Ian Anderson Announces New Jethro Tull Album
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Topic: Ian Anderson Announces New Jethro Tull Album
Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Subject: Ian Anderson Announces New Jethro Tull Album
Date Posted: March 20 2021 at 05:43
https://ultimateclassicrock.com/jethro-tull-new-album-lyric-book/
The Zealot Gene is the title
All I have to say to this is: please be good, please be good, please be good....
Discus! Personally, i'm not going to get my hopes up, but I really hope that this album is a genuinely good late career release that many of us can at least get behind musically.
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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: March 20 2021 at 06:13
I'm sure it won't be as good as Thick as a Brick.
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Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: March 20 2021 at 06:35
To be honest, i'd be happy if its as good as A or Broadsword haha. I don't anticipate getting a Blackstar out of this but i'll take what I can get.
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Posted By: omphaloskepsis
Date Posted: March 20 2021 at 06:40
dougmcauliffe wrote:
To be honest, i'd be happy if its as good as A or Broadsword haha. I don't anticipate getting a Blackstar out of this but i'll take what I can get. |
I'd be delirious too.
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Posted By: JD
Date Posted: March 20 2021 at 07:53
Why the amazement? Most of his 'solo' albums have quite good ratings. I personally think that Thick As A Brick 2 and Homo Erraticus are excellent albums. I mean, I always hope that new releases maintain or elevate an artist's catalogue. Sometimes they deliver and sometimes they don't. Ian has a pretty good record (no pun intended) on this front. http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=37237" rel="nofollow -
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: March 20 2021 at 08:17
This album has been in the works for more than two years. I certainly hope it's qualty reflects that. Btw, Aqualung was released 50 years ago yesterday.
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Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: March 20 2021 at 08:20
Yeah apparently they started it in 2017 actually ^ stakes are high eh?
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: March 20 2021 at 08:34
Yup, I would say so. Still can't imagine Tull without Martin Barre, but that's another story.
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: March 20 2021 at 08:37
Oh, and the album was shelved one year due to the pandemic, but still they took enough time to make it.
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: March 20 2021 at 09:14
Posted By: Heart of the Matter
Date Posted: March 20 2021 at 09:36
"Former Jethro Tull guitarist Martin Barre described Ian Anderson’s decision to split the band in 2012 as his “worst mistake” and added that even a one-off reunion would be “difficult” for him.
Read More: https://ultimateclassicrock.com/martin-barre-jethro-tull-split/" rel="nofollow - https://ultimateclassicrock.com/martin-barre-jethro-tull-split/
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: March 20 2021 at 09:51
I don't know what to think of this news.
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: March 20 2021 at 11:43
It was time for Ian Anderson to hang it up a decade ago, at least vocally. Instrumentally, I'd love an album without the painful chore of listening to the agonizing gasps and wheezes. Please and thank you.
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: March 20 2021 at 11:49
I take it this will be with the current lineup(ie his solo backing band)?
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: March 20 2021 at 13:45
Haven't been enamored with the latest stuff of his, but ill of course give this one a try. Glad to see this finally come out at any rate.
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Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: March 20 2021 at 13:57
I just wonder if Steven Wilson could possibly be behind the mixing table. At the very least, that would be very nice since his (Ians) latest output the drumming in particular sounds like its to a metronome and SW would possibly be able to add that awesome earthy texture we love about Tulls best records.
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: March 20 2021 at 14:08
True, as Wilson's wife isn't involved.
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: March 20 2021 at 14:54
SteveG wrote:
Yup, I would say so. Still can't imagine Tull without Martin Barre, but that's another story. |
I agree...it's not Tull without at least Martin Barre and the last real Tull with the classic players was Stormwatch. Though I have most of the rest and a few are decent ,none have that great 'Tull sound' imho. I have no expectations that this 'Tull' album will be very good when it comes to the classic sound.
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Posted By: BarryGlibb
Date Posted: March 20 2021 at 19:22
Anderson's ego will prevent him from not singing, as seen on that terrible String Quartet release. He cannot accept that his vocals detract from anything he releases. For God sakes man, release an instrumental "Tull" album before you leave this Earth!...Oh, and ask Martin (on bended knee) to come back for one last Tull album before "signing off".
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: March 20 2021 at 22:40
BarryGlibb wrote:
Anderson's ego will prevent him from not singing, as seen on that terrible String Quartet release. He cannot accept that his vocals detract from anything he releases. For God sakes man, release an instrumental "Tull" album before you leave this Earth!...Oh, and ask Martin (on bended knee) to come back for one last Tull album before "signing off".
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Hi,
I don't think he has to "sing", and he could end up simply doing some poetry and add some words here and there in a normal voice that might make it easier for him to say something.
I kinda think that this new album might be a bit more "instrumental", and less about the songs and the lyrics as has been the case in the past.
But, honestly, like many of the "big 5" and other bands, it is time for them to call it a night and not be thought of as all of a sudden being poor in their abilities and indulgences. I keep thinking that the last thing I would like to see is a sad old man trying to sing yet again ... and sounding terrible and not being able to adjust to different vocal styles and details for the sake of another stupid rock song!
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: March 21 2021 at 05:08
Presumably a commercial decision rather than an artistic one. It's not as if his solo albums show a massive change of direction away from Tull
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Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: March 21 2021 at 05:50
^ Absolutely. It’s definitely more a marketing tool than anything else. I doubt the name indicates any difference in the style of what has been released under Anderson’s name in recent years.
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Posted By: deafmoon
Date Posted: March 21 2021 at 06:49
I saw them a couple years back. No thank you. I will remain faithful to their albums through Barriemore Barlow's tenure with the band. After that, there is very little to write home about and believe me I've tried.
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: March 21 2021 at 08:38
dr wu23 wrote:
SteveG wrote:
Yup, I would say so. Still can't imagine Tull without Martin Barre, but that's another story. |
I agree...it's not Tull without at least Martin Barre and the last real Tull with the classic players was Stormwatch. Though I have most of the rest and a few are decent ,none have that great 'Tull sound' imho. I have no expectations that this 'Tull' album will be very good when it comes to the classic sound. | Fortunately for me, I'm not a lover of nostalgia as it's contrary to being progressive, but I don't see Ian coming up with something new because he is in Tull nostalgia mode, his last concerts featuring Tull's greatest hits exclusively..
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Posted By: Mudpuppy64
Date Posted: March 21 2021 at 08:45
Tull is my favorite Band . But it looks like its going to be an other politics based Album . And ive had enough of that crap , So ill Pass on this one .
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: March 21 2021 at 08:47
Mudpuppy64 wrote:
Tull is my favorite Band . But it looks like its going to be an other politics based Album . And ive had enough of that crap , So ill Pass on this one .
| I didn't know that. Ian is a great wordsmith, so it will at least garner one listen from me. But perhaps only one.
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Posted By: Intruder
Date Posted: March 21 2021 at 08:53
Stormwatch is where I get off the Tull boat - though not a bad record, it set the precedent for future expectations for Tull albums. After that it's all Ian to me.
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Posted By: stegor
Date Posted: March 21 2021 at 09:28
Intruder wrote:
Stormwatch is where I get off the Tull boat - though not a bad record, it set the precedent for future expectations for Tull albums. After that it's all Ian to me. |
I always felt Ian thought he was more important than he was. At least prior lineup changes were gradual and the replacements were perfect. It was tough to replace Jeffrey but Glasscock met the challenge very well. But when he completely broke up the band it was the end of Tull. Tull was the sum of the parts - not just Ian or Ian and Martin. I was a huge fan of the band, not just of Ian. Everything after Stormwatch is an Ian Anderson solo album to me.
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: March 21 2021 at 09:43
stegor wrote:
Intruder wrote:
Stormwatch is where I get off the Tull boat - though not a bad record, it set the precedent for future expectations for Tull albums. After that it's all Ian to me. |
I always felt Ian thought he was more important than he was. At least prior lineup changes were gradual and the replacements were perfect. It was tough to replace Jeffrey but Glasscock met the challenge very well. But when he completely broke up the band it was the end of Tull. Tull was the sum of the parts - not just Ian or Ian and Martin. I was a huge fan of the band, not just of Ian. Everything after Stormwatch is an Ian Anderson solo album to me.
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: March 21 2021 at 09:46
But I would say that Roots to Branches had a group dynamic to it, but I understand why some think it doesn't.
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Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: March 21 2021 at 10:20
Personally, I actually think A and Broadsword are still really solid albums, but I understand that there’s a shift in tone and sound after Stormwatch
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: March 21 2021 at 10:28
dougmcauliffe wrote:
Personally, l actually think A and Broadsword are still really solid albums, but I understand that there’s a shift in tone and sound after Stormwatch | On reflection, I would say that those two albums also had a group dynamic as well as Krest of a Knave. Perhaps that's why they stand out.
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Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: March 21 2021 at 11:24
He has been trying to call his backup band Jethro Tull for years, even referring to them as the Jethro Tull Band. The name is a marketing ploy if there is no Martin, but since I have enjoyed all his solo records, it stands to be a pretty decent album. I would like to see a greater emphasis on instrumentality but know it won't be all instrumental.
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: March 21 2021 at 11:59
Let's not kid ourselves. As old Tull fans we're all going to buy it.
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Posted By: Intruder
Date Posted: March 21 2021 at 12:12
Or at least borrow a copy from the library or from a Tull-headed friend.
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: March 21 2021 at 12:13
Ok, make that almost all if us.
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Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: March 21 2021 at 12:17
Yeah like at the end of the day, i'm going to pick up a copy whatever the case is honestly. Nothing brings me more joy than funneling my money into Jethro Tull records, CDs, and merch
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: March 21 2021 at 12:19
I said "old Tull fans" so you're exampt.
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: March 21 2021 at 12:52
I'm an old Tull fan and I guarantee I won't be buying it.
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: March 21 2021 at 12:53
dr wu23 wrote:
I'm an old Tull fan and I guarantee I won't be buying it. | yes you will. How will you agrgue that it's not as good as some 60s Tull album if you don't own it?
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: March 21 2021 at 13:32
SteveG wrote:
dr wu23 wrote:
I'm an old Tull fan and I guarantee I won't be buying it. | yes you will. How will you agrgue that it's not as good as some 60s Tull album if you don't own it? |
Come on Steve...you and I both know it will be mediocre stuff....and besides someone will put it on you tube for free to hear.
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Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: March 21 2021 at 13:55
I’m old, but not an old Tull fan. I like a few Tull albums, but certainly not as much as some do; and nor do I like all the albums that most seem to. But I did quite enjoy Homo Erraticus. So if it’s similar to that, I might go for it. 🤷🏻♂️But it will be well down my “to purchase list”, which is already rather large.... 😄🤪
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: March 21 2021 at 15:15
dr wu23 wrote:
SteveG wrote:
dr wu23 wrote:
I'm an old Tull fan and I guarantee I won't be buying it. | yes you will. How will you agrgue that it's not as good as some 60s Tull album if you don't own it? |
Come on Steve...you and I both know it will be mediocre stuff....and besides someone will put it on you tube for free to hear.
| That's certainly true about it ending up on YT but I'm not sure that's a great way to experience the music, in other words, through PC speakers. But for some, it's the cheapest option, I suppose.
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: March 21 2021 at 15:39
SteveG wrote:
dr wu23 wrote:
SteveG wrote:
dr wu23 wrote:
I'm an old Tull fan and I guarantee I won't be buying it. | yes you will. How will you agrgue that it's not as good as some 60s Tull album if you don't own it? |
Come on Steve...you and I both know it will be mediocre stuff....and besides someone will put it on you tube for free to hear.
| That's certainly true about it ending up on YT but I'm not sure that's a great way to experience the music, in other words, through PC speakers. But for some, it's the cheapest option, I suppose. |
Well...I plug my Shure headphones into the laptop jack and it sounds as good as my expensive tower speakers most of the time.
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Posted By: Neu!mann
Date Posted: March 21 2021 at 16:23
Ian turns 74 this year...I think it's safe to say he's Too Old to Rock 'n' Roll now, and has been for some time.
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: March 21 2021 at 16:31
dr wu23 wrote:
SteveG wrote:
dr wu23 wrote:
SteveG wrote:
dr wu23 wrote:
I'm an old Tull fan and I guarantee I won't be buying it. | yes you will. How will you agrgue that it's not as good as some 60s Tull album if you don't own it? |
Come on Steve...you and I both know it will be mediocre stuff....and besides someone will put it on you tube for free to hear.
| That's certainly true about it ending up on YT but I'm not sure that's a great way to experience the music, in other words, through PC speakers. But for some, it's the cheapest option, I suppose. |
Well...I plug my Shure headphones into the laptop jack and it sounds as good as my expensive tower speakers most of the time. | Never tell a recording engineer that headphones sound as good as speakers as the room you're listening in is responsible for half of the sound dynamics. But that's a another discussion I'm afraid.
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Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: March 23 2021 at 07:35
SteveG wrote:
Yup, I would say so. Still can't imagine Tull without Martin Barre, but that's another story. |
That's exactly how I feel. Without Marin, it will be just another Ian Anderson project. Not that is something bad, but it will miss the excellent input of Martin Barre, and his amazing guitar playing.
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Posted By: SMSM
Date Posted: April 06 2021 at 13:35
Personally, if stated, I have no problem with artists using vocal enhancements/assistance technology for those in their senior citizen years, or had vocal operations etc
What will matter, will be the compositions/songwriting, which has been a let down for Jethro Tull/Ian Anderson for a while
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Posted By: Squonk19
Date Posted: April 06 2021 at 14:27
if Ian is able to choose the correct vocal register and tend to speak his lines in a similar way to the last two studio albums, then I’ll be happy to give it a go..... just don’t ask me to see him live these days. The last tour was painful to watch as I willed him through all those notes.
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: April 07 2021 at 06:15
Squonk19 wrote:
if Ian is able to choose the correct vocal register and tend to speak his lines in a similar way to the last two studio albums, then I’ll be happy to give it a go..... just don’t ask me to see him live these days. The last tour was painful to watch as I willed him through all those notes. |
Agree 100%. It's certainly a true life case of being too old to rock and roll...
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: April 07 2021 at 09:47
SteveG wrote:
Squonk19 wrote:
if Ian is able to choose the correct vocal register and tend to speak his lines in a similar way to the last two studio albums, then I’ll be happy to give it a go..... just don’t ask me to see him live these days. The last tour was painful to watch as I willed him through all those notes. |
Agree 100%. It's certainly a true life case of being too old to rock and roll... |
Yes..he's 73 years old and one wonders what he needs to prove at this point or if he needs the money...? Maybe he can call the lp...Too Old To Rock & Roll-Part 2 ?
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: April 07 2021 at 09:51
dr wu23 wrote:
SteveG wrote:
Squonk19 wrote:
if Ian is able to choose the correct vocal register and tend to speak his lines in a similar way to the last two studio albums, then I’ll be happy to give it a go..... just don’t ask me to see him live these days. The last tour was painful to watch as I willed him through all those notes. |
Agree 100%. It's certainly a true life case of being too old to rock and roll... |
Yes..he's 73 years old and one wonders what he needs to prove at this point or if he needs the money...? Maybe he can call the lp...Too Old To Rock & Roll-Part 2 ?
| He should really be up to Part 4 by now!
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Posted By: RaphaelT
Date Posted: April 11 2021 at 07:56
The last two Ian's solo albums were co-sung by Ryan O'Donnell. Which was good idea. The absence of the young singer struck me the most during the 50th Anniversary of Jethro Tull tour (really, singing done by the screen? Tull were too great of a band to deserve that). The presence of the younger singer on the new album seems necessary. I don't know if it is going to be mr O'Donnell or some other guy.
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