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Topic: Genesis to tour again
Posted By: JD
Subject: Genesis to tour again
Date Posted: April 29 2021 at 15:41
 NEW YORK — English rock band Genesis is returning to the U.S. for their first tour in 14 years.
Phil Collins, Tony Banks and Mike Rutherford announced The Last Domino? Tour on Thursday, which will kick off in Chicago on Nov. 15. The 14-date tour will also visit Washington, D.C., Charlotte, Montreal, Toronto, Buffalo, Detroit, Cleveland and Philadelphia. The trek wraps in Boston on Dec. 15. Genesis will play two shows in the New York area: They visit Madison Square Garden in New York City on Dec. 5 and will play the brand-new UBS Arena in Belmont Park on Dec. 10. Tickets for the general public go on sale May 7. On the tour, Collins, Banks and Rutherford will be joined by their longtime guitar and bass player Daryl Stuermer and Nic Collins on drums. Genesis’ last U.S. tour was 2007’s Turn It On Again: The Tour. ------------- Thank you for supporting independently produced music |
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Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: April 29 2021 at 15:48
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Glad to see Daryl is back in the mix, they should have recorded with him. ------------- I am not a Robot, I'm a FREE MAN!! |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: April 29 2021 at 16:44
Nothing on the west coast....... -------------   
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Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: April 29 2021 at 23:33
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Boston is only 75 mins from me; I may have a shot!!! ------------- "I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: April 30 2021 at 01:54
| Does that mean that the planned UK tour is dead?! |
Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: April 30 2021 at 07:08
| I guess I won't see them if they don't come to California. |
Posted By: Ronstein
Date Posted: April 30 2021 at 07:17
Nope, they're touring the UK prior to going to the States (September & October)
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richardh wrote:Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: April 30 2021 at 17:20
Will the nurses from the retirement homes be the groupies? 
Seriously though, at first I wasn't sure but depending on the price this might be interesting. I guess this is their last hurrah I guess. Too bad there probably won't be an accompanying album.
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Posted By: Awesoreno
Date Posted: April 30 2021 at 21:21
You mean the East half of the States. Sucks for my Cali butt.
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Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: May 01 2021 at 00:25
I really wonder what the logic behind that booking (or lack of it) is. ------------- "I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: May 01 2021 at 00:57
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Hi, I'm thinking that they might (they might!!!) set up a West Coast set of stops later, depending how they feel after these 15 shows, and how Phil holds up. But the West Coast, has very limited attraction with good shows possible in LA, SF and Seattle, but everything in between is kinda not ... as good moneywise, I don't think. But the distances and the logistics with those distances make things different ... Heck, Portland would be good for them, but Portland is not known for doing great/good shows other than the top ten variety as they passed on RETURN TO FOREVER a few years back that put on a massive show in Eugene instead. AND, they even had Jean Luc Ponty with them ... you got a massive value ... but Portland doesn't care about value ... and the local orchestra can only do stuff they can use Pink Martini on !!!!
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Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: May 01 2021 at 07:22
if poor Phil makes it to the start of the tour will be a great achievement ...no Steve no Genesis.
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Posted By: Earl of Mar
Date Posted: May 02 2021 at 09:41
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I was interested in the O2 London gig. I am not a big fan of later Genesis but it's a one off. Two tickets are £450! By the time I've had a few drinks and a meal it would be well over 500 quid. I'm sure there are many fans who will pay that kind of money but I just couldn't justify that kind of outlay. Hackett doing Seconds Out at the Palladium for me. |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: May 02 2021 at 10:03
Hi, Unfortunately in the business of the arts, the price is always exorbitant when it comes to the really big stars ... you could not see Nureyev or Baryshnikov without spending a fortune, and for a long time, Pavarotti could only do a few places around the world where it would sell out immediately regardless of price. Sadly, in the rock business, the same thing has taken place, and many of these bands still think they can milk the public and so what? Right! I still think that a streamed show, only available at the time of the show (for example) would sell out three/four times as much for half that price ... but I don't see these mega bands interested in advancing the technology and style into a more progressive area ... which in many ways explains things poetically and conceptually ... they don't "have it" anymore, and will rely on their laurels. At least you gotta hand it to the Rolling Stones, who are still creating new material ... whereas everyone has folded. I would not even consider seeing any of these monsters. I never did see Genesis, but caught PG on his first tour in the USA ... and it was fine, not great ... and I think he was too much into "his songs" ... and I didn't exactly feel they were that great ... though they were fine and I still have the albums. The real treat would be if they had the balls to have PG show up for a couple of songs, and that would give the fans a memory worth having in your collage ... but sadly ... for them it's not about the great music ... it's something else entirely. At this time and place, there are only 2 folks I would pay to see ... VdGG and Vangelis. I would have said AD2 but their will and band is decimated and they are stuck in a "no rehearsal" kind of thing and at times they just do not sound good, and it makes me sad. ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: May 02 2021 at 10:50
£450!!! I'll be giving that a big miss then. To be honest I'd rather see Hackett anyway.
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Posted By: JD
Date Posted: May 02 2021 at 11:53
Really? New Material? Haven't they taken all their licks from the American blues scene?
Don't have the balls? it doesn't take balls. What you are proposing is called 'pandering to the fans', and I have no doubt PG is far above that. He has his own voice now. If he wanted to retread the 'ol genesis stuff he would, but he doesn't need to. While Steve Hackett chose to go that route, I sort of feel he spent a little too much time with it. Like Gabriel, he has plenty of solid original material to perform. ------------- Thank you for supporting independently produced music |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: May 02 2021 at 12:39
Where are you Frenetic? I'm in Quincy ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: May 02 2021 at 12:40
Hi, Not really ... I was more thinking as an interest that made the show better, instead of yet another song, from what many think is 2nd rate material. I'm old school ... I thought GENESIS was great until PG left, though they had one more album that probably was already half written by them anyway ... that showed an interesting prospect ... but that ended right there. PG showing up, would be a treat ... not exactly a dreamy old story from the past. At the time, I could not even consider GENESIS ... when there were so many other European groups around ... PFM, Golden Earring, Focus, Kayak, and many others that were getting the chance ... and GENESIS lost it for me.
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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: May 02 2021 at 13:10
Bloody hell! £450??!! I have just paid a couple of hundred quid for four tickets to see Hackett (with my son) and Marillion (with my wife), so worked out at something like £50 a throw, which I can live with. I love Genesis, and have seen them numerous times since the first one at The Lyceum (the one which is on YouTube) but I would never have paid that amount of money even then, let alone when there is a serious doubt as to Phil’s ability and only one drummer. Pass....... ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time! |
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: May 02 2021 at 13:11
Even though I am going to see Hackett (see above post) I really absolutely agree with this extremely wise post. ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time! |
Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: May 02 2021 at 13:54
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I couldn't care less. As long as Steve Hackett is doing what he's doing so brilliantly, these three are irrelevant. ------------- A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life. |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: May 02 2021 at 14:00
OMG! So brutal!
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Posted By: Plasmoid33&1/3
Date Posted: May 03 2021 at 12:02
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I will pass on this blatant money grab. |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: May 03 2021 at 12:21
Hi, I'm not sure that this is right ... if it was you and your songs, you might enjoy a chance to do it one more time before you know you can't. But, SH has been excellent all of his solo career, and it is sad that GENESIS did not make a stronger effort to keep him, and add some of his material ... I imagine they thought he was not writing "GENESIS material", and that his songs did not "fit" the idea of the band ... which is kinda short sighted and a very weak idea in the first place! I don't consider the three "irrelevant", and I will at least respect their right and abilities even if they might not have it as strong as they once were ... but sadly, even though they are taking with them two folks that know their music well ... I find it sad in some ways ... I think I will send a couple of bottles of Geritol back stage ... but I doubt that I will even try to see any of the shows. SH gets played, by the way, a lot on Guy Guden's Space Pirate Radio and he even has a very nice ID for the show ... in many ways, he cared for the folks playing his music ... after a while I don't think that GENESIS cared anymore and just took the money ... what the heck ... it was flowing like water on a river! ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: September 20 2021 at 04:52
| Off to see the band later tonight in Birmingham. All the Nah Sayers not going are going to be annoyed when they play Cinema Show, Dancing With the Moonlit Knight and Firth of Fifth. Well I'm hoping! |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 20 2021 at 04:54
you might hear the Cinema Show solo if they are doing the In the Cage medley. They did that in 2007.
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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: September 20 2021 at 10:35
Have a great time, Richard, and give us a report! ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time! |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: September 20 2021 at 12:08
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I would be interested to see the NicCollins behind the kit, the PBS special Last Domino special he plays really well in all that rehearsal footage. The band overall sounded really good I thought. -------------
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: September 20 2021 at 13:22
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I saw them in 1976 at the Ford Auditorium in Detroit and then again in 1977 at the Masonic (with Bruford and then Chester). I see no reason to sully those memories with this geriatric nonsense. ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: September 22 2021 at 00:52
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Nic was great behind the kit and probably one of the best drummers I've seen live . Totally nailed everything. Phil was not in the greatest of health as we know but he got through the gig and the warmth of the crowd helped enormously. The emphasis was on the 'hits' but funnily enough I did enjoy Mama and We Can't Dance. Those songs take on a life of their own live. The prog stuff included the instrumental parts of Cinema Show and Firth of Fifth as well opening with Duke's Travels/Duke's End/Turn It On Again. They also did I know What I Like and Afterglow and the audience enjoyed a singalong at the end to Carpet Crawlers. Yeah it was a good night and just nice to get out! |
Posted By: Rick1
Date Posted: September 22 2021 at 03:37
| ^Good to hear!! |
Posted By: Ronstein
Date Posted: September 22 2021 at 04:16
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Meanwhile, we were at the second of Steve Hackett's three night residency at the London Palladium, which was awesome. Short first half with Amanda Lehman as additional guitarist (and vocalist on 'Shadow of the Hierophant). Long second half consisted of the entire 'Seconds Out' album with an encore of 'Dance on a Volcano'. Spectacular musicianship all round (with Jonas Reingold on bass)
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