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Topic: Your embarrassing prog secrets.
Posted By: SteveG
Subject: Your embarrassing prog secrets.
Date Posted: May 06 2021 at 06:09
That I only own one Rush album. What's yours?

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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: May 06 2021 at 06:11
That I've never listened to a Frank Zappa or Captain Beefheart album. Embarrassed Embarrassed


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: May 06 2021 at 06:14
I don't think I'm embarrassed with any prog i listen to. 


Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: May 06 2021 at 06:23
I secretly listen to Greta Van Fleet. Just kidding.

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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: May 06 2021 at 06:27
Not embarrassed but, I like prog from the last twenty years also.


Posted By: Neo-Romantic
Date Posted: May 06 2021 at 06:32
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

That I've never listened to a Frank Zappa or Captain Beefheart album. Embarrassed Embarrassed


Same

I also haven't yet heard a Gentle Giant album. Hope to remedy that when I can afford to spend for pleasure again

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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: May 06 2021 at 06:36
I wouldn't call it embarrassment as such, but my ears don't like much recorded after about 1983. It's just the way it is.

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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: May 06 2021 at 06:39
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

I secretly listen to Greta Van Fleet.

Shocked

I'm gonna tell everyone!


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: May 06 2021 at 06:39
Originally posted by Neo-Romantic Neo-Romantic wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

That I've never listened to a Frank Zappa or Captain Beefheart album. Embarrassed Embarrassed


Same

I also haven't yet heard a Gentle Giant album. Hope to remedy that when I can afford to spend for pleasure again

I've never heard a jolly green Gentle Giant album either, although I have now listened to all of Van der Graaf Generator's albums, only to discover I'm apparently the only member of ProgArchives who doesn't like the Pawn Hearts album, so double embarrassment for me again. Embarrassed Embarrassed


Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: May 06 2021 at 06:40
I have listened to the whole of Love Beach twice and quite like one of the tracks on it. Embarrassed


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: May 06 2021 at 06:46
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

I have listened to the whole of Love Beach twice and quite like one of the tracks on it. Embarrassed
I prefer Love Beach to Brain Salad Surgery and Trilogy, although that's been no secret for awhile now. Embarrassed


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: May 06 2021 at 06:49
Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Not embarrassed but, I like prog from the last twenty years also.

nothing to be embarrassed about...
I do, too. Tongue


Posted By: Mudpuppy64
Date Posted: May 06 2021 at 06:57
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Neo-Romantic Neo-Romantic wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

That I've never listened to a Frank Zappa or Captain Beefheart album. Embarrassed Embarrassed


Same

I also haven't yet heard a Gentle Giant album. Hope to remedy that when I can afford to spend for pleasure again

I've never heard a jolly green Gentle Giant album either, although I have now listened to all of Van der Graaf Generator's albums, only to discover I'm apparently the only member of ProgArchives who doesn't like the Pawn Hearts album, so double embarrassment for me again. Embarrassed Embarrassed


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Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: May 06 2021 at 06:59
I don't get the Prog Metal thing, even though I've sincerely tried.


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: May 06 2021 at 07:09
Originally posted by Manuel Manuel wrote:

I don't get the Prog Metal thing, even though I've sincerely tried.

progressive metal is quite diverse, so what did you try listening to? 


Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: May 06 2021 at 07:16
I'm not a massive fan of prog metal but I don't see it as embarrassing.


Posted By: JD
Date Posted: May 06 2021 at 07:17
Geez...where to start??
1 - I got rid of some of the best prog albums I had when I got sucked into the CD craze of the 80's
2 - I also quite like Love Beach for the most part, even though it has its stinkers and production flaws
3 - I have tried and tried but I can't get into IQ or many of the so called NeoProg stuff
4 - VDGG just doesn't resonate with me either, and I've given them lots of listens
5 - I'm an unabashed ELP Fanboy (See #2 above)


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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: May 06 2021 at 07:22
it's not really a secret with me: Rush leave me completely cold. I really have no idea why so many people like them.

interestingly many of those people who love Rush don't like Van der Graaf Generator (who are one of my favorite bands) at all. it appears the two bands are just not compatible


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Posted By: Argo2112
Date Posted: May 06 2021 at 07:24
I only like a handful of 20 minute "prog epics" ( CTTE, Supper's Ready, Scheherazade, Tarkus & a few others) 
 Beyond that I generally like my prog 10 minutes or less. 
 (sorry, please don't kick me off the site! Unhappy


Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: May 06 2021 at 07:29
Originally posted by Argo2112 Argo2112 wrote:

I only like a handful of 20 minute "prog epics" ( CTTE, Supper's Ready, Scheherazade, Tarkus & a few others) 
 Beyond that I generally like my prog 10 minutes or less. 
 (sorry, please don't kick me off the site! Unhappy

call me pedantic, but "Close to the Edge" is "only" 18:40


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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: May 06 2021 at 07:32
Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

it's not really a secret with me: Rush leave me completely cold. I really have no idea why so many people like them.

interestingly many of those people who love Rush don't like Van der Graaf Generator (who are one of my favorite bands) at all. it appears the two bands are just not compatible

I like Rush and I also like classic VDGG. 


Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: May 06 2021 at 07:37
Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

it's not really a secret with me: Rush leave me completely cold. I really have no idea why so many people like them.

interestingly many of those people who love Rush don't like Van der Graaf Generator (who are one of my favorite bands) at all. it appears the two bands are just not compatible


They are for me. I would list both among my favourite bands. Different music for different moods.



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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: May 06 2021 at 07:38
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

I secretly listen to Greta Van Fleet. Just kidding.

I'm embarrassed to admit I don't know who Greta Van Fleet is. I'd never heard of her until today. Embarrassed


Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: May 06 2021 at 07:50
I guess I'm quite open regarding my tastes and dislikes in prog. So, no embarrassment on my part here. At least, I don't remember now.

Yet, I can say that I was very much disappointed about the Prog Electronic sub-genre. I mean, intriguing (for me) progressive electronic albums are as rare as hen's teeth for me. I was like, "wow man, I love electronic music and can't imagine how much I'll love its prog variant,", but sadly that didn't happen.

P.S. I've listened perhaps more than a hundred prog electronic albums, and you wouldn't want to hear my statistics and ratings, haha. Though, there are some that I really love still.


Posted By: omphaloskepsis
Date Posted: May 06 2021 at 07:51
I believe The Big Generator and ABW&H are the best Yes albums since Going For The One.


Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: May 06 2021 at 07:53
I don't like a lot of prog ---think its bad music---especially bands who obviously rip off other great bands --Starcastle---and bands who w**k around with their instruments ---Like Flower Kings,  Transatlantic .Ermm

(flees thread and hides under bed)


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: May 06 2021 at 07:54
Originally posted by omphaloskepsis omphaloskepsis wrote:

I believe The Big Generator and ABW&H are the best Yes albums since Going For The One.

wow, interesting. 

I like Big Generator and dislike ABWH.

Drama is the best post GTFO album in my opinion, followed by 90125. 


Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: May 06 2021 at 07:57
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

I secretly listen to Greta Van Fleet. Just kidding.


I'm embarrassed to admit I don't know who Greta Van Fleet is. I'd never heard of her until today. Embarrassed


They're worth a quick look on YT. Hard rock/proggy kind of mash up of Styx, and generic 70's organ driven rock, a bit of Heep, Purple etc.. Singer who looks like a mutant splicing of Kevin DuBrow, Freddie Mercury and that bloke from Dexy's Midnight Runners. One of those 'Marmite' voices too, althoug he rips off Robert Planet very well on their song When the Curtain falls.



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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: May 06 2021 at 07:57
Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

it's not really a secret with me: Rush leave me completely cold. I really have no idea why so many people like them.

interestingly many of those people who love Rush don't like Van der Graaf Generator (who are one of my favorite bands) at all. it appears the two bands are just not compatible


They are for me. I would list both among my favourite bands. Different music for different moods.

Yeah me too. I'm a bigger Rush fan than VdGG but I like it a bit of both according to mood as Andy says.


Posted By: A Crimson Mellotron
Date Posted: May 06 2021 at 08:04
I could hardly stand listening to Yes when I first discovered them. Hardly coped with the vocals.
However, they are among my all-time favorite bands now.


Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: May 06 2021 at 08:08
I play the tuba very badly.

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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: May 06 2021 at 08:11
Originally posted by A Crimson Mellotron A Crimson Mellotron wrote:

I could hardly stand listening to Yes when I first discovered them. Hardly coped with the vocals.
However, they are among my all-time favorite bands now.
It's funny, because I felt the same way about Yes when I first heard their challenging Relayer album, but then I heard the far more approachable 90125 album and I was hooked. Does It Really Happen? Yes, It Can Happen.  Smile


Posted By: Argo2112
Date Posted: May 06 2021 at 08:15
Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

Originally posted by Argo2112 Argo2112 wrote:

I only like a handful of 20 minute "prog epics" ( CTTE, Supper's Ready, Scheherazade, Tarkus & a few others) 
 Beyond that I generally like my prog 10 minutes or less. 
 (sorry, please don't kick me off the site! Unhappy

call me pedantic, but "Close to the Edge" is "only" 18:40

Ok, Close to 20 minutes. 


Posted By: Argo2112
Date Posted: May 06 2021 at 08:17
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

I secretly listen to Greta Van Fleet. Just kidding.

I'm embarrassed to admit I don't know who Greta Van Fleet is. I'd never heard of her until today. Embarrassed
Newer band, They get compared to Led Zeppelin a lot. 


Posted By: TerLJack
Date Posted: May 06 2021 at 08:21
I am a huge fan of Burt Bacharach.  Is that embarrassing?


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: May 06 2021 at 08:24
Originally posted by TerLJack TerLJack wrote:

I am a huge fan of Burt Bacharach.  Is that embarrassing?

I don't know who Burt Bacharach is. 


Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: May 06 2021 at 08:25
Originally posted by TerLJack TerLJack wrote:

I am a huge fan of Burt Bacharach.  Is that embarrassing?

Only if you’re embarrassed by that.

I am a huge fan of Gene Pitney (who sang a lot of Bacharach), and the one concert of his I attended was one of my favourite gigs ever.

And I’m not in the slightest embarrassed by that! 🤗



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Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: May 06 2021 at 08:28
Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

[Rush] leave me completely cold. I really have no idea why so many people like them.


Said 99.999% of people about 99.9% of prog.

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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: May 06 2021 at 08:29
Originally posted by TerLJack TerLJack wrote:

I am a huge fan of Burt Bacharach.  Is that embarrassing?

Me too, and it's nothing to be embarrassed about at all. The wonderful music of Burt Bacharach appeals to  Anyone Who Had a Heart and anyone who doesn't like his music can just Walk On By. Heart


Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: May 06 2021 at 08:53
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by TerLJack TerLJack wrote:

I am a huge fan of Burt Bacharach.  Is that embarrassing?

Me too, and it's nothing to be embarrassed about at all. The wonderful music of Burt Bacharach appeals to  Anyone Who Had a Heart and anyone who doesn't like his music can just Walk On By. Heart

An all time great composer, not embarrassing (but not a prog secret though). 

Is Burt Bacharach prog?


Posted By: AZF
Date Posted: May 06 2021 at 08:59
I wouldn't say it's embarrassing, just more that I shouldn't be here.
I fell out of love with Pink Floyd for a start.
Debilitating virus around planet? Ok.
Worldwide adjustment? Ok.
Spending lockdown listening to droning bullsh*t with "and Daddy... HE DIED IN THE WAAAARRRRRR!!!". No, that's where I draw the line.
Technical proficiency isn't enough.
Jethro Tull suck balls. Only Genesis I can tolerate these days.
Never loved Yes.
Modern Prog bands are delusional.
Modern Prog fans are seemingly KKK members.

Please ban the f**k out of this account. I'm now into Funk and Soul more than Prog. Well after listening to twiddling keyboards and guitars with a ham act-orrr "interpreting" lyrics from the semi-illiterate, I thought it was about time I listened to music that made me feel ALIVE. Put a smile on my face. Put a spring in my step.

The only thing more tedious than UK Prog is UK Punk.
American music does seemingly beat European music. But not their "Art Rock".

I've more sense than money, so enjoy box set after overpriced box set of the junk you used to listen to being endlessly molested by Steve Wilson. And indeed moaning about "Aww, Steve Wilson has ruined it!!". One born every minute.

It's also 2021. The world has moved on. Shave off your silly beards and face the fact we've failed to make a better world.
I do feel like a b*****d making this post, but if I press the back button, I'd just be lying to myself and others.
Apologies for anyone who ever read my posts. But I am just so f**king done with this genre. And even if walking alone, as least I'm stepping towards a future.

Prog Rock? Prog SUCKS!!


Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: May 06 2021 at 08:59
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by TerLJack TerLJack wrote:

I am a huge fan of Burt Bacharach.  Is that embarrassing?


Me too, and it's nothing to be embarrassed about at all. The wonderful music of Burt Bacharach appeals to  Anyone Who Had a Heart and anyone who doesn't like his music can just Walk On By. Heart


An all time great composer, not embarrassing (but not a prog secret though). 

Is Burt Bacharach prog?
Proto prog!? It's 60s music.

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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: May 06 2021 at 09:11
Originally posted by AZF AZF wrote:


Please ban the f**k out of this account.


Yep.


Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: May 06 2021 at 09:11
Not EMBARRASSED about it in any way at all, but not a huge fan of VDGG.  And more importantly, as a Yes fan, I never really got TFTO and don't think I will at any point.  It's just not for me. 


Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: May 06 2021 at 09:23
Big fan of Novalis with their cheesy vocals.

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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: May 06 2021 at 09:28
Originally posted by AZF AZF wrote:

I wouldn't say it's embarrassing, just more that I shouldn't be here.
I fell out of love with Pink Floyd for a start.
Debilitating virus around planet? Ok.
Worldwide adjustment? Ok.
Spending lockdown listening to droning bullsh*t with "and Daddy... HE DIED IN THE WAAAARRRRRR!!!". No, that's where I draw the line.
Technical proficiency isn't enough.
Jethro Tull suck balls. Only Genesis I can tolerate these days.
Never loved Yes.
Modern Prog bands are delusional.
Modern Prog fans are seemingly KKK members.

Please ban the f**k out of this account. I'm now into Funk and Soul more than Prog. Well after listening to twiddling keyboards and guitars with a ham act-orrr "interpreting" lyrics from the semi-illiterate, I thought it was about time I listened to music that made me feel ALIVE. Put a smile on my face. Put a spring in my step.

The only thing more tedious than UK Prog is UK Punk.
American music does seemingly beat European music. But not their "Art Rock".

I've more sense than money, so enjoy box set after overpriced box set of the junk you used to listen to being endlessly molested by Steve Wilson. And indeed moaning about "Aww, Steve Wilson has ruined it!!". One born every minute.

It's also 2021. The world has moved on. Shave off your silly beards and face the fact we've failed to make a better world.
I do feel like a b*****d making this post, but if I press the back button, I'd just be lying to myself and others.
Apologies for anyone who ever read my posts. But I am just so f**king done with this genre. And even if walking alone, as least I'm stepping towards a future.

Prog Rock? Prog SUCKS!!
I'm embarrassed by this post. Dead

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Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: May 06 2021 at 09:58
Originally posted by AZF AZF wrote:

I'm stepping towards a future.


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Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: May 06 2021 at 10:00
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Manuel Manuel wrote:

I don't get the Prog Metal thing, even though I've sincerely tried.

progressive metal is quite diverse, so what did you try listening to? 

A lot of the music that gets listed under the genre. I admit some sounds interesting, with fine musicianship, but is not my cup of tea, and ultimately, doesn't really fit my taste.


Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: May 06 2021 at 10:02
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Manuel Manuel wrote:

I don't get the Prog Metal thing, even though I've sincerely tried.

progressive metal is quite diverse, so what did you try listening to? 
A lot of the music that gets listed under the genre. I admit there's a lot of musicianship and interesting passages, but ultimately, is not my cup of tea and doesn't fit my taste. 


Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: May 06 2021 at 10:06
I have a no-guilt policy when it comes to listening to music. If you like whatever it is, fine, it is your ears and no one else's. You do not have to like or dislike anything no matter what people say. Express your opinion, but know that someone else has one just the opposite. If you do not like Prog, you can exit this site yourself at any time. If you are exploring Prog, this is a great site. If you already listen to Prog, you can get insights and suggestions for new directions in listening if you want them or you can celebrate your favorites on this site. I can listen to a symphony, followed by Kiss, followed by Genesis, followed by some Blues, followed by Tuvan throat singing, followed by three hours of Steve Roach, for example.

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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: May 06 2021 at 10:10
Excellent. But you forgot to mention Gregorian Chants. My favorite.

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Posted By: Howlett
Date Posted: May 06 2021 at 10:13
Originally posted by Progosopher Progosopher wrote:

I can listen to a symphony, followed by Kiss, followed by Genesis, followed by some Blues, followed by Tuvan throat singing, followed by three hours of Steve Roach, for example.


Same here. I have a pretty big playlist on Spotify of pretty much every song I've enjoyed listening to, and it covers a lot of different genres: classic rock, almost all prog, blues and soul, jazz, country, grunge, punk, metal, etc. Sometimes I'll be in the mood for a specific genre, but often I just wanna listen to music and I don't really care what I get.


Posted By: Mirakaze
Date Posted: May 06 2021 at 10:14
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Neo-Romantic Neo-Romantic wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

That I've never listened to a Frank Zappa or Captain Beefheart album. Embarrassed Embarrassed


Same

I also haven't yet heard a Gentle Giant album. Hope to remedy that when I can afford to spend for pleasure again

I've never heard a jolly green Gentle Giant album either


Seeing as how you've enjoyed a lot of prog-band-gone-pop albums, you might be interested in their albums from 1977's The Missing Piece onwards.

Anyway embarrassing things, uh, I listen to quite a lot of drum & bass music.


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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: May 06 2021 at 10:32
No embarrassing prog secrets....I listen to so much more music than just prog rock. I grew up on funk/R&B so I still listen to it and will never stop, the musicianship and writing is amazing. Maurice White, Prince, George Clinton, Boosty Collins, Verdine White are musical geniuses!! 

I listen to Madonna, Diana Krall, Holly Cole, Sarah Vaughn, S'Norah Jones, Joss Stone because they are stellar vocalists and I can recognize their talent and not feel pressured by the prog masses to feel I'm weird.....Prog is weird.

Rush are my #1 all time band and I do listen to VdGG, so that argument is baseless.

Carry on.....


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Posted By: Gentle and Giant
Date Posted: May 06 2021 at 12:16
I love both Rush and VDGG equally too.

My secret - I've never been a big fan of Yes, which is embarrassing when the No 1 album on a prog site is by Yes. 


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Posted By: Artik
Date Posted: May 06 2021 at 13:05
My embarrassing secret is I couldn't get into Jethro Tull "Passion Play", Genesis "Lamb"  and Gentle Giant "Three friends" for about 25 years. I kinda liked them (being a huge fan of those bands) but not that much and couldn't get my head around them.  Only recently I have recognised them as masterpieces they truly are. This rediscovery of some sort made me very happy but, I'm ashame of myself for my previous ignorance. 


Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: May 06 2021 at 13:08
But how do you really feel (and this time, lower the gloves)? [meant for AZF]

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Posted By: Homotopy
Date Posted: May 06 2021 at 13:20
Originally posted by Gentle and Giant Gentle and Giant wrote:

My secret - I've never been a big fan of Yes, which is embarrassing when the No 1 album on a prog site is by Yes. 

Same, though I won't call it embarrassing. Embarrassing is Yes reviews that go "this is, obviously, perfection, and who dares to disagree is a stinky loser". Besides, it is just a shame that people instead of reviewing new stuff for others prefer to write another classic album review, as if the previous 200 were not enough. But I digress.
By the way, I have like 5 friends aged around 25 who's into prog, and no one likes Yes.


Posted By: JD
Date Posted: May 06 2021 at 13:27
Originally posted by AZF AZF wrote:

I wouldn't say it's embarrassing, just more that I shouldn't be here.
I fell out of love with Pink Floyd for a start.
Debilitating virus around planet? Ok.
Worldwide adjustment? Ok.
Spending lockdown listening to droning bullsh*t with "and Daddy... HE DIED IN THE WAAAARRRRRR!!!". No, that's where I draw the line.
Technical proficiency isn't enough.
Jethro Tull suck balls. Only Genesis I can tolerate these days.
Never loved Yes.
Modern Prog bands are delusional.
Modern Prog fans are seemingly KKK members.

Please ban the f**k out of this account. I'm now into Funk and Soul more than Prog. Well after listening to twiddling keyboards and guitars with a ham act-orrr "interpreting" lyrics from the semi-illiterate, I thought it was about time I listened to music that made me feel ALIVE. Put a smile on my face. Put a spring in my step.

The only thing more tedious than UK Prog is UK Punk.
American music does seemingly beat European music. But not their "Art Rock".

I've more sense than money, so enjoy box set after overpriced box set of the junk you used to listen to being endlessly molested by Steve Wilson. And indeed moaning about "Aww, Steve Wilson has ruined it!!". One born every minute.

It's also 2021. The world has moved on. Shave off your silly beards and face the fact we've failed to make a better world.
I do feel like a b*****d making this post, but if I press the back button, I'd just be lying to myself and others.
Apologies for anyone who ever read my posts. But I am just so f**king done with this genre. And even if walking alone, as least I'm stepping towards a future.

Prog Rock? Prog SUCKS!!
And yet here you are ! Hmmm, the poster dost protest too much, methinks. Fair enough you hate the now and maybe got bored with the then, but that's about you, not the music. Prog doesn't suck anymore than your posts do.
Oh, wait...maybe I need to rethink this.


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Posted By: Homotopy
Date Posted: May 06 2021 at 13:28
What I am embarrassed by is how I used to be a kind of a fan boi, giving 5-stars to many albums that hardly deserved that. Thus recently I had to reconsider almost all of my old ratings. Not when I listen to that stuff I have to ask myself, "did I really consider this piece of trivia a top album?"


Posted By: Homotopy
Date Posted: May 06 2021 at 13:32
Originally posted by AZF AZF wrote:


Prog Rock? Prog SUCKS!!

Intriguing. Care to tell what ROCKS?


Posted By: zwordser
Date Posted: May 06 2021 at 13:34
Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

it's not really a secret with me: Rush leave me completely cold. I really have no idea why so many people like them.

interestingly many of those people who love Rush don't like Van der Graaf Generator (who are one of my favorite bands) at all. it appears the two bands are just not compatible



Well, I love 'em both. (Should that be my big Prog Secret??)

There is some compatibility:  According to Rush's website, they were "Very Inspired" by VDGG (among some other bands--mostly with their late 70's output).   Particularly, I've heard that their creation of Cygnus X-1 was inspired by Pioneers Over C, though I don't remember where I read this.  In any case, the two tracks are similar in concept.


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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: May 06 2021 at 13:44
Let's see what I can say to get kicked from the site...
(1) I don't know whether I had heard any Rush before I joined the site in 2015. Chances are I had, but it hadn't left any impression on me. So I really didn't know how they sound when I saw everyone discussing them here.
And, even worse:
(2) I like Under Wraps more than the first three Jethro Tull albums.

As a massive Art Zoyd fan I actually find more embarrassing that I hadn't heard any Univers Zero before joining the site, but I'm pretty sure I'm not alone with that (OK massive Art Zoyd fans are few and far between but at least the world is full of people who don't know Univers Zero Tongue).


Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: May 06 2021 at 14:01
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

That I've never listened to a Frank Zappa or Captain Beefheart album. Embarrassed Embarrassed
 
My first Frank Zappa album was Baby Snakes, which I bought for Titties & Beer.
 
 


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Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: May 06 2021 at 14:19
The first time I heard "Moya" on vinyl from "Godspeed You! Black Emperor" on vinyl, I played it at 33 1/3 rpm and it was supposed to be played at 45 rpm.  Going even further, it wasn't the first time I heard it, and I still didn't realize it.  Yet, it still sounded pretty great.  (Just in case anyone picks that up on vinyl, be warned that side A is 45 rpm and side B is 33 1/3 rpm just to make it even more interesting....I love finding those little vinyl surprises like that.)

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Posted By: projeKct
Date Posted: May 06 2021 at 14:27
My "embarrassing prog secret" is that I'm not a big fan of Yes (except for Fragile and CTTE). But strangely enough, I'm a HUGE fan of The Flower Kings and symphonic prog in general.

Am I normal? Embarrassed


Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: May 06 2021 at 14:39
I suppose it's not too embarrassing that some proggers don't like Yes as it seems to be the case in several of the comments here.  In my early prog days, I didn't like Yes that much either, but I stayed determined to "get it" since they were so highly regarded in prog circles.  And I did get it.  They have become one of my favorite all-time bands.  It's not easy music to get into and requires a lot of commitment to truly "get it" because it is quite complex.  

So, I guess it's normal to not like Yes but to love prog.  I thought I was abnormal too, but have since seen the light.  The payoff for the time I put into it all was worth it.


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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: May 06 2021 at 15:37
Originally posted by zwordser zwordser wrote:

Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

it's not really a secret with me: Rush leave me completely cold. I really have no idea why so many people like them.

interestingly many of those people who love Rush don't like Van der Graaf Generator (who are one of my favorite bands) at all. it appears the two bands are just not compatible



Well, I love 'em both. (Should that be my big Prog Secret??)

There is some compatibility:  According to Rush's website, they were "Very Inspired" by VDGG (among some other bands--mostly with their late 70's output).   Particularly, I've heard that their creation of Cygnus X-1 was inspired by Pioneers Over C, though I don't remember where I read this.  In any case, the two tracks are similar in concept.
I remember a video interview of Geddy mentioning VdGG as a band he listens to and drew some musical inspiration from, there is no reason why they would not be influenced by VdGG. 
"We" think we know so much about these bands and what they were doing and listening to back in the day...


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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: May 06 2021 at 15:45
Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

it's not really a secret with me: Rush leave me completely cold. I really have no idea why so many people like them.

interestingly many of those people who love Rush don't like Van der Graaf Generator (who are one of my favorite bands) at all. it appears the two bands are just not compatible


Au contraire! Both are my favorite bands! But i'm a music nerd on steroids so i guess i don't count LOL


Dirty secrets? I can only listen to Caravan's Land of the Grey and Pink dressed as a pig



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Posted By: omphaloskepsis
Date Posted: May 06 2021 at 16:17
Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:




Dirty secrets? I can only listen to Caravan's Land of the Grey and Pink dressed as a pig

There's another way to listen to Land of the Grey and Pink?



Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: May 06 2021 at 18:12
That I still, to this day, have never heard Gentle Giant, and I have no idea what they sound like.


Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: May 06 2021 at 19:01
Here's an embarrassing Halloween costume I once made for myself with like zero budget or skills. xD


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Posted By: projeKct
Date Posted: May 06 2021 at 19:09
Originally posted by The Anders The Anders wrote:

That I still, to this day, have never heard Gentle Giant, and I have no idea what they sound like.

WHAT ?! Shocked

But, in fact, you're lucky! Many discoveries to come!!


Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: May 06 2021 at 20:47
Originally posted by A Crimson Mellotron A Crimson Mellotron wrote:

I could hardly stand listening to Yes when I first discovered them. Hardly coped with the vocals.
However, they are among my all-time favorite bands now.

I was that way with Genesis. Listened to Selling England by the Pound and didn't get it at all. And then after a few tries every few years, one day it suddenly clicked, and I became a massive fan of the Gabriel-era.

Originally posted by TerLJack TerLJack wrote:

I am a huge fan of Burt Bacharach.  Is that embarrassing?

A few months ago I had a sudden desire to listen to his music and dived in, especially the Dionne albums. I especially feel that way about Michel Legrand's work, especially his French musicals; or Francoise Hardy's 60s albums; they're like time machines to a different era.

Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Is Burt Bacharach prog?
Time to add the Carpenters to PA LOL


Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: May 06 2021 at 21:21
I'm a big fan of from genesis to revelation, time and a word, tormato and and then there were three.  Tongue


Posted By: A Crimson Mellotron
Date Posted: May 07 2021 at 00:17
Originally posted by projeKct projeKct wrote:

My "embarrassing prog secret" is that I'm not a big fan of Yes (except for Fragile and CTTE). But strangely enough, I'm a HUGE fan of The Flower Kings and symphonic prog in general.

Am I normal? Embarrassed
Well, you ought to be. LOL
I enjoy both Yes and The Flower Kings, and I do not understand when the latter gets the regressive rock flak!



Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: May 07 2021 at 00:24
I've never once listened to a bit of Magma.  I guess I should get on with it, eh?

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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: May 07 2021 at 00:27
......EmbarrassedEmbarrassedEmbarrassedEmbarrassedEmbarrassedEmbarrassedEmbarrassed

.....I actually hate.... prog




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Posted By: Awesoreno
Date Posted: May 07 2021 at 00:30
Originally posted by I prophesy disaster I prophesy disaster wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

That I've never listened to a Frank Zappa or Captain Beefheart album. Embarrassed Embarrassed
 
My first Frank Zappa album was Baby Snakes, which I bought for Titties & Beer.
 
 

Now what will you give me for your titties and beer? I suppose you've noticed this little contract here?


Posted By: Awesoreno
Date Posted: May 07 2021 at 00:30
Originally posted by AZF AZF wrote:

I wouldn't say it's embarrassing, just more that I shouldn't be here.
I fell out of love with Pink Floyd for a start.
Debilitating virus around planet? Ok.
Worldwide adjustment? Ok.
Spending lockdown listening to droning bullsh*t with "and Daddy... HE DIED IN THE WAAAARRRRRR!!!". No, that's where I draw the line.
Technical proficiency isn't enough.
Jethro Tull suck balls. Only Genesis I can tolerate these days.
Never loved Yes.
Modern Prog bands are delusional.
Modern Prog fans are seemingly KKK members.

Please ban the f**k out of this account. I'm now into Funk and Soul more than Prog. Well after listening to twiddling keyboards and guitars with a ham act-orrr "interpreting" lyrics from the semi-illiterate, I thought it was about time I listened to music that made me feel ALIVE. Put a smile on my face. Put a spring in my step.

The only thing more tedious than UK Prog is UK Punk.
American music does seemingly beat European music. But not their "Art Rock".

I've more sense than money, so enjoy box set after overpriced box set of the junk you used to listen to being endlessly molested by Steve Wilson. And indeed moaning about "Aww, Steve Wilson has ruined it!!". One born every minute.

It's also 2021. The world has moved on. Shave off your silly beards and face the fact we've failed to make a better world.
I do feel like a b*****d making this post, but if I press the back button, I'd just be lying to myself and others.
Apologies for anyone who ever read my posts. But I am just so f**king done with this genre. And even if walking alone, as least I'm stepping towards a future.

Prog Rock? Prog SUCKS!!
I love this post. Live your truth, friend.


Posted By: Neo-Romantic
Date Posted: May 07 2021 at 01:23
Originally posted by jude111 jude111 wrote:

Time to add the Carpenters to PA LOL




That's funny, I was just thinking about them today Karen Carpenter had such a great voice!

Another embarrassing prog secret: the only Canterbury Scene album I've ever listened to is the Zopp debut from last year.

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Posted By: friso
Date Posted: May 07 2021 at 01:45
My embarrassing secret: I've owned up to 70% of the PA top 100 on a vinyl and I own only 30% now. I just don't like Yes, Rush and most albums of Jethro TUll. I've regained interest in Genesis because of the great remixes/vinyl reissues of 2018. So I guess I'm back to 35% because of that :). Also: the first one to say he/she would love to have Dark Side of the Moon on a vinyl can take mine.

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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: May 07 2021 at 01:46
Originally posted by AZF AZF wrote:

I wouldn't say it's embarrassing, just more that I shouldn't be here.
I fell out of love with Pink Floyd for a start.
Debilitating virus around planet? Ok.
Worldwide adjustment? Ok.
Spending lockdown listening to droning bullsh*t with "and Daddy... HE DIED IN THE WAAAARRRRRR!!!". No, that's where I draw the line.
Technical proficiency isn't enough.
Jethro Tull suck balls. Only Genesis I can tolerate these days.
Never loved Yes.
Modern Prog bands are delusional.
Modern Prog fans are seemingly KKK members.

Please ban the f**k out of this account. I'm now into Funk and Soul more than Prog. Well after listening to twiddling keyboards and guitars with a ham act-orrr "interpreting" lyrics from the semi-illiterate, I thought it was about time I listened to music that made me feel ALIVE. Put a smile on my face. Put a spring in my step.

The only thing more tedious than UK Prog is UK Punk.
American music does seemingly beat European music. But not their "Art Rock".

I've more sense than money, so enjoy box set after overpriced box set of the junk you used to listen to being endlessly molested by Steve Wilson. And indeed moaning about "Aww, Steve Wilson has ruined it!!". One born every minute.

It's also 2021. The world has moved on. Shave off your silly beards and face the fact we've failed to make a better world.
I do feel like a b*****d making this post, but if I press the back button, I'd just be lying to myself and others.
Apologies for anyone who ever read my posts. But I am just so f**king done with this genre. And even if walking alone, as least I'm stepping towards a future.

Prog Rock? Prog SUCKS!!


It was never proved that Tull sucked balls. That was just a malicious rumour spread by John Peel after Anderson p!ssed in his bran flakes...

You're an interesting character. Have you tried talking through your anger issues with a healthcare professional?

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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: May 07 2021 at 02:54
There’s nothing to be embarrased about when it comes to music methinks. Are any of you embarrased because you don’t like the taste of lamb/celory/garlic/cucumber/olives?
I just love the colour turquoise but man I feel a little embarrased that I don’t enjoy peeyellow just as much.

The only thing where I can see this making any sort of sense is if you are unsure of yourself and need others to like the same stuff as you do...or else everything is of course lost. That’s where we get phrases such as ‘don’t shoot me but I really love Torman Maxt’.
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Posted By: JD
Date Posted: May 07 2021 at 05:32
Originally posted by friso friso wrote:

My embarrassing secret: I've owned up to 70% of the PA top 100 on a vinyl and I own only 30% now. I just don't like Yes, Rush and most albums of Jethro TUll. I've regained interest in Genesis because of the great remixes/vinyl reissues of 2018. So I guess I'm back to 35% because of that :). Also: the first one to say he/she would love to have Dark Side of the Moon on a vinyl can take mine.
ME.ME.ME!!!
I'll even pay for postage. PM me.


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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: May 07 2021 at 06:14
I have not listened to Pink Floyd or Genesis in almost 20 years. Or Yes, except for 90125, which was given to me by a neighbor. He also gave me Big Generator, but I passed on listening to that one.

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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: May 07 2021 at 06:19
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:


I have not listened to Pink Floyd or Genesis in almost 20 years. Or Yes, except for 90125, which was given to me by a neighbor. He also gave me Big Generator, but I passed on listening to that one.
You're a lousy neighbor.


Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: May 07 2021 at 06:40
Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:


I have not listened to Pink Floyd or Genesis in almost 20 years. Or Yes, except for 90125, which was given to me by a neighbor. He also gave me Big Generator, but I passed on listening to that one.
You're a lousy neighbor.
Sorry for not playing Big Generator for you.

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Posted By: projeKct
Date Posted: May 07 2021 at 06:43
Originally posted by AZF AZF wrote:

I wouldn't say it's embarrassing, just more that I shouldn't be here.
I fell out of love with Pink Floyd for a start.
Debilitating virus around planet? Ok.
Worldwide adjustment? Ok.
Spending lockdown listening to droning bullsh*t with "and Daddy... HE DIED IN THE WAAAARRRRRR!!!". No, that's where I draw the line.
Technical proficiency isn't enough.
Jethro Tull suck balls. Only Genesis I can tolerate these days.
Never loved Yes.
Modern Prog bands are delusional.
Modern Prog fans are seemingly KKK members.

Please ban the f**k out of this account. I'm now into Funk and Soul more than Prog. Well after listening to twiddling keyboards and guitars with a ham act-orrr "interpreting" lyrics from the semi-illiterate, I thought it was about time I listened to music that made me feel ALIVE. Put a smile on my face. Put a spring in my step.

The only thing more tedious than UK Prog is UK Punk.
American music does seemingly beat European music. But not their "Art Rock".

I've more sense than money, so enjoy box set after overpriced box set of the junk you used to listen to being endlessly molested by Steve Wilson. And indeed moaning about "Aww, Steve Wilson has ruined it!!". One born every minute.

It's also 2021. The world has moved on. Shave off your silly beards and face the fact we've failed to make a better world.
I do feel like a b*****d making this post, but if I press the back button, I'd just be lying to myself and others.
Apologies for anyone who ever read my posts. But I am just so f**king done with this genre. And even if walking alone, as least I'm stepping towards a future.

Prog Rock? Prog SUCKS!!
I think you are putting many sub-genres in the same bag. I'm sure you could find many "prog" albums that would make you happy. Personally, I don't like everything in "prog"... even hate some. Also, I don't listen exclusively to "prog". But my favorite albums are mostly under the "prog" genre.


Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: May 07 2021 at 07:25
Hi,

I was trying to look for some secrets ... and in my closets I could not even find a single skeleton, even of a mouse!

So, maybe the minute I find one I will let you know ... but the scarier thing for me, is how so many of us ignore music from too many other countries and don't realize that there is so much out there, that (in the end) you don't even have the time to look at your closet!!!

I only have music I love ... no secrets!


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Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: May 07 2021 at 07:54
Originally posted by Neo-Romantic Neo-Romantic wrote:

Originally posted by jude111 jude111 wrote:

Time to add the Carpenters to PA LOL




That's funny, I was just thinking about them today Karen Carpenter had such a great voice!

I agree! Younger me would have balked, but now I get what they're about; they did a couple of definitive takes of Bachararch tunes, and helped epitomize that Brill Building sound. (Not to mention they covered Klaatu!:) I started to come around on all this after hearing Juliana Hatfield's Olivia Newton John album (which is really great). The world really needs some Hatfield songbook albums on Brill and Bacharach. (Sorry, this isn't prog-related at all;)


Posted By: Neo-Romantic
Date Posted: May 07 2021 at 08:30
Originally posted by jude111 jude111 wrote:

Originally posted by Neo-Romantic Neo-Romantic wrote:

Originally posted by jude111 jude111 wrote:

Time to add the Carpenters to PA LOL




That's funny, I was just thinking about them today Karen Carpenter had such a great voice!


I agree! Younger me would have balked, but now I get what they're about; they did a couple of definitive takes of Bachararch tunes, and helped epitomize that Brill Building sound. (Not to mention they covered Klaatu!:) I started to come around on all this after hearing Juliana Hatfield's Olivia Newton John album (which is really great). The world really needs some Hatfield songbook albums on Brill and Bacharach. (Sorry, this isn't prog-related at all;)



Haha no problem! Nothing wrong with putting respect on a generational talent like the Carpenters

Another embarrassing confession: the only Carpenters album I've heard front to back is their Christmas album, but I think it's pretty great!

Sorry for making the Carpenters tangent longer. We're over the edge, as opposed to just being close to it

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Posted By: friso
Date Posted: May 07 2021 at 09:13
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:


I have not listened to Pink Floyd or Genesis in almost 20 years. Or Yes, except for 90125, which was given to me by a neighbor. He also gave me Big Generator, but I passed on listening to that one.


postage would be much more expensive than finding it somewhere in a record store haha

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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: May 07 2021 at 10:00
Ringo was my favorite Beatle.

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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: May 07 2021 at 11:47
Originally posted by friso friso wrote:

My embarrassing secret: I've owned up to 70% of the PA top 100 on a vinyl and I own only 30% now. I just don't like Yes, Rush and most albums of Jethro TUll. I've regained interest in Genesis because of the great remixes/vinyl reissues of 2018. So I guess I'm back to 35% because of that :). Also: the first one to say he/she would love to have Dark Side of the Moon on a vinyl can take mine.

Umm...no! You should check the deadwax matrix first and see what pressing you have. You could be giving away a $2K record Shocked. The earliest press I have is a 5th press and that is worth about $100, 1st press A2/B2 or A3/B2 in VG condition with posters and cards is worth some coin!


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Posted By: TheLionOfPrague
Date Posted: May 07 2021 at 14:11
I listen to a lot of punk bands, don't know if that counts. 

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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: May 07 2021 at 14:15
Originally posted by TheLionOfPrague TheLionOfPrague wrote:

I listen to a lot of punk bands, don't know if that counts. 
Yes it does but so do I, especially NY Hardcore bands.

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Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: May 07 2021 at 14:17
What's embarrassing about listening to punk?


Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: May 07 2021 at 14:28
I watched The Lion King movie yesterday......does that count?

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Posted By: Progmind
Date Posted: May 07 2021 at 14:37
I´m not ashemed of:

1 - I really enjoy A-ha, Morten Harket its a great singer, Pal Waaktaar and Magen are great songwriters, listen their prog band Bridges, its great
2 - I enjoy a lot listening punk music, The Boys, The Damned, Buzzcoks, Stranglers are great
3 - Love Napalm Death
4 - Cant stand bands like Magma, Eskaton, Weirdoje, love the instrumental parts but those vocals!!!!!, cant stand it, love Dun, Zao, Univers Zero.
5 - Except Fragile, CTTE and Relayer cant tolerate Yes.
6 -Power metal bands like Nightwish, Rhapsody, Kamelot are not my cup of tea, only like Blind Guardian.
7 - Dream Theater only with Kevin Moore, the rest of their work bores me to death



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