:02
bluetailfly wrote:
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You've convinced me, I'm going to pick up that lp tomorrow, even if can only find it in vinyl. 
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That should be in CD format, I don't see why not. Their follow-up Sailor is also excellent. Both contain some trippy-sounding instrumentals, only its Ben Sidran's confident Organ and not a synthesizer doing the painting.
I read a theory, once, that the reason that Children of the Future comes across as so strongly psychedelic is because Miller was actually lampooning the freaked-out musicians of that day. Miller is a pretty intelligent guy, so this theory may be valid.
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Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 06:53
Genesis, the first song i ever heard was Suppers ready after like 1 min i turned it off... at the time i thougt the whole song whuld sound like those first min...
that was some years ago then when i found this site and started too read about all people praising them i desided to try again, it wasent easy but now some months later i love em and have 6 albums
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Posted By: SomethingGood
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 07:23
My dad played me a bit of stuff by Yes and Rush and similar bands when
i was really young, but at that time i was into pop and thought it was
all boring. how wrong i was!
more recently, i wrote off opeth after hearing a couple of their
heavier tracks... but rediscovered them through Damnation, now they're
one of my favourite bands.
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Posted By: Chipiron
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 08:02
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Posted By: Uther Pendragon
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 08:28
Most of the Progressive Metal but now I've got to say that Dream
Theater, Shadow Gallery etc, are some of my favourite bands now.
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Posted By: gok22us
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 09:14
GENESIS
i first heard Watcher of Skies, and it did absolutely nothing for me. I also was not expecting Peter Gabriel's voice......when i first heard his voice, it made me cringe.
4 months later
i bought Lamb Lies Down On Broadway at a used cd shop for no reason, and I put it on shuffle, and i heard In The Cage, and was blown away by it. The vocals were still kind of weird, but more i listened, more i came to love Peter Gabriel, love the Lamb, and love Genesis period.
They're now my 3rd favorite band. i've bought Nursery Cryme, Foxtrot, SEBTP, The Lamb, and Genesis Live.
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 09:44
I'm beginning to like Neo-Prog ... I wouldn't have expected that two months ago.
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 10:48
Posted By: Ironing Mike
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 11:11
Further to the Steve Miller references, I recently picked up "Children of the
Future" on a Capitol Records CD (so it's available) after having owned and
loved the vinyl since it came out in '68. The title track is just stunning. And I
love how they did the title of the album in the artwork ... v. trippy! Haven't
seen "Sailor" around though.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 13:41
BAND I LOVED SCENE THE FIRST TIME I HEARD THEM :
RUSH(80'S)
PINK FLOYD(80'S)
YES ( DRAMA)
GENESIS( SECOND OUT, TREE SIDE LIVE)
KANSAS (LIVE)
FOCUS ( I NEVER HAD ANY COMPLAINT ABOUT THESE WONDERFUL BAND)
SUPERTRAMP(LATE 70'S -80'S)
BAND THAT TOOK ME A LONG TIME TO GET INTO AND SOME TIME I DID NOT LIKE THEM.
EARLY GENESIS(GABRIEL ERA)EXCEPT TREPASS ( NOW I ONLY LIKE 70-80 GENESIS) I LOVE GRABRIEL VOICE AFTER I HATE IT. I NOW I AM A FREAK!!!
GONG (I HATED GONG ) BUT NOW ONE MY FAVORITE) DAVIED GONG
KING CRINSON (I ONLY LIKE THE SOFT SONGS ( INTHE COURT,EPITAPH) BUT THE WETTON-BRUFFORD WAS PAIN!!!! MY FAV ERA NOW!!!!
DREAM THEATER SCENE DAY ONE I HEARD THIS I SAID A METTALLICA RUSH WANNABE IT TOOK A VERY LONG TIME TO LIKE THEM. BUT AFTER I BOUGHT SCENE FROM A MEMORY DVD I WAS SO AMAZE HOW WELL THESE GUYS CAN PLAY AND I EMBRACE THEM EVER SCINE THAT DAY I BECAME A BIG FAN. THE LATEST ALBUMS IS SUPERB, BRILLIANT!!!
YES (TALES WAS A DISASTER AND WAIST OF TIME ) NOW IS A MASTER PIECE!!!
EARLY FOYD (SID BARRETT ERA WAS HORRIBLE AND UMMAGUMMA UFF THAT WAS TOGH!!!!)
LE ORME THE GUYS FROM ITALY. IT WAS HARD TO GET INTO SOME BAND SINGING IN A LANGUAGE THAT YOU DO NOT UNDESTAND EVEN THOUGH I SPEAK SPANISH!!!!
I STILL CAN'T GET INTO STYX,ELO,MUDDY BLUE, ASIA,MARILLON,ECT....TOO POP FOR ME
MAY BE ONE DAY I WILL GET INTO SOME AVANTPROG LIKES UNIVERS ZERO, HENRY COW AND SOME ZAPPA ALBUMS WHICH I CAN'T GET INTO RIGHT NOW BUT THEY MIGHT BE MY FUTURE MASTER PIECE!!!
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Posted By: Ironing Mike
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 20:18
I was interested to read about your listening journey, darksideone. I think
that what we have to work hardest on to digest is often the most enjoyable
(nutritious) for us in the long run.
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Posted By: Bilek
Date Posted: October 09 2005 at 08:20
This, thread should have been named "acquired taste" and I was already thinking of starting it... shame on you, Tony!               
my first reply is
Tangerine Dream
I hated their early albums before, listening to Cyclone changed my life! Then comes Force Majeure... I'm still not into Phaedra very much, but I listen to it almost automatically every now and then!!!! (maybe it's a sort of addiction! The same for Rubycon.) I'm discovering the Bootleg Box Sets at the moment... Both are great (will anyone add vol.2 in the discography??)
and most of the other Kraut/Avant/Rio stuff are acquired tastes, especially German ones!!!!
Can (I didn't specifically hate them, but I was somehow distant, just because of Soup in Ege Bamyasi!) Kraftwerk (wish I heard their first album and Organisation thing first!) Klaus Schulze (I still have to select very carefully, but his ash ra tempel background counts for everything!) Frank Zappa (oh that Hot Rats album!!! why hasn't anyone recommended that before!?!?!?!?)
some symphonic bands are also acquired tastes:
Van der Graaf Generator: I didn't hate them specifically, but could not find something to admire in the first listens.... I don't know what happened to me one evening: I was stunned by Pawn Hearts, an album which I heard at least 10 times before!!!! Gentle Giant is a taste I stilll couldn't acquire!!! I admire one song: Nothing at All nevertheless...
last, but not the least:
King Crimson
is the acquired taste of all times! I experienced the same feeling before digging into each of their 3 eras: '69-'74, '81-'84, '94-present...
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Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: October 09 2005 at 09:20
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
I'm beginning to like Neo-Prog ... I wouldn't have expected that two months ago. |
 
Many of the old-school don't think that Neo Prog is any good and won't even listen to it - well done for flying in the face of that sad old fashion!
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Posted By: alan_pfeifer
Date Posted: October 09 2005 at 10:47
JohnSnow wrote:
Opeth - I was completely turned off by the growls but with songs like black rose immortal and drapery falls, I began to open up to then. I still have a little trouble with some Krautrock, but that is just because I do not have the ability to get my hands on many albums by bands in that genre |
Same here, but it wasn't until I really got into heavier music that I really liked them.
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Posted By: RoyalJelly
Date Posted: October 11 2005 at 06:00
I grew up hating the Beach Boys, but being a grown up means
assessing things strictly by musical criterion...and "Pet Sounds"
is a milestone album, that even spurred the Beatles on to doing
"Sgt. Pepper's". There’s no songs about surfing on the album,
and in fact, Brian Wilson didn’t even know how to. But there’s
something very touching about the picture of this 24 year old
self-taught kid, who stops touring after several nervous
breakdowns, and inspired by „Rubber Soul“, decides he has to
create an American pop music of that depth and quality, with
top session musicians and his own peculiar arrangements
(who else in the U.S. thought of using a Theremine, or a big
plastic bottle, or baritone harmonica and harmonium?). "God
Only Knows" and "I Just Wasn't Made for these Times", these
are my favorites, but the whole album is on the same level, and
you’d have to look long and hard to find music of more sincerity
or of less cynicism. To say nothing of the totally interesting
melodies, progressions and vocal harmonies. This would have
to go under the heading of proto-prog, "Smile" would have
BEEN prog, if Wilson had been able to finish it (he finally did 35
years later). „They say I got brains, but they ain’t doin’ me no
good.“
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Posted By: ShW1
Date Posted: October 11 2005 at 06:37
RoyalJelly wrote:
I grew up hating the Beach Boys, but being a grown up means assessing things strictly by musical criterion...and "Pet Sounds" is a milestone album, that even spurred the Beatles on to doing "Sgt. Pepper's". There’s no songs about surfing on the album, and in fact, Brian Wilson didn’t even know how to. But there’s something very touching about the picture of this 24 year old self-taught kid, who stops touring after several nervous breakdowns, and inspired by „Rubber Soul“, decides he has to create an American pop music of that depth and quality, with top session musicians and his own peculiar arrangements (who else in the U.S. thought of using a Theremine, or a big plastic bottle, or baritone harmonica and harmonium?). "God Only Knows" and "I Just Wasn't Made for these Times", these are my favorites, but the whole album is on the same level, and you’d have to look long and hard to find music of more sincerity or of less cynicism. To say nothing of the totally interesting melodies, progressions and vocal harmonies. This would have to go under the heading of proto-prog, "Smile" would have BEEN prog, if Wilson had been able to finish it (he finally did 35 years later). „They say I got brains, but they ain’t doin’ me no good.“ |
appreciate your good taste !!!
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