Remember: he played not only on his own solo albums and with Brand X, but on many other albums (many of which he also produced), like:  

Flaming Youth

Peter Banks

Brian Eno (4 albums)

Rod Argent

John Cale

Steve Hackett's Voyage of the Acolyte

Tommy Bolin

Marscape and Peter and the Wolf

Tobin & Ero

Elliott Murphy

Café Jacques

David Hentschel

Robert Fripp

Peter Gabriel

Robert Plant

Gary Brooker

Frida

Eric Clapton

John Martyn

Phillip Bailey

Howard Jones

Stephen Bishop

Al Di Meola

Lamont Dozier

I'm excited to hear your endorsements!

yes so much original drumming on Lamb--Back in NY--Fly on a windshield --hard to pick as he is so versatile and seamlessly good and not a big showoff--of course IN the air tonight is what he is famous for--

This song has a great drum part but I'm admittedly unsure if it's Collins alone or if he's backed up by Morris Pert on a different drum kit.

Unquiet Slumbers for the sleepers

Supper's Ready (especially apocalypse in 7/8)

The Musical Box

Dancing with the moonlit knight

Down and Out

Honestly there are a lot but those are just some off the top of my head.

And of course the first use of the gated drum sound (and no use of cymbals whatsoever) on Peter Gabriel's "No Self Control"....

"Man of our Times" and the "Duke's Travels/Duke's End" suite.

Also, I agree that his playing is more about subtlety and playing within the music, not above or separate from it.

As I was listening to some of his repertoire today, I found myself really impressed with the work on "Eleventh Earl of Mar." 

Also, I just really get into his smooth work on John Martyn's 1981 release (that Phil produced), Glorious Fool. 

Actually, you are incorrect. Gated Reverb was discovered during the PG3 session....

http://producelikeapro.com/blog/how-one-recording-mistake-created-a-musical-phenomenon-in-the-80s/" rel="nofollow - http://producelikeapro.com/blog/how-one-recording-mistake-created-a-musical-phenomenon-in-the-80s/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gated_reverb" rel="nofollow - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gated_reverb

PG 3 was not the very first use of gated reverb but if you want to think that you can. Just don't forget to tell Prarie Prince of the Tubes(from the first album from 1975). Starting at the 43 second mark on the track "mondo bondage." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nibDtxm4u4g" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nibDtxm4u4g If that's not gated reverb then nothing is. True, it only lasts for maybe 10-12 seconds but it's still one of the first uses of gated reverb.  I'm not sure why wikipedia and some of the other websites decided to ignore this not to mention David Bowie(on low) from 1977 and Allan Holdsworth's velvet darkness (76). PG/PC certainly popularized it though. There's no doubt about that. Listen to those examples(all are on youtube) before you keep arguing with me about it though. 

https://www.facebook.com/Pugadista/posts/gated-reverbgated-reverb-is-an-audio-processing-technique-that-is-applied-to-rec/138989626245322/" rel="nofollow - https://www.facebook.com/Pugadista/posts/gated-reverbgated-reverb-is-an-audio-processing-technique-that-is-applied-to-rec/138989626245322/

To quote yourself “if you want to think that you can”. I don’t know the other albums you cite, but I suspect you are just hearing/recognising effects that sound similar to gated reverb. It’s pretty much understood and agreed that gated reverb was something that came out of experimentation during the recording of a Peter Gabriel album.

That you use Bowie’s Low as an example of gated reverb is evidence that you are only hearing something that sounds like gated reverb, and assuming it to be that. There was no gated reverb on Low, so what you are hearing is probably the Eventide H910 Harmonizer. Tony Visconti has gone over the making of this album enough times, and I’ve not heard him speak of gated reverb once. But that snappy snare sound you hear is definitely the Eventide. And Visconti should know, because as Bowie himself stressed: “The actual sound and texture, the feel of everything from the drums to the way that my voice is recorded, is Tony Visconti”.

No, I don't think so. I was finally about to get those links highlighted so go to that fb page and listen to those songs. The artists maybe didn't know what they were doing at the time and maybe didn't set out to do gated reverb(apparently neither did PG)but that's what they are. If I accidentally discovered a continent(or a planet) I still discovered it. 

Here's the link again.  https://www.facebook.com/Pugadista/posts/gated-reverbgated-reverb-is-an-audio-processing-technique-that-is-applied-to-rec/138989626245322/" rel="nofollow - https://www.facebook.com/Pugadista/posts/gated-reverbgated-reverb-is-an-audio-processing-technique-that-is-applied-to-rec/138989626245322/  

Anyway, I've read read these things before so it's not like I'm making it up myself.  Anyway, maybe the Bowie wasn't. Now all you have to do is prove the Tubes and Holdsworth wasn't. ;) Do a search for the Tubes Mondo Bondage gated reverb and see what happens.

That link has nothing to back up its claims. Find me something to back them up, and I might believe you, but in the meantime if that’s your “evidence”, it’s laughable. It also contradicts itself, because the technique it describes is not used by at least one of the example it quotes. Again, you can go to the horse’s mouth and hear or read Tony Visconti go into detail about how every sound and effect on Low was made. There is no gated reverb on that album. Not by the definition most people would understand the term, and not even by the definition that this Facebook post gives. So, again, “if you want to think that you can”.

I revised my post just before you posted this. Right. I'll think what I want and you think what you want. We can agree to disagree. 

Just let me know when you listen to that Tubes song. From the article: "Perhaps the earliest known use of the gated snare drum technique was on the recording Mondo Bondage (first verse only) from the 1975 self-titled debut album of the San Francisco rock band The Tubes. The drums were played by Prairie Prince. Recording produced by Al Kooper and engineered by Lee Rhett Keifer."

There is no indication that gated reverb was used by the Tubes or Bowie (except for that one guy on Facebook you mentioned who has no recording engineer info to back it up). Quite simply, Hugh Padgham was using a brand new recording console (unavailable to either Bowie or the Tubes at the time of their sessions 4-5 years previously) that featured a mic in studio that allowed for conversation with the recording booth. Phil's drums got picked up on the mic (a mic with a very specific heavy compressor).... and the rest is history:

John Bonham and recording engineer Andy Johns invented gated reverb on "When the Levee Breaks". All he needed was setting up his drums at the bottom of a staircase at the Headley Grange estate, two Beyerdynamic M160 microphones and several cases of beer. 

I thought we had already agreed to disagree, so I have no need to listen. I might well hear something that sounds like gated reverb - but that doesn’t mean it is gated reverb. I think that is the problem - as I’ve already stated in a previous comment. Because you can hear something that sounds similar, you are confusing it for the same thing.

You didn't listen to the song. That says it all right there. If you can say after listening it definitely isn't that's one thing but you didn't even listen to it. But yeah, maybe it isn't. I can admit I might be wrong. 

I believe that was a joke at AFLowerKingCrimson’s expense, rather than a serious suggestion. 😃

What about "in the flesh?" by Pink Floyd. That's some pretty miked up drums maybe. Lol.

It’s because I’m not “a real prog fan”. 😜

None of us here have the final answer. We can only go by what we read and I admit I'm just going by what I've read but in the case of "mondo bondage" it definitely sounds like gated reverb to me regardless of whether it actually is or not. Here's the link. Now you have no excuse. If you still won't listen then you are either the laziest or most stubborn person on the planet.  It starts at :43 and goes until :53 or so.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nibDtxm4u4g" rel="nofollow -

No joke from me. I understand gated reverb as an effect where the reverb is sort of "gated out" after a few seconds, meaning that when you hit a drum, then the reverb will continue only until that and then fade out.

When the Levee Breaks really doesn't sound like that to me. What I hear is an echo of every drum beat coming approximately a 1/8 note later. There is clearly reverb too, but it doesn't sound to me like it is gated out at any point.

I have listened and I can safely say I'm not sure. It could be just echo/delay.

It wouldn't fade out with a gate, it would just stop.

Pretty sure Levee isn't gated, as someone else said it's just massive reverb from being at the bottom of a stairwell.

I guess 17 lol emojis was not enough to indicate I was being facetious. Next time, I will add more.

Correct.

"Gated reverb or gated ambience is an  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audio_signal_processing" rel="nofollow - audio processing  technique that combines strong  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverberation" rel="nofollow - reverb  and a  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noise_gate" rel="nofollow - noise gate . The effect is often associated with the sound of 1980s popular music. It was developed in 1979 by engineer  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_Padgham" rel="nofollow - Hugh Padgham  and producer  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Lillywhite" rel="nofollow - Steve Lillywhite  while working with the artists  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XTC" rel="nofollow - XTC ,  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Gabriel" rel="nofollow - Peter Gabriel , and  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Collins" rel="nofollow - Phil Collins  at  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Townhouse_Studios" rel="nofollow - Townhouse Studios  in London, and is most famously demonstrated in Collins's 1981 single " https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_the_Air_Tonight" rel="nofollow - In the Air Tonight ".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gated_reverb" rel="nofollow - Gated reverb - Wikipedia

Maybe Dance on a Volcano or anything off of Brand X Unorthodox Behavior. 

I must say, I disagree with the statement that Peter Gabriel & Co. didn't know they were doing it--I remember the articles from the time of release of "3" discussing it to death--how much the drum sounds were being experimented with. And they did it for a whole album--which makes listeners take notice much more than 10-15 seconds of playful sound experimentation.

I'd like to hear Al Kooper and Lee Rhett Keifer's exposition about the recording sessions of that first Tubes album because I notice you gave up on your argument pushing Bowie's Low as another prior exposition of gated drums use after hearing about all of the Visconti interviews.

It's not about the listening when claiming the invention here, it's about the intentional use, reuse, repeat use, and reliance on that particular sound effect. I'm sure many humans stumbled upon uses of the wheel before they realized they had something that could/should be put into full and regular use, right?

I gave up on that argument because someone pointed out that it was an eventide on low and not gated reverb. There was definitely reverb used in drums before PG 3 but it probably wasn't gated reverb. That's maybe why the wikipedia article changed to reflect that. I'm not saying for sure but based on what others pointed out PG 3 may have been the first use of gated reverb after all.  Gated reverb apparently doesn't have the echo effect that was used on the Tubes song. Drums can be punchy and have a certain kind of sound without having gated reverb or maybe even reverb. Tell me what you think the drum sound is on the opening track to Pink Floyd's "the wall" album. It's not reverb necessarily but it's very punchy sounding and beyond a normal drum sound imo. 

Anyway, I thought we moved on from this. 

Yes, the percussion was a particular point Gabriel concentrated on. Here's part of a review for Melt I did several years ago....

True, and he was never over the top or flashy and so he was similar to BB that way but more technical and virtuosic (if that can be applied to a drummer) than say Alan White or Nick Mason. 

anyway like any of us really care , anyway back to Phil Collins

Undertow Down and Out 

Dancing With The Moonlit Knight

The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway

Dukes Travels

Man Of Our Times

Keep It Dark

Ace Of Wands

No Self Control

In The Air Tonight

Easy Lover (yes really!)

Good luck with selling that one on here. This is a tough crowd. 

+1

I've just read his biography, which is refreshingly honest. He openly admits what a total c*ck he's been for large parts of his life. What I hadn't realised was that he battled with alcoholism for a long period after he moved to Switzerland which nearly cost him his life! 

Actually I thought it was Down and Out and I don't think it was the time signature (it's in 5/4 for most of the song I think). I think it might be the short, quick drum rolls that are inserted at the end of almost every bar during the verses. It's not easy to hear all that's going on in the song because a lot of the drum parts are drowned out by the keys and bass. A lot of bands that cover this song have difficulties getting the drum parts right. I believe Rutherford in his autobiography briefly mentions Chester having some difficulty with this song when they were rehearsing, but he doesn't specifically say what the issue was (Rutherford not being a drummer and all).

Take that with a grain of salt. I'm not a drummer.

Yes of course it's Down and Out. For some strange reason I got that mixed up with Undertow and then Rick ran with it. 

Sorry, yes first track Down and Out.

This.