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Topic: Fender or Gibson?
Posted By: Progishness
Subject: Fender or Gibson?
Date Posted: June 07 2021 at 05:43
Which is your favourite make of electric guitar - either for listening to or playing?

Please vote and discuss.


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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: June 07 2021 at 05:46
How about Wasistderpunktenbacker?


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Posted By: Progishness
Date Posted: June 07 2021 at 05:50
Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

How about Wasistderpunktenbacker?


Trust you!


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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: June 07 2021 at 06:19
Originally posted by Progishness Progishness wrote:

Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

How about Wasistderpunktenbacker?


Trust you!

To explain: A guy named Rich Zabriskie was involved in the production overview of "World Record" by Van der Graaf Generator; the credits on the album list him as Rich "What's the point?" Zabriskie (an allusion to the movie "Zabriskie Point"). "Was ist der Punkt?" is German for "What's the point?". Peter Hammill is, among other things, credited as playing "Wasistderpunktenbacker" in the liner notes. Now if we replace "Wasistderpunkt" with "Rich" we get "Richenbacker", which with a slight spell correction becomes "Rickenbacker". So via this complicated wordplay we can assume Peter Hammill plays Rickenbacker guitar on the album.


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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: June 07 2021 at 06:27
Hendrix = Fender.

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Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: June 07 2021 at 06:41
Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

To explain: A guy named Rich Zabriskie was involved in the production overview of "World Record" by Van der Graaf Generator; the credits on the album list him as Rich "What's the point?" Zabriskie (an allusion to the movie "Zabriskie Point"). "Was ist der Punkt?" is German for "What's the point?". Peter Hammill is, among other things, credited as playing "Wasistderpunktenbacker" in the liner notes. Now if we replace "Wasistderpunkt" with "Rich" we get "Richenbacker", which with a slight spell correction becomes "Rickenbacker". So via this complicated wordplay we can assume Peter Hammill plays Rickenbacker guitar on the album.
 
Wow. Maybe you can explain who or what Nohjindijcrackycracky is.
 
 


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Posted By: Hiram
Date Posted: June 07 2021 at 07:02
For listening whatever sounds good in the hands of the given player. 

For playing a Fender Telecaster. And it doesn't even have to be a proper Fender, Squier is as good. 


Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: June 07 2021 at 07:34
I simply don't have any idea what guitar sounds the best, but Gibson Les Paul is the best for my viewing pleasure. So elegant and classy.



Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: June 07 2021 at 09:09
Based on what the big six prog bands play. And that is what matters, aye? Wink

Bob Fripp - Gibson
Steve Hackett - Gibson
Martin Barre - Gibson
Greg Lake - Gibson
Steve Howe - Gibson
David Gilmour - Fender

But for listening and playing I prefer Fender.



Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: June 07 2021 at 09:25
Originally posted by I prophesy disaster I prophesy disaster wrote:

Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

To explain: A guy named Rich Zabriskie was involved in the production overview of "World Record" by Van der Graaf Generator; the credits on the album list him as Rich "What's the point?" Zabriskie (an allusion to the movie "Zabriskie Point"). "Was ist der Punkt?" is German for "What's the point?". Peter Hammill is, among other things, credited as playing "Wasistderpunktenbacker" in the liner notes. Now if we replace "Wasistderpunkt" with "Rich" we get "Richenbacker", which with a slight spell correction becomes "Rickenbacker". So via this complicated wordplay we can assume Peter Hammill plays Rickenbacker guitar on the album.
 
Wow. Maybe you can explain who or what Nohjindijcrackycracky is.
 


Nohjindijcrackycracky was a roadie of VdGG; I have forgotten what his real name was.


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Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: June 07 2021 at 09:32
Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Originally posted by I prophesy disaster I prophesy disaster wrote:

Maybe you can explain who or what Nohjindijcrackycracky is.

Nohjindijcrackycracky was a roadie of VdGG; I have forgotten was his real name was.
 
Thanks. Smile
 
 


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Posted By: Progishness
Date Posted: June 07 2021 at 09:36
Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Originally posted by Progishness Progishness wrote:

Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

How about Wasistderpunktenbacker?


Trust you!

To explain: A guy named Rich Zabriskie was involved in the production overview of "World Record" by Van der Graaf Generator; the credits on the album list him as Rich "What's the point?" Zabriskie (an allusion to the movie "Zabriskie Point"). "Was ist der Punkt?" is German for "What's the point?". Peter Hammill is, among other things, credited as playing "Wasistderpunktenbacker" in the liner notes. Now if we replace "Wasistderpunkt" with "Rich" we get "Richenbacker", which with a slight spell correction becomes "Rickenbacker". So via this complicated wordplay we can assume Peter Hammill plays Rickenbacker guitar on the album.


I honestly think we inhabit quite separate prog planets!


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Posted By: Progishness
Date Posted: June 07 2021 at 09:39
Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Based on what the big six prog bands play. And that is what matters, aye? Wink



Not nesser-celery - had I meant this to be a prog specific discussion I'd have shoved it in Prog Polls instead of in here!


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Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: June 07 2021 at 11:30
Fender. I'm not a huge fan of Gibson's shapes plus they're quite pricy, or dare I say, overpriced.

Also, in terms of quality, Fender guitars, even the Mexican line.... heck even the friggin import guitars like Squiers.... are just impossible to top. :)

And with Epiphone, it's a lottery.

BTW, Rickenbackers are indeed associated with prog but from what I've heard they're even more overpriced than Gibsons. And in Poland, they're SUPER RARE.

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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: June 07 2021 at 11:38
Martin. For Electrics, Fender.

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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: June 07 2021 at 12:20
Late husband definitely preferred this beauty above all of his guitars, one owner, him.  

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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: June 07 2021 at 17:25
Fender 

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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: June 07 2021 at 17:49
Hi,

Not sure ... but I miss my EB-0 (the original) with the pegs going backwards instead of sideways ... for some reason it had a stronger sound than the other versions that sound bad and cheap. I do miss, NOW, my Fender Jazz Bass ... since anything I have gotten has not been good enough on my hands, and the Gibby's bass versions turned into cheap crap and over priced stuff that can only come close to the original quality and sound when a mountain of electronics are added.

I can't speak about lead guitars ... to me they all sound great and good, and I don't know enough about them to tell you which one I like more. But in a variety of hands, mannnnnn do they sound great!


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Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: June 07 2021 at 19:12
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Hendrix = Fender.
???

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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: June 08 2021 at 04:49
I don’t really care as long as the guitarist can play. Either way you can make any electric guitar sound like a Fender or Gibson. Cue pick-ups and perhaps a bit of wah.
I love how most musicians I know wouldn’t be able to hear a difference in a blindtest, providing we’re talking the same pick-ups and whatnot.....yet keep on buying the pricey stuff.
I figure it’s a penis thing

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Posted By: Progishness
Date Posted: June 08 2021 at 04:52
^ It's all in the fingering.


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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: June 08 2021 at 05:56
Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

I don’t really care as long as the guitarist can play. Either way you can make any electric guitar sound like a Fender or Gibson. Cue pick-ups and perhaps a bit of wah.
I love how most musicians I know wouldn’t be able to hear a difference in a blindtest, providing we’re talking the same pick-ups and whatnot.....yet keep on buying the pricey stuff.
I figure it’s a penis thing
If the amp is blasting, you won't hear a difference, but with a clean tone there is a huge difference between Fender and Gibson. For example the first lick of the solo of "Comfortably Numb" is unmistakable Fender. You can't get that sound with a Gibson.


Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: June 08 2021 at 06:24
Sure there is a huge difference in the clean tone...but most of it stems from the pickups. Change out the pickups of the two and get someone to play them for you from behind a curtain. See if you can spot the pidgeon

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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: June 08 2021 at 07:06
Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

Sure there is a huge difference in the clean tone...but most of it stems from the pickups. Change out the pickups of the two and get someone to play them for you from behind a curtain. See if you can spot the pidgeon
If you change the pickups then it's a Frankenstein guitar, neither Fender or Gibson. Wink


Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: June 08 2021 at 07:27
Yep
If we’re going strictly by how cool it looks in the hand of x artist..then my fave Fender is the Telecaster. Fave Gibson? The Firebird
As for what sound I prefer it entirely depends on the music. I like the way my buddy solved this by purchasing a “guitar-combo” (a Schecter I believe) that has both tones available in a quick-switch solution. Instead of carrying around a Strat and a Les Paul, he’s got the two-in-one...and it’s light. Looks pretty awesome to boot.

Edith: Now I remember. He’s got the Schecter Ultra lll:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OPi8e4DFqsI

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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: June 08 2021 at 10:28
Both are great guitars and they sound good in the hands of any good player...with a decent amp.
Personally I would rather own a  Gibson Les Paul Jr ,Gibson SG, or 1959 Les Paul Cherry or sunburst for pure fun...but I also like old Fender Strats like the one Snic showed. Telecasters are fine but the sound can be a bit too trebly for me.

Just for conversation...my friend Bill used to own a '51 blonde Nocaster (when Telecaster name was not used due to a legal problem)...he had to sell it for money.  Unhappy


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Posted By: Cylli Kat (0fficial)
Date Posted: September 30 2021 at 22:13
One of the only benefits of going through the entirety of the Covid 19 nightmare was that my Uncle Sam bought me these two beauties:

I've owned and played both Gibson (Les Paul, Explorer) and Fender (Stratocaster) guitars.
They each have their pluses and minuses and their respective sounds and uses.
But, for my budget, and due to the fact that I use 7 string guitars most of the time,
I've been a solid Ibanez guy for quite a long span.
However, if the guitar feels and sounds right, I don't particularly care what brand name is affixed to it.



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Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: September 30 2021 at 23:01
Quote Telecasters are fine but the sound can be a bit too trebly for me.
Telecasters are insane. If one sounds too trebly to you, you just get your pickup replaced and voila! :)

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