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Topic: Interactive Poll XXVII: Collaborations Don't WorkPosted By: Meltdowner
Subject: Interactive Poll XXVII: Collaborations Don't Work
Date Posted: March 01 2021 at 17:01
Hello everyone! This edition of the Interactive Poll is dedicated to musical collaborations. Creative efforts between artists/bands are preferred but you can nominate for example a performance with the composer and another artist. Artists listed on PA are allowed.
As always, you can suggest several songs and you'll have to nominate one. When the poll is open you can vote to up to three different songs.
I'll think of my suggestions and further rules (if necessary) tomorrow. I'll leave you with this poll's title track.
Replies: Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: March 01 2021 at 18:34
Question, does the work itself have to state it as a collaboration (such as John Doe with Jane Doe in the name of the "act"), or will, say, a solo or group recording with guest artists be admissible?
------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp
Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: March 01 2021 at 18:56
Here's a collab between me and a bunch of my musically talented friends. :)
------------- “On the day of my creation, I fell in love with education. And overcoming all frustration, a teacher I became.” — Ernest Vong
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: March 01 2021 at 19:19
Cool idea. The first, "Zero Hills", is my nomination, unless I change that.
Haco + Sakamoto Hiromichi - Zero Hills (off the album Ash in the Rainbow)
Pierre Henry and Urban Sax - Gate of Paradise (off Paradise Lost)
Toshiyuki Miyama & His New Herd: Masahiko Sato - Ni (off Yamataifu)
The description at the beginning of the Yamataifu video is messed up (mea culpa, I uploaded that 11 years ago), and to answer a youtube comment for one of my Yamataifu vids, I do know how to count in Japanese.
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: March 02 2021 at 00:33
nice idea, I'll get back to it once i have some songs in mind.
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: March 02 2021 at 01:49
Oh nice, collaborations! ... Nena...! ... In which poll am I...? ... Where...? Wait...
(A remake of Nena's hit from 1984... I'll be back with some serious suggestions...)
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The razamataz is a pain in the bum
Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: March 02 2021 at 12:49
I think I will sit out of this poll and then come back for the next one which, if I remember correctly, I will be in charge of. I still haven't voted in the previous poll, and I hope I can also get some time to do a couple of album reviews.
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: March 02 2021 at 12:53
This is my tribute to Fabrizio De André (poet, singer, songwriter, anarchist)
This song
1) Khorakhané (A Forza di essere vento)
This song was written by Fabrizio de André and Ivano Fossati, and it is sung by Fabrizio De André, apart from the ending, a poem in the Romanesque language by the Sinti poet Giorgio Bezzecchi sung by Dori Ghezzi. Can it go as a collaboration? I hope so.
The song talks about the Sinti of Montenegro, Muslims, exterminated in the Nazi concentration camps.
The title is in the Sinti language, and means "Those who love the Koran", and the part in parentheses means By dint of being wind.
2) "Amico fragile" is written by Fabrizio De André and arranged by PFM.
Live performace is by Fabrizio De André and Pfm
(wonderful performance by Franco Mussida on the guitars)
3) La guerra di Piero (written by Fabrizio De André)
Arranged by Modena City Ramblers, sung by Modena City Ramblers and Piero Pelù.
------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion.
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: March 02 2021 at 14:18
Waaah! We have Nena again!
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: March 02 2021 at 14:25
Here's one, finally, that has my avatar man on it.
It Was a Camel - Jah Wobble, Holger Czukay, Jaki LIebezeit and more collaborators. Sound quality of the video could be better, but that's how it is.
Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: March 02 2021 at 14:27
Really nice suggestions so far
Snicolette wrote:
Question, does the work itself have to state it as a collaboration (such as John Doe with Jane Doe in the name of the "act"), or will, say, a solo or group recording with guest artists be admissible?
If it's a featured guest with enough presence in the song, you can suggest it.
I'll use my suggestion for example:
The song starts at 0:30. I was on the third row, hearing this song live was reason enough to be there.
How sad to relive this, I miss concerts so much
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: March 02 2021 at 14:29
well, here is the first song I thought of on the topic.
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: March 02 2021 at 14:38
Meltdowner wrote:
Really nice suggestions so far
Snicolette wrote:
Question, does the work itself have to state it as a collaboration (such as John Doe with Jane Doe in the name of the "act"), or will, say, a solo or group recording with guest artists be admissible?
If it's a featured guest with enough presence in the song, you can suggest it.
I'll use my suggestion for example:
Video Removed for Space
The song starts at 0:30. I was on the third row, hearing this song live was reason enough to be there.
How sad to relive this, I miss concerts so much
I think I'm OK then....You can let me know if any selection doesn't work.
------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: March 02 2021 at 15:03
Off Course featuring Erik Truffaz
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: March 02 2021 at 15:12
Lovely idea, Samuel! Let me know if any of these do not suit.
From Bill Ward's first solo release on Chameleon Records in 1985, here is Jack Bruce on vocals and playing bass, on "Light Up The Candles" . Incidentally, filed right next to Was/Not Was in my LP collection. Bill used many special guests on this recording.
Next up is a collaboration between Atilio Adrian Metteucci (Athy the Electric Harpist) and cellist Jesse Ahmann, "Eterno Invierno del Alma."
And lastly, to lighten the mood, I bring back Seckou Keita on kora, this time with Welsh harpist, Catrin Finch, in a live performance of "Bamba."
------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: March 02 2021 at 16:15
OK, before others also start to cheer for more Nena, I will do something different. But with this first one I will stay in the 80s (got used to that decade now...). This is a collaboration between Golden Earring drummer Cesar Zuiderwijk and keyboardist Jasper van 't Hof (who we already met in the Africa poll with his band Pili Pili). In 1985 they issued the album Labyrinth... There are a couple of more pop-rock oriented songs on it, with the wonderful singer Julya Loko, and a couple of - more jazzy - instrumentals. Here one, with Bob Malach on saxophone...
Cesar Zuiderwijk & Jasper van't Hof - Polo:
Talking about drummers teaming up with keyboardists/pianists, here is Bill Bruford with Michiel Borstlap. They issued two albums and one live and I see these have only 14, 8 and 7 ratings respectively here on PA, so I'm not ashamed to put them up here, from their live album "in concert in Holland":
Bill Bruford & Michiel Borstlap - Two Left Shoes:
And, talking about drummers... oh no, no keyboardist this time. And not really jazzy as the others, we want rock! Let's get lost in this wonderful collaboration between Terry Bozzio, Tony Levin and Steve Stevens:
Bozzio, Levin, Stevens - Lost:
(I was so overwhelmed by Nena's voice that these are all instrumentals... )
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The razamataz is a pain in the bum
Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: March 02 2021 at 18:18
Let me know if this counts.
"Monsters of Folk" is a collaboration of Jim James (My Morning Jacket), Connor Oberst (Bright Eyes) and M. Ward (She & Him [which is actually another collaboration of M. Ward and actress Zooey Deschanel]). On this particular song, which was written by Jim James, features each one of them singing a verse. The video that accompanies it was a contest winner chosen by the band.
Monsters of Folk - "Dear God"
Next is Temple of the Dog which consisted of Chris Cornell (Soundgarden, Audioslave) and Eddie Vedder (Pearl Jam) and members from various grunge bands. As you can tell in the video, they were quite a bit younger back then. This one was quite popular in the 90's.
Temple of the Dog - "Hunger Strike"
And now for something completely different......
Most everyone knows the New Age artist Yanni, right?
What would happen if you took Beck Hansen (Beck), Thurston Moore (Sonic Youth) and members of the progressive jazz band Tortoise, put them in a room together, and had them cover Yanni's album "Live at the Acropolis"? Well I'll give you a taste with one of the tracks (and this one is the most sane of them all). Talk about deconstruction....
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: March 02 2021 at 18:28
I love Hunger Strike!
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Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: March 02 2021 at 18:30
John Cale and Terry Riley "Church of Anthrax"
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: March 02 2021 at 18:57
^ Ooh, that's a favourite of mine.
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: March 03 2021 at 15:36
I give you another one with Holger Czukay, this time Holger goes techno with Dr. Walker (Liquid Sky). I only picked this track because it's the shortest on the album, they are even more impressive with more time, but anyway, I love this album from beginning to end so this will do. "Backup Dream"
Now this one is more of a joke and chances are you won't get the German lyrics, but it's so much fun...
This is written by my favourite German hiphop(?) band Deichkind and called: "Selber machen lassen", which as a title is a stroke of genius, it puts three German words together in a superficially logical way, but the third one turns the meaning of the first two pretty much into the opposite. In English something like: "Let somebody do it yourself". And this is exactly what happens: They let others do the rapping and the video themselves for them, including wise words such as on "if you don't do it yourself you can't get it wrong, thought of that?" oder "upright is the new vertical", otherwise many things are listed that you can let others do yourself. I totally love this but in this forum it's certainly one of the darkest horses. Have fun.
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: March 03 2021 at 16:18
Thoughts on first listen, to end of Page One:
Samuel:FFS
“Collaborations Don’t Work”Right off,
the singer makes me think of Ray Davies, especially with the tongue-in-cheek
humour of the song.Very clever piece of
music, vocals switch from dance-hall to mock-operatic, starting very starkly
just voice and acoustic guitar (or is that a uke?), then full band and
orchestral production values as well.Ends
quietly with electric piano, the entire piece sort of is cleverly arranged as
seeming to be different things patched together, but of course it is entirely
deliberate and does actually work.Onde
Acaba o Oeste(feat. Viviane)“Anaquim – 10 Anos“Bass and electric guitar begin the piece with
slowly building drums.It settles in to
a conversational tone with the full band softly playing along, and builds a bit
into perhaps the chorus (we shall see).Presumably Viviane enters the stage and sings, continuing the
story.She plays a solo on a horn of
some sort (related to a bombarde, or indeed one, I can’t see it clearly
enough).I see by translation, that this
is the story of a rover of some sort, perhaps an old soldier or a person with
no country anymore.There is a sadness
to the piece, one feels this is a soul that will always be lost.
Hrychu: The
Recover Collective “Back at the Finja Shack”
Begins with synths and some percussive hits, a spoken into , becomes
very bouncy and upbeat still on synths.
This one, as the illustration suggests, sounds very much like a video
game soundtrack (or an musical montage of one), with the themes changing and
about midway, male vocals are heard.
Second third has electric guitar chiming in. Spooky laughter and spoken word ends, after
an almost false ending. What is your
contribution to the piece, Hrychu?
Logan:Haco & Sakamoto Hiromichi
“Zero Hills” I very much like the
beginning right away, with cello and violin duetting. Mournful female singer then joins the cello
played pizzicato and bowed saw (the theremin before the theremin was invented,
lol), I think? Very pretty and haunting
piece, the interplay between her clear vocals and the deep, deep sounds of the
plucked cello with the occasional resurgence of the higher pitched violin is
just lovely. A very quiet almost
childlike chorus way back in the mix is added near the end of the piece, with
the violin sliding into some dissonance as the piece quietly concludes, in a
fade-out. Pierre Henry &
Urban Sax “Gate of Paradise” A blatting
sax (or is that on keys?) sound begins the piece (quit harming those sheep!)
with blurt and blips of higher pitch at odd intervals. The blatting becomes more shrill and a
kazoo-ish ululation is thrown in for good measure. More layers and textures are gradually added. Very hypnotic piece of music. Toshiyuki Miyama and His New Herd “Masahiko
Sato - Ni” Sonic blast to begin with,
almost feedback-y noise with clickery stringy things and dissonance, cascading horns float in and around, with
creaks for punctuation….woingy keys join in and whirly horns are next. Flutes and/or keyboard flutiness flips into
the mix, while those horns and such just keep on continuing. Somehow I envision deep space with this kind
of thing, or perhaps microscopic shenanigans, which you could hear if you were
tiny enough. Drum solo! And back to the woingy-doingies. Drum solo!
Percussive piano begins and the band comes back in. Wow!
Was I driving? 😉
Suitkees:
Nena and Kim Wilde “Anyplace, Anywhere, Anytime” Back to the 80s and synth pop/rock….loved
your intro. The ultra-cool vocals of
Nena and Kim Wilde together….dark and light hair in the video reflect their
dark and light(er) vocal styles. They
mesh really well vocally, perfect 80’s production here. Great song for summer driving on the coast. Cesar Zuiderwijk & Jasper van’t Hof “Polo” Piano beginning with kick drum and then full
kit joining in, in a jazzy upbeat groove.
Synth keys add an almost orchestral swell underneath, with the bass and
drums steadily keep on underneath. A sax
comes along and joins in the fun.
Another great piece for driving along while enjoying a great view and
some music to go along with it. Bill
Bruford & Michiel Borstlap “Two Left Shoes” My favourite drummer here. 😊
Begins with syncopated percussion then keyboards and I think bass? The percussion becomes more complex and
builds tension. Keyboard wash, then a
repeating line on the keys. The keyboards and percussion continue on in this
vein and eventually it turns down to a quieter piano with the same main melodic
notes and some swirly whirlies on the piano, as those drum continue on in oh-so-interesting
ways. The piece ends after the swirly
parts. Bozzio, Levin & Stevens “Lost” A favourite
combination of mine, I have another recording of this grouping, “Black Light
Syndrome,” in my collection. This one
has some strong hitting chords with more great percussion behind it all. This one is very angular to my ear, if that
makes any sense. The washes return with
some repeating keys and then some just absolutely searing guitar. Love that guitar. The dynamics shift to a bit more quiet of a
setting and spiky sounding punctuation. Bass
is also very engaging, as should be….These are all masters at what they
do. Fantastic. And back to the main theme before the piece
ends abruptly. *applauds*
Lorenzo: Fabrizio De André “Khorakhané (A Forza di essere vento)” Beautiful, soaring keys with an electric
guitar begin the mournful piece.
Vocalist with much emotion tells the sad story. A bell tolls with swelling orchestral
touches. Most of the production is very
spare. A woman sings at the very end of
the piece, this one gave me chills.
Another from Fabrizio, arranged by PFM “Amico Fragile” Guitar and the now-familiar-to-me voice of
Frabrizio. He reminds me much of Leonard
Cohen, in his subject matter and delivery, although he has a more “musical”
voice. The electric guitar is very
passionate in this one. His sense of
angst and frustration with the empty-minded come through quite clearly in the
piece. Thirdly, “La Guerra de Piero”,
also Fabrizio, this time in collaboration with Modena City Ramblers and Piero
Pelù. Begins with oud or lute?Flutes join in with the impassioned vocals
that tell of the ravages of war.They
slip into an Irish slip jig, “The Butterfly.”Reminds me of what I think of as a “village song,” a term I use from
time to time (not sure how technical it is).I like the beat of this a lot and the instrumentation as well as the
tale.
Lewian: Jah Wobble, Holger Czukay, Jaki Liebezeit
& More “It Was A Camel” Braking sort
of sound made on cymbals, I think, bass comes bubbling in and muted speaking
comes along. Jumpy sort of guitars and
horns with scratching (whatever gait IS that camel using?) and percussive piano
begins layering in. The camel’s life
just gets more complicated as wah-wah-y horns begin infiltrating and it all
drops out for the piano to flourish for a moment. Back to the main story with whistles at
intervals and some almost-Island-ish or African guitar wangling in. The piece comes to a fade as it closes
out. Somehow it made me envision a sort
of cartoon camel who was visiting different places, as you watched from his
perspective.
Cristi:
Coverdale/Page “Whisper a Prayer For The Dying” Begins with repeating electric guitar lick
and David Coverdale’s classic rock-type voice.
The music becomes more intense and Coverdale goes into the outer limits
of his range. Orchestral hits punctuate
and the repeating guitar riff returns and becomes a fiery solo by Page. The orchestral bit reminds me a bit of
“Kashmir,” a brief homage, perhaps. This
is obviously first class music of it’s genre.
I prefer the lower register of Coverdale, which he utilizes quite a bit
in this one. Off Course ft. Erik Truffaz “Tales of the Lighthouse” Now for something completely different. Soft jazz feel to this, goes perfectly with
the windsurfing cover. Electric piano,
congas perhaps as percussion and muted horn join together for a perfectly
relaxing time. Later, a return to the
horn soloing again. Pretty guitar solo
about midway through. Makes me want to
sit in the sun and enjoy an adult beverage while the band plays on.
Mike:Monsters of Folk “Dear God” Light, almost poppy music with some nice harp
glisses at the start 😊 Belies the sound at the
beginning of a pop sort of song, as the song asks some serious questions. I like the combination of a really modern
production feel here, the chorus is sung in a very soulful way. The guitar lead is tastefully done, as it
comes in near the conclusion. This one
might come back to haunt me, I think.
Temple of the Dog “Hunger Strike”
I remember this one, so can’t vote for it, but it’s a great song. Thank you for reminding me of it. Beck,
Thurston Moore, Tortoise “One Man’s Dream”
Piano at the beginning as guitars are tortured in various ways against
that as a backdrop. There are some
orchestral bits on synth? Or is it just
feedback? Can’t really tell. When there are not the odd hesitations, I
almost start to like what they’re doing, but it feels too disjointed to me (although
I understand it’s supposed to) to get a grip on what they’re doing. There is a spoken part through a lot of
strange filters. I’ll leave this one to
the professionals.
Easy Money:John Cale &
Terry Riley “Church of Anthrax” Love
love love the name! Organ and bass and some electronic keys and
percussion set the scene. Very back of
front production, I enjoy the various layers as they enter the room and sit
down in the pews, if you will. This is
very spacey in a good way. It is fairly
avant feeling, yet with a purpose, which the Yanni cover by Beck et al seemed
to be trying too hard to me to achieve. Violin
comes along and joins the worshippers in the church, then saxophone, I think,
perhaps tenor? Or that could be done
with keys, I don’t know. But I very much
enjoy the groove. Are they accepting new
members at the church?
------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp
Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: March 03 2021 at 18:56
Snicolette wrote:
Mike:Monsters of Folk “Dear God” Light, almost poppy music with some nice harp
glisses at the start 😊 Belies the sound at the
beginning of a pop sort of song, as the song asks some serious questions. I like the combination of a really modern
production feel here, the chorus is sung in a very soulful way. The guitar lead is tastefully done, as it
comes in near the conclusion. This one
might come back to haunt me, I think.
Temple of the Dog “Hunger Strike”
I remember this one, so can’t vote for it, but it’s a great song. Thank you for reminding me of it. Beck,
Thurston Moore, Tortoise “One Man’s Dream”
Piano at the beginning as guitars are tortured in various ways against
that as a backdrop. There are some
orchestral bits on synth? Or is it just
feedback? Can’t really tell. When there are not the odd hesitations, I
almost start to like what they’re doing, but it feels too disjointed to me (although
I understand it’s supposed to) to get a grip on what they’re doing. There is a spoken part through a lot of
strange filters. I’ll leave this one to
the professionals.
Thanks as always for the great comments Nickie. As far as my 3rd entry, Beck actually did a series of 7 or 8 albums which he called The Record Club albums and on each one he had various guests. The Yanni album was kind of done as a joke mostly as a way to take something so simple and turn it into another thing altogether. The track I picked is actually the most accessible one, if you can believe that, and also the most recognizable one if you have heard that album. The other tracks are so far in left field that they are almost unrecognizable for any Yanni fan. Beck's Record Club project wasn't always this off the wall however, but it was usually quite experimental. Not many people hear this side of Beck, but before he was signed to any record label, he was very off-the-wall, and this project was done when he was between contracts. Yes he can be kooky, but he does it so brilliantly. I'm sure I won't be posting this one for nomination, but I just had to put it on here to see what people would think.
Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: March 03 2021 at 19:02
I wanted to post one more (as my third entry was a bit off the wall). I posted an entry on one of our other polls by Pascal Comelade who plays music on toy instruments. This collaboration thread is the perfect place to post another one, a cover, with Robert Wyatt singing lead.
Pascal Comelade and Robert Wyatt - "September Song"
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: March 03 2021 at 19:06
Glad you didn't take umbrage, Mike, it seems you got what I was saying, not sure that I understood what they were trying to do, so hard for me to actually judge it, per se. Also, I don't know any Yanni material, so I don't know how it veered from the original, although I have heard what he does on commercials for his music from long ago....obviously, this is very different from the types of compositions he would create. I may actually enjoy some of Beck's other Record Club endeavours, truly, being here and hearing some of what the more avant fans put forward has opened my ears more to the genre than before, with learned exposure to it. Will be curious to see what they have to say about this one.
------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: March 04 2021 at 04:27
I'll mini theme with collaborating trios. (EDIT: Also an inadvertent theme of album covers with a face staring at you. I just noticed that.)
Jonas Hellborg, Buckethead, Michael Shrieve - "Kidogo"
Ginger Baker Trio (Ginger Baker, Bill Frisell, Charlie Haden) - "East Timor"
Attention Deficit (Michael Manring, Tim "Herb" Alexander, Alex Skolnick) - "The Risk of Failure"
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: March 04 2021 at 05:06
Bruce Soord With Jonas Renkse - Pleasure
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: March 04 2021 at 16:43
@Nickie:
Lorenzo: Fabrizio De André “Khorakhané (A Forza di essere vento)” Beautiful, soaring keys with an electric
guitar begin the mournful piece.
Vocalist with much emotion tells the sad story. A bell tolls with swelling orchestral
touches. Most of the production is very
spare. A woman sings at the very end of
the piece, this one gave me chills.
Another from Fabrizio, arranged by PFM “Amico Fragile” Guitar and the now-familiar-to-me voice of
Frabrizio. He reminds me much of Leonard
Cohen, in his subject matter and delivery, although he has a more “musical”
voice. The electric guitar is very
passionate in this one. His sense of
angst and frustration with the empty-minded come through quite clearly in the
piece. Thirdly, “La Guerra de Piero”,
also Fabrizio, this time in collaboration with Modena City Ramblers and Piero
Pelù. Begins with oud or lute?Flutes join in with the impassioned vocals
that tell of the ravages of war.They
slip into an Irish slip jig, “The Butterfly.”Reminds me of what I think of as a “village song,” a term I use from
time to time (not sure how technical it is).I like the beat of this a lot and the instrumentation as well as the
tale.
Thanks for your precious mini-review.
You are right about Khorakhané: the production sounds spare, but now I show you how many persons play in that song.
There is a great effort of instrumentalists but the result is sober.
The woman who gave you chills, Dori Ghezzi, was the wife of Fabrizio De André.
In this video his part is sung by Luvi De André, the daughter of Dori and Fabrizio. And the violinist (and arranger of the orchestra) is Cristiano De André, the son of Dori and Fabrizio.
------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion.
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: March 04 2021 at 19:16
jamesbaldwin wrote:
Thanks for your precious mini-review.
You are right about Khorakhané: the production sounds spare, but now I show you how many persons play in that song.
There is a great effort of instrumentalists but the result is sober.
The woman who gave you chills, Dori Ghezzi, was the wife of Fabrizio De André.
In this video his part is sung by Luvi De André, the daughter of Dori and Fabrizio. And the violinist (and arranger of the orchestra) is Cristiano De André, the son of Dori and Fabrizio.
Video & Text removed for space
Even more moving with watching this, Lorenzo, thank you. And as you said, so many instruments, though they are so thoughtfully placed, it seems spare. A gorgeous stage as well, loved the Tarot card images, giving a sense of history to me. Chills again.
------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: March 04 2021 at 19:21
First thoughts on Page Two (so far, there may be more added) and on other's additional posts:
Lewian:Holger Czukay & Dr. Walker “Backup Dream”Heart-beaty boomp boomps and some far back
vocals, like a far away radio, a more pronounced beat begins with clattery tambourine-y
and percussion.Backwards sounding
orchestra sounds continue with the layers that are already here.Some short wave radio tuning wavers in and
out, goes far out, then shimmery sounds and sonic spookiness starts up.The piece begins to get much more ominous
here, with sounds of almost giant wasps or bees, a buzzing sort of noise.Almost a tease of it easing up with the doomy
sounds, but then they come back. Repeated organ-like key sounds jump in and possibly
television voices, or perhaps radio programs (a cop show of some sort, then unrelated
music) not quite tuned in.Piece goes into outer space to a quick
ending.Deichkind “Selber Machen Lassen”Hip hop probably describes it the best.Can’t really tell what they’re saying, but
since you explained, I do like the absurdity angle…I hope the bunny will be
OK.
Mike:Pascal
Comelad & Robert Wyatt “September Song”I like the toy piano clinkies and the sort of dance-hall vocals.And LOVE the art with the mice.Some lazy accordion accompanies the
also-slightly desultory vocals, sounds like they’re on the beach or a patio,
soaking up some sun and lolling.A
trumpet joins in for a solo near the end.Reminds me of The Kinks, which I said elsewhere in this poll.
Cristi:Bruce Soord & Jonas Renkse “Pleasure” Restrained production here to start, with
drums and chorded guitar. Keys make some
mucky sounds underneath as the vocalist begins.
This is a pretty dark piece, I like the vocalist’s tone and the effected
chorus-y echoes of his voice as well. Keyboards
underscore his voice, then a washy guitar lead after. It’s a piece that has a sort of traditional rock
structure, yet the music is not traditional. Some strings near the end (maybe on keys)
finish out the tune. My favourite of yours here.
George: The Faces Staring Trio of Album
Covers. Jonas Hellborg, Buckethead &
Michael Shrieve “Kidogo” This has an
almost jazzy feel to me, at least at first.
Very jittery guitars and keys with almost-ghostly vocals, back in the
mix. I really like the part(s) when they’re
not singing and the bass, drums and guitars are just sort of jamming
along. The percussion is very sonically
restrained, though very intense. They drop down about halfway in to very quiet guitar
and some wonderful chorus-y sounds, like they’re coming from an underground
labyrinth. Very pretty punctuation on
guitar drops in for a moment and then right back into the main tempo and sound
of the whole band. The vocal chorus comes back right before the end. This one
could really grow on me. Ginger Baker Trio “East Timor” Bringing Ginger to the table again. 😊 Drums
to the fore (as should be, with it being Ginger’s band). A spoken brief history of the situation in
East Timor that this song is about. Some
electric guitar shimmers in and out, the music becoming more intense underneath
the voice, then the guitar joins in with the drums and bass in earnest, in a
rocky/bluesy jam. This would undoubtedly be quite fun to watch, live. Attention Deficit “The Risk of Failure” Distorted guitars and drums start this one
out, it abruptly moves into a different pace and feel than the short intro
part. However, there is still an
underpinning of the intro way under as the bass becomes more prominent with the
guitar continuing on it’s merry staccato way.
There is an addition of keys about a third in (not sure if real keys or
a guitar effect). The sound all drops
out except drums and guitar, then they’re joined by bass as they slow the piece
down for a bit and jam along in a different way, with the bass much more busy.
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: March 06 2021 at 17:29
Good stuff here (and yes, even though Nicky outdoes herself once more describing the tracks thoroughly they are still worth a listen ).
For sure this poll wins the prize for the best poll title song!
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: March 06 2021 at 17:33
Lewian wrote:
Good stuff here (and yes, even though Nicky outdoes herself once more describing the tracks thoroughly they are still worth a listen ).
For sure this poll wins the prize for the best poll title song!
Agreed with that, great poll title song.
And, I know, I just can't think of any other way to describe that kind of music, Lewian. I'm glad you don't mind my flailing about to find the right descriptors.
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Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: March 07 2021 at 04:11
"Collaborations don't work" they said... They don't know what they're talking about! First round of listening...
Meltdowner: Wonderful poll title song. I don't think I ever heard anything by this collaboration between Franz Ferdinand and Sparks - this one is very epic, and ironic! Anaquim with Viviane bring a great song, rather classical in a way, but with a definite narrative quality (although I don't understand the lyrics) and their two voices complement each other very well.
Hrychu: Nice to put some of your own work up...(now we want the names!). A three-part track that starts with a very 80s synth-dominated computer game sound, a second part with some singing (in Japanese?) and a third full on band bombasm. Some nice riffs and melodies that may need a video accompaniement or may be too busy for that?
Logan: A gentle string opening of the first track by Haco and Sakamoto Hiromichi, which then gets joined by a theremin before evolving into something very orchestral and then ebbing away again in the delicacy of the beginning. Very nice track by to me completely unknown artists... Pierre Henry and Urban Sax may not present my preferred work of Pierre Henry, but it always remains intriguing and fascinating how the sound and atmosphere develops in this very Steve-Reich like piece. Never heard of Toshiyuki Miyama nor His New Herd and it is with a big bang they enter us in a frightening scene, with dissonant strings and brass augmented by the electronics. A modern orchestral and very cinematographic composition with some deconstructed touches of rock and jazz. This is contemporary music I like very much!
jamesbaldwin: Nice to present more by Fabrizio De André - I definitely have to explore more of his music... The first track with Ivano Fossati displays his beautiful deep voice, the poetry of the lyrics and the subtle but rich music: the delicate guitar backed by an orchestra... The ending with Dori Ghezzi singing makes it a deeply moving song... Amico Fragile brings a more typical singer-songwriter track, but with PFM's arrangements bringing in some more rock balladry... A bit more conventional to my ears - maybe a bit too perfect? With Modena City Ramblers and Piero Pelù we have a kind of troubadour, storytelling song brought with a very Mediterranean quality with touches of (folk-)rock. Quite nice too, but I prefer the first song of the three.
Lewian: What can we expect from Jah Wobble, The Edge and Holger Czukay? Well, this: a camel! Very tight jazzy music with some licks and scratches and breathes sprinkled around. Very catchy and a fun listen in the sense that it is very playful and very musical at the same time.
Cristi: What can we expect from Coverdale & Page? Well, Deep White Zep, man! We're rollicking between the delicate acoustic guitar and the hard rocking thunder passages. Maybe not a masterpiece but they really team up well, these two! Going Off course with Erik Truffaz brings us in jazz territory: percussion, piano, electric guitar exchange with the beautiful trumpet playing by Truffaz. Nice track, and very different from the first one...
Snicolette: What can we expect from Bill Ward with Jack Bruce: Well, it's already Sunday so Sabbath is over... Sunday Cream, then! Wonderful perfect song, well written well performed - powerful delicacy! We then enter dthe eternal winter with harp and cello with Atilio Adrian Metteuccian Jesse Ahmann. Yes, the harp is bringing an ice cold breeze to us and we can hear the icicles fall from the rooftops every now and then, but fortunately we can warm us up near the warmth of the cello fire. Very nice interplay of these two instruments. Warmer harp sounds in the next one: Seckou Keita with Catrin Finch. This is a bit too much harp for me (you already know that), I miss the cello! But it is actually nice to hear and interesting to watch them play...
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Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: March 07 2021 at 04:21
I guess I'll miss this round. Sorry. See you on the next.
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: March 07 2021 at 05:20
Lewian wrote:
For sure this poll wins the prize for the best poll title song!
I agree with that. Brilliant choice. There is no way I would attempt to attach a theme song to any of my future polls. Bar is set too high.
Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: March 07 2021 at 08:22
I'm still on the first page, I hope I'll have time to listen to everything. I'm really liking your suggestions.
What is the schedule for the poll? Should everyone nominate their song until Wednesday?
Snicolette wrote:
She plays a solo on a horn of
some sort (related to a bombarde, or indeed one, I can’t see it clearly
enough).I see by translation, that this
is the story of a rover of some sort, perhaps an old soldier or a person with
no country anymore.There is a sadness
to the piece, one feels this is a soul that will always be lost.
Thanks for the always insightful comments, Nickie She plays kazoo, to replace the trumpet on the studio version. Yes, it's basically the story of two wanderers: he is tormented by his past while she is afraid of what the future might bring.
suitkees wrote:
Meltdowner: Wonderful poll title song. I
don't think I ever heard anything by this collaboration between Franz
Ferdinand and Sparks - this one is very epic, and ironic! Anaquim
with Viviane bring a great song, rather classical in a way, but with a
definite narrative quality (although I don't understand the lyrics) and
their two voices complement each other very well.
The whole album is great but this track is clearly the highlight. It worked great for both: Sparks reached a younger audience (like myself) and Franz Ferdinand were going through the motions on their previous album.
mathman0806 wrote:
Lewian wrote:
For sure this poll wins the prize for the best poll title song!
I
agree with that. Brilliant choice. There is no way I would attempt to
attach a theme song to any of my future polls. Bar is set too
high.
I guess I won't nominate this song, to lower the bar. Bring on the theme songs!
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: March 07 2021 at 08:29
suitkees wrote:
Snicolette: What can we expect from Bill Ward with Jack Bruce: Well, it's already Sunday so Sabbath is over... Sunday Cream, then! Wonderful perfect song, well written well performed - powerful delicacy! We then enter dthe eternal winter with harp and cello with Atilio Adrian Metteuccian Jesse Ahmann. Yes, the harp is bringing an ice cold breeze to us and we can hear the icicles fall from the rooftops every now and then, but fortunately we can warm us up near the warmth of the cello fire. Very nice interplay of these two instruments. Warmer harp sounds in the next one: Seckou Keita with Catrin Finch. This is a bit too much harp for me (you already know that), I miss the cello! But it is actually nice to hear and interesting to watch them play...
I almost put out a sorry, more harp, note to you in my post, suitkees. But see, you actually did seem to enjoy a bit the Athy (Atilio) piece. And I do love to watch Keita and Finch on their live collaborations, they just have so much fun.
I had wanted to bring Bill here for a long time, that recording went virtually unnoticed and there is some wonderful music on it. Jack is also on another of the tunes on it, "Tall Stories," and Jack's son, Malcolm, is on several of the pieces, as well as contributing as a writer. There are a couple of guest vocals by Ozzy as well (and others, Bill also takes on lead vocals) and I am actually the first voice you hear on the record, the dispatcher at the start of "(Mobile) Shooting Gallery." Bill asked me to write the script and slip back into an old job role to have a realistic 911 call, as the person in the song is overdosing and is saved from death, to straighten his life out, later, in the record.
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Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: March 07 2021 at 08:51
For my third suggestion, since Anders didn't participate, I though I'd bring something from Denmark. This is from a collaboration between two of my favourite modern day guitarists, a lovely minimalist album for sunny mornings.
Jonas Munk & Nicklas Sørensen - Patterns
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: March 07 2021 at 11:21
Hmm.... not much into collaborations bu this track always grabbed me.
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Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: March 07 2021 at 11:53
Snicolette wrote:
suitkees wrote:
Snicolette: What can we expect from Bill Ward with Jack Bruce: Well, it's already Sunday so Sabbath is over... Sunday Cream, then! Wonderful perfect song, well written well performed - powerful delicacy! We then enter dthe eternal winter with harp and cello with Atilio Adrian Metteuccian Jesse Ahmann. Yes, the harp is bringing an ice cold breeze to us and we can hear the icicles fall from the rooftops every now and then, but fortunately we can warm us up near the warmth of the cello fire. Very nice interplay of these two instruments. Warmer harp sounds in the next one: Seckou Keita with Catrin Finch. This is a bit too much harp for me (you already know that), I miss the cello! But it is actually nice to hear and interesting to watch them play...
I almost put out a sorry, more harp, note to you in my post, suitkees. But see, you actually did seem to enjoy a bit the Athy (Atilio) piece. And I do love to watch Keita and Finch on their live collaborations, they just have so much fun.
I had wanted to bring Bill here for a long time, that recording went virtually unnoticed and there is some wonderful music on it. Jack is also on another of the tunes on it, "Tall Stories," and Jack's son, Malcolm, is on several of the pieces, as well as contributing as a writer. There are a couple of guest vocals by Ozzy as well (and others, Bill also takes on lead vocals) and I am actually the first voice you hear on the record, the dispatcher at the start of "(Mobile) Shooting Gallery." Bill asked me to write the script and slip back into an old job role to have a realistic 911 call, as the person in the song is overdosing and is saved from death, to straighten his life out, later, in the record.
No need for warnings. The harp may not be my preferred instrument, but there's still great music being made with it! And you're making this Bill Ward solo album even more intriguing - I have to listen to it!
Glad to read you appreciated my selections, which had a kind of drummer theme (Zuiderwijk, Bruford, Bozzio...), and it's nice to hear you have that first BLS album, Black Light Syndrome. A fantastic album too, though I listen more often to the subsequent Situation Dangerous...
Some 20 years ago, when I was still living in the Netherlands, one of our major concert venues proposed a "drummer package": three world wide renowned drummers/drum acts going solo. Well, Cesar Zuiderwijk was for us Dutchies a world wide legend. A second ticket was another Dutch act: sl*g.rij Van Kampen (litterally "Van Kampen's Butchery"), a great percussion/drum ensemble, worth checking out if one likes this. And the third ticket was Terry Bozzio. That was just WOW! An amazingly impressive drum kit on stage and he, completely alone with his drum kit, delivering a mesmerizing solo concert. One of the most impressive proofs of musicianship I have ever witnessed!
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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: March 07 2021 at 12:03
suitkees wrote:
No need for warnings. The harp may not be my preferred instrument, but there's still great music being made with it! And you're making this Bill Ward solo album even more intriguing - I have to listen to it!
Glad to read you appreciated my selections, which had a kind of drummer theme (Zuiderwijk, Bruford, Bozzio...), and it's nice to hear you have that first BLS album, Black Light Syndrome. A fantastic album too, though I listen more often to the subsequent Situation Dangerous...
Some 20 years ago, when I was still living in the Netherlands, one of our major concert venues proposed a "drummer package": three world wide renowned drummers/drum acts going solo. Well, Cesar Zuiderwijk was for us Dutchies a world wide legend. A second ticket was another Dutch act: sl*g.rij Van Kampen (litterally "Van Kampen's Butchery"), a great percussion/drum ensemble, worth checking out if one likes this. And the third ticket was Terry Bozzio. That was just WOW! An amazingly impressive drum kit on stage and he, completely alone with his drum kit, delivering a mesmerizing solo concert. One of the most impressive proofs of musicianship I have ever witnessed!
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Yeah, I really enjoyed that selection of yours! Now I'll have to get the other recording, since I now know there was another and I liked what I heard of it.
Bozzio definitely has an insane kit....the prog drummers are so fun to watch, truly (and many of these drift into jazz).
Bill is also fun to watch. Offstage, he is so polite and soft-spoken, you'd never think it's the same person once he's behind that kit, though, he truly becomes another person, and it's very powerful.
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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: March 07 2021 at 13:26
And a couple more first thoughts, with Samuel's addition and dr Wu23's offering.
Samuel: Jonas Munk & Nicklas Sørensen
“Patterns” A bright and snappy keyboard
repeating a pattern is the foundation for this slowly becoming more layered
piece. Very subtly, the sounds increase,
making it more complex than it would seem if one were not carefully listening. Definitely there is a feeling of light to it,
about halfway in, some swooping electric guitar comes along, weaving in with
the already textured layers. Eventually, the piece fades just a tad before a
fairly abrupt ending.
dr wu23: BB King & U2 “When Love Comes To Town”An inspired collaboration of two superstars
in their respective fields.Fun to hear
and looks like they had a blast doing this.Great blues lead, as expected, by BB.We actually had all the buses on this tour and a great show it was to
see, live.Thank you for reminding me of
it!
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: March 08 2021 at 11:06
I bought this when it came out and re-listened recently.....forgot how good it was.
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: March 08 2021 at 11:15
I don't know how I forgot this....simply exquisite.....last one...but what a gem.
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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: March 08 2021 at 11:31
My Nomination is:
Khorakhané (collaboration between De Andre & Fossati for the lyrics, performance by De André featuring Dori Ghezzi)
If you want to see the live performance:
Thanks to Snicolette and Suitkees.
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Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: March 09 2021 at 11:05
I forgot to say that you have the next two days to nominate your song
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: March 09 2021 at 11:17
^ I was wondering about that, I'll make up my mind tomorrow, it's between Off Course & Truffaz and Soord/Renkse.
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: March 09 2021 at 11:51
I really love all three of my selections for different reasons, but I had wanted to share Bill for a long time. So I'll select Bill and Jack this time (Light Up The Candles).
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: March 09 2021 at 14:57
Cristi wrote:
^ I was wondering about that, I'll make up my mind tomorrow, it's between Off Course & Truffaz and Soord/Renkse.
No time to write about everything, but the Soord/Renkse is pretty cool. The other one isn't bad either, but second place among yours.
Posted By: Tancos
Date Posted: March 09 2021 at 15:33
Here's Philip Pickett with Richard Thompson and other Fairport people. Pickett plays all manner of woodwinds and has been active in both the early music communities and Ashley Hutchings' various Albion Bands. Richard Thompson you may have heard of.
I post this tune with reservations — Pickett is a fine musician, but he's also a creep who is deservedly in prison (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Pickett#Sexual_abuse_conviction). However, the other musicians involved are not in prison and are worth hearing.
The above is my nomination unless I change my mind. If I do, it will be Mike Heron with "Tommy and the Bijoux." After I first heard this, I looked for other recordings by the band, without success. Eventually, I realized I already had several in my collection.
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: March 09 2021 at 16:44
First thoughts on the additional two from dr Wu23 and the emergence of Tancos:
dr Wu23: Robert Plant and Alison Krauss “Please Read the Letter” I have this in my collection, they were a very
inspired pairing. I like very much the
quiet production and wistful feel, it reminds me in sentiment of JA’s “Comin’
Back To Me” Alison’s fiddle is beautiful,
of course. And their voices together,
sublime. Roy Harper, Kate Bush & David
Gilmour “Once” begins with a very slow
build and a solemn vocal. Restrained and moving electric lead about
halfway in. Kate joins in with Roy after
the lead, very subtlely, bolstering his vocal. She has a moment near the end with a faery-like
wispy vocal in the clouds, the piece ends with a fiery lead and the word, “once,”
one more time. A song of the ephemerality
of us all.
Tancos: (BS [Before Script, opposite of post script,
lol] Saw your “likes” on the non-prog
bands thread, love a lot of those myself, I’ve brought Kaleidoscope into these
polls before and also pleased to see another Firesign Theater fan here….They’re
in everybody’s eggs): Philip Pickett
& Richard Thompson & Fairport Folks
“Lo Ballo Dell-intorcia” I have
not heard this and I am a big fan of Richard Thompson, so am quite looking
forward to it. Here we go…Big drums
start the piece out, this is very Fairport in sound, as expected, love the
guitar (of course, it’s RT!) and the horn-type instruments (shawms?) Very Renaissance-y (as in the time period,
not the band) recorder, I think, then wonky as all heck lead from RT again. They have a wonderful call-and-answer interplay
between the recorder and guitar (with percussing galloping along underneath) and come to a crashing end. Mike Heron “Warm Heart Pastry” This came out when Mike Heron wanted to
explore his electric propensities more than Robin Williamson did, as they
parted ways from the Incredible String Band.
I used to own this LP, it was sold at one point, when I had to in a very
penurious time. This is very raw
psychedelic in sound, a bit garage-y, also with wonky guitars and slidy group
vocals about ¾ in. It was fun to hear it
again, I have a rule of if I have heard it, I strike it from my potentials
list, but thank you for bringing it back to my attention.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: March 10 2021 at 01:07
Cristi wrote:
Bruce Soord With Jonas Renkse - Pleasure
my nomination
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: March 10 2021 at 05:18
My nomination is Jonas Hellborg, Buckethead, and Michael Shrieve - "Kidogo".
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: March 10 2021 at 05:45
mathman0806 wrote:
My nomination is Jonas Hellborg, Buckethead, and Michael Shrieve - "Kidogo".
Yeah! That's the right one!
Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: March 10 2021 at 10:22
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: March 10 2021 at 10:39
I'll go with Holger Czukay and Dr. Walker's Backup Dream. Just curious whether this techno half epic snatches a vote.
Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: March 10 2021 at 15:10
I just updated the poll but I still need to know the nominations from Greg, Kees and dr wu.
Let me know if I'm forgetting anything.
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: March 10 2021 at 15:38
My nomination is Bruford & Borstlap - Two Left Shoes
Hope I will find some time to comment on the rest of the suggestions, but this week is a bit full with other things, so I haven't found much time to listen... Anyway, there are many interesting pieces of music put up here.
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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: March 10 2021 at 15:44
Meltdowner wrote:
I just updated the poll but I still need to know the nominations from Greg, Kees and dr wu.
Let me know if I'm forgetting anything.
Tancos joined in also, just in time, I believe
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: March 10 2021 at 18:03
Meltdowner wrote:
I just updated the poll but I still need to know the nominations from Greg, Kees and dr wu.
Let me know if I'm forgetting anything.
Sorry if my nomination post was confusing; I did not change it from being Zero Hills.
Haco + Sakamoto Hiromichi - Zero Hills
Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: March 11 2021 at 13:12
Since dr wu didn't say anything, I just picked his first submission. All the contestants are in, you can start voting
Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: March 11 2021 at 14:03
Forgot one:
Easy Money wrote:
John Cale and Terry Riley "Church of Anthrax"
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: March 11 2021 at 14:11
Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: March 11 2021 at 14:29
Easy Money wrote:
Forgot one:
Sorry about that, I had the impression I was missing someone.
mathman0806 wrote:
Playlist. I will update if needed.
Cool, thanks George!
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: March 12 2021 at 17:54
OK, I am going to start the voting....As always, and I think it's actually increasing this factor, it was really hard to pin it down, everyone's contributions were great listening! Samuel, you do need a special award for the idea of using a song to illustrate the poll itself, sheer brilliance! Lorenzo, you get thanks for the original idea, as always, as does George for being so kind to wrap it all up in one place for us to listen to again.
Top 3 this time, for me:
1. Lorenzo:Fabrizio De André
“Khorakhané (A Forza di essere vento)” Beautiful,
soaring keys with an electric guitar begin the mournful piece. Vocalist with much emotion tells the sad
story. A bell tolls with swelling
orchestral touches. Most of the
production is very spare. A woman sings
at the very end of the piece, this one gave me chills....every single time I heard it, both versions.
2. Cristi: Bruce Soord & Jonas Renkse “Pleasure” Restrained production here to start, with
drums and chorded guitar. Keys make some
mucky sounds underneath as the vocalist begins.
This is a pretty dark piece, I like the vocalist’s tone and the effected
chorus-y echoes of his voice as well.
Keyboards underscore his voice, then a washy guitar lead after. It’s a piece that has a sort of traditional rock
structure, yet the music is not traditional. Some strings near the end (maybe on keys)
finish out the tune. My favourite of yours here. This one stayed with me, too, it really battled with Lorenzo fiercely for first place.
3. Logan: Haco
& Sakamoto Hiromichi “Zero Hills” I
very much like the beginning right away, with cello and violin duetting. Mournful female singer then joins the cello
played pizzicato and bowed saw (the theremin before the theremin was invented,
lol), I think? Very pretty and haunting
piece, the interplay between her clear vocals and the deep, deep sounds of the
plucked cello with the occasional resurgence of the higher pitched violin is
just lovely. A very quiet almost
childlike chorus way back in the mix is added near the end of the piece, with
the violin sliding into some dissonance as the piece quietly concludes, in a
fade-out. This one battled fiercely with Cristi for 2nd place.
Honourable Mentions:
Mike:Monsters of Folk “Dear God” Light, almost poppy music with some nice harp
glisses at the start 😊 Belies the sound at the beginning of a pop sort
of song, as the song asks some serious questions. I like the combination of a really modern
production feel here, the chorus is sung in a very soulful way. The guitar lead is tastefully done, as it
comes in near the conclusion. This one
might come back to haunt me, I think
Easy
Money:John Cale & Terry Riley “Church of Anthrax” Love love love the name! :D
Organ and bass and some electronic keys and percussion set the
scene. Very back of front production, I
enjoy the various layers as they enter the room and sit down in the pews, if you
will. This is very spacey in a good
way. It is fairly avant feeling, yet
with a purpose, which the Yanni cover by Beck et al seemed to be trying too
hard to me to achieve. Violin comes
along and joins the worshippers in the church, then saxophone, I think, perhaps
tenor? Or that could be done with keys,
I don’t know. But I very much enjoy the
groove. Are they accepting new members
at the church?
George:The Faces Staring Trio of Album
Covers. Jonas Hellborg, Buckethead &
Michael Shrieve “Kidogo” This has an
almost jazzy feel to me, at least at first.
Very jittery guitars and keys with almost-ghostly vocals, back in the
mix. I really like the part(s) when
they’re not singing and the bass, drums and guitars are just sort of jamming
along. The percussion is very sonically
restrained, though very intense. They drop down about halfway in to very quiet
guitar and some wonderful chorus-y sounds, like they’re coming from an
underground labyrinth. Very pretty
punctuation on guitar drops in for a moment and then right back into the main
tempo and sound of the whole band. The vocal chorus comes back right before the
end. This one could really grow on me
The ones that got away:
suitkees: Bozzio, Levin & Stevens “Lost” Loved your choice, also, but this one would have been fighting for my 3 honourable mention spots.
dr Wu23: Loved hearing that Plant/Krauss duet again, thank you!
Lewian: Holger Czukay & Dr. Walker - Backup DreamThis one almost made it to the honourable mentions, but the problem for me, was too many things to like with everyone's entries! I think I do have the most fun of all interpreting what you bring into some kind of verbiage, each time.
Hrychu: The
Recover Collective “Back at the Finja Shack” Wonderful for someone to put some of their own work in here! Plus, this was so different from everything else. Creative and fun.
Tancos: I think you must have entered too late to be counted, but wanted to thank you for the Philip Pickett & Richard Thompson &
Fairport Folks“Lo Ballo
Dell-intorcia," hadn't heard that one before and it was pretty striking.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: March 12 2021 at 22:30
my 3 choices
Philip Pickett with Richard Thompson - Forze D'hercole
Monsters of Folk - Dear God
Jonas Hellborg, Buckethead, Michael Shrieve - Kidogo
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: March 13 2021 at 04:33
Tough one. Very good mix of songs and instrumentals. I settled into my top two, but it was a battle for the third.
1. Mr. Phillip Pickett with Mr. Richard Thompson & the Fairport Rhythm Section "Forze D'hercole/Lo Ballo Dell'intorcia
2. John Cale & Terry Riley "Church of Anthrax"
3. Bill Ward with Jack Bruce "Light Up the Candles"
Honorable mentions:
Bruce Soord With Jonas Renkse "Pleasure"
Fabrizio De André "Khorakhané"
Holger Czukay & Dr. Walker "Backup Dream"
Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: March 13 2021 at 11:01
I don't know what to do. There are just too many great tracks and excellent surprises and I can't decide.
I'll come up with a top 3 sometime today or tomorrow.
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: March 13 2021 at 11:10
Thank you for the Bill vote, George! And I'm so with you, Mike...you see I mentioned every single person in my final considerations.
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: March 13 2021 at 12:18
-Bill Ward with Bruce- Light Up The Candles....didn't even know he did anything outside of Sabbath...and quite a departure in style. Interesting track and I'm a big fan of Mr Bruce
-Pickett with Thompson-Forze Dechole....I like old style folk tunes and the like...very relaxing for me
-Cale and Riley- Church of Anthrax....I heard this lp many many years ago...had forgotten about it...very atmospheric and mind altering.
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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: March 13 2021 at 12:26
@Nickie
As always, you hit the mark, Nickie.
I've known this song for over 20 years and even now when I listen to that final minute I get chills.
There are few musical moments that move me so much.
This is the reason why I've selected this piece.
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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: March 13 2021 at 12:42
dr wu23 wrote:
-Bill Ward with Bruce- Light Up The Candles....didn't even know he did anything outside of Sabbath...and quite a departure in style. Interesting track and I'm a big fan of Mr Bruce
-Pickett with Thompson-Forze Dechole....I like old style folk tunes and the like...very relaxing for me
-Cale and Riley- Church of Anthrax....I heard this lp many many years ago...had forgotten about it...very atmospheric and mind altering.
Glad you liked Bill, there's a lot of pretty good stuff on that record, in my opinion. It should have gotten a lot more attention than it did, I've always felt.
------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: March 13 2021 at 12:43
jamesbaldwin wrote:
@Nickie
As always, you hit the mark, Nickie.
I've known this song for over 20 years and even now when I listen to that final minute I get chills.
There are few musical moments that move me so much.
This is the reason why I've selected this piece.
It really is quite stunning, Lorenzo. I am very thankful for your posting it, I would likely never have heard it otherwise.
------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp
Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: March 13 2021 at 14:21
1. Jonas Hellborg, Buckethead, Michael Shrieve - "Kidogo" - This is excellent. This was so good that I've added it to my list of albums to find and buy.
2. Fabrizio De André - "Khorakhané" - Lorenzo, you keep reminding me why I love Italian music so much! Beautiful!
3. Bruce Soord With Jonas Renkse - "Pleasure" - This track is one of those dream team-ups. Bruce Soord from The Pineapple Thief and Jonas Renkse from Katatonia, what an excellent combination they make.
Like I said, this was a difficult one as I like all of the tracks.
Nickie, I had no idea Bill Ward sounded like this since all I've known him for was being Black Sabbath's drummer. This is something I'll be looking into for sure.
Bruford and Borstlap is another amazing collaboration, one that I'm more familiar with. I love the albums they did together. This is the kind of music I would compose back when I was majoring in composition, percussion and piano, before I really listened to these two artists. I did a four-section suite just using percussion and piano that earned me an A grade and high praise from the professor that I was really proud of and it followed the same idea that has intrigued me for a long time, paring the piano back into its own classification of instruments, percussion. I'm too familiar with their collaborations to vote for this one.
Czukay and Dr. Walker is another dream paring and was also a high candidate for this vote. Love the dive into Krautrock.
Posted By: Tancos
Date Posted: March 13 2021 at 15:05
1. Haco + Sakamoto Hiromichi - Zero Hills — The world needs more musical saws.
2. Jonas Hellborg, Buckethead, Michael Shrieve - Kidogo
3. Anaquim ft. Viviane - Onde Acaba o Oeste? — For the kazoo.
Runners-up: John Cale and Terry Riley, Bruford & Borstlap, The Recover Collective.
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: March 13 2021 at 15:28
TCat wrote:
Nickie, I had no idea Bill Ward sounded like this since all I've known him for was being Black Sabbath's drummer. This is something I'll be looking into for sure.
Most of the record is a bit louder, but there is another very quiet piece, "Pink Clouds, An Island," which is very spacy (as one might imagine from the title). I do like the heavier pieces as well, will be fun to hear what you think, if you do give more a listen. The original four Sabbath members truly did collaborate equally, even though Bill doesn't play other instruments than percussive ones, he did write the material here an on his later solo works, with space for improvisation by the various players. He would sing his ideas to them and then let them take off with it. He also once beatboxed what he heard as percussion on a demo for my friend, Jano Brindisi, who I shared with you folks a long while back, on a song called "All My Heroes." We were all surprised when he walked into the studio with no kit and then he explained what he was going to do, it of course worked perfectly as his drumming style would have overpowered the song.
------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: March 14 2021 at 03:34
I regret a bit that I didn't have time to follow up with a next batch of comments - there's some great music put up here that didn't make the nominations... So, when everybody is proposing the best of the best, we can only get the best of playlists! Once again a great listen and so difficult to single out just three, but here we go:
A whole bunch is sharing the 4th place; they'll have to figure out themselves if they indeed want to share it or bump their colleagues down to n° 5 or 6 or 7 or so...:
- Bill Ward & Jack Bruce - Light Up The Candles
- Bruce Soord & Jonas Renkse - Pleasure
- Holger Czukay & Dr. Walker - Backup Dream (the other Czukay piece with Jah Wobble & The Edge would have been on the podium!)
- Haco & Sakamoto Hiromichi - Zero Hills (and I very much like your other Japanese suggestion too!)
The three tracks that stood out for me are the following:
1. Fabrizio De André with Dori Ghezzi - Khorakhané; the sheer beauty of the music, the lyrics, the vocals and the arrangements of the song!
2. John Cale and Terry Riley - Church of Anthrax; never heard this collaboration before, and it is completely up to the reputation of both - have to find that album!
3. Jonas Hellborg, Buckethead, Michael Shrieve - Kidogo; some fantastic playing going on here!
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Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: March 14 2021 at 03:46
Oh, and why not a poll outro-song ?
John Cale, Kevin Ayers, Brian Eno, Nico - The End:
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Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: March 14 2021 at 05:30
@Nickie: I remember reading a review of the Bill Ward album back when it came out thinking that I should look into as it piqued my interest. But did not follow through. My initial listen of "Light Up the the Candles" didn't strike me, but inthe following listens in particular with headphones. Bruce's vocals is what really carried it for me.
@Mike: The entire Hellborg, Buckethead, Shrieve album is excellent. Like the track I posted, it's mostly acoustic. Buckethead was relatively unknown at the time. Hellborg was many interesting and different collaborations. Another I highly recommend is his album The Word. It's him on acoustic bass guitar, jazz drumming legend Tony Williams, and the Soldier String Quartet. My only complaint is it's only 36 minutes long.
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: March 14 2021 at 08:28
It is one of the more quiet pieces on the recording, I also toyed with the idea of doing the other Jack Bruce vocal on it, "Tall Stories," (which is not so quiet at all) because I am just a huge fan of his, but liked the surprise of this one being so not what you'd expect. Hope you enjoy the rest of it, if you have a chance to listen.
------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: March 14 2021 at 10:24
TCat wrote:
1. Jonas Hellborg, Buckethead, Michael Shrieve - "Kidogo" - This is excellent. This was so good that I've added it to my list of albums to find and buy.
2. Fabrizio De André - "Khorakhané" - Lorenzo, you keep reminding me why I love Italian music so much! Beautiful!
3. Bruce Soord With Jonas Renkse - "Pleasure" - This track is one of those dream team-ups. Bruce Soord from The Pineapple Thief and Jonas Renkse from Katatonia, what an excellent combination they make.
My first impulse would be to vote exactly that, but I'll listen a second time because there are one or two further candidates.
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: March 15 2021 at 19:57
My Podium
1) Zero Hills (for the atmosphere and for the lyrics)
2) Church of Anthrax (I know vey well this song, I'm a Cale's fan)
3) When Love Comes to Town (for the lyrics and for the vocals by BB King)
Honorable mentions:
4) Kidogo
5) Light Up the Candles
6) Forze D'hercole...
7) Dear God
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: March 16 2021 at 12:53
So sorry, I'm voting late.
John Cale and Terry Riley's Church of Anthrax is one I love but will be excluded because I already knew it so very well. I actually wanted to include that myself, but figured another might and knew all along that I wanted to highlight "Zero Hills", so I figured it would be unfair to mention it (and I would have expected that more would like the marvelous Church of Anthrax). Not surprised to see it with the most votes.
Of the others, Tancos' choice would have been a contender.
TCat voted just the way I was inclined to vote.
Jonas Hellborg, Buckethead, Michael Shrieve - Kidogo Fabrizio De André - "Khorakhané" Bruce Soord With Jonas Renkse - "Pleasure"
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: March 17 2021 at 18:15
Going through the tracks again, there are actually six that compete for my votes: Fabrizio de Andre, Soord/Renske, Hellborg/Buckethead/Shrieve, Anaquim feat. Viviane, Hako and Sakamoto Hiromichi, and John Cale & Terry Riley.
All of these are wonderful and it is as always hard to make a decision.
Ultimately today I'm attracted most to Hako and Sakamoto Hiromichi, and then, given that they only have one vote yet, to Anaquim. At first listening I liked the one of Hellborg/Buckethead/Shrieve most, but today I'm more in the mood for less free flowing more song-like stuff. For the same reason I won't vote for Cale/Riley although this as well might be a favourite on another day. The Fabrizio de Andre is a very beautiful piece of music, but doesn't attract me quite as much as the Hiromichis, and I'll give the third vote a bit to my own surprise to Bruce Soord with Jonas Renske. All the top 6 are excellent though.