Freddy Krueger vs. Pinhead
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Topic: Freddy Krueger vs. Pinhead
Posted By: Shadowyzard
Subject: Freddy Krueger vs. Pinhead
Date Posted: May 25 2021 at 02:26
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The "vs." here can mean anything you like. You can make them fight each other. You can compare and contrast their charismas. Or if you're a sissy, You can wait for Santa Claus till Christmas.  
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: May 25 2021 at 03:13
I preferred Freddie Krueger (Robert England) when he was in "V" - a science fiction series about a genocidal invading alien race known as the "Visitors", who were reptiles disguised as human beings. I believe it's one of arch-conspiracy-theorist David Icke's favourite shows. 
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: May 25 2021 at 03:15
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Both are well developed interdimentional demons whom can bring pain but with widely different motives. While Freddy is a tru antagonist in the Elm Street series, Pinhead is more of a chaotic nuetral, neither good nor evil an enigmatic character whose side is more motivated by other forces than good vs evil, its rather the urge to offer pleasure vs pain. -------------  
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Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: May 25 2021 at 03:21
This is a great take, I'll give you that. But I think the cenobite Pinhead's alignment is neutral evil, as far as the D&D terminology goes. Neutral evil characters are really intriguing. Lawful evils are cunning but not that bold, chaotic evils are generally rather blatant and uninteresting... But if they (chaotic evils) want to reach "high levels", it is imperative that they have to be really powerful and/or have some really powerful allies.. They always reveal that they are "evil" and thus, they are the targets of "good" characters. Yet, this is just a D&D based take. Otherwise, I can agree that his alignment is chaotic neutral. |
Icarium wrote:Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: May 25 2021 at 03:58
Englund dude, Englund. Not England... Ah you, the English... You always think that everything is English and everywhere is England. 
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: May 25 2021 at 04:05
Not only that, but I spelt Freddie Krueger incorrectly too.
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Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: May 25 2021 at 04:10
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^ It is a mess... For all of us (I think)... Rachmaninoff, Rahmaninov; Patrik, Patrick... I admire people who are not confused in such things...
We have a Turkish name Bünyamin. I think its foreign variant is Benjamin... I have fun while trying to make sense of such things... Even some confusions like this are amusing for me. |
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: May 25 2021 at 06:09
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The Leviathan is the true evil forice in Hellraiser -universe, i wonder if ever Stephen King and Clive Barker ever have plotted that they float in a shared universe, as Pennywise and Leviathan are sort of similar enteties. -------------
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Posted By: Hiram
Date Posted: May 25 2021 at 06:41
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Voted both. I think first films of both were excellent, sequels much less so.
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Posted By: Gentle and Giant
Date Posted: May 25 2021 at 08:36
Pinhead. I could admit to owning all 3 series of the Hellraiser Neca action figures and Dr Channard and the Cenobites Lair boxset, but that would make me a Hellraiser geek - so I won't  ------------- Oh, for the wings of any bird, other than a battery hen |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: May 25 2021 at 11:12
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Pinhead, original Hellraiser movie is excellent..... -------------   
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: May 25 2021 at 11:19
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Interestingly, just yesterday I listened to the Hellraiser soundtrack. Pinhead for sure. The original Hellraiser is superb, and unlike many I also love the sequel (I'm that way with the Omen as well, unlike a great many) ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: May 25 2021 at 11:27
 I actually like the second Omen movie even better. Perhaps because it was my "first Omen".
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Posted By: A Crimson Mellotron
Date Posted: May 25 2021 at 11:28
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Pinhead looks scarier. |
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: May 25 2021 at 11:37
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Would you enter a acupunctur therapy session run by 'Pinhead' where Pinhead is the acupunktur therapist. Ironicly the creator of Pinhead Clive Barker is not to happy about the name Pinhead, he very reluctantly refers to it. But does not really cherish the fan/tv-magazibes coinage of this horror villain. -------------
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Posted By: Hiram
Date Posted: May 25 2021 at 11:53
| It's a pity the didn't use Coil's soundtrack in Hellraiser. Apparently cenobites' look was partly inspired by "men's magazines" Clive Barker saw while staying at Balance & Sleazy's house. |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: May 25 2021 at 20:58
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Freddy ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: August 18 2021 at 08:36
Guess who I'm supporting from my avatar and signature. 
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Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: October 23 2021 at 03:57
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This brand new Cradle of Filth song is featuring Doug Bradley, aka Pinhead. As far as I remember, it's been a long time since they last collaborated. |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 23 2021 at 04:06
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I can't vote because I don't like either of them. They're both evil.
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Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: October 23 2021 at 04:13
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^ And "your" Christopher Lee was always angelic in his acting?
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 23 2021 at 04:23
I'd rather listen to Christopher Lee singing Heavy Metal than playing the part of Dracula.  Christopher Lee Sheds the Blood of Saxon Men with his backing band Rhapsody of Fire. |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: October 23 2021 at 04:25
| ^ The Dracula movies with Christopher Lee are great, sad to see such a remark... |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 23 2021 at 04:44
Yes they are. I wasn't saying I don't like Christopher Lee as Dracula. Far from it. I just think his revival in his nineties as a Heavy Metal singer is wonderful.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: October 23 2021 at 04:57
You said you'd rather see and listen to him doing his heavy metal shtick rather than watch him in one of his iconic roles. And that makes no sense to me.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: October 23 2021 at 05:06
| both I guess, can't really choose |