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Topic: 1984 was a good year
Posted By: Cristi
Subject: 1984 was a good year
Date Posted: February 10 2021 at 08:53
20 albums from 1984
It was definitely a good year, I left out quite a few other albums, may create a second one if you enjoy this poll. 

For the fun of it, choose, vote and leave a comment. Tongue



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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: February 10 2021 at 09:05
Hmm, it was a good year, and although I know That Perfect Strangers, Powerslave, 1984, Defenders of the Faith and Fugazi are all superior albums musically, and these days I enjoy them a lot more than The Sentinel by Pallas, the Pallas album absolutely mesmerized me at the time, and I suspect it will need the votes, so that's where my vote is going

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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: February 10 2021 at 09:07
Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Hmm, it was a good year, and although I know That Perfect Strangers, Powerslave, 1984, Defenders of the Faith and Fugazi are all superior albums musically, and these days I enjoy them a lot more than The Sentinel by Pallas, the Pallas album absolutely mesmerized me at the time, and I suspect it will need the votes, so that's where my vote is going

Mr Garten is not going to be happy! LOL


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 10 2021 at 09:08
Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Hmm, it was a good year, and although I know That Perfect Strangers, Powerslave, 1984, Defenders of the Faith and Fugazi are all superior albums musically, and these days I enjoy them a lot more than The Sentinel by Pallas, the Pallas album absolutely mesmerized me at the time, and I suspect it will need the votes, so that's where my vote is going

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Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: February 10 2021 at 09:12
I only listened to https://open.Spotify.com/episode/62tEtKmdAxDVKCFryAFhec?si=ozysme0ESjyGQdov-GsmGw" rel="nofollow - The Album Years podcast for 1984 by Steven Wilson and Tim Bowness, so it’s still fresh in my mind. It had me listening to quite a few albums I hadn’t otherwise.

The podcast started with The Blue Nile - a band I’ve heard of, but not sure I’d ever heard. I listened, and really liked this album, and based on this, I don’t think I have ever heard any The Blue Nile before. But I will be listening to more. I’m thinking the only time I’ve heard Paul Buchanan sing before was for the marvellous BBC Bowie at the Proms performance. I can’t believe I didn’t make more of an effort to listen to The Blue Nile then, as his performances there impressed me greatly.

There’s actually a lot here for me to discover, as I was still too young to be exposed to much beyond the mainstream material played on the radio. So I’m listening to the David Sylvian album for the first time, too. Unlike The Blue Nile, it sounds completely of it’s time, and so a little dated. But still very enjoyable. Thomas Dolby is the real surprise for me here, though. I’m really digging the sounds of this album, which again is totally new to me. It’s my favourite of the albums mentioned, so far.

Then we get to the familiar, and brilliantly so. I love both Laurie Anderson’s and Scott Walker’s albums from 1984. I don’t need to listen to these again now, to know how much I enjoy them. But if you’ve not listened to either, I can heartily recommend both.

And so we come to Bowie, and the question “just how sh*t is this?” Well, to be fair, and even as a great Bowie fan, pretty damn sh*t. To be fair to Bowie, he wasn’t feeling into it, and admitted fairly quickly that the album was released to capitalise on the success of his previous album, in order to help out Iggy Pop. To that end, it’s a great album, because Pop likely wouldn’t have had any musical career beyond this point without Tonight, so much did it bolster his finances. But the original Pop/Bowie songs on Lust For Life are so superior to these insipid covers, the Tonight versions are barely listenable. The best thing to have come from Tonight, is the theme to Red Dwarf.

Next up is the supposed “no risk disc”, Tabula Rasa. The grandmother test apparently means this will pass, while In C will be thrown in the bin. Well, before even listening, I’m wondering about that, as I rather like In C - and one of my favourite albums last year was a double disc offering of In C from David Harrow (available https://rattle-records.bandcamp.com/album/in-c" rel="nofollow - here , and well worth a listen - particularly the second disc).

Ok, I’ll give this to them - this may well be a no risk disc. I went in almost hoping to not like it, just to prove SW wrong. But damnit, I do actually like this!

I love a lot of the 4AD artists, though I came to the label via Throwing Muses rather than any of the three bands here. (Not that TM had an album out in 1984.)  Out of Cocteau Twins, This Mortal Coil, and Dead Can Dance, I can probably do without TMC - who have never really worked for me. Both the Twins and Dead Can Dance albums from 1984 are great, though. So, on the off chance my opinion might be changed, I decided to try and listen to TMC. They still don’t work for me.

Do I dare give Marillion a go? Nothing I’ve ever heard from the band I’ve particularly enjoyed in the past. But I don’t think I’ve ever listened to Fugazi, so I may as well now. And, I was really quite enjoying the first song - at least, until the vocals came in. Something about Fish’s vocals don’t sit right for me. Which is weird, as I really like Peter Gabriel’s vocals, and there are definite similarities between the two. Ok, I’m actually getting into this now, including the vocals. They are definitely better further through the song than they are at the beginning. And musically, it’s like some hybrid of ‘80s pop and ‘80s metal.  I have been assailed by Assassing. Punch and Judy isn’t quite so assassing, however, although it’s still far more inspiring than Jigsaw (ugh!).

People talk about Peter Hammill having many voices, but Fish has him beat, and not in a good way. I love Peter Hammill’s many voices, but Fish just grates at times. I can barely listen to Emerald Lies for the awful (to me) vocal squawkings and screeches. The drums are horribly dated, too, which is a shame, as musically this song is vaguely interesting, even if I don’t like the vocals.

I’m moving on to something I know (or at least assume) I’ll like more. I’ve never heard any Cardiacs material from before “A Little Man”, so this album is new to me, too. Fabulous, though, as expected. Mental as anything, and marvellous because of that. Split Enz meets Gong (both bands I love, and cannot believe weren’t influences for Cardiacs, so strongly is their music evoked). You can totally hear how this band in turn influenced such diverse bands as Blur and Faith No More.

Given I know and love all the singles from Frankie Goes to Hollywood’s debut, it’s kind of a surprise I’ve never listened to the album. The title track was always my favourite of the four singles, but I was alone among my friends with this preference. It’s the first time I’ve listened to it in years, as it’s always the other thee singles that get played. I’m immediately reminded of how much I love this song. Holly Johnson’s vocals are great on this. The cover versions are all a bit meh, though. I can see why this album was seen as bit of a disappointment.

The Art of Noise is a no from me. I like a lot of things Trevor Horn has been involved with, but this is not one of them. Swans, on the other hand are an interesting proposition. I’ve never listened to this album, but had heard of it from its reputation as being the ugliest, most brutal of all their albums. I assumed it would be too much for me, but it’s nowhere near as ugly or brutal as I imagined it would be - proof that imagination provides horrors more terrifying than anything that can be presented to you, and why books are usually scarier than films. I actually really like this! 😱

Dali’s Car is another band I’ve heard of, but never listened to. This is going straight onto my “to purchase list”. Wow! This is phenomenal! Definitely the most impressive of all the new (to me) albums I’ve listened to off the back of this podcast.

My take on 1984, avoiding any albums that may have been mentioned by Steven and Tim:

Let’s start with what I was listening to in and around 1984, shall we? Five albums that, at the time would definitely have made my list, even if these days I might not agree so much.

Duran Duran - Arena
INXS - The Swing
Paul McCartney - Give My Regards to Broadstreet
U2 - The Unforgettable Fire
Wham! - Make It Big

I didn’t own all these albums in 1984, but I did by 1986, and they were all favourites - and obviously influenced by what I heard on tv and radio. These days I still own only two of these albums, now upgraded to cd (DD and U2), but I’m fairly certain I would still enjoy them all if I listened to them again today.

Next up, five albums that I came to reasonably soon afterwards (before the ‘90s certainly).

The Cult - Dreamtime
Iron Maiden - Powerslave
Psychedelic Furs - Mirror Moves
Queensryche - The Warning
Simple Minds - Sparkle in the Rain

These are all still in my collection, albeit upgraded from cassette to cd.

Finally, five albums from 1984 that I have come to in more recent years (relatively speaking).

Depeche Mode - Some Great Reward
Steve Hackett - Till We Have Faces
R.E.M. - Reckoning
Lou Reed - Live in Italy
Andy Summers & Robert Fripp - Bewitched

From Cristi’s list though, and I admit to procrastinating with all my above waffle, I still can’t decide. It’s between Iron Maiden, Queensryche and Depeche Mode, but I may have to roll a die to decide.

And the die says.....

Depeche Mode




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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: February 10 2021 at 09:15
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Hmm, it was a good year, and although I know That Perfect Strangers, Powerslave, 1984, Defenders of the Faith and Fugazi are all superior albums musically, and these days I enjoy them a lot more than The Sentinel by Pallas, the Pallas album absolutely mesmerized me at the time, and I suspect it will need the votes, so that's where my vote is going


Mr Garten is not going to be happy! LOL


I know, but thankfully he doesn't hang out round these parts much these days. As long as my PA Facebook buddies keep this under their hats, he won't get upset..

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Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: February 10 2021 at 09:22
Toughie.  Love Fugazi, RTL and, yes, 1984.  Gonna think and get back on this one.


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 10 2021 at 11:32
now it's 5 comments/posts and 1 vote, it's usually the other way around. LOL


Posted By: A Crimson Mellotron
Date Posted: February 10 2021 at 11:35
Yes, because 'Fugazi' was released that year, which is what I voted for!


Posted By: Cosmiclawnmower
Date Posted: February 10 2021 at 11:51
1984 was definately a year of 'new wave of British Progressive rock' for me.. i loved Fugazi, Silent dance and certainly echo exactly what Blacksword says about The Sentinal.. I suppose, strictly speaking "Tales from the Lush attic' was first released 1983 but had its main (first released as a private pressing) release in 1984.. Twelfth Night released Live and Let Live Jan 1984..
Eloy released Metromania in 1984 and played the Marquee in London in May that year!


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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 10 2021 at 11:56
Originally posted by Cosmiclawnmower Cosmiclawnmower wrote:

1984 was definately a year of 'new wave of British Progressive rock' for me.. i loved Fugazi, Silent dance and certainly echo exactly what Blacksword says about The Sentinal.. I suppose, strictly speaking "Tales from the Lush attic' was first released 1983 but had its main (first released as a private pressing) release in 1984.. Twelfth Night released Live and Let Live Jan 1984..
Eloy released Metromania in 1984 and played the Marquee in London in May that year!

Like I said, if this poll gets some votes and discussion, I will do a second poll. We'll see. Tongue


Posted By: Cosmiclawnmower
Date Posted: February 10 2021 at 12:01
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Cosmiclawnmower Cosmiclawnmower wrote:

1984 was definately a year of 'new wave of British Progressive rock' for me.. i loved Fugazi, Silent dance and certainly echo exactly what Blacksword says about The Sentinal.. I suppose, strictly speaking "Tales from the Lush attic' was first released 1983 but had its main (first released as a private pressing) release in 1984.. Twelfth Night released Live and Let Live Jan 1984..
Eloy released Metromania in 1984 and played the Marquee in London in May that year!

Like I said, if this poll gets some votes and discussion, I will do a second poll. We'll see. Tongue

That would be great! It doesnt take much to get me reminiscing about that timeWinkLOL


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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: February 10 2021 at 12:19
"Until they become conscious they will never rebel and until after they have rebelled they cannot become conscious” (1984). I was not very musically conscious in 1984 and had not yet rebelled against musical industry standards. 1984, and the 80s generally, is largely about Rock in Opposition type albums and has been for 15 years, but that doesn’t mean that I’m opposed to or rebelling against this list. While my own 1984 list would very different, and most of these albums I have not heard, I will not lament going for Ultravox.


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: February 10 2021 at 12:21
Deep Purple, mainly because most of the other albums in the poll are perfect strangers to me. Smile


Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: February 10 2021 at 12:41
You have definitely hit my sweet spot with all of the metal from my youth.  I decided to Ride the Lightning, as it was that album that bolted me to the headbanging club.  I could very easily have voted for Iron Maiden's Powerslave, which I absolutely love, and Dio's The Last in Line.  So many good times listening to those albums.  I went with British Steel in the 1980's poll, but could definitely have pulled the trigger on a vote for Defenders of the Faith.  

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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: February 10 2021 at 13:43
None from that list really!!!

Here is what 84 looks like for me

13Univers Zero
UZEDBel1984
12 Art ZoydLe Mariage du Ciel et l'Enfer Fra1984 
12 Jaivas, LosObras De Violeta Parra Chl1984 
12 Talking HeadsStop Making Sense USA1984 
11 CongresoPajaros De Arcila Chl1984 
10 Vaughan, Stevie Ray / Double TroubleCouldn't Stand the Weather USA1984 
10 Waters, RogerThe Pros and Cons of Hitch-Hiking Eng1984 
09 Bi Kyo Ran
Parallax Jpn1984 
09 Dream Syndicate, TheThe Medicine Show USA1984 





 
09 Fripp, Robert and Andy SummersBewitched Eng1984 
09 Gilmour, DavidAbout Face Eng1984 
09 Langlois, JérômeThèmes Can1984 






10
News From BabelSirens and Silences / Work Resumed on the Tower Eng1984 








09 SadeDiamond Life Eng1984 
09 SpaceboxKick Up Ger1984 
09 Spirit
The Thirteenth Dream (aka Spirit of '84) USA1984 
09 Talk TalkIt's My Life Eng1984 
09 U2Unforgettable Fire Ire1984 
09 Vai, SteveFlex-Able USA1984 
09 Violent FemmesHallowed Ground USA1984 






























09Hodgson, RogerIn The Eye Of The Storm



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prefer the sink to the gutter
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content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 10 2021 at 13:45
Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

None from that list really!!!

Here is what 84 looks like for me

13Univers Zero
UZEDBel1984
12 Art ZoydLe Mariage du Ciel et l'Enfer Fra1984 
12 Jaivas, LosObras De Violeta Parra Chl1984 
12 Talking HeadsStop Making Sense USA1984 
11 CongresoPajaros De Arcila Chl1984 
10 Vaughan, Stevie Ray / Double TroubleCouldn't Stand the Weather USA1984 
10 Waters, RogerThe Pros and Cons of Hitch-Hiking Eng1984 
09 Bi Kyo Ran
Parallax Jpn1984 
09 Dream Syndicate, TheThe Medicine Show USA1984 





 
09 Fripp, Robert and Andy SummersBewitched Eng1984 
09 Gilmour, DavidAbout Face Eng1984 
09 Langlois, JérômeThèmes Can1984 






10
News From BabelSirens and Silences / Work Resumed on the Tower Eng1984 








09 SadeDiamond Life Eng1984 
09 SpaceboxKick Up Ger1984 
09 Spirit
The Thirteenth Dream (aka Spirit of '84) USA1984 
09 Talk TalkIt's My Life Eng1984 
09 U2Unforgettable Fire Ire1984 
09 Vai, SteveFlex-Able USA1984 
09 Violent FemmesHallowed Ground USA1984 






























09Hodgson, RogerIn The Eye Of The Storm


you said none and yet I have Talk talk in my list. LOL
I know you are a very demanding listener but you're a tad bit dismissive here. Ouch


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 10 2021 at 13:46
I forgot about David Gilmour's About Face. Unhappy I love this album. 



Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: February 10 2021 at 13:58
Another bit of a wasteland year for me with only 15 albums total. I have the Deep Purple and Iron Maiden. Maiden get the vote here.

My personal top 3 are:-

Univers Zero - UZED
Mr. and Mrs. Smith and Mr. Drake - Mr. and Mrs. Smith and Mr. Drake
News From Babel - Sirens and Silences / Work Resumed on the Tower



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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: February 10 2021 at 14:08
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

you said none and yet I have Talk talk in my list. LOL
I know you are a very demanding listener but you're a tad bit dismissive here. Ouch

Just so you know, I didn't know half of these albums back then. I discovered most of the more difficult/demanding ones (like the RIO/Avant albums cited) some 10 years later.

But 84 (the year I graduated from Uni) is +/- the year I stopped listening to rock/pop and turned the radio off. In the last two years (81 onwards), I had discovered most of these JR/F bands, and would spend most of the rest of the decade lostening to that and 60's jazz (Coltrane, Davis, Brubeck , Mingus, etc...)




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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword


Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: February 10 2021 at 14:20
1984-1990 remain dark years for me. My favourite album from 1984 is most probably R.E.M. - Reckoning.


Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: February 10 2021 at 14:20
Since I listen to a lot of Black Metal nowadays... Don't Break the Oath!

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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: February 10 2021 at 14:38
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

I forgot about David Gilmour's About Face. Unhappy I love this album. 

I'd do an About Face and vote for David Gilmour instead of Deep Purple if he'd been included in the poll. Smile


Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: February 10 2021 at 15:06
I only own 3 lp's on that list ...chose Powerslave....

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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 10 2021 at 15:16
Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

I only own 3 lp's on that list ...chose Powerslave....

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Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: February 10 2021 at 16:05
Went with Marillion. Deep Purple and The Fixx would be my next choices.

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Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: February 10 2021 at 16:06
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

I forgot about David Gilmour's About Face. Unhappy I love this album. 


It's one of my favorites too. Great album.


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i'm shopping for a new oil-cured sinus bag
that's a happy bag of lettuce
this car smells like cartilage
nothing beats a good video about fractions


Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: February 11 2021 at 07:42
Going with RTL.


Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: February 11 2021 at 15:07
A good year indeed. My preferred ones of this list are Perfect Strangers, Fugazi, 1984 and The Sentinel. Very much hesitating between the excellent Marillion and the excellent Pallas... Will go with The Sentinel. Back in the 80s this was one of my preferred neo-prog albums, whereas Fugazi came after Script... and I always preferred Script over Fugazi... The Sentinel is in between these two.


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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: February 11 2021 at 15:16
Marillion

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Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: February 11 2021 at 17:31
I like that David Gilmour album a lot. Could have voted for it if it was there. I went with Metallica.


Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: February 12 2021 at 01:36
Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

A good year indeed. My preferred ones of this list are Perfect Strangers, Fugazi, 1984 and The Sentinel. Very much hesitating between the excellent Marillion and the excellent Pallas... Will go with The Sentinel. Back in the 80s this was one of my preferred neo-prog albums, whereas Fugazi came after Script... and I always preferred Script over Fugazi... The Sentinel is in between these two.


Exactly my position, re; Script, Fugazi & The Sentinel

I agree also about Perfect Strangers and 1984.

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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: February 12 2021 at 06:34
The fourth best Talk Talk album is good enough to win this one.
My machine lists killer albums such as Joe Jackson Body and Soul, David Sylvian Brilliant Trees, Thomas Dolby The Flat Earth, Comsat Angels Fiction and of course Three of a Perfect Pair in this year.


Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: February 12 2021 at 08:31
Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

Going with RTL.

LOL

You are probably not aware that "RTL" is actually the name for a German TV and radio channel that both broadcast cheap trash.


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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 12 2021 at 08:34
Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

Going with RTL.

LOL

You are probably not aware that "RTL" is actually the name for a German TV and radio channel that both broadcast cheap trash.

it's Ride The Lightning. Big smile


Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: February 12 2021 at 08:37
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

Going with RTL.

LOL

You are probably not aware that "RTL" is actually the name for a German TV and radio channel that both broadcast cheap trash.

it's Ride The Lightning. Big smile

I know, but I couldn't resist the remark.


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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 13 2021 at 07:30
ok, so what year do you want me to cover next? EmbarrassedTongue


Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: February 13 2021 at 07:42
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

ok, so what year do you want me to cover next? EmbarrassedTongue

Does it have to be just 80s?  If not, I'd say 1994. Wink


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 13 2021 at 07:43
Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

ok, so what year do you want me to cover next? EmbarrassedTongue

Does it have to be just 80s?  If not, I'd say 1994. Wink

ok Thumbs Up



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