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Topic: Best Helping Cover
Posted By: Heart of the Matter
Subject: Best Helping Cover
Date Posted: March 07 2021 at 17:06
Please, comment on your choice!














































Please, comment on your choice!

















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Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: March 07 2021 at 17:11
Lots of good and great ones. Went with Who's Next.


Posted By: JD
Date Posted: March 07 2021 at 17:55
That's a tough question since people usually, but not always, hear an album before they see it.
However, I will freely admit to having bought an unheard of band because of either its cover or the listed instruments (lots of keyboards) or possibly cover songs that might be on the album.

I'll go with King Crimson on this one because it comes from a time when perusing record stores and buying albums just on a cover was way more likely. And this one would definitely make you stop to check it out.


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Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: March 07 2021 at 18:03
St Pepper or Dark Side probably.


Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: March 07 2021 at 18:07
ITCOTCK. Perfectly describes what lies within. 
Other choice would be my avatar or Hero and Heroine by the Strawbs.


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Posted By: iluvmarillion
Date Posted: March 07 2021 at 22:11
Has to be In The Court Of The Crimson King. Sgt. Peppers would have sold by itself and Dark Of The Moon is a great title in it's own right and almost doesn't need a cover.


Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: March 07 2021 at 22:27
Difficult to say really. I've gone for Sgt Pepper as probably the most iconic and one of the first gatefold sleeves and allegedly one of the first to include the lyrics, but as someone said it would have sold anyway even in a plain white cover (!). Maybe ITCOTCK is the one people would be most likely to buy just by seeing the cover (if it didn't scare them off). 


Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: March 08 2021 at 00:26
Emerson, Lake & Palmer

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Posted By: Neo-Romantic
Date Posted: March 08 2021 at 01:22
This is a tough one, but I'm going to say Asia because if you knew nothing about the band, you could be led to expect a fantasy epic/conceptual narrative with a cover like that.

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Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: March 08 2021 at 02:12
Asia easily wins this for me, as it must surely have been helpful in shifting units, because the music is hardly as inspiring.

I've always loved this cover, from when I first saw it. It conjures up images of music within which, if not vital and vicious, biting and brutal, is at least a little more ferocious than friendly.

Well, that's what I assumed, when it came out, and I was still young and unknowledgeable. I wasn't sure who Asia were, and so I asked a friend who i knew a lot more about music than I (because he had an older brother who lived and breathed music). That friend told me it was the band who played "Heat of the Moment" - and in an instant, all my dreams were shattered.

I never bothered attempting to listen to the album, or any other Asia album which followed, because HotM was so not to my taste.

I listened to the album for the first time ever only recently. HotM still does nothing for me. It's just so insipid, uninspired and uninspiring. Worse now, for me, it sounds horribly dated. It oozes '80s, and not in a good way. I love much of the '80s (heck, I love Duran Duran!), but this just sounds even cheesier and cornier now than it did at the time.

I far prefer the version played on Steve Hackett's "Tokyo Tapes". Still not entirely to my taste, but a lot more enjoyable than this. I should probably have skipped this track, and started from track two, but I thought I ought to give the album a proper chance, and listen from the beginning.

But that second track? Aw man, it just sounds like a slightly more upbeat HotM. I'm guessing (though I've never heard this before) that this was another track made for the radio, and possibly released as a single. Thankfully, as I write this, the song is fading out.

And this, "Sole Survivor", is where I should have started listening to the album, I guess. The opening seconds are more enjoyable than anything else so far, and already the music sounds more like I imagined Asia to sound - albeit, still nowhere near as ferocious.

It's still a very radio-friendly song, but doesn't sound anywhere near as dated, nor as cheesy. The middle (approx 2.30 to 3.30) is actually quite good, with some beautiful guitar, and then drums, before the song kicks back in.

"One Step Closer" is again a track that surprised me by not turning me off. Two tracks in a row with more impressive instrumental opening passages, than I might have expected. Going by the album so far, HotM (and OTWT, if it too was released as a single, as I suspect it may have been), somewhat misrepresent the album as a whole. 

There's definitely no doubting the musicianship of any involved (obviously, given their pedigree), and the instrumental passages tend to be good. Now if this song had been played on the radio (rather than HotM), I maybe, perhaps, might have purchased the album. It sounds to me like a single, but it's nowhere near as cheesy '80s in your face pop as HotM.

And now "Time Again", which is actually  a groovy wee beastie. Again, far more what I would expect to hear from the Asia of the cover, than the first two songs. And again, the middle instrumental passage is pretty good. This is my favourite song so far, relatively speaking. (Yeah, I’m damning it with faint praise.)

"Wildest Dreams" and “Without You" are also enjoyable enough. The drums in “Without You” really carry the song, where otherwise it might almost drag. And then we’re back where we started, with the first song since the opening salvo, that I'm not really enjoying at all - though, for what it’s worth, it's still better than both those opening tracks. I guess it's not so much that it’s bad, so much as it just does not sound particularly good. The album ends on an alright “Here Comes the Feeling". Here comes the feeling that at last the album is ending, and I’ll probably never listen to it again.

Asia is a prime example to me of marketing that doesn’t match the end product. The cover art promises so much. The contents deliver so little.



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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: March 08 2021 at 04:02
Roger Dean's artwork for Asia's first album is the most appealing to me, which goes some way to explaining why it's the only album in the poll that I bought on the original vinyl. Smile


Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: March 08 2021 at 06:41
Of this list, In The Court of the Crimson King, but my absolute favorite cover for a record is Jetrho Tull's Stand Up. I bought it because the cover told me the music was great, which it was, and helped me discover a great band.


Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: March 08 2021 at 06:41
Court of the Crimson King and I-Robot would be my picks here

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Posted By: Heart of the Matter
Date Posted: March 08 2021 at 06:50
Originally posted by Manuel Manuel wrote:

Of this list, In The Court of the Crimson King, but my absolute favorite cover for a record is Jetrho Tull's Stand Up. I bought it because the cover told me the music was great, which it was, and helped me discover a great band.


Stand Up's cover rules. (A miss in my list)



Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: March 08 2021 at 07:44
Zeppelin IV has the best story. The band didn't want to have their name or album title anywhere on the cover, not even on the spine of the cover. Record execs lost their minds and claimed it was marketing suicide. The band prevailed. It shipped #1 and eventually sold over 23 million copies.

I would suggest The Mothers' We're Only In It For the Money sold many albums due to the hilarious album cover parody of Sgt. Peppers.


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Posted By: Heart of the Matter
Date Posted: March 08 2021 at 08:01


Posted By: Gentle and Giant
Date Posted: March 08 2021 at 09:08
Rush - A farewell to Kings floats my boat.

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Posted By: Earl of Mar
Date Posted: March 08 2021 at 09:21
I voted for DSOTM not because it's my favourite here but because the album cover seemed to have a life of it's own. It became so synonymous with the band and so big it seemed to be an entity on it's own.

My picks here would be
Styx
Genesis
Rush

In no particular order.


Posted By: Heart of the Matter
Date Posted: March 08 2021 at 09:43
Originally posted by tszirmay tszirmay wrote:

ITCOTCK. Perfectly describes what lies within. 
Other choice would be my avatar or Hero and Heroine by the Strawbs.




Posted By: A Crimson Mellotron
Date Posted: March 08 2021 at 09:48
ITCOTCK for me


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: March 08 2021 at 10:00
^^ I've had the Strawbs' Hero & Heroine album on CD for years, but I didn't realise it was a dove on the cover  until just now when you blew it up to full size.  Embarrassed

It just goes to show that you can't beat the old 12-inch vinyl album covers for impressive artwork. Smile

Do you remember the mini-discs that were half the size of CD's and never really caught on? Those "album" covers were really tiny. Smile


Posted By: VianaProghead
Date Posted: March 08 2021 at 10:45
Brain Salad Surgery.

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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: March 08 2021 at 12:05
No idea.....the ones I like on the list I heard at the same time I first saw the cover....usually in somone's dorm room or apartment at college or bought it beacuse I had a previous liking of the band.

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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: March 08 2021 at 12:24
If "helped" is the criteria then I'd give it to Asia .   But for me it was the Tarkus and Hemispheres covers that made me want to listen to them and to experience my first prog.



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Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: March 08 2021 at 13:13
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

If "helped" is the criteria then I'd give it to Asia .   But for me it was the Tarkus and Hemispheres covers that made me want to listen to them and to experience my first prog.

I took it that way, which is why I voted for Asia. Personally, KC was the cover that helped me decide which album to buy from that band. I didn’t know a single piece of music from the band, or even have any idea what they sounded like. All I knew was that they were a band that so many bands I loved called an influence, I felt I had to give them a listen. Given the choice of all the albums, that one album cover stood out the most, and that first album by the band was also the first I heard from them. Needless to say, it was not the last.



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Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: March 08 2021 at 13:42
Good topic, Paul! 

Back in the day, I, for one, was driven to try new bands based upon album cover art. It's how I discovered artists like Anthony Phillips, David Sylvian, and the Cocteau Twins (and all early 4 A.D. albums).

Of the ones you've listed here, the only one that I (would've) bought for its album cover is the same one who's album art kept me intrigued and enrapt throughout the end of the 1960s: The Beatles' Sgt. Pepper




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Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: March 08 2021 at 13:57
I have no idea what a "helping cover" is unfortunetely but I voted for KC's debut, because of how iconic it is.

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Posted By: JD
Date Posted: March 08 2021 at 14:20
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

^^ I've had the Strawbs' Hero & Heroine album on CD for years, but I didn't realise it was a dove on the cover  until just now when you blew it up to full size.  Embarrassed

It just goes to show that you can't beat the old 12-inch vinyl album covers for impressive artwork. Smile

Do you remember the mini-discs that were half the size of CD's and never really caught on? Those "album" covers were really tiny. Smile
Then they became 'Files' and disappeared altogether! LOL


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Posted By: Heart of the Matter
Date Posted: March 08 2021 at 14:36
Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

I have no idea what a "helping cover" is unfortunetely but I voted for KC's debut, because of how iconic it is.


I think "help" means in this case that the cover helped the album to reach a wider audience, or contribute enhancing or complementing the music.


Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: March 08 2021 at 19:08
Roxy Music "Country Life"


Posted By: Heart of the Matter
Date Posted: March 08 2021 at 20:33


Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: March 08 2021 at 20:53
I don't know. I'll vote for KC because I think it's the most eye catching. 

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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: March 08 2021 at 21:05
I dunno, when i think of best helping cover i can only think of this!

The Beatles Help! album cover


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Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: March 08 2021 at 21:24
Originally posted by Heart of the Matter Heart of the Matter wrote:


this used to be my avatar. I was forced to either blur it..... or change for something less....offensive .hahaha


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Posted By: Heart of the Matter
Date Posted: March 09 2021 at 06:15
Is there something more offensive than censorship?


Posted By: JD
Date Posted: March 09 2021 at 07:06
I recall there being something about trying to keep things family friendly..but then most of us are probably old farts anyway so unless it's REALLY offensive, why bother. They did the same with Roger Waters Pro and Cons album cover. I'd like to think we're over that stuff now.


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Posted By: Heart of the Matter
Date Posted: March 09 2021 at 07:55
TBH, if I want to keep something out of my family's eyes, then I handle it myself. Waiting for some kind of Big Brother supervision is the lamest attitude in the world.


Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: March 09 2021 at 07:56
Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

I dunno, when i think of best helping cover i can only think of this!

The Beatles Help! album cover
And it doesn't even spell "help".


Posted By: Heart of the Matter
Date Posted: March 09 2021 at 08:02
First "concept" cover, perhaps?


Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: March 09 2021 at 08:32
Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

I recall there being something about trying to keep things family friendly..but then most of us are probably old farts anyway so unless it's REALLY offensive, why bother. They did the same with Roger Waters Pro and Cons album cover. I'd like to think we're over that stuff now.
The censorship was from Google as part of their ad policy. It was not from this site itself.


Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: March 09 2021 at 08:44
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

I dunno, when i think of best helping cover i can only think of this!

The Beatles Help! album cover
And it doesn't even spell "help".


True dat. The intent was to spell out HELP in flag semaphore but the visual artists deemed that it didn't look very good so they changed it to N U J V LOL


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