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Topic: THE MARS VOLTA...
Posted By: Progcupine
Subject: THE MARS VOLTA...
Date Posted: October 04 2005 at 16:42

 I´ve just listened to a song and sounds good... are they good enough to buy the CD?, what other bands are similar to them?, what kind of music do they play?



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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: October 04 2005 at 16:45
  • yes
  • very few
  • difficult to describe

 they're really good ... read the reviews!



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Posted By: con safo
Date Posted: October 04 2005 at 16:46
Definitely worth buying if you like loud, complex psychedelic rock. I recommend their first album Deloused In The Comatorium if you're just getting into them, then move on to their less accesible (but ultimately brilliant) album Frances The mute

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Posted By: Progcupine
Date Posted: October 04 2005 at 16:50

which one of the two albums is better...?



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Posted By: con safo
Date Posted: October 04 2005 at 16:56
Originally posted by Progcupine Progcupine wrote:

which one of the two albums is better...?


Depends on who you ask. IMO frances the mute is overall a better album but theres too much ambient noise for my liking. Theyre both excellent albums though.


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Posted By: Ty1020
Date Posted: October 04 2005 at 16:57
My first exposure to the was Frances the Mute. I initially liked it, but my love for it grew and grew each time I listened to it.

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Posted By: horza
Date Posted: October 04 2005 at 17:00
just start running now and don't look back

de-loused in the comatorium is ok though

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Posted By: tortellino
Date Posted: October 04 2005 at 17:04

I wouldn't be in a rush to buy any Mars Volta album.

If Possible, listen to more than one song, because this is a very difficult group to approach, and even if it sounds cool at first, maybe you will regret spending your money on one of their cds...

I'm not saying they're bad, but that they are very strange sounding and complex, so listen carefully and decide if they satisfy your taste.

Maybe, you can do like I do: I seldom download an album that catch my curiosity, I listen to it several times and, if I like it, I buy it; if not, I trash and forget about it...



Posted By: Progcupine
Date Posted: October 04 2005 at 17:12

THANK YOU!!



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Posted By: RoyalJelly
Date Posted: October 04 2005 at 17:22
Buy "Deloused..." without hesitation. It's some of the freshest
rock you'll hear since about a decade, the guitarist is very good,
shades of Howe and Fripp there, and they're very tight.
Reminds one of the shock at first hearing "Fragile" when it
came out, and Yes still had an edge.


Posted By: Morandar
Date Posted: October 04 2005 at 17:58
Great, great band, maybe the best new one I hear from a long time.
Both albums (and singles :D) are extremely worth buying, prog rock with the strenght of punk\hardcore. Great musicianship. Extremely good use of effects and synths.


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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: October 04 2005 at 18:23

There's only two studio albums right now, so get them both. Start with Delosed, I think it's the best as an introduction. Then Frances, it's a bit harder to get into and comprehend as a whole, IMO.



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Posted By: FragileDT
Date Posted: October 04 2005 at 20:32
I really have to check out TMV. I keep saying that but am always putting it
off.

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Posted By: Pr@gmatic
Date Posted: October 04 2005 at 20:37
The Mars Volta is a band you either love to death or hate with a passion. I belong to the first group.


Posted By: Arnold Layne
Date Posted: October 04 2005 at 21:06
there was a system of a down concert in the city that i live in recently and the mars volta was opening for them. i didnt go but everyone that i know that went said they suck but in harsher words. i have heard one of there cds on http://danceage.com - danceage.com and i thought it was pretty good

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: October 04 2005 at 21:56
i like them but don't know how to classify them


Posted By: gdub411
Date Posted: October 04 2005 at 23:06

Originally posted by Arnold Layne Arnold Layne wrote:

there was a system of a down concert in the city that i live in recently and the mars volta was opening for them. i didnt go but everyone that i know that went said they suck but in harsher words. i have heard one of there cds on http://danceage.com - danceage.com and i thought it was pretty good

I'm sure a bunch of knuckleheaded nu-metalers would think The Mars Volta suck. But remember who is saying it and ask yourself if you actually value their opinions. I think not.

Get both cds. For one thing they go for $9.99 at the record stores. Pretty cheap purchase. Even if it is not quite your thing, it is cool to have them as an addition to your prog collection.



Posted By: Toob-Wurm
Date Posted: October 04 2005 at 23:21
Originally posted by gdub411 gdub411 wrote:

Originally posted by Arnold Layne Arnold Layne wrote:

there was a system of a down concert in the city that i live in recently and the mars volta was opening for them. i didnt go but everyone that i know that went said they suck but in harsher words. i have heard one of there cds on http://danceage.com - danceage.com and i thought it was pretty good

I'm sure a bunch of knuckleheaded nu-metalers would think The Mars Volta suck. But remember who is saying it and ask yourself if you actually value their opinions. I think not.

Get both cds. For one thing they go for $9.99 at the record stores. Pretty cheap purchase. Even if it is not quite your thing, it is cool to have them as an addition to your prog collection.

Actually, a lot of my Nu-Metal friends love this band (I played Deloused in the Comatorium for them).



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Posted By: Trotsky
Date Posted: October 04 2005 at 23:22

As a hard-core, semi-old (32) classic progger who has found most modern groups to be disappointing, I'm pleased to affirm that I lurve TMV ...

Start with Deloused first ... still the one I prefer ..

 



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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: October 05 2005 at 02:57
I've only got Frances the Mute, which I bought on the strength of some very positive reviews. I can't say I listen to it very often, as I have to be in the mood for that - it's not an album you can put on as background music when you do something else! Anyway, they're an extremely tight band and their music is quite unique. I can understand people hating them, but I'll admit to definitely liking them ('love' would be too strong a word for the time being). I'd recommend them, although with some caution.


Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: October 05 2005 at 03:11

GET FRANCES THE MUTE...the first mars volta album i got...and now mars volta is my favorite band



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Posted By: sentuhlangit
Date Posted: October 05 2005 at 03:42
heylooo... i'm the new one, but damn good mars volta is really good.
i think they always give a different atmosfer in their firs album to the another.
at the drive in is good, sparta is too pop, but mars volta is the masterpiece.



Posted By: NutterAlert
Date Posted: October 05 2005 at 03:48

Discovered DeLoused recently, after downloading MP3 from here then buying CD, and I love it.  

 



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Posted By: Phil
Date Posted: October 05 2005 at 03:59
They're well worth checking out, I got into them following reviews and comments I read on this site. Both "De-Loused" and "Frances" are good, you may find DeLoused a little easier to get into, although Frances has more obvious "prog" connotations (like a 30+ minute track "Cassandra Gemini").

Very difficult to classify them!


Posted By: sentuhlangit
Date Posted: October 05 2005 at 04:11
heiy.. is there a band that have a power in their song like mars volta. i dont really know about proggressive band, but hey... is there anyone that want to help me give another band taht have similar power like mars voleta.


Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: October 05 2005 at 04:16

Originally posted by sentuhlangit sentuhlangit wrote:

heiy.. is there a band that have a power in their song like mars volta. i dont really know about proggressive band, but hey... is there anyone that want to help me give another band taht have similar power like mars voleta.

the closest musically to the mars volta is perhaps anekdoten...but i dont really know of any bands that is so energetic...except for iron maiden that is



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Posted By: Nazgul
Date Posted: October 05 2005 at 05:22
Yes they're good. Very energetic and fresh.


Posted By: Sino
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 05:54
I've forgot about these guys for quite a while.

Back when they first started i got their Tremulant EP, played it every day and went crasy over what i was listening to. As expected, noone but me seemed to like it (quoting: "don't you ever get bored of all that freaked-out music and all that prog you're listening to?").

And then, i moved on, been in the army for my national service, finished that, came back, started working... And on one of my vinyl orders from America, the land of Cheap Vinyls, i noticed on the "New Stuff" section of the e-shop i was ordering from: THE MARS VOLTA. Didn't really think about it, i just ordered all three new items i've never seen/heard before of.

So, i've started melting Tremulant again and biting my nails waiting for the vinyls [De-loused/Frances/Frances EP] to arrive. I don't want to download any mp3's or anything but can't help reading the reviews...

-Sino.


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Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 05:56

Originally posted by Sino Sino wrote:

I've forgot about these guys for quite a while.

Back when they first started i got their Tremulant EP, played it every day and went crasy over what i was listening to. As expected, noone but me seemed to like it (quoting: "don't you ever get bored of all that freaked-out music and all that prog you're listening to?").

And then, i moved on, been in the army for my national service, finished that, came back, started working... And on one of my vinyl orders from America, the land of Cheap Vinyls, i noticed on the "New Stuff" section of the e-shop i was ordering from: THE MARS VOLTA. Didn't really think about it, i just ordered all three new items i've never seen/heard before of.

So, i've started melting Tremulant again and biting my nails waiting for the vinyls [De-loused/Frances/Frances EP] to arrive. I don't want to download any mp3's or anything but can't help reading the reviews...

-Sino.

so you have not heard FRANCES THE MUTE yet but you loved the tremulant EP...wow man i envy you...hearing FRANCES THE MUTE for the first time is a trip like no other



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Posted By: Pr@gmatic
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 22:55
Originally posted by maidenrulez maidenrulez wrote:

Originally posted by Sino Sino wrote:

I've forgot about these guys for quite a while.

Back when they first started i got their Tremulant EP, played it every day and went crasy over what i was listening to. As expected, noone but me seemed to like it (quoting: "don't you ever get bored of all that freaked-out music and all that prog you're listening to?").

And then, i moved on, been in the army for my national service, finished that, came back, started working... And on one of my vinyl orders from America, the land of Cheap Vinyls, i noticed on the "New Stuff" section of the e-shop i was ordering from: THE MARS VOLTA. Didn't really think about it, i just ordered all three new items i've never seen/heard before of.

So, i've started melting Tremulant again and biting my nails waiting for the vinyls [De-loused/Frances/Frances EP] to arrive. I don't want to download any mp3's or anything but can't help reading the reviews...

-Sino.

so you have not heard FRANCES THE MUTE yet but you loved the tremulant EP...wow man i envy you...hearing FRANCES THE MUTE for the first time is a trip like no other



Oh yeah, especially the first time you listen to that crazy drone after "bring me the plaaaague..."


Posted By: fender101
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 23:18
I am also considering buying an album only because they are coming to Australia soon and I wouldnt mind hearing them to decide whether to go or not. Im not a fan of metal at all is that what these guys are?

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Posted By: fractal
Date Posted: October 06 2005 at 23:42
I liked ../Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=7305" title=" The Mars Volta Frances The Mute album reviews, Mp3 and track listing - Frances The Mute a lot. But I disliked ../Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=9160" title=" The Mars Volta L'Via L'Viaquez album reviews, Mp3 and track listing - L'Via L'Viaquez .

As someone pointed out, THE MARS VOLTA requires some getting in the mood to listen to it, since it is so crazy and energetic.


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Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: October 07 2005 at 03:09

Originally posted by fender101 fender101 wrote:

I am also considering buying an album only because they are coming to Australia soon and I wouldnt mind hearing them to decide whether to go or not. Im not a fan of metal at all is that what these guys are?

Metal? Hardly...



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Posted By: alan_pfeifer
Date Posted: October 07 2005 at 09:32
TMV have a bit of metal in them, but not what most people consdider metal to be.  The heaviness comes more from how intense the music is.  This is reflected on Frances more than De-Loused.  I'd say get De-Loused first, then pick up Tremulant and Frances if you like them.  They can be abit like musical crack if you don't know what to expect .


Posted By: youllneverbe
Date Posted: October 07 2005 at 10:17

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

difficult to describe

I'll give it a go though....

At The Drive-In + (heavier) Led Zeppelin + 72-74 King Crimson + 'Caravanseria' Santana + classic Can + Rick Rubin's enormous studio + Omar Rodriguez-Lopez's arsenal of sound effects = The Mars Volta.

I saw em live on the De-Loused tour. The live version of 'Cicatriz ESP' must have been about 40mins long. Great show, but maybe that particular track was a little too long.



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Posted By: Lateralus_66
Date Posted: October 07 2005 at 13:24
Originally posted by youllneverbe youllneverbe wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

difficult to describe

I'll give it a go though....

At The Drive-In + (heavier) Led Zeppelin + 72-74 King Crimson + 'Caravanseria' Santana + classic Can + Rick Rubin's enormous studio + Omar Rodriguez-Lopez's arsenal of sound effects = The Mars Volta.

I saw em live on the De-Loused tour. The live version of 'Cicatriz ESP' must have been about 40mins long. Great show, but maybe that particular track was a little too long.



Excellent definition: A pastiche… and if I might add:

Anyone remember Pink Floyd’s Animals (1977) based on a George Orwell's book? - On this fable, TMV are The Dogs, The Media are Pigs, and The Customers are The Sheep. One inspiring day TMV crafted beautiful dung, and The Media said:

-“Oh… what a nice smell..!  It’s really good stuff, let’s sell it”
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The first Sheep “catching the spirit” bought the first manure and told to the second Sheep:

- “Oh, I’ve got the most beautiful stuff that I’ve ever seen”

And told to the third Sheep...


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This is an “Animal Farm”, if we don’t choose what we eat… But, who knows..? Paradoxically, Pink Floyd is one of rock’s successful acts, having sold one zillion albums worldwide… But, this is another tale…

Anyway, I can’t stop you buying the music that you like…(The Media’s rulez ) Enjoy them...


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Posted By: DantesRing
Date Posted: October 07 2005 at 13:41
I saw Mars Volta last night at the System Of A Down show in Seattle. I was pretty excited to see them having been a fan since 'De-Loused'. I hate to report that it was a confusing, rambling jumble.
They must have had ten members of the band on stage (how do they make money with that size band?) playing everything from shakers to flute to samplers. I admired they're desire to keep it as close to the full sound of the albums, but it came off as a wall of noise.
In truth they were really more like a very heavy Grateful Dead than anything else. They played 50 min. and really only did 4 songs. I can dig that. But when the songs are as shapeless and repetitive as what they were playing, it becomes mind numbing. I was really hoping they would end.
That being said, there were some good moments. Every once in a while a familiar melody would break through, and the singers voice was in excellent condition. Sounded much better and more controlled(?) live than on the studio releases.
Buy the albums. Buyer beware of the live show.


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Posted By: BleedingGum
Date Posted: October 07 2005 at 14:06
I like Deloused ... than Frances..

Well, yes it's little bit difficult to describe their music though. But if you like badly-destorted sounds [from vocal to guitar..] and if you like moody-kind of music ..in term of changing mood all the time, then you will like it.

The best thing is that the druming, I found is very great and powerful.


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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: October 07 2005 at 14:13

I DISCOVE THE MARS VOLTA THROGH THIS WEB SITE AND I SIMPLY LOVE THEM FOR THE SEVERAL REASONS:

THEY SOUNDS REMIND ME OF SOME OF MY FAVORITE BANDS!!!!!

PINK FLOYD (ANIMALS- ATOM HEART MOTHER)

KING CRIMSON (LARK -RED AND THE IMPRO SIDE))

SANTANA ( ONENESS, BORBOLETTA,WELCOME CARAVANSERAI)

UNIVERS ZERO ( EARLY ALBUMS)

FRANK ZAPPA (A LOT 70'S ZAPPA)

AND THEIR OWN STUFF ( VERY INDUSTRIAL, SOME SONGS ARE VERY EXPERIMENTAL)

THE MARS VOLTA IS A BAND THAT WHILE YOU LISTEN TO THIEIR MUSIC YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT. THEY ARE MAKING VERY INTESESTING AND EVERY TIME YOU HEAR IT, IT IS LIKE BRAND NEW MUSIC TO YOUR EARS. ONE OF THE BAND THESE DAYS. THEIR LYRIC SWILL DRIVE YOU CRAZY!!!!!!!

THEY THIS GREAT NOISE MUSIC THAT IS HIGHLY RECOMMENDED.

FRANCE THE MUTE 5/5

DE LOUSE 5/5

TREMULANT (EP) 5/5 (HIGHLY RECOMMENDED)



Posted By: sentuhlangit
Date Posted: October 09 2005 at 02:50
yes... yes... i agree with that, mars volta is great band.
it always give me somekind surprises while i'm listening to it.

whoa... is it true that The live version of 'Cicatriz ESP' must have been about 40mins long?
wow....
but how about the pattern?
doenst it a way too long?


Posted By: the dragon
Date Posted: October 09 2005 at 03:08

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Posted By: Dalezilla
Date Posted: October 09 2005 at 08:53
Originally posted by BleedingGum BleedingGum wrote:

I like <span style="font-style: italic;">Deloused ...</span> than <span style="font-style: italic;">Frances.. </span>

Well, yes it's little bit difficult to describe their music though. But
if you like badly-destorted sounds [from vocal to guitar..] and if you
like moody-kind of music ..in term of changing mood all the time, then
you will like it.

The best thing is that the druming, I found is very great and powerful.



The drumming is my favorite part too


Posted By: Uther Pendragon
Date Posted: October 09 2005 at 10:06
I really love The Mars Volta it really is a throw-back to all of the 70s prog but also with a nod to the future and they are progressive in the true sense of the word. Frances The Mute is my favourite of the two albums but both are definitely worth getting. Finally new life in the prog-scene!

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Posted By: BePinkTheater
Date Posted: October 09 2005 at 10:11

ehhh...they have their moments..

The widow is an amazing song, But overall i really don't think that they are that great



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Posted By: alan_pfeifer
Date Posted: October 09 2005 at 10:35

Yes, Cicatriz is a very long song when played live....but I've yeat to hear it live and not lose interest at some point. They always keep me guessing, and that's what I love about the band.

and BTW, they have a live album coming out November 8th. 



Posted By: henri_ds
Date Posted: October 09 2005 at 10:41
Well, what can I add ? one of the top 5 prog bands of the 2000's (and beyond ?).
Just listen to the 30 minutes of Cassandra Geminni (Frances The Mute album).

De-loused is an amazing debut album, more accessible than FTM, but FTM is simply bigger.


--EDIT : thanks for the info about the live album



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