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Topic: Poll: From a concert of which artist is this clip?
Posted By: BaldFriede
Subject: Poll: From a concert of which artist is this clip?
Date Posted: May 11 2021 at 05:06
This clip is from a 70s concert. You see hundreds of guys headbanging, women hysterically screaming and even fainting. But who played at that concert? Take a guess.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cg5rQ7uPukLl_nUioIbiu-ZDZrc5BfJp/view?usp=sharing" rel="nofollow - https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cg5rQ7uPukLl_nUioIbiu-ZDZrc5BfJp/view?usp=sharing

I offer one possibility for each letter of the alphabet. Since 25 is the maximum number of choices in polls here I left out the "X". For obvious reasons I had to remove the sound.

Take a guess. Who is the artist that caused these extreme reactions?




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Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: May 11 2021 at 05:32
Van der Graaf Generator?


Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: May 11 2021 at 05:46
Looks like a few different concerts to me. An 80's Michael Jackson show, and some generic heavy metal show from maybe a few years earlier.

Beyond that I've no idea. Only Led Zep would have evoked that kind of reaction from the choices in the poll, in my opinion, but it looks far too late to be Zep.

Maybe Sabbath...at a push.



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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: May 11 2021 at 05:59
The footage is from one concert only.

The guy who posted it says this in the description: "This is the only remaining footage from this concert. All (other) footage has been lost. Men were reported to act like animals and the women were reported to pass out".


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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: May 11 2021 at 06:04
Intriguing Is it definitely from the 70's? The security guys are wearing Michael Jackson shirts (I think) and I don't think he toured as a solo artist until the early 80's.

Give us a cryptic clue..

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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: May 11 2021 at 06:10
Michael Jackson started his solo career in 1971.


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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: May 11 2021 at 06:13
video does not load properly for me, now I'm really curious what it is LOL


Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: May 11 2021 at 06:15
Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Michael Jackson started his solo career in 1971.


True..

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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: May 11 2021 at 06:26
Only Mike Oldfield could get a crowd going like that.
Wink


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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: May 11 2021 at 06:45
Barbara Dennerlein?


Posted By: wiz_d_kidd
Date Posted: May 11 2021 at 06:57
I agree with Blacksword... It looks like different concerts  - three in fact. The venues look different. The crowds look different. The time of day looks different. The middle one is obviously a Michael Jackson concert -- given the screaming women and security in MJ tee shirts.


Posted By: Tancos
Date Posted: May 11 2021 at 07:03
The Julliard String Quartet, probably during an all-Bartok set.


Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: May 11 2021 at 07:30
Originally posted by wiz_d_kidd wiz_d_kidd wrote:

I agree with Blacksword... It looks like different concerts  - three in fact. The venues look different. The crowds look different. The time of day looks different. The middle one is obviously a Michael Jackson concert -- given the screaming women and security in MJ tee shirts.

Clearly it's not all the same concert, one is indoors and one is outdoors for a start. There is a Michael Jackson gig as you can see his name on the security shirts and clearly see a girl mouthing "Michael" and there's no way those blokes having a massive bundle are at an MJ concert.


Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: May 11 2021 at 07:41
I'm guessing it's a trick question... You can actually tell from the clothes that people are wearing, among other things that it's not footage from the 70's.

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Posted By: yogev
Date Posted: May 11 2021 at 08:16
I actully know the last footage from YouTube. And it does not look like a prog band and certainly not from the 70s


It looks like wierd metal band from the 90s/2000s. and wow this is bruuutal.

 


Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: May 11 2021 at 08:30
He's frightfully rude isn't he..

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Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: May 11 2021 at 08:34
This is definitely edited from three different sources: As yogev points out, the last part is from a death metal concert at the Wacken festival 2008 (and shows that some rock fans have as many neurons as some football hooligans - between 5 and 10, I guess). The Michael Jackson part is located and dated https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAKDNr022UU" rel="nofollow - here in Bucharest 1992...
Now, who identifies the first part?

Edit: OK, found it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwlZ7txRJwI" rel="nofollow - here ... 2017!


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Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: May 11 2021 at 08:41
Looks like some of our members are considerably more resourceful and incredulous than the OP anticipated?Shocked


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Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: May 11 2021 at 08:42
So I voted Renaissance... Ermm


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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: May 11 2021 at 08:56
Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

This is definitely edited from three different sources: As yogev points out, the last part is from a death metal concert at the Wacken festival 2008 (and shows that some rock fans have as many neurons as some football hooligans - between 5 and 10, I guess). The Michael Jackson part is located and dated https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAKDNr022UU" rel="nofollow - here in Bucharest 1992...
Now, who identifies the first part?

Edit: OK, found it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwlZ7txRJwI" rel="nofollow - here ... 2017!

Wow, good work. So the bit about it being all the same concert from the 70s is not entirely true then. 


Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: May 11 2021 at 08:58
Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

The footage is from one concert only.

The guy who posted it says this in the description: "This is the only remaining footage from this concert. All (other) footage has been lost. Men were reported to act like animals and the women were reported to pass out".

Methinks the guy who posted it was having you on.


Posted By: JD
Date Posted: May 11 2021 at 10:21
It doesn't look 70's to me.
Just looking at the concert infrastructure it looks more modern than that. (Sorry I'm a bit of a geek that way).
In fact it looks like it may be from more than one concert. Variations in fashion that the concert goers are wearing, and I certainly don't recall too many mosh pits in the 70's. It was an 80's thing.

But if I had to pick one from your list I might go with Led Zeppelin.


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Posted By: Intruder
Date Posted: May 11 2021 at 10:45
The scene looks how Magma sounds.

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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: May 11 2021 at 11:00
Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

It doesn't look 70's to me.
Just looking at the concert infrastructure it looks more modern than that. (Sorry I'm a bit of a geek that way).
In fact it looks like it may be from more than one concert. Variations in fashion that the concert goers are wearing, and I certainly don't recall too many mosh pits in the 70's. It was an 80's thing.

But if I had to pick one from your list I might go with Led Zeppelin.

suitkees has already established that it's actually 3 different videos - see his post on the previous page.


Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: May 11 2021 at 16:14
Obviously it's Hawkwind when Michael Jackson was lead singer. Another group where you see this kind of behavior is Bread.

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Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: May 11 2021 at 16:40
All I can say is, I'm so glad I was not at that gig. I prefer more relaxed conditions where people are actually listening to music.


Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: May 11 2021 at 20:18
Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

This clip is from a 70s concert. You see hundreds of guys headbanging, women hysterically screaming and even fainting. But who played at that concert? Take a guess.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cg5rQ7uPukLl_nUioIbiu-ZDZrc5BfJp/view?usp=sharing" rel="nofollow - https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cg5rQ7uPukLl_nUioIbiu-ZDZrc5BfJp/view?usp=sharing

I offer one possibility for each letter of the alphabet. Since 25 is the maximum number of choices in polls here I left out the "X". For obvious reasons I had to remove the sound.

Take a guess. Who is the artist that caused these extreme reactions?



I give up, who is it?


Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: May 11 2021 at 20:32
Definitely more than one clip. It goes from an outside shot, to inside a darkened arena, to outside in overcast afternoon again. The final part of the clip is not from the 70s at all.

The middle section is definitely a Michael Jackson concert. The end section clearly has t-shirts from another era than the 70s.


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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: May 12 2021 at 01:08
Like I said, it must be a 'trick' question. BaldFriede is a witty and intelligent member/s of this forum and wouldn't make a mistake, so I expect the answer to be depressingly clever, and probably obvious..

Well, I give in...WHAT IS THE ANSWER??

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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: May 13 2021 at 01:03
Bump!

Any follow up on this?

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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: May 13 2021 at 01:26
Ignoring any and all evidence to the contrary, obviously it is Magma. The audiences are reacting to this:



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Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: May 13 2021 at 01:27
Maybe it’s a joke that fell flat, and BaldFriede doesn’t want to own it? It does seem strange that she hasn’t returned to the post. 🤔



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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: May 13 2021 at 01:39
Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

Maybe it’s a joke that fell flat, and BaldFriede doesn’t want to own it? It does seem strange that she hasn’t returned to the post. 🤔

Hmm, you could be right, she was logged in 2 minutes ago.


Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: May 13 2021 at 01:48
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

This is definitely edited from three different sources: As yogev points out, the last part is from a death metal concert at the Wacken festival 2008 (and shows that some rock fans have as many neurons as some football hooligans - between 5 and 10, I guess). The Michael Jackson part is located and dated https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAKDNr022UU" rel="nofollow - here in Bucharest 1992...
Now, who identifies the first part?

Edit: OK, found it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwlZ7txRJwI" rel="nofollow - here ... 2017!



Wow, good work. So the bit about it being all the same concert from the 70s is not entirely true then. 


I'm wondering if this clip was actually played on a big screen, at a concert, performed by a band who were big in the 70's in the 90's?? A bit of a stretch, but consistent with my general theory that's it's simply a 'trick' question, as the actual footage is clearly not from a concert by any of the listed acts.

OR, a 70's act was on the same bill, but not actually playing while the headbanging/feinting footage was filmed...again...stretchy... Can;t imagine any of those acts supporting Jacko.

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Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: May 13 2021 at 02:22
^ Along those lines, I figured it was best to begin with the last act, as that is possibly the most unlikely to be connected to prog. The track, according to the comments in the YT video is by an artist named Herobust who is a trap ‘n’ bass dj. That, of course, means he samples music. It would appear one of his favourite sources of samples is Art of Noise, and several of the Art of Noise songs he samples are more or less made up of Yes samples. This was probably the case since Trevor Horn, as Art of Noise, had easy access to Yes music to sample.

So going back from there, is there a link between Trevor Horn or maybe any other Yes member, with the other two concerts?



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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: May 13 2021 at 02:52
Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

^ Along those lines, I figured it was best to begin with the last act, as that is possibly the most unlikely to be connected to prog. The track, according to the comments in the YT video is by an artist named Herobust who is a trap ‘n’ bass dj. That, of course, means he samples music. It would appear one of his favourite sources of samples is Art of Noise, and several of the Art of Noise songs he samples are more or less made up of Yes samples. This was probably the case since Trevor Horn, as Art of Noise, had easy access to Yes music to sample.

So going back from there, is there a link between Trevor Horn or maybe any other Yes member, with the other two concerts?



Hmm, inteesting..

Do you have link to that YT clip with the sound? I can't find it.

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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: May 13 2021 at 02:55
Don't worry...found it now :-)

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Posted By: A Crimson Mellotron
Date Posted: May 13 2021 at 03:06
Hmm, very interesting for a couple of reasons: As someone else said, this doesn't look very 70s to me, but what do I know... Secondly, it looks like a Slayer concert, not a prog concert. LOL
So, I suppose such reactions could be seen at a Deep Purple concert at that time. The other bands in the list were not really that 'heavy' in the 70s.
Could be Zeppelin but I doubt it. (And finally, I would be absolutely shocked if this a prog concert - the behavior of the crowd wouldn't make sense)



Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: May 13 2021 at 03:18
Originally posted by A Crimson Mellotron A Crimson Mellotron wrote:

Hmm, very interesting for a couple of reasons: As someone else said, this doesn't look very 70s to me, but what do I know... Secondly, it looks like a Slayer concert, not a prog concert. LOL
So, I suppose such reactions could be seen at a Deep Purple concert at that time. The other bands in the list were not really that 'heavy' in the 70s.
Could be Zeppelin but I doubt it. (And finally, I would be absolutely shocked if this a prog concert - the behavior of the crowd wouldn't make sense)



Nope! We've already determined that the footage is actually not from the 70's and is comprised of numerous different gigs, including a Michael Jackson concert from the 90's.

It's some kind of trick question.

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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: May 13 2021 at 03:20
I reckon the first clip has to be Mike Oldfield playing "In Dulci Jubilo".


Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: May 13 2021 at 03:24
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

I reckon the first clip has to be Mike Oldfield playing "In Dulci Jubilo".


Yes! It's obvious when you think about it. Oldfield fans are f***ing lunatics.

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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: May 14 2021 at 09:07
Come on Friede, when are we going to find out what this is all about?


Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: May 14 2021 at 13:58
It is obviously from a concert with music by Edgard Varèse.


Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: May 14 2021 at 15:14
Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Like I said, it must be a 'trick' question. BaldFriede is a witty and intelligent member/s of this forum and wouldn't make a mistake, so I expect the answer to be depressingly clever, and probably obvious..

Well, I give in...WHAT IS THE ANSWER??

She hasn't replied. I think at this point she evidently realizes she screwed up, and whatever point she was trying to make is as nonsensical as that spliced together concert footage.


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Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: May 15 2021 at 01:07
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Come on Friede, when are we going to find out what this is all about?

I don’t think we are. Given Friede is posting replies to other posts, yet ignoring this one says a lot. I just think it’s a shame that even if this didn’t go as she planned, or if it were a joke that fell flat, or whatever, that she can’t make some response. Her silence and absence from this post is sad. I would have expected better from her.



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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: May 15 2021 at 01:20
If it is that big a concern, why not just PM her so you can try to talk to her rather than about her.

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Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: May 15 2021 at 02:31
Based upon what I read on PA, probably a Rush gig.  

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Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: May 15 2021 at 07:47
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

If it is that big a concern, why not just PM her so you can try to talk to her rather than about her.

It’s of no concern to me at all. If it were, I absolutely would have PM’d her. I was merely replying to someone else’s comment (just as I am here). 🤷🏻‍♂️



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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: May 15 2021 at 10:52
Nick, that comment wasn't just intended for you, but you did seem concerned (interested) about her character and her lack of involvement in this topic (you would have expected better from her and you find the silence and absence sad), other's concern is about who the artist was supposed to be. I am interested in which artist this was supposed to be, and I am interested in more of the context behind the topic, and I am concerned when it comes to Friede as I care about her well-being and I do hope that this topic and people's reactions have not caused too much discomfort. I am curious *cue some irrelevant babble about Schrödinger's cat*

I don't think one should be embarrassed about getting such a thing wrong (we all have our off-times), although it can hurt if one was misled by another. Some of these comments might be seen as a kind of insensitive goading that could cause one shame -- not saying that's the intent, but that might be the perception. Maybe if she was comfortable she would have responded. Not just this topic, but comments on the interest in Barbara Dennerlein by some might be seen as insensitive and uncharitable.

I do think we should be careful when talking about people and getting into their characters, sharing our perceptions and assumptions, and try to be charitable and empathetic (might be "misplaced" empathy as it's internal). Often I do think that it's best to try to talk to that person by PM rather than making public commentary. Maybe this would have been better PMed to you. I also think we should try to be sensitive if it seems one is uncomfortable posting and give that person some space -- who knows what issues that person is going through at the time, unless of course one cares enough to personally contact that person and ask about it.

Anyway, if people are really interested to know more about the topic subject, I do suggest a PM. I am sorry for getting on my soapbox (I rather despise myself for doing that).

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Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: May 15 2021 at 11:33
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Nick, that comment wasn't just intended for you, but you did seem concerned (interested) about her character and her lack of involvement in this topic (you would have expected better from her and you find the silence and absence sad), other's concern is about who the artist was supposed to be. I am interested in which artist this was supposed to be, and I am interested in more of the context behind the topic, and I am concerned when it comes to Friede as I care about her well-being and I do hope that this topic and people's reactions have not caused too much discomfort. I am curious *cue some irrelevant babble about Schrödinger's cat*

I don't think one should be embarrassed about getting such a thing wrong (we all have our off-times), although it can hurt if one was misled by another. Some of these comments might be seen as a kind of insensitive goading that could cause one shame -- not saying that's the intent, but that might be the perception. Maybe if she was comfortable she would have responded. Not just this topic, but comments on the interest in Barbara Dennerlein by some might be seen as insensitive and uncharitable.

I do think we should be careful when talking about people and getting into their characters, sharing our perceptions and assumptions, and try to be charitable and empathetic (might be "misplaced" empathy as it's internal). Often I do think that it's best to try to talk to that person by PM rather than making public commentary. Maybe this would have been better PMed to you. I also think we should try to be sensitive if it seems one is uncomfortable posting and give that person some space -- who knows what issues that person is going through at the time, unless of course one cares enough to personally contact that person and ask about it.

Anyway, if people are really interested to know more about the topic subject, I do suggest a PM. I am sorry for getting on my soapbox (I rather despise myself for doing that).

I appreciate it wasn’t just to me, but as you have then replied quoting my words, I would have thought that they showed the sensitivity, charity and empathy you were suggesting should be used. I definitely haven’t, and wouldn’t, say anything that I thought was insensitive to others. As can probably be seen by the way I stood up for Baz in another thread. I abhor bullying in any form, so I would definitely not partake in any in any discussion I thought were bullying. Some of the comments regarding Barbara Dennerlein on other posts in the past have definitely struck me as “off”, and I do think some forum regulars come very close to bullying at times, whether or not they are aware of it. Hopefully I am not one of those. But what your interpretation of my comment shows is how easily tone can be misconstrued on this forum, as you’ve read into what I’ve said quite different things than what I intended to convey. But, as per my previous comment, if I were at all concerned, I would have PM’d Friede. I haven’t, because I’m not. (And I’ve sent quite a few PM’s over time, when I have been concerned about something someone has said, so it’s not like this is something I avoid doing.)



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