Eternal Wondering of an Interactive Poll
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Posted By: nick_h_nz
Subject: Eternal Wondering of an Interactive Poll
Date Posted: June 22 2021 at 14:03
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Samsara. A word in Sanskrit that means ‘wandering’. The aimless wandering through successive states of mundane existence. The endless cycle of birth, growth, decay and death. Eternal wandering of a homeless soul. I first came across the term Samsara in 1999 when a song of that name appeared on a Tea Party album. Upon looking up what it meant, I realised I was familiar with the concept, but simply never knew the name. I suspect it’s always been a subject that has appeared in popular music, but it was only last year that I gave it much thought. Suddenly there seemed to be a whole heap of albums centred around the concept of samsara - either overtly and explicitly, or simply coincidentally (or perhaps not) describing it via one allegory or another. Some of the albums found resolution/liberation (moksha/mukti) and some were left still wandering. My first encounter with samsara in music in 2020 was “Kala” by Mobius. I was reminded again of samsara by “Metempsychosis” by hybris. “Dysergy” from Golden Caves had a song called “Samsara” that neatly dovetailed into the overall concept of the album. Next up was “Homeless Soul” by Eternal Wanderers. Samsara as told allegorically through a sci-fi tale. Deep Energy Orchestra and Postvorta both play with the theme, too, on “The Return” and “Sidereal” respectively. Then there is Outside In with “Karmatrain”, and it’s still only May! Simen Lyngroth’s “Looking for the Spark like It’s Just Around the Corner” is basically a tale of samsara. Dool’s “Summerland” encapsulates samsara and mukti in the names alone. Dool comes from a term for wandering (just like samsara) and describes the same sense of wandering (as samsara), while Summerland is effectively the equivalent of mukti - as Summerland is not a place, but rather the highest spiritual level that can be achieved. The band deliberately had an Indian sound throughout the album, most overtly on God Particle. Avandra’s “Skylighting” addresses existence and mortality, samsara and rebirth. I’m sure there were others too, that I’ve not managed to recall, and more still, that I was not even aware of. I don’t mind if your selection is from PA, so long as it is not too well known. Just whatever you think encapsulates the idea of samsara in a song, whether it is actually about samsara, or makes you think of the concept of eternal wandering and/or looking for the spark like it’s just around the corner. ------------- https://tinyurl.com/nickhnz-tpa" rel="nofollow - Reviewer for The Progressive Aspect |
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: June 22 2021 at 14:54
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Interesting topic, and I think this must be my favourite opening post yet. Great job on short notice. As an aside, we have a band in PA (Krautrock) called Samsara Blues Experiment (to any that don't know). And we have one called Samsara. I'm going to have to think about this -- my thought processes are very much of the aimless wandering through successive states of mundane existence type. I'm glad you included ones in PA, as my associative thinking is going along the Krautrock (Sergius Golowin?), Kosmische, and Indo-Prog/Raga Rock route, and Alice Coltrane...? Tangerine Dream....? If instrumentals are okay, this evokes certain samsara-like qualities to me. Alice Coltrane - Journey In Satchidananda As does this. Popol Vuh - In den gärten pharaos I might need to sleep on this to think of more appropriate things. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: June 22 2021 at 17:18
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You all know Donovan. The Samsara theme can't help but remind me of Donovan's Sutras album (1996) which is one of my favorite auteur folk albums by far. Rick Rubin after bringing Johnny Cash to success, was unable to do the same with this album which however has the same characteristics: clear sound, folk acoustic arrangement, very sober but with many details taken care of in the background. Simple music, based on vocals, acoustic guitar and melody, if it involves it's fantastic, if it leaves you cold, it's just simple melodic pop music. It involves me, I feel the authenticity of the artist, who was one of the few to remain tied to the oriental philosophies that he had embraced when he was very young. I hope that not everyone knows Sutras and that some of you like these songs, so that you will want to listen to the whole album. 1) Nirvana Or 2) Everlasting Sea Or 3) The Evernow? ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: June 22 2021 at 18:01
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Lovely idea for a poll! All three of mine are not named "samsara," in any way, but all are certainly related to spiritual journeying/changing/eternalism. Two are, incidentally, live performances, as I like these particular versions best.
First up will be "Un Soupil Eternal," (The Eternal Breath) by Dhafer Youssef. This is just a superb ensemble brought to my attention here at PA in a discussion about Middle Eastern music and prog (he is not a PA artist, however). Next is "Tripping Over Gravity," by Sam Phillips. This one makes me envision someone who has stepped out into space, perhaps an unexpected death, and it's not all that comfortable of a journey. Thirdly is Lavinia Meijer, performing Philip Glass' "Metamorphosis," on classical harp (sorry, Kees  ). I find this just mesmerizing, especially in this setting, which so beautifully shows her absolute concentration. ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: June 23 2021 at 01:53
interesting topic, I'm gonna start looking for some songs as soon as I can. 
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Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: June 23 2021 at 02:20
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Incomurdo (Hymn to the Atman) by Kansas is kind of inspired by Samsara but I'm afraid it's a little too widely known. xD ------------- “On the day of my creation, I fell in love with education. And overcoming all frustration, a teacher I became.” — Ernest Vong |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: June 23 2021 at 02:27
we had a couple of prog rounds, the only rule we had was that the songs were from albums with less than 50 ratings on PA.
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Hrychu wrote:Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: June 23 2021 at 03:15
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Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: June 23 2021 at 04:51
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Ah, nice theme! It immediately made me think of a track with the title "Samsara", so I will put up that one first before I find something weirder... This first suggestion is by the quite interesting French electro-pop/rock group La féline, led by singer, songwriter and guitar player Agnès Gayraud. There are more tracks on their 2017 album (Triomphe) that could fit the theme, but at least for this one it is explicit. It's a short one: shows that eternal wanderings don't necessarily have to last forever... La féline - Samsara: Lyrics (my translation): Sense your life, start Sense your life, spent Sense your life, compensated Sense your life, restart Who knows where you will be? (repeated) In thousand years The next time It's just a moment It's just a vessel (lyrics repeated but not necessarily in the same order...) ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: June 23 2021 at 05:09
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Birth, School, Work, Death - The Godfathers. Not a big band in my collection, but one that immediately came to mind. (My intuition is that this gives a somehow different spin on things than Nick had in mind, so very worldly, that's what I like about it.) |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: June 23 2021 at 05:18
| ^I thought of the Godfather's song as well. |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: June 23 2021 at 06:08
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These should probably be out of competition, fairly popular and on PA, but I may consider one of them as entry if people write that they didn't know them. Anyway, here are two of the most important songs in my life, and for me they are bang on topic. Talk Talk, After the Flood & Life's What You Make It. |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: June 23 2021 at 07:10
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In another realm of music, my second suggestion is from a collaboration between Dustin O'Halloran and Adam Bryanbaum Witzie under the name A Winged Victory for the Sullen, an instrumental piece (and I think I take away the prize for the longest title): A Winged Victory for the Sullen - We Played Some Open Chords and Rejoiced, for the Earth Had Circled the Sun Yet Another Year: ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: June 23 2021 at 08:14
| @Cristi, 2nd video doesn't play for me. Artist and title of song? |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: June 23 2021 at 18:08
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First listen through for me, up to here, and awaiting the mystery second choice of Cristi's, as I also can't "see," it. Greg: Alice Coltrane “Journey In Satchidananda” This one I know, Greg, and a fine piece of
music it is. Alice Coltrane went far out
of the usual harp box to create what she did and intertwine sounds the way that
she did. This is superb and I’m sure
those who are unfamiliar will quite enjoy it.
Popol Vuh “In den gärten pharaos”
I was introduced to Popol Vuh from seeing Herzog’s “Aguirre, The Wrath
of God,” film, back in the 1970s. This
piece is new to me, though. It begins
with some airy/eerie synth sounds and spooky voice-like effects, also from
synth. Some percussing begins after a
few finger-cymbal/bell-like tings after about 5 minutes and the synths change
more to flutishness, as the percussion provides a more solid backbone with it’s
rhythm. A few chning-ing sounds appear
randomly. Nine minutes in and there are
some sci-fi/bowed saw sorts of effects that come wafting through. At 13, some soft electric piano notes slide
on in, and lovely it is, indeed. The synth sounds become quite whirly and
swirly, with a feeling of water, to me.
Oh, and the end is water lapping and small wave sounds. Lorenzo: I must ask if you’ve seen the recent David Lynch-directed Donovan video, “Shaman.” If not, you will see that he still has retained his devotion to esoteric beliefs. I did not know of this recording, so looking forward to hearing it. I love a lot of Donovan tunes, most especially “Widow With A Shawl,” from his Gift from a Flower to A Garden release, which I can see at the front of one of my shelves of LPs. “Nirvana” Song begins with clearly picked guitar and Donovan in his lovely, soft voice. Love the minor key of this, it’s about Nirvana, yet there is a sense of sadness to it, as well. Keyboards with single notes play along in the background. These keyboards and the drums help convey a sense of a step-by-step journey to the song. “Everlasting Sea” A plaintive love song, another one with a bit of melancholy to it. Simply produced with a lush cello, later joined with a violin to add to the feeling of eternity. Donovan’s voice makes a soft chorus along with the solo vocal during the final verse. “The Evernow” Dirgelike start and Donovan using his lower register, here. At the second verse, flute is added and the feel becomes more hopeful and peaceful, rather than dark. All three are very contemplative, my personal favourite is the second one, for the arrangement of the strings. Cristi: Nigel Stanford “Sea of Tranquility” Keyboards/synths begin the piece of music, drums kick in after a few measures. Astronaut voiceover enters. Flute-y synths begin, and the astronauts become mixed farther back. He intensity slowly builds as the keyboards become more and more layered. The astronauts are more to the fore and the music also becomes more forceful with vocal chorus/angelic choir effects added. The piece fades to an end. Alternativ Quartet “Linistea Astupa Goluri” This one has a raga-rock sort of beginning as far as the guitars, in a minor key and there are some swirlies and also very far back voices, almost indiscernable. The full band kicks in with a lovely electric lead, bass and drums. An apocalyptic feel. The guitar has a sort of galactic battle with either a loop or another guitar? All the while the raga sound persists, then lead-type guitar bows out for the bass to shine for a bit. The lead electric melee returns, then the piece ends with deep swirls spiraling outward. Kees: La féline “Samsara” Lovely high voiced female vocals peppered with harmonizing with herself. Electric guitar and repeating keyboard lines with a very subdued drum kit at the back. Chill-inducing choral effects with her voice(s) come forcefully to the fore. This has a lovely hypnotic feel. Excellent choice. A Winged Victory for the Sullen “We Played Some Open Chords and Rejoiced, for the Earth Had Circled the Sun Yet Another Year” Some keyboard sounds begin the piece, then solo piano. There is an echo-y effect on the piano, a wide-open sound. There are some sustained notes on synth, perhaps, along with this. The sounds gradually swell with strings. Very serene piece of music, another one with a sense of eternity. My only complaint is that I could have listened to it for quite a bit longer. Lewian: The Godfathers “Birth, School, Work, Death” Going from the sublime to the mundane, everyday grind here. New Wave/punkish band here. I actually do remember this, now that I hear it. Has a very hooky repeating guitar line and they are a very tight outfit. I enjoy the sarcasm and cynicism. Talk Talk “After the Flood” Simple piano notes start with some wispy effected guitar notes sliding across. Organ slyly enters from the side. Ooooh, love the vocalist, when he comes in. I know the band’s name, but not sure I’ve heard much, and surely, not this. It has a live cut feeling. There are some noise-parts that come in, they are effectively done, very raspy. I really like the atmosphere of this, wandering about and his voice is so perfect for this piece, like someone speaking to himself late at night, somehow. Lots of emotion in his voice. The piece eventually fades out. Wow. 😊 Followed by Talk Talk “Life’s What You Make It” Aha! This one I DO know. I just didn’t realize it. What a voice. Wonderful song and a great pick for here (although many others may be way more familiar with the rest of their repertoire). The second piece was my favourite of these 3, plus I didn't know it. ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: June 23 2021 at 19:22
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Kind of tough one for me. I'll post a song at a time. The theme made me think of this video first and then song. I've mentioned Dan Deacon before in these polls. Dan Deacon - Sat By A Tree |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: June 24 2021 at 00:19
Occultation - Forever Hereafter I'll look for another video link |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: June 24 2021 at 02:16
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@Nickie: Thanks for your comments and I'm happy that you liked both of my submissions (so far). You'd probably guess that I can recommend you the whole album of A Winged Victory for the Sullen. In the mean-time, you have rebaptised Lewian into Greg... Not sure if both of them would agree with that and it might lead to some confusion... ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: June 24 2021 at 07:37
Whoopsies, thank you! I don't mix them up in my mind, but recently referring to "Logan," now as "Greg," probably prompted my fingers to "Greg," at the "L." I beg both of your forgiveness. And yes, I've added that collaboration to my "Listen To," list. Thank you!
------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: June 25 2021 at 09:55
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*Sigh* I still love coming here when I have time. So I hope you don't mind if I put a song up on this poll. I never knew what this concept was called, and I think I have the right idea after reading Nick's description. I think this song conveys the idea of the human species in an eternal wandering state and lets us know that this wandering and pondering has been going on forever....no one knows the answers to those burning questions. M. Ward is a master of lyrics in my opinion... "What do you do with the pieces of a broken heart? And how can a man like me remain in the light? And if life is really as short as they say, then why is the night so long? And then the sun went down and he sang for me this song...." M. Ward - Chinese Translation ------------- https://ibb.co/8x0xjR0" rel="nofollow">  |
Posted By: Hiram
Date Posted: June 25 2021 at 10:04
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Excellent, interesting theme. I found it, however, rather difficult to think of suitable songs and I'll admit I'm not 100% satisfied with my choices but here goes anyway. Tuomari Nurmio (Judge Nurmio) is a Finnish singer/songwriter active since late 1970s. He has done records in various styles, but there's often a bluesy and folksy tone. "Ei kukaan" ("nobody" or "no one") is from his 1988 album "Kuu" ("the moon") and tells about a kind of eternal wanderer who doesn't know where he's going to or coming from nor who he is anymore. Tuomari Nurmio - Ei kukaan Vesa-Matti Loiri is a hugely popular Finnish actor (since 1960s) and singer (since 1970s). He was probably the most popular Finnish comedian in 70s and 80s. This song is from his latest and, according to him, last album "Pyhät tekstit" ("sacred texts"). All the lyrics on the album are from different religious or philosophical books, either direct quotations or adaptations. This one is called "Sielun pohjalla" ("at the bottom of the soul") and it's based on Hindu teachings and writings. Vesa-Matti Loiri - Sielun pohjalla |
Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: June 25 2021 at 10:18
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And how could I (or anyone) resist posting this.... Tungevaag & Raaban - "Samsara" ------------- https://ibb.co/8x0xjR0" rel="nofollow"> |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: June 25 2021 at 10:29
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^ You should be ashamed of yourself! ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: June 25 2021 at 11:00
Hiram, I can't "see" this one, maybe this one is it? Of course, you may not be able to see it, either. It's 4:21 in length and the first frame is a guy with a bag on his head, then a Guy Fawkes mask, etc. ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: Hiram
Date Posted: June 25 2021 at 12:12
Yes, it's the same song. edit: ...almost! The version I posted has a harmonica solo after every chorus, whereas the one you posted has a guitar solo. Damn, I haven't heard that before. Maybe it's an alternative version included on some reissue of the album? The one with the harmonica is the original version on the album. It's exactly the same otherwise. edit 2: The version with guitar solos instead of harmonica appears on a compilation, it seems.
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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: June 25 2021 at 12:14
Excellent, thank you! ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: Hiram
Date Posted: June 25 2021 at 12:19
| Snicolette, please see my edited post above. |
Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: June 25 2021 at 13:34
I only did what everyone else secretly wanted to do.....  ------------- https://ibb.co/8x0xjR0" rel="nofollow"> |
Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: June 26 2021 at 04:17
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Sorry for having been absent from my own poll. I had my first covid jab the other day, and the side effects laid me low big time. It wasn’t quite so horrendous as when I actually had covid, but it still wasn’t a pleasant experience. In terms of recent interactive polls, it was certainly more hell than heaven. I’ll be editing this post as I listen to the music from the first page, while I try to catch up. Greg Alice Coltrane - Much of Alice Coltrane’s music perfectly captures samsara, and often (probably always) intentionally so. This is one of my favourite Alice Coltrane albums. I really love what she did with the harp in the context of jazz. The harp is such a wonderful instrument that can be used in a variety of musical styles and genres, but rarely is. I enjoy Alice Coltrane’s piano playing, too, but it is on the harp that she really draws me in. Popul Vuh - My two favourite PV albums are the debut and the album from which this track is taken. I realise most people prefer Hosianna Mantra and beyond, but for me these two albums are far more interesting and enjoyable. I can totally get why you would think of this track for this poll. Two absolutely superb choices, and the only reason I’m unlikely to give a vote for either if one becomes your nomination, is because I am already familiar with both. But I also love both so much, I will be tempted to break that self-imposed “rule”! Lorenzo Donovan - Holy crap! I didn’t even know this album existed. Donovan is a hugely overlooked artist, even though he had great success back in the day, he’s largely forgotten about when people speak about the great music of the ‘60s. I love so much of his classic material, that it never occurred to me he might still be making music - and from these three tracks alone, some of the most breathtakingly beautiful music he’s ever made. In terms of samsara, it would be near impossible to deny that Nirvana doesn’t fit, given that (depending on religious belief, and accompanying definition) nirvana and mukti are largely the same concept. Nirvana is my favourite of the three songs here, but The Evernow is snapping at its heels. Nickie Dhafur Youssef - I was introduced to this amazing artist only earlier this year (to be precise in April by Leonardo Pavkovic), and was instantly enamoured. My favourite performances I have watched/listened to are the phenomenally talented quartet of Youssef, Tigran Hamasyan, Chris Jennings, and Mark Guiliana. Les Ondes Orientales is another Dhafur Youssef piece I think fits nicely with the idea of samsara. A great suggestion, Nickie! Sam Philips - Possibly an odd choice given she began as a Christian music artist, and although moved to the mainstream (or, at least the fringes of it) and away from Christian music, on the surface Christianity would appear to not really have much in common with the idea of samsara. However, I can totally hear why you’ve submitted this song. I’ve always liked any Sam Philips music I’ve heard, but I’ve never listened to an album. This song is new to me, and I really like it. It might be the push for me to finally listen to an album. Apart from the apt description you give to this song, even without listening, the concept of samsara could also easily be described as tripping over gravity. Lavinia Meijer - I love this piece, but I’m afraid I didn’t get the samsara vibe. That’s done to me, though - as unless samsara is overtly and explicitly referenced, it is totally down to individual interpretation. So I’m sure you have good reason for this speaking of samsara to you. Cristi Nigel Stanford - Well, for patriotic reasons, I have to applaud your submitting a Kiwi composer! I think I would perhaps have gone for something from Timescapes (perhaps The Approaching Light?) over Solar Echoes, but I can still get where you’re coming from. Occultation - Oh yeah, this track screams samsara. Never heard of this band, but I like them. They remind me a little of Dool, though they don’t have a great deal of sonic similarity, so much as they are seem to similarly inspired conceptually - even if they go in quite different directions. I’m definitely going to check out more by this band. Alternativ Quarter - Another band that’s new to me, that I think I have to check out! They remind me quite a bit of Indukti (who, of course have a track called Sansara - an alternative spelling of samsara). This definitely fits the feel of samsara, and it feels like you’ve presented them on a scale (to me, I guess it is important to add) of increasing feeling of samsara, which is really near, as it feels like the increasing realisation of being caught in samsara, which is necessary before reaching mukti. Kees La Féline - I love this song! The Interactive Polls are such a great way to be introduced to music I’d likely never come across otherwise. I have to admit, without the title, and without you having given the lyrics, I probably wouldn’t have realised this song was as fitting as it is. But it absolutely is, and I will be investigating this band further. A Winged Victory for the Sullen - I’ll admit, I wasn’t aware of this band until The Undivided Five was released a couple of years back, but I did try and make up for lost time, so this track is familiar to me. And yes, it definitely fits. Nice one! Arvo Pärt - This is pretty much samsara - our life (/lives) in an infinity of mirrors. It’s one of the best encapsulations of samsara in musical form presented so far, and also one of my favourite pieces presented so far. So it’s a winner on two counts, for me. But as I’m familiar with it, it means I’d be unlikely to vote for it, no matter how much I love it. Lewian The Godfathers - Haven’t heard this one, but it’s actually exactly what I was thinking of, in a way. A lot of songs and albums that address samsara do not necessarily do so knowingly, so much as express the concept of samsara within the lyrics. This is a perfect representation of that. Not really to my taste, but it is more obviously about samsara (to me) than some other submissions so far. Talk Talk - Like Sam Philips earlier, this is an interesting one, as Talk Talk music is very often full of Christian imagery, and the name of After the Flood, as well as the lyrics seem to point to to story of Noah and the arc - but it’s also very vague and allegorical. I’ve read people suggest it’s about the Holocaust, or about personal salvation, or, or, or…. And it’s easy to read into it the idea of karma, reincarnation and rebirth, so I can see why it could be considered for this poll. Life’s What You Make, again, might be Christian based, but by title and lyrics it is also very easy to connect to samsara. Great band, and great song choices. But I would guess, as you suggested, that if you put either up for nomination, neither would garner many votes, as most people here tend not to vote for songs they already know. Geo Dan Deacon - Showing that the path self-discovery and inner peace need not be quiet! This song works, though so do others from the same album. Become a Mountain, the Arp suite (particularly Arp II and Arp III) and Fell Into the Ocean all feel as much about samsara as Sat by a Tree. Good choice, and I hope some others dig this. Mike M. Ward - never heard of M. Ward, but this is a nice wee song, and for sure is a good example of samsara, just as you describe. It’s not really to my taste, and I’m not sure why, as I like quite a bit of folk and singer songwriter sort of stuff. Maybe I just need to hear more. I shall listen further… ------------- https://tinyurl.com/nickhnz-tpa" rel="nofollow - Reviewer for The Progressive Aspect |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: June 26 2021 at 05:37
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^ That's awkward, those side effects. I had my second jab this week and fortunately no particular side effects. Wanted to post a third suggestion, the most minimalist of the three (and I know already that Anders will not like this one...). I discovered the music of Arvo Pärt thanks to the film Gerry (a wonderful - minimalist - film, my preferred one by Gus van Sant), which is completely about wandering (and getting lost), so this music is for me completely associated with this theme. This piece has different versions, either for violin and piano or for violoncello and piano. I choose the latter one because I very much love the violoncello as instrument... The performance here is by Filipe Melo (piano) and Ana Cláudia Serrão (violoncelo). Arvo Pärt - Spiegel im Spiegel: ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: June 26 2021 at 05:47
Everyone I know who has had both jabs, either had no side effects with either, or side effects only with the first jab. So I’m feeling hopeful that I won’t have to go through this a third time! I discovered the music of Arvo Pärt thanks to Steven Wilson. This young composer reminds me a bit of Arvo Pärt, which is not to say he sounds alike, of course. https://jacklogankennedy.bandcamp.com/album/musique-classique-damour" rel="nofollow - https://jacklogankennedy.bandcamp.com/album/musique-classique-damour ------------- https://tinyurl.com/nickhnz-tpa" rel="nofollow - Reviewer for The Progressive Aspect |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: June 26 2021 at 08:27
------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: June 26 2021 at 08:33
Thank you for your thoughtful replies to my entries. I had no idea that Sam Phillips had been a Christian artist first, this song was my introduction to her. I think of Metamorphosis as being closely akin to Samsara, in the sense of something being one thing, yet becoming another, while still also being the same thing, the constancy and inevitability of change (but maybe that's just me). I have been completely enthralled by Dhafer Youssef since Sean Trane introduced me to him on PA a few weeks ago. I'd enjoyed some solo releases by Tigran Hamasyan over the last year, and was pleasantly surprised to see him here, as well. ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: June 26 2021 at 09:44
Oh, ok, now I understand. I guess in my head I never considered that way of thinking - and now that you’ve pointed it out to me, metamorphosis IS close to the concept of metempsychosis (which is how samsara is normally “categorised”), for the exact reason you give. Funnily enough, Sam Phillips could have sung about metamorphosis, as it can be a Christian concept, while metempsychosis is not. I’m not a Christian myself, so I could get this horribly wrong, but from what I understand letting God into your life is he beginning of your metamorphosis, as anyone who belongs to Christ becomes a new person. Or something along those lines. I have no problem with understanding why you and Lewian made your suggestions for Sam Philips and Talk Talk, as the songs can definitely be understood to represent samsara - but I think it is certainly a case of Barthes’s “Death of the Author”, as I’m fairly sure this won’t have been the meaning intended by the composers, who were both Christian, and often used Christian imagery and allegory in their lyrics. I have no problem with metamorphosis being used, either, so I apologise if I perhaps brushed off your third suggestion. It simply didn’t occur to me how similar the concepts of metamorphosis and metempsychosis are. I’d like to blame it on covid brain fog, but I think it’s just because I can be quite thick at times….. 🤪 ------------- https://tinyurl.com/nickhnz-tpa" rel="nofollow - Reviewer for The Progressive Aspect |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: June 26 2021 at 12:50
------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: June 26 2021 at 18:55
------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: June 26 2021 at 19:08
------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: June 27 2021 at 02:04
No, that was purely for enjoyment/discussion, I haven’t decided on my selections yet. I ought to get onto that. I’m still playing catch-up on life after my lost days post-covid jab. ------------- https://tinyurl.com/nickhnz-tpa" rel="nofollow - Reviewer for The Progressive Aspect |
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: June 27 2021 at 02:15
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Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: June 27 2021 at 04:47
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^ Nice piece of work, but it maybe lacks a bit of development...My personal take on the music put up so far: Logan: Alice Coltrane takes me indeed on a wandering trip in a dreamlike environment - very appeasing, with a nice underlying groove. I actually know Popol Vuh mainly through their film music, but never delved into their album work. Maybe here too, I would like to have a film with it, it's a bit too ambient to my tastes. Not unpleasant, but it makes me longing for a soaring electric guitar now... jamesbaldwin: Interesting choice! I know only Donovan's 60s music, so discovering here his more recent work. I won't suddenly become a Donovan fan, but it is a good listen, all three of them. From the three, I probably prefer The Evernow. Snicolette: Dhafer Youssef delivers an incredible duet between clarinet and voice, wonderful, as is the track as a whole, with the electric guitar intro and later the oud together with the clarinet. Beautiful. Tripping Over Gravitiy by Sam Philips has a nice dreamy quality and I like the sonic quality of it, but it doesn't really wake me up. Lavinia Meijer playing Philip Glass on harp. Don't worry Nickie, I can cope with it, but the harp as solo instrument still doesn't convince me. Neither does this work by Glass (I very much like minimalist music but somehow Glass' music hardly ever convinced me, I don't know why - unless he plays something by Reich...). Cristi: Sea of Tranquility by Nigel Stanford is the kind of electronic music that somehow leaves me completely cold and somehow Occultation sounds a bit too forced with the obligatory tempo changes on Forever Hereafter. But they create an interesting atmosphere. Alternativ Quartet is much more to my liking: For me this piece has much more musicality than your other two suggestions and conveys some emotion. Without hesitation my preferred one of your suggestions. Lewian: Ah, a welcome change in the samsara pace with the Godfathers. In a similar vein I was thinking of King Crimson's Eat, Sex, Sleep, Drink, Dream... Nice straight rock song! Talk Talk, yes, very known, but a good choice here. Especially After the Flood fits the theme very well here. Great music! mathman: I remember Dan Deacon and liked some of his work you presented in a previous poll, but not all. This one is much more "poppier" in a way. It's OK, but I'm not as convinced as with some of his other work (and the video fits the theme maybe better than the music...). TCat: M Ward gives us a very nice uplifting song. Very americana, folky with a country flavor. I like this. The lyrics are indeed wonderful and maybe more "samsara" than the music itself... Never heard of Tungevaag & Raaban before and I hadn't now: shameful pop (but well, that means that it must be "popular" - not with me; aren't you afraid being banned from PA because of this? ) Hiram: Wonderful, this bluesy contribution by Tuomari Nurmio. Maybe rather classic in a way, but I like it very much: a nice groove and good wandering atmosphere. With Vesa-Matti Loiri song I imagine myself wandering along the shore of one of those many Finnish lakes. I don't understand the lyrics, but he sure conveys something special. I really like both of your choices; maybe the latter has more singularity in it. ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: June 27 2021 at 06:27
Very moved by your reaction, particularly to After The Flood. As I wrote, this is one of the most important songs in my life. Thanks for taking the time to share your reactions! Also thank you to the other who did that, sorry, not enough time to respond to all of you individually, but I love how the music shared here is listened to properly. I try to do the same each time, sorry that I often don't find the time to write (and I'm not much of a writer). Nick: I was aware of some nods to christianity in Talk Talk's lyrics but you mentioned some other. I have a tendency to ignore such things but in fact there's something in this hint that makes me want to explore this more.
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Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: June 27 2021 at 08:14
Not being a Christian, and not having ever been a Christian, I tend to ignore such things too. I’m fact, I’m sure I overlook a lot of references and allusions, simply because I’m not Christian so don’t recognise them for what they are. I think many more Christian artists tend to incorporate their faith in their lyrics than most people realise. It’s usually only particularly obvious when they start preaching, or are overtly a Christian Music artist or band. One of my absolute favourite albums in my late teens was Merge by For Love Not Lisa, and at the time it completely passed me by that they were a Christian band. I had been listening to the album for a couple of years before it occurred to me that they were singing Christian themes. I definitely have no problem, in general, with bands singing about this sort of thing, even if I’m not Christian myself. It’s when I feel like I’m being preached at, that I find it harder to listen to…. ------------- https://tinyurl.com/nickhnz-tpa" rel="nofollow - Reviewer for The Progressive Aspect |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: June 27 2021 at 08:30
Thanks Nick. I agree with the other songs. And it was also the video that made think of it first. Also, Deacon's song "When I Was Done Dying" and accompanying video. |
Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: June 27 2021 at 08:38
I had a feeling it was more the video than anything else that made you choose that particular song from that album. I would definitely recommend anyone who wasn’t such a fan of “Sat by a Tree” to give a listen to the other tracks mentioned. I wouldn’t go so far as to say “Sat by a Tree” is an anomaly on the album, but it is not exactly representative. https://dandeacon.bandcamp.com/album/mystic-familiar" rel="nofollow - https://dandeacon.bandcamp.com/album/mystic-familiar ------------- https://tinyurl.com/nickhnz-tpa" rel="nofollow - Reviewer for The Progressive Aspect |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: June 27 2021 at 08:39
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This is from Bill Laswell's album City of Light inspired by the region of Banaras. |
Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: June 27 2021 at 08:46
One of my favourite albums from this year begins in “Benares”, and ends on “Nirvana Beach”. From my review ( http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=72507" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=72507 )
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Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: June 27 2021 at 09:36
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^I'm going to check that out. I do like "sludgy psychedelia." The Laswell album was recorded in Banaras. https://infinitefog.bandcamp.com/album/city-of-light" rel="nofollow - https://infinitefog.bandcamp.com/album/city-of-light Features tabla work by Trilok Gurtu, a track by Coil, and the spoken words by Lori Carson.
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Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: June 27 2021 at 10:08
Listening now. Thanks for the Bandcamp link. (I love Bandcamp!) This is such a great album. Thanks for bringing it to my attention! 🤗👍🏻 ------------- https://tinyurl.com/nickhnz-tpa" rel="nofollow - Reviewer for The Progressive Aspect |
Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: June 27 2021 at 14:45
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Sorry it took so long to respond Nickie and Kees. It is the same song, you just don't get the full effect of having the video attached to it . It's okay, I wasn't serious about posting it, I just thought everyone would want to hear some shameful pop from another country. It is, however, quite popular in some countries. I ran across the song by accident when it came up as a suggestion on youtube, and noticed that it was tied to the topic, so I thought I would share it with all before someone beat me to it. Admit it, everyone, you really enjoyed it the first time, right?  ------------- https://ibb.co/8x0xjR0" rel="nofollow"> |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: June 27 2021 at 14:58
| Mike, I refuse to answer that question. Apparently the official video is blocked in the U.S. I do see a screen capture of someone in a gorilla so I am thinking it must add to the experience of the song. 😀 |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: June 27 2021 at 15:43
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First thoughts on up to here, picking up from where I left off and including some additions since my first post. Cristi: Occultation “Forever Hereafter” Heavy, heavy, organ riffs, drums and guitars,
too. I like the guitar lead when it
shows up after the initial dirge-like part, it goes back quickly to that. Intoning-type vocals with a sense of
darkness. Some swirlies come along, then
another heavy guitar riff. Back to the
death-march and intoning. And then to
another heavy guitar lead. Eventually
they get where they were headed, it would seem, as they march down deeper into
the abyss and the torches’ lights fade away. Kees: Arvo Pärt “Spiegel im Spiegel”
Slow, simple piano notes start and the violoncello joins in for a serene
beginning. This is so hauntingly
beautiful to my ear. Melancholy and
almost sentimental without becoming cloying.
There is no rush here, for why rush when all of eternity is at your
disposal? Enchanting. George: Dan
Deacon “Sat By A Tree” Whanging guitars
and steady drumbeats, then some wonky sorts of keys, the vocals are very
effected. The song is fast-paced and
there’s a sense of euphoria in it (despite the eeeeeegy video, lol). There are some very high feminine vocals that
enter the picture about 2/3rds In. A
sense of always moving forward to it, until it finally woogles to a close. Another by Dan Deacon, “When I Was Done Dying” This one starts with more whangly sounds,
sort of stream of consciousness story-telling of a new life after death, in a
bit of a wry tone. There’s a sense of
lightheartedness that runs through this work, not a lot of space left by the near-continuous
lyrics and relentless forward pacing with the marimba-ish sound. Bill Laswell “Above The Earth” Cosmic space sound to start here, with an
Indian mantra intonation, which fades and a feminine voice speaks, going into a
whisper, then tablas emerge. A
repetitive synth sound, I think, and bass emerge and the mantra returns, joined
in a bit by some ooooeeeeeoooos. Certainly
a meditative piece. As scrunched together as Dan Deacon’s pieces were, this is
the exact opposite, lots of spaciousness here.
Finally ends with fades and breaths. Mike: M Ward “Chinese Translation” Sounds like a 60’s-ish country song, or a more modern alt-country song done in that sort of style. Words of wisdom from an elder song about how things truly remain the same for humans, throughout eternity. Sweet video, too. Tungevaag & Raaban "Samsara" This one sounds like a pretty modern pop/club piece, which surprised me. Since I don’t listen to this type of thing at all, I’m probably sounding pretty ignorant, lol. I don’t think I want to have samsara actually be an experience, if it’s going to sound like this. Or maybe that would be a personal visit to Old Nick’s place? A funny aside is that the only perfume I wear is Shalimar, Guerlain also makes a perfume called Samsara. Both are much pleasant than this track, lol. Hiram: Tuomari Nurmio “Ei kukaan” Without a translation, not sure what how he’s related the description you’ve posted in his words. However, this is kind of a rough-edged vocal with wrangly guitars and a skipping sort of beat, maybe a touch of the absurdity of life in the music? Note that I was unable to locate a version with harmonica, although I combed through quite a bit on YT. Vesa-Matti Loiri “Sielun pohjalla” Very different from the last piece, sort of odd plinky piano note, with a lilting female vocal. Then a plucky stringed instrument enters and a deep male voice, with some brushed percussion. There is a sense of theatrics in this to me, as in from a musical, perhaps. The female comes back in after several verses and there is a double-plucked stringed instrument, perhaps a mandolin of sorts, then returns to the male vocalist. ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: June 27 2021 at 18:28
Yes it totally adds to the experience. Gorilla costumes always make a pop song more enjoyable. ------------- https://ibb.co/8x0xjR0" rel="nofollow"> |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: June 27 2021 at 18:33
------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: June 28 2021 at 00:18
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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: June 30 2021 at 16:51
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My nomination is: Donovan - Nirvana Not easy choose one song from "Sutras", the album is wonderful as a whole, not for the value of the individual songs, which are all good, sometimes very good, but without having the highest peaks, it is the amalgam that makes it special. Ps Thanks to Nickie and Nick for their words. ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: Hiram
Date Posted: June 30 2021 at 23:47
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My nomination is Vesa-Matti Loiri - Sielun pohjalla. I would've nominated Tuomari Nurmio, but since the video wasn't available to all, it's easier this way and fine by me.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: July 01 2021 at 00:43
I nominate
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Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: July 01 2021 at 02:29
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Oh my word, time flies! We’ve reached the nomination stage already, and I still haven’t managed to listen to every suggestion, let alone make my own. I’m a failure in my own poll! 🤪 I’ll try and catch up today. Ever since covid, the lingering brain fog has made it a real struggle for me to juggle all the plates without dropping some. I used to be able to keep up with several things at once, but now I have to put all my concentration into one thing at a time, or I simply lose the plot. My brain is in a state of samsara….. 🙄 [EDIT] OK, first submission. It's by no means either my favourite or what I think is the best representation of samsara from the albums I listened to last year, but Karmatrain was the first album last year that made me stop and take notice, and really reflect on how many albums I had already listened to that year which were about samsara. And, to be fair to Outside In, they probably made the most effort to create an album that represented the journey through life/lives of samsara. Karmatrain was deliberately created to match the structure of Hermann Hesse's Siddharta, so the album, like the book is divided into two parts - the first four chapters (or songs) representing the Four Noble Truths, and the remaining eight representing the Noble Eightfold Path. The album takes the listener on a journey, and the careful consideration that has gone into the creation and sequencing of the tracks really pays off. The album flows like the river which provides such meaning within Hesse's story, and is references throughout Karmatrain. I mentioned in my review of Karmatrain that I had listened to the album several times before reading Siddhartha so I had no way of knowing, for example, that Bridges was the end of the first part of the story/album - and yet, I knew. Morning Warning therefore sounds like an opening number, even though it is the fifth track on the album. I almost considered giving that as one of my suggestions, as it is possibly my favourite song on the album, but I decided that Garden of Light maybe represented samsara in its lyrics more, if I were to use just one song (although the lyrics throughout are obviously easily connected to Siddhartha and/or samsara). And https://theprogressiveaspect.net/blog/2020/06/07/outside-in-karmatrain/" rel="nofollow - my review , if anyone is interested. [EDIT] For my second submission, a more recent example - from this year's Find the Others by Shiva the Destructor. This is a really neat take on samsara, as it attempts to portray how samsara can exist regardless of what faith, if any, one follows. It is constructed to take the listener on a journey across time and space, making deliberate comparisons that might otherwise be overlooked. Thus third track, Summer of Love, can be paired with the opening track, Benares. Benares is a city on the Ganges which is a major hub for multiple religions, and Summer of Love refers to the summer of '67, and so compares how people converge in a place that has shared meaning. For many people, San Francisco in that Summer of Love served the same purpose as Benares does every year for those who make pilgrimages there. And it's also, of course, an acknowledgement of the eternal wandering of the homeless soul of the protagonist. The album finally ends with the freedom of thought that there is no need to "care anymore about time and space. It surely is the highest point one can reach, I'll be surfing here on Nirvana beach." This new found purpose (the Finding of the Other) has the protagonist of the album finally abandoning samsara - no longer drifting (wandering) aimlessly, where the river (Benares) and waves (Hydronaut) take them, but making their own path - carving their own waves. Its not my favourite song on the album, but I love how purposeful it is (having found purpose) compared to the rest of the album. It probably doesn't have the same impact presented here by itself, but as the journey's/album's end, it always hits me, and leaves me wanting more. And, again, https://theprogressiveaspect.net/blog/2021/04/14/shiva-the-destructor-find-the-others" rel="nofollow - my review , if anyone is interested. ------------- https://tinyurl.com/nickhnz-tpa" rel="nofollow - Reviewer for The Progressive Aspect |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: July 01 2021 at 07:50
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I was about to remark that we hadn't yet heard your own nominations, Nick, so glad they are here. In the meantime, going to go ahead and elect the Dhafer Youseff piece to be up for the vote. ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: July 01 2021 at 09:50
Nick gets it!  ------------- https://ibb.co/8x0xjR0" rel="nofollow"> |
Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: July 01 2021 at 11:01
To be honest, neither are likely to be what I’d have chosen to put forward if I’d had more time to think about it. They are the result of a rush job, and pretty much the first two to come to mind. I’ll regret both suggestions if I think about them too much, so I’m just going to not think about it! 🤪 And now for my thoughts on the rest of the suggestions. Again, a bit of a rush job, so apologies if I missed any nuances. Pekka Tuomari Nurmio - hints of the blues of John Lennon’s Working Class Hero, mixed with the Finnish folk stylings of Pekka Käppi. I love both Lennon and Käppi, so I guess it comes as no surprise that I love this song. I definitely want to check out more of this work, after hearing this. I don’t often like straight blues too much, but this blend with folk is sublime. I could listen to it forever. Very, very, nice. Even though I don’t understand what is being sung, and even if you hadn’t explained what the song is about, there is such a feeling of samsara that is manifested from the rhythm alone - let alone those fantastic vocals. If this is your nomination, it’s a sure vote from me! I love it! (I can’t say I’m so fond of the version without the harmonica, though. It really loses something, in losing the harmonica!) Vesa-Matti Loiri didn’t grab me so much, nor have such a palpable ans tangible sense of samsara for me - even though, from what you’ve written, it surely does address the subject. I can’t say I’ll be returning to this, in contrast to Tuamori Nurmio. Sorry. Mike Tungevaag & Raaban Hmmmm…..because you ask anyone could resist posting this, I assume it is popular/well-know - but I have definitely never heard it. I can’t decide what I like more, the song or the video. Both are a lot of fun. Kees Arvo Pärt and a piece I’m familiar with, and love. I am a very recent convert to Arvo Pärt, but I really like his music. This performance by Filipe Melo and Ana Cláudia Serrão is absolutely beautiful! Geo Dan Deacon again, but I honestly think this is a far better song (and video) to represent samsara - at least for the purposes of this poll, where just one song has to represent often so much more. Mystic Familiar as an album seems to dip in and out of samsara constantly, and so for sure Sat in a Tree has samsara within it, but When I Was Done Dying just exudes samsara. It is an absolutely awesome song, in itself, but just as awesome as an example of samsara. Bill Laswell, as I already replied, really impressed me. I loved the whole City of Light album. ------------- https://tinyurl.com/nickhnz-tpa" rel="nofollow - Reviewer for The Progressive Aspect |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: July 01 2021 at 17:56
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First thoughts to the end of Page 3 Frenetic Zetetic:
Terry Funk “Forever” Clever
entry….also the shortest, I would think. Nick: Outside
In “In The Garden of Light” Actually,
amazingly, I have seen/heard this, maybe via Kev Rowland? I love the sense of inevitability and lack of
feeling inspired by one’s life in it that they manage to imbue the piece with,
I’d not known of the entire concept, however.
Can’t remember how it came to my attention, but will give the entire
recording full re-attention, as I love the thoughtfulness of the literary
inspiration. I will not be able to vote
for it, with my pre-knowledge, however. Shiva the Destructor “Nirvana Beach” Lots of pretty effected guitars, softly begin
this, with soft, wavery vocals and gentle percussion. There is a certain psych
feel with the organ and the waves of sound with so much texture. I will be interested to hear their “Summer of
Love,” song. I was very young (9), but
also fortunate to visit SF that summer, so witnessed it in full swing. The era certainly informed my musical taste,
I still have a strong penchant for psych.
What many people don’t remember is that the use of drugs wasn’t to get
high, per se, it began as an experiment in opening one’s mind, although that
higher (pun) pursuit was pretty quickly ruined by people who wanted to exploit
the whole thing for personal monetary gain.
It was both a social and philosophical movement that sadly went it’s way,
so much so, that at the end of the summer, a mock funeral was staged, entitled “The
Death of Hippie.” However, many continued
to pursue the paths that were forged by seeking deeper meaning, and, indeed, exploring
other cultures for spiritual enlightenment, such as we are discussing at length
in this poll. ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: Hiram
Date Posted: July 01 2021 at 23:52
Cheers! Very glad to hear you liked the song. Of his albums, I'll recommend "Kuu" (where this song is from), "Lasten mehuhetki" (the most Beefheartian Finnish album ever), "Hullu puutarhuri" and "Luuta ja nahkaa". He has also made http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=8037" rel="nofollow - a collaboration album with Alamaailman Vasarat included here on PA . He's done a couple of albums in English as well, but I don't think they're as good.
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Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: July 02 2021 at 00:22
Thanks! I will check those out. I honestly can’t imagine me liking him anywhere near as much singing in English. There’s something really musical about the Finnish language that I love. ------------- https://tinyurl.com/nickhnz-tpa" rel="nofollow - Reviewer for The Progressive Aspect |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: July 03 2021 at 03:39
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I like both of your submissions, Nick, great music, but they both have something that don't really make them stand out for me: I like the singing on the Outside In track and especially the first two minutes of the track before it turns into a more "normal" rocking track. Musically I prefer the Shiva the Destructor track, really great, but here it is the singing leaves me a bit underwhelmed... But again, they're both good listens! For my nomination I will choose the one which title is already an eternal wandering:A Winged Victory for the Sullen - We Played Some Open Chords and Rejoiced, for the Earth Had Circled the Sun Yet Another Year ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 03 2021 at 13:22
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Sorry for not participating in this thread more, and I aporeciate the comments on my suggestions. I have been very busy. As something of a brevity consideration, I will nominate Alice Coltrane - Journey in Satchidananda. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: July 05 2021 at 04:15
final nominations and poll?! 
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Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: July 05 2021 at 05:17
This is what I have seen. Have I missed anyone’s? Logan - Alice Coltrane - Journey In Satchidananda Lorenzo - Donovan - Nirvana Nicky - Dhafer Youssef - Soupir Eternel Cristi - Alternativ Quartet - Linistea Astupa Goluri Kees - A Winged Victory for the Sullen - We Played Some Open Chords and Rejoiced, for the Earth Had Circled the Sun Yet Another Year Lewian - ? Geo - ? Mike - ? Pekka - Vesa-Matti Loiri - Sielun Pohjalla Me - Shiva the Destructor - Nirvana Beach ------------- https://tinyurl.com/nickhnz-tpa" rel="nofollow - Reviewer for The Progressive Aspect |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: July 05 2021 at 05:23
| I'd start making the poll with the nominations so far and set up a deadline for final nominations. |
Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: July 05 2021 at 10:28
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My nomination is M. Ward - Chinese Translation ------------- https://ibb.co/8x0xjR0" rel="nofollow"> |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: July 05 2021 at 11:53
| I nominate Dan Deacon - When I Was Done Dying. |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: July 05 2021 at 15:01
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Hard hard hard! Do I go for After the Flood which is a top 5 track of all time for me, or the Godfathers because too many people know the Talk Talk track already? Actually the Godfathers had a hit single there so it may be known by as many people, therefore my nomination is Talk Talk - After the Flood. Still grateful for this poll theme to have reminded me of that cool Godfathers single that had been off my radar for 20 years or so.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 05 2021 at 20:29
You have the forever in the poll for your forever and ever theme, but Jace (Frenetic Zetetic): Terry Funk - Forever ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: July 06 2021 at 06:08
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Playlist: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-zzvl_w6Fx7fW4czMziSSshdOd-biNPs" rel="nofollow - https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-zzvl_w6Fx7fW4czMziSSshdOd-biNPs |
Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: July 06 2021 at 06:41
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Thanks! Your playlists are always appreciated! I’m trying to work out if I ignore tracks/artists I know or not, because if I do (as I normally do), it severely limits my choices! 🤪 ------------- https://tinyurl.com/nickhnz-tpa" rel="nofollow - Reviewer for The Progressive Aspect |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: July 06 2021 at 07:46
Thank you George for the playlist!  ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 06 2021 at 10:47
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Yes, thank you George. I listened through the nominations yesterday without the playlist, but that made it easier to revisit and refresh. As usual, paring my choices down to three feels less than satisfactory (of course, that's ultimately a good thing). I had only heard two of the nominations beforehand, other than my own of course, this round. With Donovan in particular I am a big admirer, although mostly for his 60s through early 70s material. I am going with: A Winged Victory for the Sullen - We Played Some Open Chords M. Ward - Chinese Translation Dhafer Youssef - Soupir Eternel (those three I feel also play very satisfyingly together). Cool round, Nick, and thanks for stepping up to take it on such short notice when circumstances prevented the other one from happening. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: July 06 2021 at 11:54
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Thank you for the vote for Dhafer, Logan! ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 06 2021 at 14:42
It was my pleasure, Nickie.  I very much appreciate the music.------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: July 06 2021 at 16:48
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After lots of hemming and hawing, one might even say
endless contemplation, here are my votes.
Number One stayed at Number One all through, I even bought a CD of this,
I liked it so much. Two and Three fought
with one another valiantly and Three and Four were in heavy contention, after I
decided on the Number 2 spot. I am a big
fan of Donovan, I think I ended up going more with the surprise of Talk Talk as
opposed to the more familiar style of Donovan, although I actually loved all
three of those songs of his. Many thanks to Nick for jumping in and covering so quickly for Raff (may she feel inclined to rejoining us soon, very curious as to what she would bring). Thanks as always to George for the playlist, and to everyone who participated. A shoutout to Lorenzo in hopes that he is recovering nicely at this point. 1.
Kees:
His Choice A
Winged Victory for the Sullen “We Played Some Open Chords and Rejoiced, for the
Earth Had Circled the Sun Yet Another Year”If he’d picked this, it would also have made it to the top for me:Arvo Pärt “Spiegel im
Spiegel” 3. Lewian: Talk Talk “After the Flood” Honourable Mention: Lorenzo: Donovan “Nirvana” Also would have contended if you’d picked it: Donovan's “Everlasting Sea” ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: July 07 2021 at 05:10
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my three choices A Winged Victory for the Sullen - We Played Some Open Chords Talk Talk - After the Flood Shiva the destructor - Nirvana Beach
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Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: July 08 2021 at 03:00
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My votes are going to these artists: - Dhafer Youssef - Soupir Eternel - M. Ward - Chinese Translation - Vesa-Matti Loiri - Sielun Pohjalla All three unknown to me and very good. Otherwise, Talk Talk's After the Flood would definitely be in here too. ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: July 08 2021 at 08:09
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Thank you for the Dhafer vote. I can't fault anything he's put out, now that I've had a chance to dig deeply there. ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: Hiram
Date Posted: July 09 2021 at 07:07
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1. Alice Coltrane - Journey In Satchidananda / I used to listen to quite a lot of Alice & John Coltrane, Pharaoh Sanders back in the day but not so much anymore. This took me back to 15-20 years ago when things were better and/or worse. 2. Donovan - Nirvana / I know Donovan of course, but never really listened to him. If the songs posted here are any indicator, I'll need to fix that. 3. M. Ward - Chinese Translation / The above choices were easy, but third position took some consideration. I ended up with this because of its good laid back feel.
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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: July 09 2021 at 14:22
Sutras is full of excellent songs and it is beautiful as a whole. ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: Hiram
Date Posted: July 09 2021 at 23:33
| Thanks! I'll make sure to check out that album and more. |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: July 10 2021 at 18:13
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Dhafer Youssef is the winner here (I really wasn't aware that this was Nicky's nomination once more when I decided that this is great ), then Alternative Quartet (can't go wrong with post rock for me), and A Winged Victory for the Sullen. Alice Coltrane would've been up there but I knew that one. |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: July 10 2021 at 18:35
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Thank you, Christian! These were all pretty compelling to me, as always, so hard to choose my favourites amongst them. I loved going farther into Dhafer Youssef's catalogue, what a fine blending of styles and stellar musicians. Loved the live versions in particular. ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: July 11 2021 at 07:09
I know I love Spirit of Eden as much as you love Laughing Stock. In any case, they are both absolute masterpieces. You may prefer this and I may prefer that. After the flood is my firrst choice for the podium. ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: July 19 2021 at 08:33
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Having announced my votes, I forgot to effectively cast them. That's done now... ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: August 17 2021 at 17:52
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My podium: 1) After the Flood 2) Dhafer 3) Alternativ Quartet ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: August 17 2021 at 17:59
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Thank you, Lorenzo. Happy that you enjoyed Dhafer's music. ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |