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Topic: Let’s write a concept...!
Posted By: tortellino
Subject: Let’s write a concept...!
Date Posted: October 04 2005 at 16:44

Well, this is what happens when showering while listening to Porcupine Tree's "Voyage 34"...

I'm a newbie so maybe I should shut up, but I think that some of the topics here are not going anywhere, or let's say they could be far more interesting...

Said so, my mind gave birth to an idea that, if it is slightly less stupid than I think it actually is, could start some REALLY interesting discussion.

Step 1) let's discuss and decide which band is most likely to write, record and release a concept album in the no to distant future (let's say, before 2006 ends);

Step 2) all active and willing members of the forum can give their contribution to actually WRITE A CONCEPT ALBUM; I mean, we should write the whole story, everyone can give his input and then the ideas will be voted by the "writers" themselves;

Step 3) then, the masterminds of PA (or someone who has connections...) will have to use all of their charme to convince that prog band we choose to write songs based on our concept, record them and release an album with those songs on!

I know, this sounds crazy, but I think most of the guys here are not exactly ordinary...

 

 




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Posted By: horza
Date Posted: October 04 2005 at 16:47
welcome and don't shut up

we need fresh blood ha ha ha ha ha ha h ah ah ah ah ah ahahah ha aha ha

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Originally posted by darkshade:

Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot.


Posted By: tortellino
Date Posted: October 04 2005 at 16:51

You unlucky bloodsucker...!

I'm actually going through diet and a series of clinical test because my blood values are not so good... 



Posted By: horza
Date Posted: October 04 2005 at 16:55
the concept idea is a good idea and was tried in a similar vein to yours - sorry our recent threads not been inspiring enough lately

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Originally posted by darkshade:

Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot.


Posted By: tortellino
Date Posted: October 04 2005 at 17:16

Maybe that's my fault...

I don't know anybody here, I'm trying to figure out the politics of the forum, the relationships between members and the fairplay rules; it will take some time...

Apart from this, I'm not a 100% progger now as I was some year ago, I lost some contact with the scene but there are prog bands that I still love...

Did I tell you that I'm a Deadhead?



Posted By: thrang theng
Date Posted: October 04 2005 at 17:18

hi Tortellino, there was few days ago a very similar concept thread, which delivered good ideas, one was almost unanimous chosen as the best.
Make search, concept, the second forum after yours... enjoy the site

 



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Posted By: CrazyDiamond
Date Posted: October 04 2005 at 17:28

Hi tortelli',

I already started a topic like this  

Welcome, anyway.

 



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Posted By: tortellino
Date Posted: October 04 2005 at 17:34

Sorry,I didn't notice that older topic...

 



Posted By: horza
Date Posted: October 04 2005 at 17:41
Originally posted by tortellino tortellino wrote:

<FONT face="Courier New, Courier, mono" size=2>Sorry,I didn't notice that older topic...


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stay and have fun buddy we are all friends in here

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Originally posted by darkshade:

Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot.


Posted By: Progcupine
Date Posted: October 04 2005 at 17:43
A concept....what about a wall...no, ok, that´s already done....

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Posted By: tortellino
Date Posted: October 04 2005 at 17:48

Maybe a concept about what stands besides that wall... sidewalks?

SIDEWALK BEHIND YOU, or something like that...

Or, inside the wall... MOUSES OF THE HOLY...



Posted By: Pr@gmatic
Date Posted: October 04 2005 at 21:08
I have an idea. Let's write a concept album about the way life changes all the time. There are seasons, both good and bad.

The last song on the album can even be funky and have an original title, something like "Russian Urtahk"...

Oh wait... I think it has been done already...


Posted By: Under
Date Posted: October 05 2005 at 08:12

Your enthusiasm and ambition is inspiring, Tortelinni.

And perhaps you are right and a bunch of weirdo's at a progmusic site can create something valuable.

I would like to describe a complete first night stand. I would like to imagin the different tunes behind the different strategies, moods and actions.

 



Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: October 05 2005 at 08:36

How about a concept based around the return of the prog Messiah! Who delivers the world from Hip Hop, although it should all be very metaphorical and clever, of course, and never actually refer to Hip Hop or prog rock directly.



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Posted By: Progcupine
Date Posted: October 05 2005 at 10:03

PARARELL UNIVERSES....

IT´S THERE....

YOU CAN'T SEE...

YOU CAN'T TOUCH...

BUT YOU CAN UNDERSTAND...



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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: October 05 2005 at 10:09
check my thread; and let me know


Posted By: Andrea Cortese
Date Posted: October 05 2005 at 10:11

A concept album based on one single grain of sand lying on the beach, which has nothing different from the millions other grains...

 

 



Posted By: The Mister
Date Posted: October 05 2005 at 10:16
Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

How about a concept based around the return of the prog Messiah! Who delivers the world from Hip Hop, although it should all be very metaphorical and clever, of course, and never actually refer to Hip Hop or prog rock directly.
Didn't Da Beard already do this with "The Great Nothing"?


Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: October 05 2005 at 10:35

Originally posted by The Mister The Mister wrote:

Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

How about a concept based around the return of the prog Messiah! Who delivers the world from Hip Hop, although it should all be very metaphorical and clever, of course, and never actually refer to Hip Hop or prog rock directly.
Didn't Da Beard already do this with "The Great Nothing"?

Really? I haven't heard that album...

I was kinda joking!



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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!


Posted By: Paulieg
Date Posted: October 05 2005 at 11:01
How about a concept album that shows the state of affairs between Bush's world and the rest of the world.  I am in a very large disagreement with what Bush is doing.  Personally, I would have to do my homework in order to properly state my case against what he is doing, but I feel pretty strong about it.  I feel a concept album that delved deeply into the whole situation in the Middle East and Bush would shed a lot of light.  It would be quite a learning experience also. 


Posted By: Andrea Cortese
Date Posted: October 05 2005 at 11:36

Originally posted by Paulieg Paulieg wrote:

How about a concept album that shows the state of affairs between Bush's world and the rest of the world.  I am in a very large disagreement with what Bush is doing.  Personally, I would have to do my homework in order to properly state my case against what he is doing, but I feel pretty strong about it.  I feel a concept album that delved deeply into the whole situation in the Middle East and Bush would shed a lot of light.  It would be quite a learning experience also. 

I'll be the one here, but honestly I'm in a large agreement with what U.S.A. are doing, with the help of many countries as for example Italy, in the Middle East...it's only now that Palestine is starting his independency in Gaza!! and for the first time history gives the chance to the people of IraK of express their votes democratically!!  and the same thing in Afghanistan, after that taliban totalitarysm!!



Posted By: The Mister
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 14:15

Originally posted by Paulieg Paulieg wrote:

How about a concept album that shows the state of affairs between Bush's world and the rest of the world.  I am in a very large disagreement with what Bush is doing.  Personally, I would have to do my homework in order to properly state my case against what he is doing, but I feel pretty strong about it.  I feel a concept album that delved deeply into the whole situation in the Middle East and Bush would shed a lot of light.  It would be quite a learning experience also. 
Since there are obviously strong opinions on both sides, instead of a concept album that basically says war is wrong (basically every song that Roger Waters wrote after 1980), instead a group of musicians/composers could get together and write a double concept album.  The first disc would represent one side of the debate, and the other disc would represent the other.  Proceeds from the sales could be donated to some cause with which both sides can agree.



Posted By: Lorak
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 20:00
Ayreon is doing concept albums non-stop.
Anyway, for the sake of discussion, how about a journey to Iapetus, the mysterious moon of Saturn.  Travellers discover that Iapetus is not a moon at all but a derelict manufactured world from a long gone alien race, that seeded this Solar system long ago. 
Sort of Space Oddisey revisited. 

Aloha you ProgHeads!


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Nothing ventured, nothing gained, but better safe than sorry.
Look before you leap, but he who hesitates is lost


Posted By: mirco
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 20:16

What about a latin american dictator that believes to have God taken by his beard*, and it`s about to start a third world war giving the oil money to guerrillas all over the continent?

 

 

(This is a "venezuelanism", "tener a Dios agarrado por la chiva").



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Posted By: Andrea Cortese
Date Posted: October 19 2005 at 09:22
Originally posted by mirco mirco wrote:

What about a latin american dictator that believes to have God taken by his beard*, and it`s about to start a third world war giving the oil money to guerrillas all over the continent?

 

 

(This is a "venezuelanism", "tener a Dios agarrado por la chiva").

I know him, dear Mirco, I know him! (if I have understood your words...).



Posted By: mirco
Date Posted: October 19 2005 at 09:37
Originally posted by Andrea Cortese Andrea Cortese wrote:

Originally posted by mirco mirco wrote:

What about a latin american dictator that believes to have God taken by his beard*, and it`s about to start a third world war giving the oil money to guerrillas all over the continent?

 

 

(This is a "venezuelanism", "tener a Dios agarrado por la chiva").

I know him, dear Mirco, I know him! (if I have understood your words...).

Credo que tu abbia capito chi è il personaggio, questa settimana è stato a casa vostra...

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Posted By: Andrea Cortese
Date Posted: October 19 2005 at 09:44
Originally posted by mirco mirco wrote:

Originally posted by Andrea Cortese Andrea Cortese wrote:

Originally posted by mirco mirco wrote:

What about a latin american dictator that believes to have God taken by his beard*, and it`s about to start a third world war giving the oil money to guerrillas all over the continent?

 

 

(This is a "venezuelanism", "tener a Dios agarrado por la chiva").

I know him, dear Mirco, I know him! (if I have understood your words...).

Credo que tu abbia capito chi è il personaggio, questa settimana è stato a casa vostra...

17th October: president of Italian Republic Ciampi receives Ignacio Lula Da Silva (pres. Brazil);

19th October: president of Italian Republic Ciampi receives Tabaré Vazquez (pres. Uruguay);

 

Who is of these two?

P.S. great!!! parli italiano!!! (italian origins, probably!!!).

 



Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: October 19 2005 at 10:08

Originally posted by The Mister The Mister wrote:

Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

How about a concept based around the return of the prog Messiah! Who delivers the world from Hip Hop, although it should all be very metaphorical and clever, of course, and never actually refer to Hip Hop or prog rock directly.
Didn't Da Beard already do this with "The Great Nothing"?

Is that what The Great Nothing is about, i thought it was Neal Morse singing about his early solo carier befor founding the beard.

As for the concept album i agree to get Ayreon to do it as Lucassen seems to be able to get anyone and everyone to work with him and use Tolkiens story of Tuor and the fall of Gondolin as the concept. i know its a bit obvious but its a great story that deserves it

 



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Posted By: tortellino
Date Posted: October 19 2005 at 14:33

WOW! My first serious post has a life! Thanks to all of you...

Seriously, I've just seen the "Exorcism of Emily Rose" movie, and was very hit by the story... It include (obviously) a possessed girl, a priest (a true man of god), the Holy Church (never visible but always present, and powerful), a greedy male lawyer and a female lawyer whose soul and mind are torn apart by the fight between faith (or will to believe) and career opportunities...

This would be a good concept, I think...

 



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Posted By: Starette
Date Posted: October 19 2005 at 17:58

If I were to write a concept album- it would be about a girl who gets a breast-reduction but the operator is an evil man who replaces her breasts with pineapples. Yes- that's right my friends: PINEAPPLES. She then becomes the icon for a leading juice market in the Philippines but the only way she can keep up with this job is by having sex with the mysognist fruit-o-phile business man of this market. After having enough of this crap, she takes a giant cumber and decapitates both the juice-man and the evil doctor who deformed her. She then, in a fit of passion, tears out her 'implants' and runs bleeding and helpless out into the street where she almost dies but an archangel comes down to give her back the breasts that she had in the first place. They may be oversized but they're human flesh. She marries the archangel and lives happily ever after.

.....I can get VERY bored sometimes!!



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Posted By: Jeremy Spade
Date Posted: October 20 2005 at 00:38

Originally posted by <SPAN =bold>Starette Starette wrote:

If I were to write a concept album- it would be about a girl who gets a breast-reduction but the operator is an evil man who replaces her breasts with pineapples. Yes- that's right my friends: PINEAPPLES. She then becomes the icon for a leading juice market in the Philippines but the only way she can keep up with this job is by having sex with the mysognist fruit-o-phile business man of this market. After having enough of this crap, she takes a giant cumber and decapitates both the juice-man and the evil doctor who deformed her. She then, in a fit of passion, tears out her 'implants' and runs bleeding and helpless out into the street where she almost dies but an archangel comes down to give her back the breasts that she had in the first place. They may be oversized but they're human flesh. She marries the archangel and lives happily ever after.

This is sheer genius...


 



Posted By: fender101
Date Posted: October 20 2005 at 01:29
Originally posted by Jeremy Spade Jeremy Spade wrote:

Originally posted by <SPAN =bold>Starette Starette wrote:

If I were to write a concept album- it would be about a girl who gets a breast-reduction but the operator is an evil man who replaces her breasts with pineapples. Yes- that's right my friends: PINEAPPLES. She then becomes the icon for a leading juice market in the Philippines but the only way she can keep up with this job is by having sex with the mysognist fruit-o-phile business man of this market. After having enough of this crap, she takes a giant cumber and decapitates both the juice-man and the evil doctor who deformed her. She then, in a fit of passion, tears out her 'implants' and runs bleeding and helpless out into the street where she almost dies but an archangel comes down to give her back the breasts that she had in the first place. They may be oversized but they're human flesh. She marries the archangel and lives happily ever after.

This is sheer genius...


 

Agreed! Go write an album with this concept right now!

I was going to write something but after that I think Im too embarrassed



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Posted By: Starette
Date Posted: October 20 2005 at 18:12

 I'm flattered. Really. And it all comes with not being happy with one's breasts. (Ok ok- you're being sarcastic...right?)

PLEASE write your concept for us fender!!



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50 tonne angel falls to the earth...


Posted By: horza
Date Posted: October 20 2005 at 18:35
Originally posted by Starette Starette wrote:

If I were to write a concept album- it would be about a girl who gets a breast-reduction but the operator is an evil man who replaces her breasts with pineapples. Yes- that's right my friends: PINEAPPLES. She then becomes the icon for a leading juice market in the Philippines but the only way she can keep up with this job is by having sex with the mysognist fruit-o-phile business man of this market. After having enough of this crap, she takes a giant cumber and decapitates both the juice-man and the evil doctor who deformed her. She then, in a fit of passion, tears out her 'implants' and runs bleeding and helpless out into the street where she almost dies but an archangel comes down to give her back the breasts that she had in the first place. They may be oversized but they're human flesh. She marries the archangel and lives happily ever after.


.....I can get VERY bored sometimes!!





ehmmmm.....

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Originally posted by darkshade:

Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot.


Posted By: Starette
Date Posted: November 02 2005 at 18:36
Horza- where did you get your signature from?

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50 tonne angel falls to the earth...


Posted By: Syntharachnid
Date Posted: November 02 2005 at 20:29
A good way to write a prog concept is simply to write a surrealist nonsense story (ala Lamb) and put it to lyrics that make very little sense and make the story sound a lot deeper than it really is. 

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Posted By: fractal
Date Posted: November 02 2005 at 22:18
I don't think it is a good idea to explore real locations for this concept album if it will be based on current history events, because it will certainly get old fast. But we could use a ficticious place, time and symbols. Just like the song "The Trees" from Rush, for instance, where the message is quite clear.

With that said, I would like to see a concept album loosely based on the last chapter of the animation movie "Memories" (from the famous manga artist Katsuhiro Otomo), called "Cannon Fodder", a very strange story about war, belicism and paranoia, orwellian style.


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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: November 03 2005 at 04:48
I have kind of an idea for an album, but I have to say, it's all very hush-hush for the moment.  I can enlighten you all though with the track titles.  The project is called Herculean and the album title is "I Am Not Agatha Christie".

Herculean

I Am Not Agatha Christie

1. Geoffrey Jones
2. Death of a Salesman
3. Two Wrights Don't Make A Song
4. Trespassing
5. Equality
6. Dilly-Dallying All The Way Home
7. Defiance
8. One Wright Does Make A Wrong
9. Twisted Sister
10. Dentures and Dementia
11. Caught Short

Look for it in stores in about 200 years time.

Actually, I was thinking that this album would not necessarily be totally prog rock, but it would contain several genres, but with prog elements.  So it would have a cheerful beginning, or perhaps, tongue-in-cheek references and then would get darker (but would still contain amusing moments).  Influences would be Neil Young, VdGG, Moody Blues, Gov't Mule/Allman Brothers Band, Bob Dylan, Peter Hammill and lots of other stuff too.

Far fetched I know!

It's a pity I am not a great writer and I do not play any instruments.

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