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Topic: After a short interludePosted By: Rick1
Subject: After a short interlude
Date Posted: June 14 2021 at 06:37
Many of our heroes took a break during their careers; which band returned in triumph?
(If you don't like my interpretation of 'break' or 'hiatus' please feel free to enter another poll - it's supposed to be a bit of fun)
Replies: Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: June 14 2021 at 06:41
4 of these are not come backs from hiatus
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: June 14 2021 at 06:48
Works For Me!
Posted By: Rick1
Date Posted: June 14 2021 at 06:48
Cristi wrote:
4 of these are not come backs from hiatus
Which ones?
Posted By: Rick1
Date Posted: June 14 2021 at 06:58
ELP - self declared break in 1975
Genesis - self declared break in 1979 (mainly help to Collins)
KC - resurrection of the band by Fripp after 6 years
Magma - inactive 82/83 - other projects
Moody Blues - hiatus due to exhaustion 1973 - reconvened later in decade
Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: June 14 2021 at 06:59
Not sure if I could call it a come back. Maybe in those days people thought it was, but I think it's a tendency we've seen over the years, after a few decades.
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: June 14 2021 at 07:40
Rick1 wrote:
ELP - self declared break in 1975
Genesis - self declared break in 1979 (mainly help to Collins)
KC - resurrection of the band by Fripp after 6 years
Magma - inactive 82/83 - other projects
Moody Blues - hiatus due to exhaustion 1973 - reconvened later in decade
no need to sound so arrogant and aggressive for once...
three bands were not in any "officially declared" hiatus - that's Genesis, Yes and VDGG.
Moody Blues, KC and Magma split up for a while, indeed.
I was wrong about ELP, forgot there were 4 years between BSS and Works, read someplace they toured extensively and were tired & burnt out after the BSS tour.
Posted By: Rick1
Date Posted: June 14 2021 at 07:49
Cristi wrote:
Rick1 wrote:
ELP - self declared break in 1975
Genesis - self declared break in 1979 (mainly help to Collins)
KC - resurrection of the band by Fripp after 6 years
Magma - inactive 82/83 - other projects
Moody Blues - hiatus due to exhaustion 1973 - reconvened later in decade
no need to sound so arrogant and aggressive for once...
three bands were not in any "officially declared" hiatus - that's Genesis, Yes and VDGG.
Moody Blues, KC and Magma split up for a while, indeed.
I was wrong about ELP, forgot there were 4 years between BSS and Works, read someplace they toured extensively and were tired & burnt out after the BSS tour.
Sorry about the terse tone but does it have to be 'official' for it to be a legitimate poll?
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: June 14 2021 at 07:52
Rick1 wrote:
Cristi wrote:
Rick1 wrote:
ELP - self declared break in 1975
Genesis - self declared break in 1979 (mainly help to Collins)
KC - resurrection of the band by Fripp after 6 years
Magma - inactive 82/83 - other projects
Moody Blues - hiatus due to exhaustion 1973 - reconvened later in decade
no need to sound so arrogant and aggressive for once...
three bands were not in any "officially declared" hiatus - that's Genesis, Yes and VDGG.
Moody Blues, KC and Magma split up for a while, indeed.
I was wrong about ELP, forgot there were 4 years between BSS and Works, read someplace they toured extensively and were tired & burnt out after the BSS tour.
Sorry about the terse tone but does it have to be 'official' for it to be a legitimate poll?
Sometimes bands make statements to the press, announce the world (like poor Anathema did last year, such a shame). Sometimes we just hear no news from them...
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: June 14 2021 at 08:41
From what I remember there was no "split" of Yes. In those days, news of such bands came via Melody Maker and I remember reading the headline that Buggles had joined Yes, but I don't remember anything about a split before that, just a sudden (and very surprising) announcement.
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: June 14 2021 at 09:01
None of those acts returned stronger and better than ever after the short interludes in my opinion. I'll give Godbluff a vote because I do think that it's a strong album, but I prefer the three that preceded it. And VdGG was still strong after the short interlude.
Speaking of Magma, since I love Magma. I like Merci, but it is still the weakest of its discography for me. I prefer the related Offering. Magma had a very strong return with KA, and I prefer E-Re to that, after the band's long interlude between studio albums.
Discipline is of course loved by many, but it doesn't really resonate with me. I still recognise it to be strong, and after Godbluff it would be my second choice from my subjective stance.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: June 14 2021 at 09:03
Yes - Drama
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: June 14 2021 at 09:07
Drama and Duke may be better than their direct predecessors, but Godbluff is the only album that qualifies.
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: June 14 2021 at 09:08
I've voted Yes because Drama is a great album but Yes were not "better than ever" (and I doubt that any of these bands were). Drama can hold its head up amongst its predecessors but it is not better than the classics.
Posted By: VianaProghead
Date Posted: June 14 2021 at 09:56
I was a bit divided between King Crimson - Discipline and Yes - Drama. Maybe Drama was most important to Yes then Discipline was to King Crimson, at the time. Besides, Discipline was to be the debut album of a new band with the same name, if it was the decision of Fripp. Anyway, for me, Discipline is a better and most innovative album than Drama. So, this is the reason why I vote on Discipline. Still, I love both albums.
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Posted By: Hiram
Date Posted: June 14 2021 at 10:04
After some thinking I voted KC just over VdGG. They both left on a high note (Red and Pawn Hearts), so these follow-ups were not necessarily better but still among their very best works, respectively. So, KC because of a bolder stylistic jump not expected by many.
Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: June 14 2021 at 10:07
KC
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: June 14 2021 at 10:23
chopper wrote:
From what I remember there was no "split" of Yes. In those days, news of such bands came via Melody Maker and I remember reading the headline that Buggles had joined Yes, but I don't remember anything about a split before that, just a sudden (and very surprising) announcement.
I could be wrong, but I believe the first Yes split was in 1974 when Rick Wakeman left the band during the recording of the Relayer album - when Vangelis auditioned as a replacement - and Rick reunited with Yes for the follow-up Going for the One album in 1977.
Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: June 14 2021 at 11:32
I voted for the leader - KC. A strong comeback with a bold new direction.
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Posted By: Rick1
Date Posted: June 14 2021 at 11:32
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
chopper wrote:
From what I remember there was no "split" of Yes. In those days, news of such bands came via Melody Maker and I remember reading the headline that Buggles had joined Yes, but I don't remember anything about a split before that, just a sudden (and very surprising) announcement.
I could be wrong, but I believe the first Yes split was in 1974 when Rick Wakeman left the band during the recording of the Relayer album - when Vangelis auditioned as a replacement - and Rick reunited with Yes for the follow-up Going for the One album in 1977.
Gets technical - the band slip following the ill fated Paris session at the end of 79 and basically reformed in 1980 having lost and replaced two key members. At the time, I recall it was the end and then the rebirth of Yes. I just remember 74 and then it was Wakeman leaving and being replaced by Moraz. Arguably, there was more of a hiatus after Drama and before 90125 but by then the seal had been broken...
Posted By: omphaloskepsis
Date Posted: June 14 2021 at 13:19
Works I
However, Yes and KC very close
Posted By: JD
Date Posted: June 14 2021 at 13:47
No disrespect to the OP'er but this poll is so full of holes I find it hard to support.
Duke was only two years after ...And Then There Were Three while Discipline was 7 years after Red. However, Thrak came 11 years after Three of a perfect pair.
I know this is just all in fun but...c'mon man.
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Posted By: Earl of Mar
Date Posted: June 14 2021 at 13:54
Went for ELP. Not everyones cup of hemlock but I really like a lot of this album.
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: June 14 2021 at 13:58
JD wrote:
No disrespect to the OP'er but this poll is so full of holes I find it hard to support.
Duke was only two years after ...And Then There Were Three while Discipline was 7 years after Red. However, Thrak came 11 years after Three of a perfect pair.
I know this is just all in fun but...c'mon man.
Time is relative. I take pee breaks longer than seven years.
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: June 14 2021 at 14:21
KC
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: June 14 2021 at 14:26
Dr. Ryan So is so-so. I'd see Dr. Peter Black but my peter is not black, so that leaves Dr. Ryan Paterson to pat my little "son" down.
It's actually good advice.
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Posted By: Rick1
Date Posted: June 14 2021 at 14:43
JD wrote:
No disrespect to the OP'er but this poll is so full of holes I find it hard to support.
Duke was only two years after ...And Then There Were Three while Discipline was 7 years after Red. However, Thrak came 11 years after Three of a perfect pair.
I know this is just all in fun but...c'mon man.
I am interested in the creative process and how it becomes disjointed. Not all bands recover from it or are radically altered.
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: June 14 2021 at 14:48
VDGG > KC
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Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: June 14 2021 at 15:07
Discipline "stronger and better" than Larks''-Red? Don't make me laugh.
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Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: June 14 2021 at 15:22
I like Discipline, but I love Red.
I love Godbluff, but I love Pawn Hearts more.
If this were merely choosing my favourite album from those listed, it would probably be Godbluff.
But if I’m comparing these albums to their predecessors, and voting based on how much stronger and better they are, then it’s probably Drama. I like Tormato, but Drama is a million times stronger and better. Drama has probably the biggest gulf between albums, even if like other albums on the list more than it.
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Posted By: tempest_77
Date Posted: June 14 2021 at 21:17
Easily Godbluff - the greatest VdGG album.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: June 14 2021 at 21:44
tempest_77 wrote:
Easily Godbluff - the greatest VdGG album.
My vote too, although I would give that honour to Pawn Hearts. My favourite is The Least We Can Do....
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Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: June 14 2021 at 22:02
I wanted to vote for KC but truth is I love Duke--but not a comeback just the best album by the 3.
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: June 14 2021 at 23:05
Logan wrote:
tempest_77 wrote:
Easily Godbluff - the greatest VdGG album.
My vote too, although I would give that honour to Pawn Hearts. My favourite is The Least We Can Do....
Godbluff far and away here for me. That sh*t is legitimately next level, especially for 1975. VDGG are a band that constantly reinvented their approach with no compromise.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: June 14 2021 at 23:38
Frenetic Zetetic wrote:
Logan wrote:
tempest_77 wrote:
Easily Godbluff - the greatest VdGG album.
My vote too, although I would give that honour to Pawn Hearts. My favourite is The Least We Can Do....
Godbluff far and away here for me. That sh*t is legitimately next level, especially for 1975. VDGG are a band that constantly reinvented their approach with no compromise.
No argument here on that front.
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Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: June 15 2021 at 02:19
Van Der Graaf Generator - Godbluff
Yes - Drama
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: June 15 2021 at 09:18
Everyone's got a shelf life.
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: June 15 2021 at 11:28
Drama I kind of get but not Duke. There was no line up change or anything like that before right before Duke. ATTWT would have been a better option for this poll imo.
Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: June 15 2021 at 11:53
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
Drama I kind of get but not Duke. There was no line up change or anything like that before right before Duke. ATTWT would have been a better option for this poll imo.
Why does there need to be a line-up change? It’s about coming back after a break - not a break-up. Genesis stated they were taking a break. Duke was their comeback. ATTWT would not have been a better option, and would have made no sense. Then again, as others have already said, there’s already a degree of nonsense to this poll, so I guess it might work….. 😜
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Posted By: Progmind
Date Posted: June 15 2021 at 16:19
VDGG
Posted By: Dark Ness
Date Posted: June 15 2021 at 16:49
tempest_77 wrote:
Easily Godbluff - the greatest VdGG album.
Yeah, for sure same for me.
(but I very much love Pawn Hearts too)
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: June 15 2021 at 17:24
nick_h_nz wrote:
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
Drama I kind of get but not Duke. There was no line up change or anything like that before right before Duke. ATTWT would have been a better option for this poll imo.
Why does there need to be a line-up change? It’s about coming back after a break - not a break-up. Genesis stated they were taking a break. Duke was their comeback. ATTWT would not have been a better option, and would have made no sense. Then again, as others have already said, there’s already a degree of nonsense to this poll, so I guess it might work….. 😜
So why was Duke coming back from a break more than ATTWT? I don't think there was more of a break before Duke than ATTWT. Duke might have been the better album but I don't see it as a comeback. 90125 was a comeback and so was Calling all stations. Also, Deep Purple's perfect strangers was a comeback. A lineup change usually means starting anew that's why ATTWT makes more sense than Duke imo.
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: June 16 2021 at 00:28
genuine answer Godbluff , but anything that beats Discipline is cool with me!
Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: June 16 2021 at 00:56
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
nick_h_nz wrote:
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
Drama I kind of get but not Duke. There was no line up change or anything like that before right before Duke. ATTWT would have been a better option for this poll imo.
Why does there need to be a line-up change? It’s about coming back after a break - not a break-up. Genesis stated they were taking a break. Duke was their comeback. ATTWT would not have been a better option, and would have made no sense. Then again, as others have already said, there’s already a degree of nonsense to this poll, so I guess it might work….. 😜
So why was Duke coming back from a break more than ATTWT? I don't think there was more of a break before Duke than ATTWT. Duke might have been the better album but I don't see it as a comeback. 90125 was a comeback and so was Calling all stations. Also, Deep Purple's perfect strangers was a comeback. A lineup change usually means starting anew that's why ATTWT makes more sense than Duke imo.
Because Genesis stated they were on a break before Duke, but not before ATTWT. Seriously, do you ever read the topics before you post on them? I don’t mean that as an insult, but as a genuine question, because almost everytime I see you comment it is saying something that has already been addressed.
It’s not the time that has elapsed between albums, so much as that the band has said they are taking a break. At least, that was what the OP was hoping to achieve with the poll. As aforementioned, there have been several people who have taken issue with his interpretations. There are many types of comebacks, but this poll is specifically (intended to be) about comebacks after a break. So yes, I fully understand why you consider the albums you mention as comebacks to be worthy of the poll, but that is based upon a misunderstanding of what the poll is about - as described by the OP. I’m not saying you’re wrong, so much as missing the point.
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Posted By: Rick1
Date Posted: June 16 2021 at 02:39
nick_h_nz wrote:
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
nick_h_nz wrote:
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
Drama I kind of get but not Duke. There was no line up change or anything like that before right before Duke. ATTWT would have been a better option for this poll imo.
Why does there need to be a line-up change? It’s about coming back after a break - not a break-up. Genesis stated they were taking a break. Duke was their comeback. ATTWT would not have been a better option, and would have made no sense. Then again, as others have already said, there’s already a degree of nonsense to this poll, so I guess it might work….. 😜
So why was Duke coming back from a break more than ATTWT? I don't think there was more of a break before Duke than ATTWT. Duke might have been the better album but I don't see it as a comeback. 90125 was a comeback and so was Calling all stations. Also, Deep Purple's perfect strangers was a comeback. A lineup change usually means starting anew that's why ATTWT makes more sense than Duke imo.
Because Genesis stated they were on a break before Duke, but not before ATTWT. Seriously, do you ever read the topics before you post on them? I don’t mean that as an insult, but as a genuine question, because almost everytime I see you comment it is saying something that has already been addressed.
It’s not the time that has elapsed between albums, so much as that the band has said they are taking a break. At least, that was what the OP was hoping to achieve with the poll. As aforementioned, there have been several people who have taken issue with his interpretations. There are many types of comebacks, but this poll is specifically (intended to be) about comebacks after a break. So yes, I fully understand why you consider the albums you mention as comebacks to be worthy of the poll, but that is based upon a misunderstanding of what the poll is about - as described by the OP. I’m not saying you’re wrong, so much as missing the point.
At last - thank you, good sir!
Posted By: Olape
Date Posted: June 16 2021 at 08:14
Godbluff > Discipline
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: June 16 2021 at 09:20
nick_h_nz wrote:
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
nick_h_nz wrote:
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
Drama I kind of get but not Duke. There was no line up change or anything like that before right before Duke. ATTWT would have been a better option for this poll imo.
Why does there need to be a line-up change? It’s about coming back after a break - not a break-up. Genesis stated they were taking a break. Duke was their comeback. ATTWT would not have been a better option, and would have made no sense. Then again, as others have already said, there’s already a degree of nonsense to this poll, so I guess it might work….. 😜
So why was Duke coming back from a break more than ATTWT? I don't think there was more of a break before Duke than ATTWT. Duke might have been the better album but I don't see it as a comeback. 90125 was a comeback and so was Calling all stations. Also, Deep Purple's perfect strangers was a comeback. A lineup change usually means starting anew that's why ATTWT makes more sense than Duke imo.
Because Genesis stated they were on a break before Duke, but not before ATTWT. Seriously, do you ever read the topics before you post on them? I don’t mean that as an insult, but as a genuine question, because almost everytime I see you comment it is saying something that has already been addressed.
It’s not the time that has elapsed between albums, so much as that the band has said they are taking a break. At least, that was what the OP was hoping to achieve with the poll. As aforementioned, there have been several people who have taken issue with his interpretations. There are many types of comebacks, but this poll is specifically (intended to be) about comebacks after a break. So yes, I fully understand why you consider the albums you mention as comebacks to be worthy of the poll, but that is based upon a misunderstanding of what the poll is about - as described by the OP. I’m not saying you’re wrong, so much as missing the point.
Well, I don't see a definition of break in the first post. It looks like it was edited anyway.
Yes, I'll pay more attention after you stop presenting your opinions as facts. How about that?
Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: July 19 2022 at 02:22
Van Der Graaf Generator - Godbluff
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: July 19 2022 at 02:25
tough choice between Godbluff and Drama for me.
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: July 19 2022 at 02:51
Rick1 wrote:
Poll Question: Who returned stronger and better than ever?
That would probably be no one for me, but
Rick1 wrote:
Many of our heroes took a break during their careers; which band returned in triumph?
is Van Der Graaf Generator for me.
-I'm
trying to come up with any progressive band or artist I think came back
in such a strong way that I feel they truly surpassed themselves. Dead
Can Dance' wonderful Anastastis from 2012 is certainly much better than than the previous Spiritchaser from
1996 (by far their weakest), so yes I could have voted for them
(although not "better than ever", because that would mean I thought is
was stronger and better than an album like Within The Realms of a Dying Sun).
Swans
and Bowie has both come back with some serious contenders, but none of
them with their first comeback album. Some might say Beefheart's 1978-album Shiny Beast (Bat Chain Puller) - and it's certainly a return to form after 1974's Bluejeans & Moonbeams. But if it has to be their best effort ever, I do prefer a trio of earlier albums by them.
Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: July 19 2022 at 09:26
Reluctant to give it to Puke, but that album is the most crisp recording among the lot.
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Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: July 19 2022 at 14:02