Pop/Punk rock drummers
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Topic: Pop/Punk rock drummers
Posted By: Blacksword
Subject: Pop/Punk rock drummers
Date Posted: March 25 2021 at 05:48
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Copeland removed. He won the first round..shall we say...not that there will be rounds. So who now? ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: March 25 2021 at 05:48
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I'm still pondering on my choice.. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: March 25 2021 at 05:54
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Stewart Copeland easily from that list. Take him out of the equation and it becomes a far harder question for me to answer, though. 🤔 ------------- https://tinyurl.com/nickhnz-tpa" rel="nofollow - Reviewer for The Progressive Aspect |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: March 25 2021 at 07:16
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Stewart Copeland actually was a drummer in Prog (with Curved Air). and what hardly anyone knows: his band "The Police" was originally named "Strontium 90" and has a Gong connection. in Strontium 90 Sting played rhythm guitar; the bass was played by Mike Howlett of Gong. Andy Summers and Stewart Copeland were the other two members. they played at the Gong festival at the Hippodrome in Paris on May 28th 1977 (where the live album "Gong est Mort - Vive Gong" was recorded) -------------  A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: March 25 2021 at 07:22
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Budgie IS hard rock! -------------  https://rateyourmusic.com/~siLLy_puPPy |
Posted By: Argo2112
Date Posted: March 25 2021 at 07:24
| From the list Copeland for sure. The problem with judging drummers from the 80's is so much of the music was streamlined by producers, song writers or the band it self it seams like drummers didn't really get the chance to showcase their talents the way they could in the 60's & 70's. (At least in pop/ new wave circles) |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: March 25 2021 at 07:24
 well, it seems there is a drummer named Budgie.
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siLLy puPPy wrote:Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: March 25 2021 at 07:37
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Copeland from the list. Others Dave Houghton - Joe Jackson Michael Urbano - Smash Mouth, Todd Rundgren Manu Katche - Peter Gabriel, Sting |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: March 25 2021 at 07:37
Yes, true. I probably should have left him off the list. He's probably the mst technically skilled musician out of that lot too. It may be a landslide. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: March 25 2021 at 09:31
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Copeland is a musical beast, easily the choice here. And yea he was in a prog band before The Police......You could always do anther poll!! -------------   
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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: March 25 2021 at 14:35
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When it comes to best drummers outside of metal / rock / prog, you must head straight to jazz of course. Art Blakey, Buddy Rich, Max Roach, Gene Krupa, Billy Cobham, Billy Higgins, ELvin Jones and too many more to list. ------------- https://rateyourmusic.com/~siLLy_puPPy |
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: March 25 2021 at 15:28
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: March 25 2021 at 16:12
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I was hoping there would be jazz drummers here. Copeland is the easy choice. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: March 25 2021 at 16:13
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^ the option for OTHER opens the door for suggestions. ------------- https://rateyourmusic.com/~siLLy_puPPy |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: March 25 2021 at 16:42
Dang it.......I missed the other option, my choice would have been Art Blakey hands down!! -------------
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Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: March 25 2021 at 16:42
The OP makes it clear that this is not about jazz drummers. That is why there are no jazz drummers there. ------------- https://tinyurl.com/nickhnz-tpa" rel="nofollow - Reviewer for The Progressive Aspect |
Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: March 25 2021 at 16:47
I think the problem, as is often the case in polls, is that not enough care is put into the title of the poll. I have seen many polls where the question asked is not answered as intended, but that is because the question is asked in the OP, and the title is ambiguous or misleading. If the heading said “Pop and Punk Drummers”, rather than “Non prog/metal/hard rock drummers”, then you likely wouldn’t have people going on about jazz drummers. You’d still get some, just because some people here never pay any attention to anything except the poll options, and if they don’t see who or what they want to see, they will post it. Chances are most of the people who vote other in this poll aren’t voting for an other pop or punk drummer, but an other drummer that isn’t actually an appropriate answer to the question posed. It is what it is. ------------- https://tinyurl.com/nickhnz-tpa" rel="nofollow - Reviewer for The Progressive Aspect |
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: March 25 2021 at 17:29
^Well said. Maybe it's only me who has an issue with those who do not pay attention. It is what it is. 
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: March 25 2021 at 18:00
Actually, The Police's original line-up had Henry Padovani on guitar, and that predates Strontium 90, which happened later in the Spring of '77. That's when Andy Summers showed up. (The original single of "Fall Out" featured Padovani on guitar.) After Strontium 90 (more a project than a band) ceased activity, The Police resumed, but Summers wanted the band to remain a trio. After a couple gigs as a quartet, Sting and Copeland let Padovani go, because they knew Summers was their guy, and he wasn't going to stick around if they were a quartet. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: March 25 2021 at 18:03
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I've no choice but to vote for Stewart Copeland. The guy's only one of the best rock drummers that's ever happened! ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: March 25 2021 at 18:06
It's a landslide, but Steve Jansen's awesome, too. Check this out. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: March 25 2021 at 18:07
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Just to break up the party I'm going with Paul Ferguson. ------------- This message was brought to you by a proud supporter of the Deep State. |
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: March 25 2021 at 19:31
No it doesn't. The OP is Non prog/metal/hard rock drummersTo the best of my knowledge jazz is neither prog, metal or hard rock Jazz-fusion is not pure jazz ------------- https://rateyourmusic.com/~siLLy_puPPy |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: March 25 2021 at 21:13
I'm not questioning why there aren't jazz drummers here. I posed no question in my first post. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: March 26 2021 at 01:27
OP means Opening Post. If you actually read the OP, you will see it is clear that this is not about jazz drummers. It specifically talks about pop and punk drummers. I’m not even sure why you put the “jazz-fusion is not pure jazz” part! 😄 ------------- https://tinyurl.com/nickhnz-tpa" rel="nofollow - Reviewer for The Progressive Aspect |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: March 26 2021 at 02:34
Point taken, but if I were to include jazz drummers, they would romp home in the poll, and the pop/punk drummers wouldn't stand a chance. It's hard enough with the inclusion of Copeland Why not start a separate thread for jazz drummers. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: March 26 2021 at 03:21
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^ I think it’s a great idea for a poll. It’s just a shame that it’s been “hijacked” by jazz drummer discussion. It’s par for the course in the polls of this forum though. Time after time after time after time, I see people voting for something contrary to the OP. A recent example was asking which album of the ‘80s was most anticipated, but unfortunately the question was asked only in the OP. Like this poll, the heading didn’t make it clear what was being asked, and so the actual question asked was never actually answered. Instead, people were just voting for their favourite album, rather than how they felt before the albums were released. Unfortunately, from this selection, I think Stewart Copeland was always going to be a runaway winner. As per my first comment under this poll, take Copeland out of the equation, and the question becomes a LOT more difficult to easily answer. Perhaps it might be an interesting idea to put up this poll again, without Copeland, and with a title “Best pop/punk drummer”? 🤔🤷🏻♂️ ------------- https://tinyurl.com/nickhnz-tpa" rel="nofollow - Reviewer for The Progressive Aspect |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: March 26 2021 at 04:25
Indeed. Great drummer, involved in a number of great projects. Jansen/Barberi' Stone to Flesh is a great album too. Love Bestial Cluster. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: March 26 2021 at 04:27
I removed Copeland from the choices.. I voted for Terry Chambers, but that's fairly interchangeable with Steve Jansen and Budgie IMO. I watching a YT clip of Topper Headon demonstrating a Roland electronic kit the the other day. I was surprised at how good he sounded tbh. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: March 26 2021 at 04:46
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I would never call Killing Joke pop/punk, the are industrial metal, punk, new wave, post punk, alternative metal -------------  
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: March 26 2021 at 04:57
Same could be said for The Cure and Souxsie I guess, but please don't start! ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: March 26 2021 at 05:08
i Voted Paul Ferguson btw, but the most underrated and most influentual member of Killing Joke whom is not mentioned enough is Martin 'Gordie' Walker, the most underrated and influentual rythem guitar player of the 80s equal with the Edge, highly identifiable and unique guitar sound and style, he have never played a guitar solo on any of their 26th or more releases, he keeps it to the chugging -------------
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: March 26 2021 at 05:13
KJ are a great band, and I agree about Geordie. One of my favourte KJ albums is actually What's this For. I love the rhythmic brutality of it. Night Time was also an excellent album, with a great performance from Geordie. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: March 26 2021 at 05:19
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I will also vote for Warran Can of Ultravox and i will lett wikipedia to sa it for me why. " 1978 when Ultravox released the Systems of Romance album, Cann's style of drumming turned away from its rock roots and toward what was becoming the New Wave sound. He endeavoured to have extremely precise timing; this would make the songs with live drums match songs driven by electronic, programmed percussion. For an example of this, compare the song "Sleepwalk", where Cann plays live drums, to "Mr. X", where the drums are sequenced. Both of these tracks can be found on Vienna. Despite his machine-like timing, Cann would often do things that neither drum machines nor electronically sequenced percussion could do at the time. Specifically, he would often play very precise triplet fills and crescendos, especially on the snare drum. While these two techniques are easily accomplished by electronic instruments today, around 1979–1982 they were virtually impossible. In essence, it could fool the listeners to believe they were hearing a drum machine, only to prove them wrong through out-performing the rather rudimentary sequencing possibilities of the time". 000000 -------------
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Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: March 26 2021 at 05:43
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Other. Travis Barker. ------------- “On the day of my creation, I fell in love with education. And overcoming all frustration, a teacher I became.” — Ernest Vong |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: March 26 2021 at 05:49
| Terry Chambers, his drumming on Black Sea and English Settlement is superb and he formed one of the great rhythm sections with Colin Moulding. XTC lost something when he left. |
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: March 26 2021 at 06:57
Now that someone has changed the title it's clear but it wasn't when i first posted ------------- https://rateyourmusic.com/~siLLy_puPPy |
Posted By: Crane
Date Posted: March 26 2021 at 06:58
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Topper Headon, one of my biggest influences as a drummer and (I suppose) very underrated. ------------- “Art is the recognition of the universal presence of God.” —Ernest Hello |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: March 26 2021 at 07:09
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Bill Bruford. ------------- This message was brought to you by a proud supporter of the Deep State. |
Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: March 26 2021 at 07:46
It was. As you point out, the title was changed. I stated that the OP made it clear what the poll was asking. You stated it didn’t, and quoted the title (not the OP). I never said that the poll was clear by the title. In fact, in another comment I said that the reason the question wasn’t being answered as intended was because the title didn’t make it clear. But the OP did, if anyone bothered to read it. (Which, it seems, most didn’t.) ------------- https://tinyurl.com/nickhnz-tpa" rel="nofollow - Reviewer for The Progressive Aspect |
Posted By: Heart of the Matter
Date Posted: March 26 2021 at 07:58
| Assumming that new-wave drummers are welcomed here, what about Martin Chambers from The Pretenders? |
Posted By: Progishness
Date Posted: March 26 2021 at 08:09
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Poll makes no sense now that Stuart Copeland's name has been removed. ------------- "We're going to need a bigger swear jar." Chloë Grace Moretz as Mindy McCready aka 'Hit Girl' in Kick-Ass 2 |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: March 26 2021 at 08:20
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: March 26 2021 at 08:34
why?
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: March 26 2021 at 08:36
Good choice. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: March 26 2021 at 08:40
I shouldn't have included him to start with. It was always going to be a landslide, and he had effectively won. So, Itought removing him would make it less of a no brainer. His inclusion was a bit like pitting Neil Peart against Bill Ward in the same poll. No disprespect to Bill, of course, but people voted Copeland on his obvious technical skill, no whether they preferred the Police to the bands the other drummers were in. It was also pointed out that Copeland was historically a prog drummer. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: March 26 2021 at 08:45
There was no OP. Whatever you're talking about wasn't visible on my end. I don't know what happened but i promise i read everything before responding. But whatever. I think it's all clear now :) ------------- https://rateyourmusic.com/~siLLy_puPPy |
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: March 26 2021 at 10:43
^ Here was the original OP.
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Posted By: Progishness
Date Posted: March 26 2021 at 11:39
Maybe be an idea to have a rethink and post a fresh poll on this theme. Might also be interesting to do similar polls for pop/punk guitarists, bass players & keyboard players. ------------- "We're going to need a bigger swear jar." Chloë Grace Moretz as Mindy McCready aka 'Hit Girl' in Kick-Ass 2 |
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: March 26 2021 at 15:44
Where did it go? I never saw that. This thread is too confusing. I'll just opt out :) I do love both pop and punk though but don't equate excellent drummers with those styles. ------------- https://rateyourmusic.com/~siLLy_puPPy |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: March 26 2021 at 15:50
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I'm going with the blank space that has 8 votes. ------------- This message was brought to you by a proud supporter of the Deep State. |
Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: March 27 2021 at 06:05
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Now that Copeland has been taken out of the equation, I can give my vote to the excellent Budgie of Siouxsie and the Banshees (he was also married to Siouxsie for over 15 years). Anyone interested in his skills should also check out Budgie and Siouxsie's side project, The Creatures, which focuses on vocals and percussion. |
Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: March 27 2021 at 07:11
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If I hadn’t already voted, I’d go for Roger Taylor, because I love a lot of what he did with Duran Duran. Often his drumming was integral to the song. This is by no means anywhere near my favourite DD song, nor the best example of Taylor’s drumming, but it’s a music video based around Shakespeare and zombies. What more could you ask for? 😜🧟🧟♀️🧟♂️ ------------- https://tinyurl.com/nickhnz-tpa" rel="nofollow - Reviewer for The Progressive Aspect |
Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: April 13 2021 at 15:07
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Budgie - Siouxsie & the Banshees ------------- Friedrich Nietzsche: "Without music, life would be a mistake." Music Is Live Two people are better off than one, for they can help each other succeed. Keep Calm And Listen To The Music… < |
Posted By: Heart of the Matter
Date Posted: April 13 2021 at 15:59
Was that Stewart? |
Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: April 13 2021 at 17:28
My vote would have been Cann. ------------- I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth. |
Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: April 13 2021 at 20:56
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I’ll give a belated vote to Topper Headon. ------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |